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Eastlink:
Who is the head of the South-East Governors forum? A lot of political battles are rearing their head. A lot of talking point. And I think since 1979, this is the first time Igbo leaders are putting Igbo interest first.

From 1995 till date, it was usually a pattern to support the south. SW and SS have always benefitted from SE magnanimity. I think it's time the SE play their politics right and benefit too. The era of fighting battles for others to enjoy should be a thing of the past.

It's still Umahi.
History beckons on him.
We must get it right this time around.

I would be devastated if I wake up and learn they didn't choose neutrality in that meeting.

I will lose hope totally in all of them and give my support fully to IPOB.

That stupid era of magnanimity to ungrateful wicked folks is gone with the wind.
I tell you, if GEJ event of 2010 happened now, I would campaign in all online forums to sway Igbo opinion against offering him any support.

From now onwards, we only offer support to things concerning us and that we stand to benefit directly from.

Anything else, we play neutrality and weigh our options.

Were you In this forum in 2010?

Eastlink:
You should target this message to IPOB daft leaders and their zombie followers. Spoilers alert.

Nnaa! IPOB better mind themselves.

If Uzodimma regains Ndoni and Egbema to Imo and goes extra mile to have Oyigbo returned to Abia!
I will rank him higher than Zik!

And what is the deal with Mary Odili?
Shouldn't she be helping us regain Egbema and Ndoni from those thieves claiming to be our neighbors and brothers?
Why am I hearing stories of her siding our enemies?
What's her plan?

Eastlink:
You hit the nail. And why is this issue not discussed in Igbo groups? I thought Slayerforever opened a closed Facebook group to that effect. It's obvious both Uzodinma, Umahi & Obiano are following this neutrality case seriously. Obiano and Anambra recently benefitted from being added to oil producing states.

Umahi is focusing on Igbo interest as regards a lot of burning issue. Uzodinma is not joking with the boundary adjustment to retrieve both ONELGA and Oyigbo from Rivers state. And the Supreme Court judgement for boundary adjustment is coming up this month if I’m correct. I noticed that Imo state Governors from Udenwa to Uzodinma are following the template began from Mbakwe who started the battle to reclaim Igbo border communities handed to the SS.

Wike my smart Governor, seeing that Rivers might lose the decided to Imo decided to play smart with the VAT distraction. It's obvious Uzodinma is not taking non of that.

Good work on the part of Uzodimma finally.
Even a prodigal son is still a son and must have a value.

It's time we played the spoiler to so called Southerners and regained all they cunningly took from us when we went to fight the North.
If we get back Egbema and Ndoni to Imo . And Oyigbo back to Abia! Nnaa! Uzodimma would be forgiven of all his sins and should be immortalized in the annals of Igbo history.

Interesting times ahead.

Fingers crossed for SE governors meeting press release tomorrow.

BKayy:
You know that what triggered all these is the boundary adjustment issue that saw FG favouring Mr Supreme with the oil wells that are supposed to be in Imo in the first place.
Wike in a bid to get back at FG because the very existence of the confusion in Rivers is to stall Ndigbo came up with VAT as a means to water the loss.

Lagos wey be mumu come put mouth thinking that since Rivers which they calculated would be the only option to water their VAT by reopening Onne Port (rivers) is in the game forgetting that there is Warri port (Delta state). You now see why Okowa didn't waste time to sustain the heat?

In all this, if they win it will be a prryhic victory because
1. Lagos Port monopoly will be ended
2. Warri and Onne Port will be reactivated to Punish Lagos
3. Serious boundary adjustment will occur in Rivers state to punish Wike. This will favour Abia, Imo and Anambra.
4. To make the reactivation of the ports Viable, access road to favour the ports to the main destination of what used to come from Lagos port (SE) will be laid.

So you see. Its all win-win for us.
If the states lose.
FG will most importantly punish Lagos by reopening Onne and warri which will turn Wike, Okowa and Sanwo Olu from allies to competitors, then facilitate the Oil wells destined for Imo state to Imo State and more.
Though this one won't bring a big benefit for us but its something atleast.
Thats why we pray that Wike and Lagos win.

So after rereading this again.
It turns out that our best card here should be neutrality.

Atleast I got that one right, even without being able to connect the missing dots like you did.

Igbo masses need to know this, so that they should stop bashing our governors for refusing to pitch tent with the SS and SW.

I'm not a fan of SE governors, but for once, they got their act right.
I Know Umahi must have done the maths. The rest there are just empty heads.

BKayy:
You know that what triggered all these is the boundary adjustment issue that saw FG favouring Mr Supreme with the oil wells that are supposed to be in Imo in the first place.
Wike in a bid to get back at FG because the very existence of the confusion in Rivers is to stall Ndigbo came up with VAT as a means to water the loss.

Lagos wey be mumu come put mouth thinking that since Rivers which they calculated would be the only option to water their VAT by reopening Onne Port (rivers) is in the game forgetting that there is Warri port (Delta state). You now see why Okowa didn't waste time to sustain the heat?

In all this, if they win it will be a prryhic victory because
1. Lagos Port monopoly will be ended
2. Warri and Onne Port will be reactivated to Punish Lagos
3. Serious boundary adjustment will occur in Rivers state to punish Wike. This will favour Abia, Imo and Anambra.
4. To make the reactivation of the ports Viable, access road to favour the ports to the main destination of what used to come from Lagos port (SE) will be laid.

So you see. Its all win-win for us.
If the states lose.
FG will most importantly punish Lagos by reopening only Onne which will turn Wike and Sanwo Olu from allies to competitors, then facilitate the Oil wells destined for Imo state to Imo State and more.
Though this one won't bring a big benefit for us but its something atleast.
Thats why we pray that Wike and Lagos win.

You so strategical in thinking.
Thanks for this exposition.

You should try and write articles on this topic and share on Facebook.
You can do it under anonymous tag.
But please do consider this.

Our people have not learnt to deal with Non Igbos in Nigeria with the ruthlessness they truly deserve and have dealt with us in the past.

We need to evolve our thinking as per relationship with non Igbo tribes in Nigeria ASAP.

Thanks for this dissection of issues.
You are good.

LILTJAY1:
igbos are always claiming self importance you dont know before. . Reason why ghana, sa, kenya and asia countriesarse treating them like rags ..
They are delusional

But you want us to support your venture nah, and we said No!
Yorubas are liked all over the world, we know, that's why we want to play neutral this time around, inugo!
Fight your VAT war, we watch from sidelines!

Ttalk:
Look I don't have time for all these sensational victim mentality.

Which constitution, policy or law monopolised Lagos port. The fact remains that Lagos port attract more patronage because of its economic advantage over other ports and not because of any monopolization.
Stop whipping up sentiments and focus on subject of discussion that wants Igbos neutrality in VAT issue thereby exposing them as major parasite

Igbos want Biafra, Yorubas and the rest of NIGERIA want NIGERIA rigged in their favor post 1970 to remain with few more tweaks to allow them gain More.

I wonder who the real parasites are?
Those who want a country of their own, or those preaching fake unity built on inequity?

BKayy:
Check this out


If any of the two (Lagos and Rivers) lose what they put at stake, who will benefit?
Is it not us?
So I don't understand why these people think that we will intrude when we are not stupid

Rivers lose out, we take back Obiigbo they stole from us, and take back Egbema and they better say goodbye to all the oil wells currently up for grabs between Imo and Rivers.
I swear, our lack of cunning and slimy Politicians have seen these Southerners do us shege!

Lagos lose, the North will get angry and open up the seaports all over the country, the monopoly they cornered since 1970 and are now crying VAT will be gone.
We will see which VAT they will be crying about going forward.

Ndi ara!

BKayy:
Neutrality means that we have nothing at stake.
Ok let me pour all out since you can't grab from the signs.
Lagos is staking their Port monopoly.
Rivers is staking Igbo Oil wells.

But what are we staking?
Nothing. We have absolutely Nothing to lose but gain.
So tell me why we should interrupt the party?

You couldn't have put it better.
You are a genius.

Nwanne, I have to know you offline.

Blue3k:
Mumu you said they were dragged then admitted they did it out their own self interest. My point stands you're not needed stay out the way. The courts will see who has the better legal arguments.

You are a jelly fish.
Common sense should have told you that "dragged" in that context has nothing to do with force.
Rivers State want as many states backing them as possible.
Now you have not been able to offer the question of why?
Yet you claimed Rivers needed no support.

Ubulu eke!

The Court is still subject to the FG.
The supreme judges are still answerable to the FG and obviously under their control.

Rivers and Lagos wanted it to be a South vs North something.They want the North cornered.
But SE will not play your game. We have our own game to play.

You can continue crying.

BKayy:
Exactly.
Whoever wins benefit us.
If the Government reopens any Eastern port in a bid to reduce Lagos VAT and Influence = our gain.

Infact whatever the FG do in the course of fighting Lagos and SW is our gain. Leave Wike, he knows what he is doing.

You understand the game well.
We have alot to gain by remaining neutral in this battle.

It's a golden opportunity we must not miss.

Ttalk:
You are not interested in one of the major source of revenue to your region, that's just admitting that youve been benefitting unjustly from VAT money

Are you interested in the fact that my region was stripped of it's oil rich lands and was ceded to neighboring region?
Are you interested in the lack of federal parastatals in SE?

Are you interested in dilapidated state of every single FG road in SE?

Are you interested in SE being the only region with 5 states?

Are you interested in the bureaucracy FG have used to ground Enugu International airport that was becoming a hub for Ethiopian airways in Nigeria forcing Ethiopian airways to relocate to Portharcourt?

Do you fight with us for these injustice against us?

Why then should we care about your perceived injustice to your own region?
Do you take us for fools.

We have nothing against your VAT war, don't get us wrong.
It's just not our problem or priority.
And if any one offers to solve one of the above of our problems, in exchange for us to have you lose your VAT war, we will do it without blinking an eye, knowing you have done same to us in the past and would do same in the future if the positions are reversed or opportunity presents.

It is what it is.
We are the monsters you made.

FakeUnity:
You said the same when the East was the first to reject RUGA. When we told you and your fula masters we were NOT interested in that Greek gift. Swines like you had your stupidity turbo-charged asking the East not to shout marginalization when states start sharing 'RuGA national cake'.

How far with the RUGA largess today? haven't majority of you myopic mor0ns joined the East in now rejecting RUGA?

Like how they told us we don't know how to play politics because we rejected their Buhari.

Imagine blind people trying to show those with eyes the way

Ttalk:
.
Your neutrality has nothing to do with merit of case. But don't come here tomorrow to shout maginalisation

My neutrality is interest based and has a legitimate merit!

VAT or no VAT is non of my interest.
I don't see why my governors should show any solidarity to any of the warring sides?

Blue3k:
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Lol yes I did debunk your lies then as I did now. I even posed the port stats that you idiots couldn't refute. Who asked you to join mumu? I already said you weren't needed but you have to feed your ego somehow. Lol you brother debunked himself like a mumu showing the states are joining based on their mutual interest.

You are a mumu o!
What is support and what is solidarity?
Was that ever the onus of this thread?

SS states showed support to Rivers, everyone expects SE to follow suit. Then you are here to tell me that SE support is not needed, to which I asked you why then did Rivers need the support of other SS states?

Rather than answer the above question, you turned it into a cyclical argument.


But SE will remain Neutral,
Jump into ocean if you like.

Newton85:
Shut up and keep your grandiose delusions to yourself! Lagos and Rivers don't want your support in the first place. What support can parasitic states that feed off of Lagos and Rivers offer both States? Are you alright in the head at all? "We will only be dragged into it, if any of the warring parties offer us incentives." You mean Lagos and Rivers, both of whom your parasitic South Eastern states feed off of via VAT, should offer your parasitic States "incentives"? I've always known you Eboes suffer from mass psychosis, but your own brand is very chronic. Go take your meds or check into rehab. What a delusional dimwit!

Another watery brain.


South East will remain neutral.
Go kill yourself.

The two parties involved in this issue are the North on one side and SS/SW on the other side.
The SE has elected to play Neutral and pitch tent with the eventual winner.

That's sophisticated politics 101!

Cry me a river.

Blue3k:
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They were dragged because they were working in their common interest mumu? Lol I'm glad you idiots are dragging the group down. I already told you stay neutral but you can't help but cry about about it like deranged mumu. They wouldn't talk about vat until rivers filed the suit is irrelevant. Its still in their interest as you admitted.

You are demented.

The thread is already about Ndiigbo staying Neutral.
And you came in and claimed that we are inconsequential. That Rivers didn't need us to determine the outcome in Supreme Court.

I then asked you, why then did they have to drag the other SS states in , if they don't need numbers to determine the outcome? You started running around and told me that the others joined because they have shared interests.
Of course we know they joined because they have shared interest, Rivers dragged them in by appealing to their sense of shared interests. But that wasn't the question.
The question was that if the number of States filling the suit against FG with Rivers is inconsequential, why then did Rivers drag the rest of SS states in ?
You are a real Okpo ngaji!
Obulu Eke!

Of course Rivers State know that the more states involved in the suit, the more Political weight it generates!
It's common sense. A jellyfish like you can't know more than Rivers State handlers.

Stop displaying your stupidity in public.

Gratefulheart1:
Oil business wasn't booming during the civil war era. Gowon just didn't want the country go into pieces under him. That would have meant he was weak or put him on the wrong side of history.

Right now, years after the war, the country is a contraption and everyone knows that the forced marriage isn't working and not likely going to work. All the abuses on the North from the south etc, assuming there isn't oil, north would have left voluntarily.
Disintegration this time around would have worked with no war. Assuming the oil belonged to the North, this country would have ceased to exist.

The motive that fought against secession then is quite different from now.

You are just running around in circles.
You claimed NIGERIA couldn't let Igbos go because of Niger Delta and it's oil.
I showed you that NIGERIA had captured Niger Delta so early in the war, yet fought for additional 1 year plus to capture Igboland, and here you are changing goal posts again.

Newton85:
You're not even in the VAT discussion in the first. States that matter are the ones fighting the FG. Go to bed with your grandiose delusions.

Don't be silly.

The thread says that we will not support SE/SS or the North.
We will remain Neutral.
It's basically saying that VAT is non of our problem and that we intent leaving it so.

We will only be dragged into it, if any of the warring parties offer us incentives.

You basically have a basic comprehension issue. I can't help you.

Blue3k:
Oh so you admit they joined because it's in there interest like I said in the beginning mumu. Lol you clowns are too stupid for your own good. Appealing to shared interest is called dragging them in your idiots mind.

You are a jellyfish or a fish with rotten brains.
I can't be the one interpreting simple English with you.
Other SS states would'nt be talking about VAT if Rivers was not championing it, so Rivers "dragged" the rest of SS in.
Likewise Lagos for SW.

Common sense!

But when you are a witch, you lose your sense at the mention of SE, and you come here talking off tangent.

See. I have indulged your empty skull enough. Move along. Let me reason with reasonable people.

Newton85:
For you to remain "neutral" you have to be in the discussion in the first place. Like, Lagos and Rivers are fighting their own battles alone so how can parasitic South Eastern States, who are benefitting from the present VAT arrangement help both States in this VAT fight? Imagine Lagos asking for the help of parasitic South Eastern States who are benefitting from her (Lagos)? Are you delusional?

Lol!
The parasites are those who cry on top of every Biafra thread preaching fake Unity.

You and I know that if you conduct a referendum in the SE today, the unanimous decision will be in favor of secession from Nigeria!
There are two sides to the VAT battle, those for and those against.
SE will not take any side.
We will be Neutral.

You can go jump into the ocean if it helps soothe your pains.

Blue3k:
Lol tell us how they dragged then mumu with cane or sanctions. Stay neutral you dont matter so you can stop crying and asking me dumb questions. The court will hear the case regardless. This is a legal battle not a vote.

You you silly.
They dragged them by appealing to their sense of shared interests.
Common sense.
I can't be spoon feeding you.

We are neutral. You are the witch crying blood all over this thread on top of our neutrality.
We don't matter, yet you have been here screaming like a witch set on fire in middle age Europe- go figure.
I'm not the cause of your pains, when you are tired, you drag your decomposing dead body off my thread. Ozu!

FakeUnity:
I don't know why they are crying foul for the same thing they have always done without remorse and claim they are 'sophisticated'.


We also want to be 'sophisticated' and play sleazy politics without being 'emotional' as they always accuse us of doing.

I tire.
Someone cannot be neutral and sophisticated in peace again?

Ikegwuru!

Blue3k:
I told you it doesn't matter if SE now you're crying cause you were exposed. The supreme court doesn't care who joins. Why are asking mumu questions like I told you what the SE must do? Lol mumu don't forget to tell us how rivers and lagod forced the other governors to join. Did the cane them or sanction them?

You are silly.
The supreme Court doesn't care who joins, yet Rivers dragged the rest of SS and Lagos dragged the rest of SW into the suit, while peeps expect SE to follow suit? So that you can run along with North vs South Agenda.

Sorry it will not Agend.

SE will remain neutral.
Go hit your face on the wall, no one cares, we maintain neutrality!

FakeUnity:
Like I said, we will support whatever is in our INTEREST FIRST not yours. You've always done the same so why shouldn't we.

Have you ever seen Osun or Oyo senators and reps supporting resource control since 1999?

Very simple stuff.

Neutrality on this issue is in our best interest.
And should it become more intriguing,we will support any of the party ( SS/SW or North) who offers us something we can't refuse.

Isn't this how all politics are played and how the rest of Nigeria have played their politics before now why tagging it "sophisticated" politics?

Blue3k:
Lol this weirdo crying like a wounded animal because you're not needed in the court case. How did rivers and lagos drag the other states clown? Did they threaten to cane the other governors or economic sanctions. They're simply showing solidarity because they feel its in their interest but you're too dense to see the obvious.

Lol!
You are a jelly fish.

Who talked about threat here?
Are you okay at all?

Why are you running around like a pained witch because I said that SE will not show support to any of the waring party?
You dragged your dead body here to tell me how SE is not important bla bla bla bla!

How is that any of your concerns how we intend to play our politics on this matter of national importance?
The thread is basically saying that it is not in SE interest to show support to SW and SS on this issue, bad you are here bleating like a he-goat.

SE is not important, ngwanu leave my thread since we are not important, mba! You are here Crying like a baby bush.

Blue3k:
Lol long mumu rants after your foolish logic was exposed. Your presence isn't demanded or needed. Join the FG if you like supreme court will hear the case shortly. You weirdos just like inflating your egos about irrelevant stuff.

Did take your meds today?
So you mean Rivers State was stupid in dragging other SS states along and Lagos was stupid in dragging other SW along?

If the presence of other SW and SS states other than Lagos and Rivers will not influence court outcome, why then did the governors meet?

Are you saying the Governors are stupid while jellyfish like you are wise?

Ewu Gambia, sit down let me lecture you.
This is not just a legal case, this is a political face-off.
Know this and know peace.
You want to turn it North vs South.
But this is not SE battle, we have nothing to lose or gain in this battle, so we will play the Neutral game.

And should the North need an alliance, we would be willing to offer it, once they are ready to trade on our own terms.
We should be eyeing the return of all Igbo speaking territories carved into SS from Imo and Abia (Egbema and Oyigbo) as a starting point.

This is the type of sophisticated politics SE Should be Looking to play to get even.

Not victim or sympathy politics where by we support ingrates and people who ganged against us in the past to feather their own nests!

Go and hit your head on the wall if you are angry.
I hope we have PAs and Aides to SE governors taking notes here.

Tingotoe:
You've started going sentimental with your Ndigbo will be fine talk. No government in the south east can make ends meet without federal handouts from VAT. This is the story of at least 2/3rds of the states across the country. Your governors know this fact better than you hence their refusal to support the change

Ndiigbo are the least dependent on Government in the whole country.
I tell you, we will be fine, VAT or no VAT.

descarado:
Believe you me, the se governors will love to be the ones championing this( except supreme Court governor) but South East is a collective target.
The federal govt is looking for any loophole to crush igboland to the ground. They are just threading with caution. We know where igbo is in national affairs and how our nebors love us wit passion.

Nnaa.
This is not time to play victims.
This is time to play sophisticated politics.

Rationality demands that SE remain neutral in the VAT and let the former allies of SS/SW and North battle it out this time around, while we watch proceedings from side lines and strategize on how to exploit both factions and their conditions to our own benefit!

VAT or no VAT, we are good.
So this is a perfect situation for us to exploit.
It's too good and tempting to let slip while wallowing in victim politics like you just did above.

mightyhaze:
Wisdom!


South east don't want to fight anybody.. we want to be sophisticated' and 'build bridges'.

Gbam!

Tingotoe:
If you remain neutral those who want to change the status quo stand a greater chance of winning and then you lose out on the free VAT money, but if you join the other side you get to keep the free cash flowing

Not really.
VAT or no VAT, Ndiigbo will be fine.
We have enough middle class with unlimited remittances from Europe and North America and even South East Asia to absorb whatever Economic shortages we might face.

We are just not giving any body free support anymore on anything.

We only support when we have something to gain in return.

VAT or no VAT, SE will be fine

This is really not our battle.
So we are better served playing the neutral waiting game and exploiting both sides when and where possible .

Blue3k:
Nothing is guaranteed in life. Nobody was dragged they came on their own based on their own interest in the case. Ok we'll wait for the ruling. Just sit by your presssence is not needed or demanded.

Get off my thread if you have nothing to comment.
You don't know more than Wike and Rivers State who went and dragged the entire SS states into the suit.
Neither do you know more than Lagos that has dragged the entire SW into the suit.

And Yes! Should play the Neutral role here and watch things from the sidelines.

That's the most rational thing we should be doing.
There will be no emotional or sympathy support to SW/SS coalition from us.

We are for everyone and for no one!

That's sophisticated politics 101 .