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The Senator is in order. And the feeling is mutual.
Ndiigbo don't want to share a country with Urhobos as well.
Nnamdi Kanu and IPOB are not really trying.
No reasonable Igboman wants a country with Urhobos.

Owobokiri, see the kind of insult you and your MCM are bringing to Ndiigbo by linking us with groups we are much better of without o!

Ifele Ana emedi kwa unu?

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Many times, some of the emotionally charged stories we get from Minorities against Ndiigbo is that the region was marginalizing them while taking oil from their Region.
But we know that Crude oil was never a major source of income and revenue for Eastern region. It took long time for oil to be a money spinner.
Eastern region was always cash trapped and had to be innovative to make money. Minorities were not the only ones neglected. There are many parts of Igboland that never knew what Government meant. There was simply not enough funds to go round.

To show how inconsequential crude oil was in scheme of things in this period, Eastern region got only 65,000 pounds from crude oil exploitation in 1959. A big money for an individual, but hardly anything for a Region.
I would post a table for crude oil revenue for Nigeria between 1961 to 1965. Remember the civil war happened in 1967.
Because I notice when minorities talk of marginalization, they think of crude oil in this modern era when production has been ramped up and muddle it up with meagre revenues in early 60s when the country was still trying to develop the crude oil.

It is in trying to be innovative and create alternative source of Income for the region that the then Financial minister of the region,DR S.E Imoke introduced the P.A.Y.E system of taxation for the first time in Nigeria in 1956 as financial bill proposal to Eastern Assembly, which became a huge success in ramping up the region revenue and was subsequent copied by the rest of the country.
And guess who had 2/3 of the region population and hence contributed most (2/3) to the taxes? You guessed right, Igbos!

Nevertheless, the aim of this thread is not just to fantasize about how future Igbo only Biafra would look like, but to look into the accusations against Igbos by some Minorities( please I'm speaking strictly about Eastern Minorities) who argue that Ndiigbo marginalized them in defunct Eastern region and project that Ndiigbo would do same in Biafra.

So the question is: Are there really any statistical data to prove that Ndiigbo marginalized Minorities beyond baseless emotional accusations?
If yes! I would want a minority to bring them to this thread, because as an IGBO I have studied all statistics of appointments and projects in defunct Eastern region and found out that at no point did Ndiigbo marginalize minorities.

The Igbo constituted 2/3 of the population of Eastern region and all projects and appointments or scholarships done by Eastern region Government always reflected this ratio.
It also has to be recognized that Crude oil was not a major source of income for Eastern region for most of it's existence. Because I noticed that many minorities had twisted tales of Enugu and Igbos siphoning their oil wealth and using it to build Enugu, when in truth, PH was built on the back of Enugu coal resources for easy transportation to Europe through train to PH. The other source of income for Eastern region was palm oil, which Igboland was not lacking in. So there was never a time in Eastern region that the Minorities were the chicks laying teh the golden egg Ndiigbo were siphoning. Everyone contributed. Palm tree was abundant in Rivers, Imo, Abia, Akwaibom, Cross River and sparingly in Bayelsa, Enugu, Ebonyi, Anambra.
But Enugu had coal!
It wasn't until 1956 that crude oil was discovered in Oloibiri and it took a long while for crude oil to be developed as revenue spinner. Remember that the civil war was in 1966. That's just 10 years later after crude oil discovery. Hardly enough time to develop it and exploit. Remember that crude oil was also discovered in Owaza in today Abia State at just 1 year after Oloibiri and while Oloibiri had since dried up, Owaza Wells are still running.

Did the Igbo dominate the Eastern region? Yes we did because our numbers warranted it. We were 2/3 of the population. But did we take more than 2/3 of the region appointments or projects at any point in time?
Nope. Instead when I wade through our dealings with minorities, I found out that sometimes we even had to forfeit our 2/3 portion to carry everyone along.

Though has posted many of the data I wanted to use to butress my points, but I would still have to analyze those data to drive them home.

I understand the importance of independence and strongly believe that every single African ethnicity should have the right to be independent if they so desire if small countries like San Marino in Europe of just 32,000 can be an independent country of their own, surely Ijaw of more than 2 million people should be able to aspire to be independent and not be part of any other country be it NIGERIA or Biafra, but what is not cool is for minorities to go on spreading false narratives of Igbos marginalizing them in Eastern region, when no such thing happened.

Some weeks back on one of your posts I made a rebuttal about the erroneous and mischievous rants of some of my (our) misinformed Niger Delta brothers.

First and foremost let me tell you all a little story for the avoidance of doubt.

I am from the Agbo ethnic group in Cross River State. We are located in Abi Local Government Area which is a coastal settlement and unarguably the smallest LGA in Cross River State in terms of landmass and to a large extent population - slightly a few thousands ahead of Bakassi LGA.


My fore bearers both on my maternal and paternal side were given the opportunity to serve in then Eastern Nigeria regional government.

My grand uncle Dr.S E Imoke of blessed memory was an all influential cabinet minister in the regime of Dr M I Okpara. He held the Trade portfolio and was also Finance minister at the time until the unfortunate incident of January 1966.


He was the longest serving Education minister. His son the Urbane Liyel Imoke is the immediate past Governor of our state “Cross River”.

During the outbreak of the war, he was the Biafran Commissioner for Refugees and Humanitarian affairs. One of my maternal uncles also served as Permanent Secretary in the ministry of health at Enugu.


My maternal grand father was also a front-line member of the Eastern Nigeria regional house of Chiefs.

Outside my family circles, another great Cross Riverian M T Mbu was nominated a Federal Minister for Transport and Navy by the Igbo controlled NCNC.

It's on record that Mbu was Nigeria's first Ambassador to the UK, UN and the USA.

He is from Boki in Cross River state. Boki is another minority ethnic group just like my native Agboland. The Igbos gave him the opportunity to excel ahead of their own worthy sons at that time.


He is the father to a Senator MT Mbu jr. Another person who is noteworthy is the late Chief Michael Eta-Ogon who was the Administrator of the oil rich Port Harcourt province in the first republic.

He is also from the same Boki with Mbu. Thomas Weir Ikpeme an Efik man from Odukpani in my native Cross River was the longest serving Permanent Secretary in the Eastern Regional Ministry of Education.

The key point is that the Igbos were comfortable with us “the minorities” that was why they entrusted education solely in our hands.

Not only education but other critical areas like Public Works and Transport etc. N. U Akpan an Ibibio man from Akwa Ibom state was the technocrat behind the eastern regional public service. He was the Secretary to the regional governement

Thompson Akpabio, an Annang man from Ukana in present day Akwa Ibom state was the regional minister of health.

The former Governor of Akwa Ibom state Godswill Akpabio is his nephew.

There were other high ranking cabinet ministers of minority origin like one of our family good friends, HRH Amanyanabo E P Okoya, Agada III the Ibenanowei of Ekpetiama in Bayelsa State, Chief. Erekosinma of Rivers and a whole lot of others who are too numerous to mention.

During the secessionist struggle, an Ogoni from Rivers state, Chief.Ignatius Kogbara was Biafra's Ambassador to Britain.

My dad's friend Chief. Lekam Okoi, from Idomi in present day Yakurr LGA of Cross River state was one of Ojukwu's trusted drivers. He is today a successful lawyer and a former commissioner in the Federal Character Commission.

Capt Akpet a minority from Cross River was also Ojukwu's dependable aide on intelligence.

Secondly for the avoidance of doubt, aside these political appointments, our people enjoyed immense goodwill from the Igbo dominated region by way of

My dad's immediate elder brother received a scholarship from the regional government that enabled him study for a PhD in soil science.

He is the first man “arguably” in Africa to obtain a doctorate in Soil science. I have friends across the Niger Delta whose parents, uncles, aunties and relatives also benefited from the benevolence of the Eastern regional government.

Unarguably our Niger Delta region received it's last major face-lift in terms of infrastructure when we were under the Eastern region.

Till the abolition of the regional system of government, the Eastern region was the most united region, they was never a recorded case of ethnic skirmish or BLOOD letting between the Igbos and other minority.

During the pogrom of 1966 we all carried the same cross to “Golgotha”, both Igbos and Eastern minorities were killed in their thousands across Northern Nigeria by the blood thirsty Hausa Fulani/Northern folks without blinking an eye.

It doesn't really matter if you were Igbo, Ijaw, Efik or a miniature Agbo person.

I never really wanted to bore you with reading this lengthy essay but it's my moral responsibility to tell the truth at all times.

I was thought by my fore bearers never to distort history and to always separate facts from fictions.

If we were not marginalized by the Igbos during the “analogue” age, how then can the Igbos marginalize us in this digital

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.legit.ng/amp/1092790-opinion-why-igbos-never-marginalize-minorities-by-rex-egbe.html

Ok.
I'm a Proud Igbo man as you could have figured from my moniker.
I have roots and relatives in Anambra, Abia, Enugu, Enu-ani, Imo and Ebonyi and have spent atleast one year of my life in all those parts of Igboland as a resident.
So as you can see I have a very broad knowledge about Igboland and Igbo clans than the average Igbo man.

I'm a core Igbo nationalist who believes strongly that Biafra should be an Igbo only project as I believe Republic of Igbo land should is Viable enough to be a full fledged functional and selllf sustaining nation of it's own , sharing boundaries with minorities.
I have done analysis on this here:https://www.nairaland.com/6570415/argument-economic-viability-alaigbo


I am also not averse to well restructured loose Confederation union with any Igbo friendly minority around us that express interest to be part of us. Such union must be well discussed and terms and conditions agreed upon by both parties.

However, I would prefer the first scenario of Igbo Only Biafra because I couldn't stop envisaging about the possibility of having a country whose lingua Franca would be Igbo language, where Igbo language would be used for presidential address and to debate in the Senate. Where Igbo language would be the official language of instruction in formal education system from kindergarten to University levels.
Where the national anthem would be written in Igbo language.
You can imagine how majestic it would be to have a Biafran Athlete win a medal in Olympics and they have to sing Biafran national anthem in Igbo while the rising sun flag goes up, in front of the whole world.
What about our national team winning AFCON and having Igbo National Anthem sang?
I have also discovered that except on few exceptions like Somalia where Islam and it's disruptive force is a big factor, Monoethnic countries are usually easier to run and easier to improve and make the living standards of citizens better.
Think of Germany, Austria, Japan,etc.


Apparently, I would very much prefer this first scenario, but I'm however not averse to scenario two. If well restructured. UK send joint team to Olympics, but Wales, Northern Ireland, Scotland all have their own independent national football teams different from England National team.
Obviously, we can have similar arrangement.

Tranquill:
And you were not even 'cockroach smart' enough to ask those your miserable elders why is it that it is you Igbos that are now propagating criminality, armed robbery and various vices to every nook and cranny of the world ranging from armed robbery in Dubai, drug peddling to China, Brazil, Indonasia, Malaysia, Vietnam (in fact all the 'sia' countries), South Africa, Kenya just to name but a few. Human collateral in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Turkmenistan ( in fact all the 'stan' countries), 419 etc. The igbo prostitution on a global scale is second to none. I am not even talking about the ones happening back home. I keep saying that you guys are without shame, the reason you have the demonic boldness to be insulting others just because they don't want to share your dirty apparels with you.

The battered image of Nigeria is traceable to Igbo shameless criminality which is a very intricate part of your way of life and culture yet, you tell me it is not something that flows from your blood line? Go get a life or join your useless ipad with your juju but it will surely fail you.

In a great man's house are vessels unto honor and vessels unto dishonor.
That's how you know a great man.

Where is your Ikwerre versions of Chukwueze, Iheanacho,Eberechi Eze, Onuachu, Kanu NWANKWO, Simy Nwankwo, Jay Jay Okocha, Mikel Obi, Emenike, Obikwelu (Olympic 100m bronze medalist for Portugal), Chioma Ajunwa, Perpetual Nkwocha, Mary Onyali, Amuneke, ?

Where are your Buchi Emecheta, Cyprian Ekewnsi, Chinua Achebe, Chimamanda Adichie?

Where are you record breakers in the world of academics?

Who knows Ikwerre?
When has Ikwerre person ever put NIGERIA in world map?
You are insignificant and inconsequential.

Ndiigbo are big hitters whether in crime or in noble Ventures, we don't go small, we go big or go home.

Nigeria starting lineup (4-3-3): Vincent Enyeama; Uwa Echielije, Kenneth Omeruo, Godfrey Oboabona, Efe Ambrose; Sunday Mba, John Obi Mikel, Ogenyi Onazi; Ikechukwu Uche, Ideye Brown, Victor Moses

Above is NIGERIA starting eleven the last time NIGERIA won AFCON in 2013.
Out of 11 players, 4 are Igbos.
That's 36% of the starting team from a single ethnic group for a tower of Babel country of about 500plus ethnic groups.

It even gets better when we look at the whole squad.
Out of the 23 man squad, 10 are all Igbos.
That's like 43% of the entire squad.
Nearly half of the team by a single ethnic group.
And of course, not one single Ikwerre is on the team, that's how insignificant you are.

chrisxxx:
Unfortunately what I speak is a Nigerian language unlike you who claim to be Jew but contend my language with me.

A Nigerian language that belongs to Ndiigbo.
So where is your Bini language?

By the way, the Jewish origin story is an Umunri thing.
The rest of Igbo clans(Ngwa,Ohaji, Nsukka,Ezza, Nkanu, Idemili,etc) don't have such origin story.

Igboid:
Commonly referred to as “Mba Ji Isi Acho Isi” (the Nation of Headhunters) for their long history of military prowess and exceptional bravery in the face of combat, the Ohafia people have been known to embrace challenges and stand rigid in the face of danger. In a community in which strength and valor were the parameters by which social honors were conferred, wars—especially those with the White Men—were a prime opportunity for young Ohafia lads to earn eagle feathers of their own with which to brandish their caps—a badge of inimitable courage and achievement.

Such an opportunity came in the year 1901, when the British Royal West African Frontier Force (RWAFF) invaded Igboland in a punitive campaign to demolish Igbo resistance to colonial rule and avenge the Massacre of their compatriots at Obegu. That year, Obegu, a pro-British town in what is now Abia State, had been sacked and a large number of its inhabitants were massacred by anti-British forces headed mainly by the Aro and their Ohafia, Abiriba, and Abam allies. As retribution for their involvement in the massacre, the Ohafia people were among those targeted by British forces.

That year, Eke Kalu, a former-slave-turned-business man, was visiting the British-held port city of Calabar on a business errand when he witnessed the White Men and their African soldiers preparing for their assault on his homeland. Earlier in his life, Kalu had served as a load carrier for RWAFF troops throughout their campaigns and had witnessed the devastating effects of their artillery and machine guns. Driven into action by the urgent need to save his people from their imminent doom, he hurried out of Calabar via canoe and returned to Ohafia, where he issued warnings to no avail.
As they approached Ohafia, the British forces first stopped at Ebem and set up camp. As soon as they pitched their tents, a charge of Ebem warriors led by their commander, Idika Echeme, attacked. Startled at first, the British suffered a few casualties but soon brought the force of their Maxim machine guns to bear on the hapless Ebem warriors, who were armed with mere dane guns and swords. (Continued in comments)

British artillery further devastated the charging warriors and cut down wave after wave, eventually routing the survivors. After the battle, Ebem was burned down.

Back in Ohafia, news of Ebem’s demise only helped Kalu dissuade his people from what was considered suicidal resistance. As the British approached Ohafia, a delegation led by Eke Kalu awaited them at the town’s outskirts. As the soldiers neared, he waved a bamboo pole upon which was tied a white handkerchief and shouted: “Anyi kwere na nde Bekee” (we agree to the British).

Complete Reading here: http://igbobia.com/?q=how-the-ohafia-people-were-saved-from-british-massacrethe-1901-story-of-the-brave-eke-kalu.html

Here you see how another Igbo village, Ebem was ransacked levelled and it's surviving warriors mopped up by the British.
The rest of Ohafia town after seeing what Happened to Ebem had to surrender.

This story didn't cover it, but after such surrender, the British usually constitute a trial and still arrest and jail main ring leaders to the resistance and spread the news to neighboring towns to dissuade them from mounting any resistance to British colonialism.

That's how British kept pilling up Igbo prisoners.

Commonly referred to as “Mba Ji Isi Acho Isi” (the Nation of Headhunters) for their long history of military prowess and exceptional bravery in the face of combat, the Ohafia people have been known to embrace challenges and stand rigid in the face of danger. In a community in which strength and valor were the parameters by which social honors were conferred, wars—especially those with the White Men—were a prime opportunity for young Ohafia lads to earn eagle feathers of their own with which to brandish their caps—a badge of inimitable courage and achievement.

Such an opportunity came in the year 1901, when the British Royal West African Frontier Force (RWAFF) invaded Igboland in a punitive campaign to demolish Igbo resistance to colonial rule and avenge the Massacre of their compatriots at Obegu. That year, Obegu, a pro-British town in what is now Abia State, had been sacked and a large number of its inhabitants were massacred by anti-British forces headed mainly by the Aro and their Ohafia, Abiriba, and Abam allies. As retribution for their involvement in the massacre, the Ohafia people were among those targeted by British forces.

That year, Eke Kalu, a former-slave-turned-business man, was visiting the British-held port city of Calabar on a business errand when he witnessed the White Men and their African soldiers preparing for their assault on his homeland. Earlier in his life, Kalu had served as a load carrier for RWAFF troops throughout their campaigns and had witnessed the devastating effects of their artillery and machine guns. Driven into action by the urgent need to save his people from their imminent doom, he hurried out of Calabar via canoe and returned to Ohafia, where he issued warnings to no avail.
As they approached Ohafia, the British forces first stopped at Ebem and set up camp. As soon as they pitched their tents, a charge of Ebem warriors led by their commander, Idika Echeme, attacked. Startled at first, the British suffered a few casualties but soon brought the force of their Maxim machine guns to bear on the hapless Ebem warriors, who were armed with mere dane guns and swords. (Continued in comments)

British artillery further devastated the charging warriors and cut down wave after wave, eventually routing the survivors. After the battle, Ebem was burned down.

Back in Ohafia, news of Ebem’s demise only helped Kalu dissuade his people from what was considered suicidal resistance. As the British approached Ohafia, a delegation led by Eke Kalu awaited them at the town’s outskirts. As the soldiers neared, he waved a bamboo pole upon which was tied a white handkerchief and shouted: “Anyi kwere na nde Bekee” (we agree to the British).

Complete Reading here: http://igbobia.com/?q=how-the-ohafia-people-were-saved-from-british-massacrethe-1901-story-of-the-brave-eke-kalu.html

Some of the Aro leaders, like Okoro Toti, were arrested, tried by tribunals, and hanged. The power hitherto held by the Aro Confederacy quickly evaporated and Eze Kanu Okoro (king of Arochukwu), went into hiding but was later arrested. Although Aro dominance crumbled in March 1902, many Aros took part in guerilla campaigns against the British in the region such as in Afikpo (1902–1903), Ezza (1905), and other areas where the Aro had a particularly significant presence. The defeat of the Aro did help the British to open up the interior, but serious opposition to British colonial penetration in Igboland clearly did not end with the Anglo-Aro War. I

Aro warriors And ring leaders were arrested and jailed too.
Alll part of Igbo prisoners.

Every single Igbo clan fought the British Individually and lost and had warriors and ring leaders arrested and jailed.

So why wouldn't colonial prisons be filled with Igbo prisoners?

Ogwashi-Uku’s fall in 1911, paralysed the revolution; some 300 warriors, were arrested, tried, and jailed at Calabar. Among them were Chief Ijeh from Issele-Uku and Chief Ibe from Ugbodu. Others were chiefs: Mordi, Odum, Nwajido and Banoba of Idumuje-Unor – heroes all.

Imagine at the end of just Ekumeku war.
300 Igbos were arrested, tried and jailed.
Just at the end. We haven't considered the numbers captured during the war itself, and it's a resistance that lasted for 31years.(1983-1914)
Imagine how many Igbo prisoners only just Ekumeku resistance produced.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2019/03/ekumeku-war-anioma-uprising-against-british-rule/

JohnSin97:
Still making stupid claims sharing no data but stupid NL threads created by rettards like you.... you're living proof of that stupidity is prevelent in igboland.

Pained Yoruba Muslim.

Where is your stat for the type of crimes committed by Igbo prisoners?

Resisting a colonial tax collector was a crime in 1940 punishable by jail sentence or fines.
Resisting British colonialism was a crime and all the warriors who fought and lost were summarily arrested and jailed.
No where in Nigeria were there more resistance to colonialism than Igboland,the Igbos were never a people to accept subjugation without putting up a fight,so rationally speaking, there should be more Igbo prisoners than any other ethnicity in Nigeria.

I mean Yorubaland literally invited the British to come and colonize them after they got tired of protracted Kiriji wars. So how exactly were they going to have high colonial prisoners?

The Bini were a monarchical people, once you arrest the Oba and jail him in Calabar, they all surrendered. But the Igbo were not monarchical. There was no single head to arrest to end it all. Mass arrest was the only way and even that was not always effective as new ring leaders usually sprang up.

JohnSin97:
Bring stats showing that those Igbo jail birds were prisoners of war and probably not ngua cannibals, Igbo rapists and robbers.

So basically you can't prove their crime. Since fighting the Colonials or resisting their taxation and other colonial policies were crimes in those days and no region fought the Colonials in Nigeria more than Igboland.

And so your high Igbo prisoners is expected and your stat subject to anyone interpretation.

But I Know the type of crime should be in that document you screenshot and posted here but for some reason it doesn't suit your agenda, so you are keeping it to yourself.


Well either way, until you provide stats of their crimes, your current stat remains meaningless and open to any interpretation.

Traditional Igbo society never had rapists or armed robbers, neither did we have drugs of abuse.
So your stat is obviously useless.

But we know for certain the crimes of Yorubas here and that they lead in them:https://www.nairaland.com/2246902/criminal-infested-region-southern-nigeria

JohnSin97:
Could haves, assumptions and 0 facts or data......I don't expect more from a dumbass.

Your stat is incomplete and left to any interpretation.

Bring forth the adjoining stats for the offense of the prisoners, then we have a deal.

We know that in Igboland there was a fierce war against colonialism by every single Igbo clan with Aro-Anglo war and Ekumeku war being the biggest and most popular, and that each of the wars were accompanied by British victory and subsequent mass arrest and imprisonment of the warriors and their ring leaders.
Chinua Achebe outlined this in TFA novel.

We also know that Igbos saw taxation as alien and unacceptable and revolted violently against it which led to many arrests of defaulters by colonial police we called "Cotuma" and subsequent imprisonment of defaulters.
This led to the famous Aba women riot subsequently.

So until you provide stats that show the crimes committed by Igbo prisoners. Your stat remain meaningless.

JohnSin97:
True....but like every highly urbanized cities high crime rates aren't surprising, we have your economic refugees brothers coming from the east and hausa/foolany polio amputees coming from the north all to our region... So why wouldn't crime rates be high, although it's not stopping all foreign embassies and multinationals from situating in our "unsafe" region. But what's important is the data of ethnicities in those prisons, we won't have such data again but below is one conducted by your colonial white masters in the 1940s/50s. It obviously shows populate the prisons more than other tribes and am sure if we take an honest census like this today it won't be any different.

Lol!
And what were their crime?
For all we know majority of them could have been mainly Ekumeku warriors captured at the end of the war, they could have been Aro warriors captured by the end of Anglo-Aro war, nearly every single Igbo town had to put up resistance against British colonialism and the British had to defeat each and every single town separately and there after they went about arresting ring leaders of such resistance in that town once defeated, tried and jailed them for almost life imprisonment. They could have been colonial tax defaulters, no other place in Nigeria were there more resistance to colonial rule and taxation than in Igboland and most of them were arrested and tried by colonial courts and there after jailed.

So until you attach the crimes of those Igbo prisoners, your stat is meaningless and is open to any interpretation any one likes.

But here, we have stats of Yoruba criminals and their crimes:https://www.nairaland.com/2246902/criminal-infested-region-southern-nigeria

We know their crimes were not related to resistance to colonial rule.
We know they were notorious armed robbers, terrorists, internet frauds, etc.

gwafaeziokwu:
You are a complete bush man. The first sentence of the article you cropped would have given you an idea of what the text was all about. But no, you ran along like a mad man to expose the kind of fake education you lots received in the Southwest.

Now answer me, is the article or page you cropped talking about the average deposit made to the bank by all Igbos in Nigeria as at 1964. Or is it talking about the average income of subsistent farmers in a specific rural/ remote village in eastern heartland.


Does this your hate induced, poorly articulated garbage you just fed your fellow nincompoons from the wasteland also cover the average salaries and income earned by Federal civil servants which we all know was dominated by the Igbos pre civil war.

Does your wishful imagination of a poor Eastern region also include the likes of Louis Odumegwu Ojukwu and other successful Igbo business men plying their trades all over Nigeria as at 1964?

How stupid can you guys really get bikonu.

Igboid

Nwanne I saw it.
I knew there was a manipulation in the both data he presented as they are both irreconcilable.
Which is why I was wondering why an interpretation of a data supposedly collated in 1964 should be presenting figures in Naira, a currency that didn't exist in the era of data collation.
I had also asked him to provide the original source of the screenshot data so that we can do verification, which he declined.

You see! Ndiigbo cannot forge any form of Unity with Yorubas.
This is because 50% of Yorubas are Muslims and have strong Igbophobic Agenda rooted in Islam and which connects them to the Caliphate sitted in Sokoto.
The Yoruba Christians would always inadvertently side with their Muslim brothers over Igbos, one for ethnic solidarity even when they know that their Yoruba Muslim brothers are wrong, and secondarily because they themselves fear for a future in Nigeria with just their Muslim Yoruba brothers, overwhelmingly Muslim North and a bit confused SS minorities who don't know their left from their right, without Igbo overwhelming Christian population to balance things.

I see IPOB and MNK trying to form alliance with Yorubas, but with Yoruba Muslims constituting as high as 50% of Yoruba population, such alliance would not work as the North would use them to betray any collective cause.

Ndiigbo and MNK/IPOB must be very wise enough to realize the above.

Ekwuchagokwe m.

Now let's focus on thr ones who have been awarded the title of notorious arm robbers as well as the well known arm robbers in Nigerian history. Corrupt officials would be included as well. I'm not going to take credit for this finding. This was beautifully written for us by Shuma Maliga

Anyway, the most notorious armed robbers in Nigerian history and in this century were always Yorubas.
From Shina Rambo aka Mathew Oluwanifemi
http://gistmonger.com/90s-armed-robber-shina-rambo-i-beheaded-100-men-pounded-27-babies-slept-with-my-motherpic/
To Czar aka Abiodun Ogunjobi
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/08/godogodo-bigger-than-shina-rambo-police/
To Alhaja Faith Balogun (though an Edo state indigenous but she is married to a yoruba and her husband shared the wealth of her crimes and not once did he ever reported her so I'll include her)
http://www.dailyindependentnig.com/2013/03/end-of-the-road-for-alhaja-faith-lagos-robbery-queen/

These three are the main armed robbers that your own state police officer described as the "most wanted"

History of Armed robbers, Company liquidators, Rapists and Notorious official criminals in Nigeria

by Shuma Maliga

NIGERIA TOP TEN ARMED ROBBERS

1. DR. OYENUSI- The greatest Nigerian armed robber in history and number One Nigeria Armed Robber. Oyenusi is a Yoruba man from Osun State.

2. BABATUNDE - another notorious armed robber from Yoruba who bastardized white lace in his days with his gang. He operated with his gang almost the same time with Dr. Oyenusi- (the greatest Nigerian Armed robber in history).

3. FOLORUNSO - another powerful known armed robber of Yoruba origin who stole with blood in his hands. He was Babatunde's best friend and they rob most times as a gang. He was said to have impregnated one of Babatunde's wives before he was killed.

4. SHINA RAMBO: A no nonsense Armed Robber. Nobody knows whether he is for real or a myth. He is also proudly Yoruba.

5. LAWRENCE NOMAYAGBON ANINI- A celebrity Armed Robber that made dummies out of the Nigerian police in the 80's. Lawrence Anini whose gangs caused fear and terror in Benin. He was from(Mid West) today's Edo state and his mother is Yoruba. Many believed he's smart in Robbery but not still as smarter or dangerous like Dr. Oyenusi(the greatest Nigerian Armed Robber).

6. MONDAY OSUNBOR- Another bloody Armed Robber of Yoruba origin. Osunbor is Anini's deputy.

7. Inspector GEORGE IYAMU. Remember he was the senior Cop that made Anini's career successful. He was a top Armed Robber in police uniform. He supplied intelligence and Arms to Anini's gang. He was number three in Anini's Gang and number seven in Nigeria's Armed Robbers history book. He's also a Yoruba man.

8. KAYODE WILLIAMS- Another brutal Armed Robber in history who later turned Pastor. The son of famous Mrs. Williams. Kayode was Oyenusi's best friend and he is Yoruba.

9. OBIDIOZOR OTOKOTO- A ritualist, robber who killed people for ritual purposes, hitman, racketeering, loan sharking and general crime merchandise. He is igbo.

10. DERICO AND YEMO.

See for yourselves

JohnSin97:
This why you're daft....Jesse James, AlCapone and billy the kid were some of the most famous and ruthless criminals in america and they were all white but it didn't change the fact that majority of the convicted criminals were african american men. So even if the most famously ruthless criminals were all yoruba's it doesn't translate into them having the most convicted robbers and jail birds... It's why data analysis is important and not just rettardedly relying on Google searches.

But available data shows that SW has highest rate of crime in Nigeria and Lagos was collated separately from SW in the stats.
Whether as individuals or groups. Yorubas lead in crime rate in Nigeria
https://www.nairaland.com/2246902/criminal-infested-region-southern-nigeria

See the above stats for yourself.

You also have a drug Baron as your political Jagaban.

And a drug addict/Baron as your governor:

JohnSin97:
The guy who tried to hijack a plane is from northern nigeria and his father owns jaiz bank....I can see you're enjoying yourself in your ignorance and stupidity I'd leave you to it.

Taa!
The guy is a Yoruba Muslim.
Don't deny one of your own.
I'm sure you are a Yoruba Muslim too.

JohnSin97:
The stats then show that you guys were jail birds. Jail is the natural habitat of the flatin0 male.

FBI most wanted list- Yorubas leads
EFCC most wanted list- Yorubas lead
International terrorist of Nigerian Origin who tried to hijack an airplanehttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umar_Farouk_Abdulmutallab Yoruba-Muslim
Highest crime rate region-SW
Region with drug Lords as leaders-SW
Region with jail birds as legend and premier- Awolowo a jail bird ( sentenced for financial misappropriation), still a Yoruba legend.

https://www.nairaland.com/2246902/criminal-infested-region-southern-nigeria

Yet a Yoruba can talk about crime?

In Igboland we catch criminals and put them in Prison.
We don't make them Jagaban or governors ( AMBODE told us a Yoruba governor is a drug addict/lord)

Nsogbu dikwa.

JohnSin97:
Evidence that can't get a conviction. You're as daft as a brick.

https://www.nairaland.com/2246902/criminal-infested-region-southern-nigeria

You can't run away from your shadow.

A drug Baron led race has no moral ground to speak on crime.

omonnakoda:
Who is or was Paul Anber and why should we take his opinions seriously?

Who are you and why should you opinions matter?
Paul Abner have the sources of his stats.

I Know your pain is severe. Maybe you can log into your other(Johnsin97) moniker and wail properly.

JohnSin97:
The facts currently visible shows that unlike the bullshit you wrote, igbos are drug peddling crime apologists with the highest drug pushers and criminals in Nigeria......we see how you guys celebrate crime. Stop bullshittin yourself.

Here is a thread on crime rate in Nigeria by geopolitical zones.https://www.nairaland.com/2246902/criminal-infested-region-southern-nigeria
SW leads as expected.

JohnSin97:
You're not guilty of a crime until you're proven guilty by a court and appropriately sentenced for it, until tinubu is convicted and sentenced then he's still better than kuje alumni's like ozur kalu and the likes......not my business if a few Ipob thugs are harassing their leaders in germany.

There are enough evidence of Tinubu drug history past.
http://saharareporters.com/2009/02/18/bola-tinubus-heroin-tainted-assets-forfeiture-judgement#.VLxWZQpyxfQ.facebook

JohnSin97:
All available stats show that 99% of Nigerians on death row for pushing coke in Asia are flatin0 Jews.

Lol!
Yet we don't have a drug lord as our political leader.

You even have a drug lord as former senator, and thanks to Ambode, we know that his successor is a drug addict/lord too.

Unik3030:
I applauded u yesterday when u gave a detailed analysis of how to fight a war n your presented your analysis like a reasonable man should but here u are showing us how selectively reasonable u could be.

U brought the white man analysis of how u are the best to massage your ego n that of your tribesmen something we can relate to inferiority complex or unnecessary validation from people who don't care about u but when u were countered n presented with another white man analysis who paint u black,u are here trying to change the narrative n give excuses for yourself.

If your presentation is anything to go by that also justifies the fact that u are criminals too,since u so much love the white man validation.

U Igbos have something in common n I notice it's everyone of u,when a narrative favours u,u defend it to high heaven but when d table turns u lament.

An Igbo guy said Nnamdi Kanu is d only man in the world who has never lied n everything he said is truth n must b swallowed hook line n sinker.I told the guy Nnamdi Kanu also said 99.9% of Igbo women are prostitutes which include his mom n every Igbo lady we know n the guy started insulting me.

That's d hypocrisy of all Igbos,say yes when it favous u but scatter everything when tables turn

How exactly does number of prisoners of Igbo origin paint Igbo bad?

Are you okay at all?

The number of Igbo prisoners only represent the number of criminal caught. It can mean the East had a better policing than other regions whose system were poor and so couldn't rid their society of criminal elements.

Stats is one thing, interpretation is another thing.
You want to give the stat a negative interpretation while I gave it a rational positive interpretation. What is wrong with that?

Anenih the famous criminal was not Igbo, Oyenusi was not Igbo, Shina Rambo wasn't Igbo.
These were the three most notorious criminals in Nigerian history that received most media coverage.

You are the one with the hypocrisy.

JohnSin97:
The facts currently visible shows that unlike the bullshit you wrote, igbos are drug peddling crime apologists with the highest drug pushers and criminals in Nigeria......we see how you guys celebrate crime. Stop bullshittin yourself.

Well, so far as you are not doing the drug peddling in our land, we can't stop you.
It's the duty of the countries they are domiciled in that has that obligation.

But in Yoruba land, a drug lord is a political point one well honoured by all and sundry, so bad that they think the whole country should accept a drug Baron as a president.

All available Stats show that SE has the lowest crime rate in Nigeria.

JohnSin97:


I don't chew on bullshit......for a tribe that celebrates and gives chieftaincy titles to drug barons I find your article utterly fanciful and hilarious.

Chew on that.

Lol!
You provided raw stat and gave it your own jaundiced interpretation.
I gave it a better interpretation using factors currently visible as a guide, and you are as expected already in pains.
Cry more.
https://www.nairaland.com/3664225/south-east-most-secure-geo-political-zone

You have a known drug Baron as your political Jagaban. You all bow down to him despite his dirty past, yet you have temerity to talk about Igbos who stone criminal elements like Ekweremmadu for feeding fat on public funds while people suffer in penury.

If we have Biafra, Ekweremmadu would be in Prison, if you have Odua, Tinubu would be a God.
And you wonder why our prisons had more people in them than yours?

JohnSin97:
Gives not actual information about the general standard of living.

It's no secret that igbos before the war occupied top positions in government just like the fulani's of today but that is not in anyway representative of the general living standards of igbos or fulani's..........the north has more billionaires but dangote's wealth isn't representative of the general standard of living in the north. The author of this book obviously wanted to paint the igbos in a very positive light......but since we're all wankking off to the "white man's" report below is a colonial report on the ethic make up prisons.... showing that igbos were predominantly jail birds, note that crime rates are usually higher amongst poor individuals, e.g black americans.

It could also mean that Igbos were less tolerant to crime and were more likely to report a crime than other ethnicities hence had more criminal elements incarcerated.

Little wonder the EASTERN region was the most peaceful region in Nigeria post independence leading up to Biafra war and remained the most peaceful region post 1999 until the Python dance and now UGM.

Number of people in prison doesn't necessarily represent crime rate. It could represent a better effective community policing capable of riding the society of criminal elements very quick and maintaining a relatively more peaceful region than others whose community policing is defective or culture is more tolerant of letting criminal elements stay free

Chew on this.

Efewestern

It was a known fact that NCNC & NPC needed to weaken AG and when they saw the perfect opportunity, they keyed into it, perfect political play! Also, I don't see the need for you to tag my opinion igbophobic. This is us debating past events and me presenting my facts based on my little understanding.

All the three parties sought to weaken each other.

You said NCNC threw their support for The Midwestern referendum mainly because of Anioma, now if I may ask, why didn't they support the deployment of Western Igbos to the eastern region as raised by some western legislators? Infact, they were attempts by some groups in Asaba to make this possible but instead, NCNC focused more on the creation of Midwest.

Because only Anioma wouldn't have been able to generate the energy needed to break free from Ibadan grip. A synergistic coalition with the Binis (Oba Bini played a big role in midwest creation) and the Edoids (Ebitu Okotie played major role too) looked to be a better bet at getting the job done.
You get the feeling that once midwest was created, it was a matter of time before Anioma would have merged with Eastern region if the coup didn't happen.

like I've said, every party had something to benefit, reason for the collaboration and the massive acceptance of NCNC in Midwest. The minorities needed freedom, the NCNC needed to weaken and expand its influence.

Nope. An ungrateful person can always cynically assign twisted reasons for why someone he has prejudice about helped him.
For example if you give him food when he is hungry, he would claim you only gave him food because doing so puts you in God good books and would in turn help you go to heaven.
So yeah. I understand perfectly your mentality over there.

Wasn't it Aguiyi Ironsi who made Ejoor the governor of Midwest after the January 1966 coup? Forgotten that Ejoor was among those targeted by the coup plotters to be terminated but outsmarted the assassins?

Infact, Ironsi couldn't trust Ejoor in Enugu any longer, he had that relocate him to Benin.

Yes Ironsi did. But Ejoor always had predilection for the North and always viewed the East with suspicion.