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Zikkyy: what's important is that it's achievable. chikenna

Boomark: Zikkyy is trying to tell us that our Holy Father can manage Unholy places just to receive worship.

What i noticed about is that he stands for the truth but longer-throat will not allow him leave some things.

Zikkyy: This one is easy na get an abandoned sango shrine, put freksy inside the shrine(if he is JW), add truthislight and ijawkid (+ other JW you can find around) and just to encourage them, place a pride of lion outside. The shrine will convert to kingdom hall sharp-sharp even an active sango shrine can be converted to a kingdom hall with this approach

Boomark: What of the one that has a mixture of 'shrinish' things and Christian things?

Zikkyy: the difference between a shrine and a christian place of worship is what goes on in them. God can be present in a shrine just as he can turn his back on what you would call a Christian place of worship. or let me say that a shrine can become a Christian place of worship just as a kingdom hall can end up becoming a shrine

italo: You're saying you taught falsehood from satan. How then are you sure that you do not still teach "improved" falsehood from satan? Afterall, your sect would have sworn that the falsehood was true then. Same way, tomorrow, you sect can come to the conclusion that what you teach today is false, that they have found "new truth." If you can teach falsehood once, you can teach it twice...or thrice or forever.

italo: You have always attempted to show it, but you have always been wrong. So should I just accept your teachings, which are from Watchtower's teachings, which have been proved to come from satan?

italo: What bold change is Reyginus doing? Is he changing Catholic doctrine. Reyginus is confused. He doesnt know what he believe. He says "I believe in the Holy Catholic Church" then he says 'the Catholic Church is abominable.' How can you advise me to follow such a confused man?

italo: Forget about this issue. Afterall, it is even unlikely that Jesus used 90percent of the 3 yrs in preaching. Did Jesus not sleep? Did he not eat. Did he not pray?

You Jehovah's Witnesses just come up with silly conclusions, dont you?

Italy: I see. It's just that one would think that an organization that claims to be God's organization would want to educate God's children and treat their ailments. But never mind. It's not just your way.

italo: ...And erroneous teachings can only come from satan. No?

italo: If the teachings were from paganism, I would not seek to improve on it. I would simply abandon it. How do you improve on the devil's teaching? Oh! I forgot Jehovah's witnesses are busy trying to improve on the devil's false teachings (as you have admitted above).

italo: God forbid it...that I should think your way.



Yes. And he was baptized at 30. That makes it three years of preaching out of 33 years on earth, which is 9percent.

Am I lying?

italo: “Avoid Independent Thinking .. How is such independent thinking manifested? A common way is by questioning the counsel that is provided by God's visible organization.” (Watchtower Jan. 15 1983 22)

Who is lying? You or Watchtower?...or both!

italo: Yes. Unlike you who would rather re-name false prophecies "expectant fantasies."

italo: A meteorologist can make a forecast that will not come to pass because the meteorologist cannot and does not claim 100 percent certainty.

But a prophecy is 100 percent certain to come true since it is God's message. If it doesnt come true, then the person who made the prophecy lied that it was God's message.

...And that is what your sect did.

italo: What the devil is interested in is LIES and CONFUSION.

...And that is exactly what your sect engaged/engages in.

Edoboy1: Mmmmmmm, we shall know who is telling the truth and who told lie on that day. I really don't beliv these stories of people going to hell. Una nor dey go heaven?

Zikkyy: with all the info i provided, you are having difficulty providing an answer and you were able to conclude that zikkyy worship eaostre without any form of info! why should this one be difficult for you? by the way what's the difference between a shrine, church and kingdom hall?

Zikkyy: was trekking to my farm and it started raining, the sango shrine was the only available shelter. i even sat on the priest special stool (decorated with cowries and other stuff) to rest my tired legs while waiting for the weather to improve, am singing and praying. so what sayeth thee? will God reject my prayers?

enilove: frosbel,your question as regards Gen.4:10 that "are we to suggest here that Abels blood was literally crying out to God" , shows your level of spiritual understandings.
What is the diff btw blood and a soul?
Levit 17:11 states" For the life of the flesh is in the blood:
Gen.9:4 "But the flesh with the life thereof,which is the blood thereof ,shall ye not eat."
This tells you that the life,which is the soul, is the same with the blood.You may see blood as a liquid substance,but it is really the life.That is why witches and demons drink blood.
God says it has a voice ,because it is a life,you are giving your opinion that it does not have a voice,so cannot cry.But God says ,the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground,because it is lively.

Your problem is that you assume too much.Lets see your opinion on Abraham's bosom.
You said "But how can he perish ?He is not really dead,he is already living with the Lord in Abrahams bosom,located in Heaven.
Is Abraham's bosom located in heaven? I want to tell you that the Bible says otherwise.

John 3:13"And no man hath ascended up to heaven,but he that came from heaven,even the Son of man which is in heaven." Meaning Abraham Isaac,Israel,David etc that died b4 Jesus's death on the cross were underneath the earth according to our Lord Jesus Christ.
Luke 16:23 "And in hell he lift up his eyes ( not his head) being tormented,and seeth Abraham afar off ( miles or distance) & Lazarus in his bosom ( in Abraham's abode). Verse 26 "And beside all this, btw us and you there is a great gulf fixed ( a great ocean fixed) :so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot ;neither can they pass to us ,that would come from thence". This shows clearly they were in the same place ,underneath the earth.

When Jesus died in the flesh b4 his resurrection,he went to Hades or sheol ( the abode of the dead ) & made proclamation to those who were in spiritual prison.( Greek word for proclamation is Kerusso) That is, proclaiming the truth to those in Abraham's bosom . Proclaiming to them the gospel and then led them to heaven to dwell with God. Eph 4:8-10 "Wherefor he saith,When he ascended up on high he led captivity captive ,& gave gifts unto men.(Now that he ascended;what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth( hell ) ?

Isiah 5:14 "Therefore hell hath enlarged herself ,and opened her mouth without measure :and their glory ,and their multitude......shall descend into it."
Does it make any meaning to say grave has enlarged herself?

You cannot impose your opinion.Hell is real.

alfaman2: I discovered the wonderful powers of Satan here. Thanks to all the Angels of Hell for saving my soul from Yahweh.

true2god: Dats great, so u run an 'independent' oil firm and still hav time to obtain a degree. U r a business genuis. Wish u the best of luck.

Hope u dey cope well with the JTF shaa?

true2god: Lol. If u hav aces to oil block ursef i dnt tink u will hav so much time niraland.

Zikkyy: You never answer the question. Will God reject my prayers? The priest left in a hurry, not enough time to clear all his stuffs

alexleo: Am thru with arguing with you young man. Both of us are on different platform so no point arguing with you. Am not also interested in reading your posts on this matter because its useless to me. We can talk about any other thing like: oil business in ijaw land. Thanks

Zikkyy: I did not go there to destroy the place and I did not go there to worship sango. The shrine is no longer in use maybe the sango priest don get visa relocate abroad oya answer the question

true2god: Ok Frosbel, frm ur analysis so far, Jesus examples on the story (or allegory as JW falsely put it) was Jesus den lying by saying:
1. Lazarus dies and was carried to abraham's bossom (a place of comfort)

true2god: 2. The richman died and he cried (even afta his pgysical death)

true2god: 3. That the richman begged for water afta much suffering

true2god: 4. That the richman asked Lazarus to be ressurected to mortal life (or physical life) so that he can warn his brothers on earth to change their evil ways so that they dnt face the same fate he is facing.

true2god: Ok lemme ask u some simple questions.

1. Do u believe that except a man is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God (John 3:16) or are u born-again?

true2god: 2. Do u believe that Jesus is the savior of mankind (and not only 144,000 pple) or the mediator between man and God (and 144000 pple).

true2god: 3. Do u believe Jesus can forgive all ur sins if u repent.

true2god: 4. Do u believe Jesus is coming back for his own pple (act 1:

true2god: 5. Were u baptized in the name of the father (God the almighty), and of the son (Jesus the lamb) and the Holy spirit (the comforter)

true2god: My friend i understand at least 95% of JW doctrines and tricks, i knw wat im saying. I have been dealin with dem for so many yrs and on few occasions attended the kingdom hall. Its convenient for JW to condemn the apostolic faith, assembies of God church, CAC, RCCG, deeperlife (even where JW are blatantly lying) but they cant condemn the teachings of the church of the latter-day saints, eckancker, the grail messangers. The reason is that they belong to the same false xtains org, so y condemn dem.

Ok since christ teachings on hell fire is not literal (only according to JW), dnt u tink his teachings on heaven and paradise are not literal as well? Since there is not eternal punishment (according to Jw), dnt u think ther is no eternal presence of the righteaous with God? Is it that u choose is convenient for u?

musKeeto: una dey tap, white man dey drill. Oh boy na offshore things o.. Lol

nlMediator: ^^

I'm surprised you couldn't lift a finger to defend the charge of sadism you've made in countless posts around here. The simple question for you is: if you believe God would do what Hitler & Co. did, can you still justify your stance against eternal torment on the basis that it contraditcts the nature of a loving God to punish people eternally? In simpler terms, is it loving of God to destroy people one time as punishment?

If you can't defend that, then you need to quit deceiving yourself that you're arguing for a loving God and using that as a cudgel to attack others for presenting God as a sadist. Neither one time destruction nor everlasting punishment shows love. [And btw, it is irrelevant whether one is worse than the other].

But you know what? God has a side that is not about love, as we human beings define it. He is also a God of Justice; a consuming fire.

Of course, if you create a false image of God, to suit whatever interest you may have (love, etc), you can't be sure you're still describing the same God. That's the same thing as rejecting Him. If I insist you're a Caucasian female and truly beleive it, do you think I'll receive you as you when you knock on my door and appear as a black man?

Pygru: Sinners who fail to repent, will burn in hell forever (eternity)!!!