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musKeeto: Lol @ ijawkid... Especially the ND.. That place dey 4ked, I swear...


And we only have ourselves to blame, Ompadec, nddc, niger delta ministry... We still dey deceive ourselves.. Smh...


Imo, to your tents, o Africans... Make everybody answer their name.. This Luggard dream wey we don dey try actualize since, no dey work at all at all...

oboy the whole situation na wa...if I tell you how useless nddc dey,you go tire for life

tobechi74: almost every family has one personal pastor . One who prays for the family periodically for prayer. He normally sees dreamss anf vision and warns the household of impendibg danger



he is called daddy


at times you hear women say

my daddy told me not to go for easter.
My daddy told me not to eat anything in my office


daddies could either be fellow pastorrs in church or from another denomination.they are so gifted that they could tell your deepest secret.


So who is ur family daddy?one or two or more? Whats his gift? Y was he chosen?

I call no man(in the religious context) Daddy.....

alexleo: And satan has blinded you to the bitter truth of the bible. That's why you are behaving as if you are his spokes person on hell and other related matters. Small boy(ijawkid), listen to your master or suffer the consequences of not ignoring us according to his majestic order.

Alex you are falling our hands o....why are you not settled?....we are reasoning from the scriptures.....calm down.....

enilove: It is really sad when some christians read something in the bible and would decide or infer that it means something else.
Hell is hell. Grave is grave and diff from hell.
Sheol means the abode of the dead.

The bible mentioned grave on countless number of times.It also mentioned hell, both in the new and old testament, many times. So,why should we suggest or assume that the hell should not be included in the bible, but be replaced with the word "grave"?
It is simple, we are afraid of going there.
But the wise would think of what could take him to hell and avoid doing such things.
The bible says in Romans 8:6 that " to be carnally minded is death;and to be spiritually minded in life and peace."
It also says in Proverb 15:24 " That the way of life is above ( spiritually minded) to the WISE ,that he may depart from hell beneath. Not grave.

Why is satan ministring such messages to people, it is to downplay sin and its consequence. Eventually, he might succeed in taking as many people, as possible, to hell.

God knew it would come to this and said in 2Timothy 4:3-4 " For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers,having itching ears;And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, & shall be turned unto fables( parables or alegory ). Just as they call the story of Lazarus and Abrahim, in Look 16: 20- 25 ,a parable or fable.

We cannot continue to waste our time on this as father Abraham told the rich man that , even if someone in hell should go to them in the world to warn them,they would still not believe. There 4, no amount of argument can change some people,since they can read it from the bible and infer a diff meaning to it.They want to rewrite the bible.

God says in Hosea 4:17" Ephraim is joined to idols:let him alone."Likewise,some people have dicided not believe lies of the devil,let them alone.

and the place of the dead is what,??...Hell fire ...

enilove I know you to be a diligent student of the scriptures....go back and sincerely do an indepth study of the root words sheol,hades,gehenna,.....

please do.......

I thought I had re-quoted proverbs 15:24 from other renditions....

New Living Translation (©2007)
The path of life leads upward for the wise; they leave the grave behind.

English Standard Version (©2001)
The path of life leads upward for the prudent, that he may turn away from Sheol beneath.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
The path of life leads upward for the wise That he may keep away from Sheol below.


enilove do you see what I am seeing. do you see how the NOT renders the word sheol...go back and do more research.....

thank you...

Pygru: Protect yourself
Just as in Ezekiel’s day the only defense against false prophets is to know the true Word of God !
Those who don’t know the word have a weak spiritual immune system and thereby cannot defend themselves against the poison of bad doctrine and false teaching.
You’ll also find that people who don’t know God’s word will become desperate enough in life that they’ll believe anything ~ even a false hope.
Remember, the largest percentage of converts to cults are Christians who didn’tknow God’s Word…
…so beware of false prophets!

and Mr/Mrs hermaphrodite,what is the truth....

Bobbysworld28: @ijawkid
I will take up ur advice for research.
Btw, Jesus became a bad man when u took ur sins on d cross II Cor 2:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
Dts y he went to hell

I never knew Jesus sawa very bad man deserving of the go to Hell sentence.....bobby you do well....

ok so Jesus being a bad man went to Hell and was ressurected to the heavens...would all other bad people have that same opportunity...

oh I forgot...i never knew Jesus also experienced the burning hotness of Hell....


my bro do your research....thank you...

Pygru:
https://www.nairaland.com/1252257/facts-should-know-jehovahs-witnesses#15162836

Has pygru always been a female or we have a mad man suffering from dissociative identity disorder..........

Bobbysworld28: @ijawkid
U said Jesus was inactive for 3 days. Do u now agree he wasn't? Do u also agree there is a hell? Jesus himself clearly stated dt d rich man was in hell. Wht exactly is ur dispute? Y r ur claims still contrary to dt of d Master? Remeber dt in d law ppl were allowed to divorce? Jesus came & shed more light on their beliefs. Now solomon said something & Jesus has shed more light in d unknown dt Solomon said yet u choose to hold on to d old. Wht more do u want?

See bobby there was one little assignment you haven't carried out yet........

Check out the original hebrew and greek words that the translation you're using has rendered as ""HELL""......

The KJV rendered all these words as HELL there by confusing its readers.....

1....HADES
2...SHEOL.
3...TARTARUS......

I want you to go do a brief study on those original terms and come back for more discussions.....I guess it was enilove that I showed how the word sheol was rendered in some books of proverbs he quoted from...........

You should go do research on your own......

That is why I also told you that some translations either made a mistake or knowingly wanted to enforce the dogma of hell fire by translating hades and sheol as HELL...........going by there wrong renderings Jesus also went to HELL.....meaning Jesus was a bad man,,.....since all bad people go to HELL.........

My bro do more study.........it doesn't kill.....

alexleo: Your questions sound so stu.pid and I don't have time for such.

.....how won't the question sound stupid when you're expecting Jesus to ressurect you when you're already with him in heaven........

If I was Jesus I won't bother ressurecting people who claim they never died........

Bobbysworld28: 4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

Angels are spirits cast into hell. These were d ones Jesus preached to IN HELL.

And where is this hell??...under the earth??.......

I never knew those angels who were disobedient were sent down below the earth....oboy scriptures dey to support your stance??....

And I hope you know those spirit creatures were thrown into tarturus....definitely not a place were wicked humans go to.............

Bobbysworld28: So when he descended he was inactive but when he ascended wht happened? I'm tolerating u because of neutrals who may think u hv a point.
Ephesians said he descended to d lower parts & then ascended to heaven dt he may fill all things. He went (active word) into d lower parts. It didn't say he was put there, HE DESCENDED! God will help u to put awau childish reasonings since u will evn claim Jesus lied so dt ur beliefs can be upheld. Shame


U r asking wht d spirit of man is. Really? It is nt just breath. U r a spirit living in dt body of urs. Because ur body is abode dts y d Holy Spirit can also dwell therein.
Lest I forget, have u reveived d Holy Spirit since u believed?

Hehehehe........and you forget that paul was referring to Jesus' own words about Jonahs inactivity in the fish of the belly and how it applied to Jesus??.........so the descend is now your problem??..........you're speaking like the word ""descend"" would have been used if Jesus was not buried....why didn't Jesus descend to the earth to maybe go and play when he was alive preaching to everybody??......the word descend simply means Jesus was buried and he stayed in the heart of the earth for 3days......inactive as jonah was.....
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I am not a spirit my brother.....you are not a spirit either.........take that crappy doctrine to pagans who believe likewise........SPIRITS are invisible.........

It is because of this false doctrine that so many people are caged with the fear of the dead.....what makes you different from a traditional worshipper that believes that after man dies his spirit can still come back to harm or do good things to others??......

That is why your nigerian films are filled with the ghost of dead ones coming to hunt there then enemies when they were alive......

The dogma of the immortality of the soul is what is responsible.........

A little reminder for my freinds alexleo,bobby,true2God etc......

Ecclesiastes 12:6

New International Version
(©2011)
Remember him--before the silver
cord is severed, and the golden
bowl is broken; before the pitcher
is shattered at the spring, and the
wheel broken at the well,
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verse 7 from many renditions...

##Holman Christian Standard Bible
(©2009)
and the dust returns to the earth
as it once was, and the spirit
returns to God who gave it."

##International Standard Version
(©2012)
then man's dust will go back to the
earth, returning to what it was,
and the spirit will return to the
God who gave it.

##NET Bible (©2006)
and the dust returns to the earth
as it was, and the life's breath
returns to God who gave it.

##GOD'S WORD® Translation
(©1995)
Then the dust [of mortals] goes
back to the ground as it was
before, and the breath of life
goes back to God who gave it.

##King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
Then shall the dust return to the
earth as it was: and the spirit
shall return unto God who gave it.

##American King James Version
Then shall the dust return to the
earth as it was: and the spirit
shall return to God who gave it.

##American Standard Version
and the dust returneth to the
earth as it was, and the spirit
returneth unto God who gave it.
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I hope y'all can clearly see what the spirit in man means and where it goes to after death...........

Jesus knew about what mans spirit really is that is why he said no man hath acsended into heaven..........Jesus knew that all that returned to the Father from all those who had died was the same life force the Father breathed into them and not some seperate entity that keeps living.................

It is this same spirit that keeps your dogs,goats ,horses,chickens, and all animals living.......and these animals are living souls just as humans are..........

Bobbysworld28: @ijawkid stop asking stoopid questions & crazy insinuations.
1. I said God is a spirit. Whtever ur definition of spirit is from dt point pls apply same to d spirit of man. If u refuse to do dis then I doubt ur sincerity.

God is a spirit from john 4:24........are humans spirits??..........you are the fraudulent person here...trying to argue that you are spiritjust as God is.....are you joking or what??...........

Please read the account of genesis.......I can't remember when last you were invisible just as spirits are.......

Bobbysworld28: 2. U said Jesus preached to d spirits in prison after he rose? Really?! I'm shocked. He who said all power in heaven, on earth & UNDER THE EARTH hv bn given 2 him. There r spirits with powers under d earth. There were spirits he preached to in prison while dead in body & alive in d spirit. Eph 4:8 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. 9 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? 10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)
Jesus wasn't inactive for 3 days as u hv bn thought. I believe u can use ur brain and ask d right questions. Jesus was alive in spirit evn when dead in body

Hehehehehe...........and your exegesis of ephesians got me laughing......so when it says Jesus descended to the lower parts of the earth ,you forgot it simply means Jesus was buried beneath the earth??.....smh!!!.....so you are one of those kids who were thought that spirits stay under the ground............

Ok my question to you......those spirits who were in captive,where were they??.....under the earth or somewhere up in the atmosphere......

Jesus was as inactive as jonah was 3days in that belly of the big fish....Jonah whom Jesus used as a case study for was inactive for 3 good days before he was released to go carry out the preaching commission......only bobby and co would run off to agree that Jonah was preaching to the ninevites while in the belly of the fish......in the same vain Jesus could never have been able to preach to any spirit until he was ressurected..........Jesus couldn't be alive and still be ressurected...you guys have rubbished the most important doctrine of christianity....RESSURECTION....if Jesus before he descended from the heavens was a spirit In heaven and you say he was alive in the spirit while dead,why then should he be ressurected??....answer this question.........

And mind you as at the time Jesus said all authority had been given him both in heaven and on earth he was already ressurected.......

alexleo: You need to be saved from your life of falsehood so you can partake of the resurrection. If not, you are heading to hell. You think God smiles at false teachings. Resurrection is for the genuine children of God while the second resurrecion is for false prophets like you who have deceived people and sinners alike.

Hehehehehe........why do you want to be ressurected??because I guess you're among the genuine children of God....I don't think you know what ressurection is and what it entails.....alexleo what is ressurection??.....would Jesus waste his time ressurecting you in the future when your spirit is supposed to be in heaven already with him??.....answer mr hell fire teacher....

Before I forget on the bolded,HELL is the common grave of mankind...please check up what sheol and hades means before saying what you aint sure of............

alexleo: God will continue to shame them.

I have asked this same bobby and you to define what the spirit in man is with the scriptures...till now you guys have been stuttering..........

The scriptures say the spirit in man(both good and bad) all return to God after man dies....genesis to revelation has consistently told us that that spirit is the breath of life........

Ona say na lie....say the spirit na a different person wey dey survive death.......

Then we ask......since all spirits return to God when a man dies,does it mean everybody(good and bad) will all go to heaven.....??

You people should be diligent with your bible studies...........

Even bin laden is in heaven as we speak because his spirit returned to God after he died.....

Bobby oooo....

alexleo: You used scripture to do what? I don't agree to satanic manipulations of the scripture which you and frosbel are experts in doing.

I guess you are one of those who won't experience ressurection...since when you die you run straight to heaven.......even Jesus didn't evade death and inactiveness......

Learn from the scriptures and stop this shout shout you're on.....

Bobbysworld28: @ijawkid
Jesus talked abt resurrection. He also talked abt heaven & hell. Stop trying to pass on half-baked principles. If u can't take Jesus' word for it, dts ur cup of tea. A good student will drop his pre-conceived notions & marry d issues raised by d master in order to be enlightened by them.
Fyi, d spirit of man lives on after d body dies.

And what did Jesus say ressurection is??....did Jesus say he would be ressurecting people who are already alive??...wouldn't Jesus be wasting his time??...........

alexleo: Yes I agree Its a parable, but only in your little mind and little brain. Keep it to yourself. I don't need your useless and satanic explanations. Go give it to the marines.

Which marines??the U.S marines...........

You stubbornly still don't want to agree its a parable abi??.......agree naaaa.......at least you won't say its demonic....I used scriptures to prove it.....

Bobbysworld28: IPet 3:18 Because Christ also suffered for sins once, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring you to God; being put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit; 19 in which he also went and preached to the spirits in prison,

C dt, Jesus was put to death in d flesh but alive in d spirit.
ICor 15:45 So also it is written, “The first man, Adam, became a living soul.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.

R u then saying dt Jesus is just a breath? Or life force?
We were created as flesh (image) and spirit (likeness) of God.

Didn't that peter tell you that he was put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit??.......wasn't Jesus ressurected before accomplishing that mission??.......what do you think "made alive" means??.......Jesus was made alive 3days after his death......Jesus was ressurected 3days after his death...Jesus was completely inactive for 3good days..that is why God ressurected him......God would not waste his time ressurecting someone who is already alive........you guys have become unthinkable because of your spurious beliefs on this issue.........

Jesus would be wasting his precious time in the future ressurecting your arrses If your so called spirits would be roving the heavens..............


Your definition of image and likeness is so contorted........I hope you do remember that Jesus and all the angels are also in the image and likeness of God??....are they also flesh??.......

true2god: Ijawkid's case is understandable, he's a good JW, just dat wen the 'light becomes brighter' on this issue, he will agree wit u. But as long as the 'light is not yet bright' he wont believe wateva u said or the bible says. He must get confirmation frm 'the head office'-Brooklyn, NY, before he accept wat the bible teaches dats not in tune with the tradtional belief\teaching of JW.

Lol.....

There true2God goes again with ad hominems.......I believe I haven't even mentioned nobodys church or denomination.......

You think your stance on this issue isn't from the traditions of the RCC??......I doubt you even know the origin of your belief........

The light is already bright from genesis.......these are nt issues concerning the last days where one has to be juxtaposing scriptural prophecies with events happening in the last days.......these are laid down truths that paganism has tried to twist for years.......

The teaching of hell fire and immortality of the soul goes against what the scriptures teaches..........you guys have unknowingly denied the promise of ressurection........I wonder if you people can boldly preach about ressurection of the dead with all the confused doctrines you have with you......

I've asked your freinds what happened to adam and the last adam when they died...all I've been hearing is nothing but nothing.......

alexleo: The way you people lie shamelessly is worrisome. The questions we asked you which one have you answered? Which bible quotations have u quoted that we ve not answered u with scriptures? How about the ones we quoted and u misinterpreted? Get out.

We have answered all.........you are the one in particular that is so stiff necked so as not to even agree with the fundamental truth that the story at luke 16:19 is a parable....you would be a stubborn pharisee not to accept that truth.........

I can't get out until we discuss to the end......

Bobbysworld28: Let me address u @ijawkid
God is a Spirit. The Holy Spirit is nt a force, rather he is/has a personality John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. 8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
We needed Jesus to let us knw him and his ministry because d previous prophet who talked abt him described him like water when he talked abt him being 'poured out'.fyi, Jesus words here are nt allegories o!
The angels r spirits and they have legs, eyes etc. How come when man's spirit is mentioned, frosbel & ijawkid refer to it as just a breath? because God breathed in man? Ask urself, could it be dt there was a transference & in dt breath was d capability for a spirit to inhabit d body already created by God? If Christ after death could go in spirit to preach to d spirits in prison, hw dare u hold this line of thought?
Abego, try to park well

Is man a spirit or flesh and blood/bone??.....when God created man did he a create a spirit creature a flesh and blood entity??.....

The angels were created as spirits,we were created as flesh..........have you thrown away d genesis aCcount??....

And who the hell told you Jesus went to preach to spirits during his death and not after his ressurection....

Are you insinuating that Jesus was alive while he was dead for 3days??.....mr bobby....eh??.........

Solomon,david,job etc all knew the spirit in all men is Gods breath,which ofcourse returns back to God......only persons who have decided to let there ears tickled would insist the spirit in man is a different entity(person) that survives death either to hell fire or heaven......

Bobbysworld28: I go home straight after work. I need 2 c my soul-mate after all d stress of work. Dt woman lightens my world

Chei....that's cool.....we wey never marry we go dey learn dey follow ona for back.....

musKeeto: I've come to a conclusion that's a mindset problem. This is not unique to the black man, ours has just tarried for too long.

Our people need to be slowly taught how to reason again. Religion has given them too many answers that they're unwilling to let go off, some are lost, others have doubts, but there are little alternative answers. Take for example, sleep paralysis amongst other known medical/neurological symptoms that have been discussed on this forum. A few accepted the scienitific explanation..

I try carefully not to make it a science vs God debate. Science has nothing to do with any God, in my opinion. Our people are known to shoot the messenger and dump the message..

Let's use the social networks, facebook, bb, twitter for better purposes, attack the myths that pervade our societies... Let people know about development and life in countries supposedly 'poor' like Pakistan..

The truth is most youths are just plain ignorant. We, just like our parents before us, are beginning to accept the lie that power can never be stable in our country, that the best 'education' must come from abroad, that our only exportable commodity is oil, that you must 'sacrifice ur mama' to make it, that success in life is God's musical chairs.....


Hmmm.. Oh boy, I don dey tok too much... Lol.. Digest that one first. I'll be back..

This suggestion is not from my scriptural stance o....but a quick solution to naijas problem is revolution......kill all the politicians and those who are connected to them.........naija needs to be re-formated......the country is mad and I don't forsee when the numerous problems of naija would stop......sometimes I can't fathom the level of corruption in naija.......no hospitals,no schools,water NO way,interrupted power supply(since I was born nepa has been taking light till this moment),and now oil theft right left center etc......

......

I just dey joke o.....

alexleo: See how people lie. What is one scripture? Overwhelming scriptures have been qUoted here to shame your falsehood but.you keep misinterpreting them. The one paul talked about spirit, soul and body you said he was talking about the church. How foolish. The one of the rich man and lazarus you said its the pharisee that Jesus was talking. When did Jesus tell you that? Many bible quotations here but satan will always lead you people to misinterpret it.

Hehehehe....my bro you err......

We've established from the scriptures that the spirit in man is Gods breath......right??......and that man is the living soul with Gods breath in him......

Try applying this basic facts to pauls statement and see how foolish your exegesis would be.............

You guys have quoted no overwhelming scriptures...........

We've asked questions to find out the veracity of your explanations but you guys have been running round circles,calling our questions useless and satanic.........

Ok I said let's look at what happend to Jesus when he died,you said NO.the idea is satanic......

We have the record of what happened to Jesus at death....let us use that case to study to end this discussuon.......

Be matured enough to engage in well founded conversations than shout out like you're sitting on a hot stove...........

Pauls words in no way suggests man is tripartite....paul was not even on the topic of creation or what man is made up of..............

Ask your self these questions...

When Jesus died
1...Where did his spirit go??
2...Where did his body go??...
3...Where did his soul go??.....

Answer now or stop shouting......

alexleo: Carry your paganism nonsense and get out of my way. Loosers on lamentation. Who is debating with u? You are the one that said you ve found out we were taught the wrong thing yet you ve not been able to prove your so called truth. Nonsense. All I ve seen in you people is satanic emotions which you are using to misinterpret the bible and asking all sorts of senseless questions. The buden of proving your new found truth lies on you. For now you people are serial failures. Get out of my way you and your false teacher frosbel with your useless, senseless, baseless and satanic teaching.

yes we are senseless and even satanic....

can you at least let your beliefs rhyme with the rest of the scriptures or do you just want to be stubborn

all we have been doing is quote scriptures to support scriptures,i dont see how that is now tantamount to satanic interpretations......

you have hinged your whole doctrine on a parable and have failed to answer questions......

you dey fall our hand my bro.....

Ubenedictus: oh, i have no problems with those titles, the apostles went about calling their fellow christians "holy ones" the title doesn't scare me.

And to your question, in a spiritual manner he sired many christians

did he sire you spiritually?...you have been a catholic before he was elected as pope....why call him holy Father?...

I cant remember u calling Italo ,"holy Italo".......

frosbel: ^^

Instead of debating issues, you are getting all riled up.

I stand on all my positions , not the teachings of a cult.

Try and sleep well tonight.

na wa o my bro...instead of debating they are geting angry

alexleo: The truth about this issue is that whether we argue it or not, if Jesus delays his coming all of us will die at one time or the other and then know the one that is true or false. What a pity for those who will take frosbel,s satanic teaching as the truth only to die and discover they have believed a lie, by then it will be too late for them to amend the lies. What a lost soul that person will be forever. May God help us. Amen

why would you call his teaching satanic??..it is even your own stance that stems from d traditions of paganism...
my problem is all u guys should have done was ask what happened to Jesus at death .....find out and draw a parallel along with the rest of the scriptures....

alexleo can you do that?

Ubenedictus: hehehehe,
i'm really surprised you seriously missed the message of those words "my father and thy father, my God and thy God". By using that phase Jesus was refering to God as His father in a unique and exclusive sense.
When he speaks of the father in heaven he either say "my father or "thy father" but never "our father" (note: the "our father" is not Jesus' prayer for himself, the the prayer of his discipies cf mt6:9). If you were a good student of sacred scripture you would have noticed this.
Wouldnt it have been more convenient to say i'm going to "our father and God"? But he doesn't say that, he clearly differentiate his sonship from ours he say "my father and your father" he even differentiate d dominion over us and over him when he say " to my God and your God" instead of "our God".
He was begotten not adopted jn1:14 say "and we saw his glory, the glory as it were of the only-begotten of the father". Jn1:18 even goes futher: "the only-begotten... Who is in the bosom of the father hath decleared him"

no one is "spilting" fathers! The message is clear, even when d father is our father, his fatherhood to Jesus is a unique, exclusive paternity thus d son is called the only/sole-begotten.
Peace

no one is arguing here that our being sons of God is on the same level with that of Jesus....

the bane Here is that the same Father of Jesus is our Father and that Jesus is not that Father...i dont see how all your explanation wants to avoid that truth...

we(Jesus and all of us) all have one thing in common.....we all came from the Father...

ube do you agree or not?...

read Hebrews 2:11

New Living Translation (©2007)
So now Jesus and the ones he makes holy have the same Father. That is why Jesus is not ashamed to call them his brothers and sisters.

English Standard Version (©2001)
For he who sanctifies and those who are sanctified all have one source. That is why he is not ashamed to call them brothers,

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
For both He who sanctifies and those who are sanctified are all from one Father; for which reason He is not ashamed to call them brethren,

the bolded solves all the wahala....

Jesus being the only begotten son of God and the firstborn of all creation does not change the fact that we and Jesus all share and have the same Father and that Jesus is not that Father....

Ubenedictus: i'm not back yet, the project i'm engaging will consume my much mental energy for atleast 3 months. Theres a world out there, I'm just passing by.
Those comments will stand the test of time even if no catholics are left on nl to defend it, it will still remain true.

stand which test of time?....

ask strikt if it would...... .....

Ubenedictus: Interesting! I'm really missing stuff
I Mr Ubenedictus hereby endorse this message.
Hehehehehe.
Strik help me pray say goshen no catch me dey use e words.

My guy where you go na ??you go settle bokoharam and FG there fight??.......

That strikt comment wey you dey endorse dey under serious scrutiny o.......ask strikt....