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Ugochux:
Does it mean d man doesn't knw d model or is he trynna impress me..mmaybe I hv to chck it myslf..cn it possibly be. 2003 model?

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Ikenna

masaratiti:
Hi Ikenna, I have looked everywhere in Ibadan for the MFD but can't find it. Please can u be of help in buying it? Sending it down to Ibadan? I would appreciate it. Please can we arrange this? Cheers!




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It sounds like the MFD (Multifunction Display) is faulty. Replace it with another. Cost about 2k. Heat seems to be the killer of the MFD.

Ikenna

My concern is what if I help you by buying a used one here in Abuja, send it to you, you mount it and it refused to work. What will happen? You will return it to me to get you another omw or refund your money, right? That's what I am not comfortable with . You can't know how good an MFD is until you mount it in the lion. And I am not ready for that stress that goes with returning and resending stuff. I hop you understand. Good morning.

Ikenna

Ugochux:
Good day Ikenna, I'm considrn buyn a 2005model 406 frm sm1..he bought it smtym last year..its Automatic gear trnsmssion..wht re d things dt I'm supposd to look out for?thanjks

2005 year model 406 with auto transmission does not exist.

Thank you.

Ikenna

motherlode:
thanks, but do you have any subsidiary workshop in lagos?!.

I stay in Abuja. Thank you.

Ikenna

slinkky:
please what is the recommended oil for the power steering pump of Peugeot 307.

Use Total ATF fluide-II D.


Ikenna

Mubz:
Hello House, so here is the problem. My 406 V6 model fails to pick when trying to accelerate. It really drags, especially from 1st - 2nd gear (sometimes it even jerks). My Mechanic is suggesting its the catalytic converter as it is repressing the engine and needs to be changed. He has checked the plugs and all seems okay. I'm still very much in doubt though. So, my question is this?, Can't afford the CATS for now as the mechanic says it costs about 30k, will there be any effect/s if i remove the CATS without replacing it immediately.. Thank House, awaiting response

I am surprised that no point in your post you mentioned you scanned the car.

Please, that ES9J4S engine was not designed to be troubleshooted with guess work or trial and error method you are metting out on it. Whatever that is causing the hesistation and sluggish running is/stored in the engine ECU. ALL you need is to plug in PP2000 and deal with the culprits reported. A lot of sensors or components would give your sypmtoms when faulty.

If you are in Abuja, conatct me off forum to discuss when to bring the car to me to carryout PP2000 session on that Lion.

Ikenna

ugees:
@IKENNA Please how about the peugeot 407, nobody seems to be talking about it. is it a good car to acquire?any idea on the price?

thanks

407 is as good as every other lion.

It cost about 2m or 2m+, depending on the model and the state. You can get the phase 1 lower than 2m though.

Ikenna

sammy265:
Am in Enugu rite now but will be back soon; however, is d pin 1 to be inserted starting from d left or from d rite with respect to the female socket on d oil pan?

The male connector/socket determines the pin one. Check the newly purchased socket. You should see the numbering of the pin on it. Irrespective of the wire colours, the numbering are the same, as long as the Socket is from a Lion. The socket can only go in one way, so the position of pin 1 will always be the same.

Ikenna

badaruwa:
Hello. I am so relieved to see i am not the only person who likes the 607. I love mine for so many reasons. Thanks Ikenna for your comments and for sharing your thoughts on the pug 607. Where may I purchase the diagbox you mentioned please? Contact me ASAP. I also sent you a request on whatsapp so I may join the Lion's community please. Thanks man. Stay blessed...

That's very good to hear. Truly, the 607 is a very nice Lion, a good one. Thanks for your testifying.

I sell the Diagbox. I have only 1 left at the moment. Contact me off the forum to discuss it.

I am yet to receive your WhatsApp message.

Ikenna.

sammy265:
Afternoon guys, just joined this forum and am hoping to be helped. The oil level sensor cable for my 406 prestige EW10 engine got disconnected from the level sensor (located at the oil pan - called bottom plate), as a result the male socket got broken and left the cable hanging.
Three cables with colours - yellow, red and white; now have gotten another socket (not the exact, but a fitting male socket)but I don't know how to have the cables connected in the right way. Tangible response will be highly appreciated

What you have is Oil temperature and oil level sensor, because the sensor does dual work, since yours is EW engine (even if you don't have oil temperature gauge on instrument panel).

You will find these 3 codes/numbers on the 3 wires: 414, 411 & 415. These numbers are stamped on the wires.

The connector I also numbered: 1,2 & 3. The connection on the connector should be like this:

Pin 1: 414 (Green).

Pin 3: 411 (Red).

Pin 4: 415 (White).



* The pin 1 should be the ground, meaning, it will either be green or green with yellow stripe colour.

I believe this will help. If you still can't connect it and you stay in Abuja, bring it to me.

Ikenna

Op,

I believe we have spoken on phone. Like discussed, I am not in Abuja now, but will be today. I should be in town before 4pm. I would need to physically troubleshoot the systems.

Ikenna

smankerana:
Meanwhile, lkenna, kindly check my vin. Thanks. VlN
VF38136FZF812y0779

The VIN you provided its not correct. Besides, it should be 17 digit, not 18.


Ikenna

I have forwarded the complete VIN details to the email address you provided above.


Ikenna

Op,

Your Dad will need the Peugeot starter DVD I produced last year. The DVD will prevent anyone from butchering his Citroens anymore. Find the link below:

The vol. II will be out soon.

https://www.nairaland.com/1942595/dvd-how-prevent-breakdown-expensive



Ikenna

motherlode:
weldone sir, the VIN is VF7X1RFVF72006925! But sir can you kindly drop your phone number so that whenever i am ready, my dad will give you a call? Thanks for your mention and also in anticipation of your reply!
* bit of joy *

Find few details of the VIN:


Vehicle: Citroën Xantia II

Warranty start start: * Not clear

Driving Position: Left Hand Drive.

Silhouette : 5 Door Saloon.

Engine: XU10, 135 hp, 2.0 L, 16v, Inline-4.

Transmission: 5-speed manual, BE3, BVM5.

Interior trim type: Ancone Velour.

Body colour: Crimson.

Other Badge: 2,0 L, 16v.

Fuel: Lead Free Petrol.

Fan: 2 fans, 2 speeds.

Wheel style: Steel Wheel.

Tyre: 185/65 R15 88H.

ABS: Available.

Alternator: 80 Amp.

Air Conditioning: Available.


Etc.


If you want the remaining details, mail or text me your email address to forward.



My phone number is 08052811236. If you guys are in Abuja, you can ask your Dad to bring the car for me to check the state of the systems.


Ikenna

motherlode:
citroen xantia, wine colour. Bros how can i get to know the engine type, transmission e.t.c because my dad has gone out, jez tell me and i will reply as soon as possible but @ the owner side of the vehicle i.e. The door, i saw 2.0i 16v. I don't know if that's it?
Thanks for the mention and also thanks in anticipation of your reply!

Just seeing the thread now.

Could you post the VIN of the Xantia? The number starts with VF7 (V for Europe, F for France & 7 for Citroen).

I want to check Citreon database to know what engine, transmission model & type, year model, etc. I need the year model to know if it has OBD 1, OBD II or no scan port.

The 2.0 litre engine you said you saw written means the car likely have XU10 engine. Notwithstanding, send the VIN to confirm.

Any good Peugeot Mechanic can handle the Xantia powertrain, since the petrol versions all have XU & ES engines which you will find in 306, 406, etc.

I would suggest you acquire Diagbox for electrical troubleshooting, if has OBD 1 or OBD II scan port.

I am waiting for the VIN.

Ikenna

karaye:
@IKENNA, PLS WERE CAN I GET PEUGEOT 207?,HOW MUCH WILL IT COST?,
THANK U

I don't know the current price. If you need the 207, contact me off the forum to discuss it. I have contacts in France and Sweden that can ship in one for you.

Ikenna

smankerana:
Meanwhile, lkenna, kindly check my vin. Thanks. VlN
VF38136FZF812y0779

I will do that tomorrow.

I will need your email address to send the VIN details to you. Text or mail the address to me, off the forum.

My contact: ikenna351@gmail.com or 08052811236.

Ikenna

smankerana:
Hi fellows! Glad to join this wonderful forum of lion owners. l found this forum last three days and mad it upon myself to read all the threads. My appreciation to lkenna for his selfless service.

However, last week my lion started overheating with the stop sign beeping. A mechanic detected a faulty fan and made me replaced it. Having gone through this forum from page 1, l now realised that the man had connect the fan to work non stop and ofcours removed the t stat. I now suffer from all the attendant effects of his actions as mentioned by lkenna in many of his post. Can anybody pls name a place l can scan my lion in Jos?

You may have to acquire your own PP2000. It's a necessary tool for any modern Lion owner. I sell the scan tool. If you need it, contact me off the forum.

You also need to watch my DVD to understand your lion better, including basic preventative maintenance tips on lions. Here is the link that explains the need for the DVD: https://www.nairaland.com/1942595/dvd-how-prevent-breakdown-expensive


Ikenna

Happy new year house!

Ikenna

Happy New Year!


Ikenna

unleashed123:
Please where is the coil pack located on Peugeot 307, and any adverse effect of driving a car with faulty coil park.

You need to first state what engine is it. 307 doesn't come with one engine model or type.

Notwithstanding, if its petrol engine, TU engine or EW10 engine, the coil pack is mounted on the cylinder head. But the engine model will determine what covers the coil pack which would need to be removed before you can see the coil.

A failed coil pack will give cylinder(s) misfire or rough idling. Depending on the extent of the failure, could make a car stall and not start again until replaced.

Ikenna

Peacefullife:
All right. I will do that when I get back home.

Thanks for the advice and encouragement. Will contact you if I need further guidance.

Ok.

If you have anymore question or clarification on Peugeot 607, do let me know. Good morning.

Ikenna

We need to understand what we want to compare, in terms of power.

NA I-4 vs NA V6.

Turbo I-4 vs NA V6.

Turbo I-4 vs Turbo V6.

If one were to choose between Turbo I-4 and Turbo V6 for power, which one would one honestly go for?

Durability of both? There is something you guys need to understand. I will explain with two brand of cars.

A certain S-class 600 with 12 cylinders stated that engine oil is to be changed once every 2 years. What does that tell us? It's simple, the engine work effortlessly and not overworked like the I-4 counterparts that engine oil were instructed to be changed twice yearly. At higher vehicle speed, the rpm is lower compared to NA I-4 that becomes harsh, even at small 120 km/h.

Let me use another one for example. Peugeot instructed that their EW engines in 406 (NA I-4s) timing belt are to be changed once every 60k km or 4 years, while for their ES engines in 406 (V6) the timing belt is to be replaced every 120k km or every 6 years. Now, when 407 succeeded 406, they increased the V6 timing belt renewal to 180k km or every 9 years, while the I-4s remain the 60k km or every 4 years. What does it mean? These engines use the same quality of belt and brands. Difference is that one is longer than the other.

The point is, the stress on V6 engine is less than that on the I-4 engines, which was why the change interval is higher on V6. But they probably realized that even the 120,000 km change interval for V6 was too short, so they increased it to 180,000 km. Like I said, the same quality and brand of belts for both engines, yet one last longer in one of the engines. Because of what? Stress!

An I-4 can last as long as the owner wants it to, likewise the I-6, V6, V8 or V12. But usage shouldn't be the same. The durability depends on the usability. The higher the rpm all the time, the more stress on the engine. Doing 180km on NA I-4 all the time will stress the engine out, because of engine speed that will maintain that vehicle speed with such engine. But on bigger engines or one with more cylinders, it will attain that vehicle speed at low engine speed, meaning, less stress.

Ikenna

expert101:
TDI have petrol engine. Golf 4 is a sweet car to drive but very problematic and unreliable. Each time I travel on Benin -Ore way, I see many of them that have broken done on highway.

"TDI have petrol engine".

Sorry, you really know nothing about the Golf IV you claimed you have Ph.D. on.

I guess because it has no Toyota badge is why its problematic and unreliable for you, right?

The same Nigerians would tell you to run away from Peugeot cars, that they are very unreliable and problematic. Well, they can ask me how unreliable and problematic my 2 V6 lions have been for years of ownership so far. Mind virus at work.

Ikenna

Peacefullife:
Bros Ik,
Thanks for the insights. Let me provide more details about some of the issues addressed.
On the service battery, you are right. The battery attends to all the power needs of the car except the engine. Because of it, remote key does not function, boot doesn't open and most other things requiring power dont work except the engine is running and the whole system is dependent on the engine battery. Mind you, I have not done anything on the alternator talkless of messing it up, other than once replacing a 50amp fuse which a mech said is responsible for the back battery. Personally, I think maybe the wire going to the service battery is the culprit. But since the car moves, I keep managing it like that. So solutions are welcomed. It is original LHD and not converted.
Thank God you informed me that the auto glass are prone to issues, but mime is only problematic if there is no service battery or it is down. It developed the permanent fault after several service batteries were changed. The panel guy said the component that got bad in the car is welded to the door itself, hence only replacement of the door itself can solve the problem.

I don't know the type of tranny in the car and unfortunately I am not in my town to provide the VIN now, but it is a V6 engine, with tranny having snow and sports mode. The mech guy said he can do the tranny change but I was too scared to let him try it lest other issues develop. Is there a 6 speed manual tranny for the car?

I currently use a Volvo which is also luxurious and European, but the 607 has made an earlier statement by a colleague about the car (he called it fortune drainer) come true.

Any advice or effort to bring this car back to win my confidence will be welcomed, sir.

In summary, you still proved what I have said earlier. Guess work which usually leads to abuse.

All you have explained is, "He said that, I think that,etc". All those while, have you ever plugged in PP2000 to find out what is wrong with the service battery and the front electric window lifter? The more you carryout guess work on that lion, the more problem you introduce in that system. Whatever that is wrong, originally, is stored in the ECUs, waiting for you to access and see. Who knows what other connection or bypass your electrician has done on the lion to make the faults go away. It's a luxury vehicle and need to be handled as such. Get a proper diagnostic tool (PP2000) to truly find out what is wrong, and not what your mechanic /electrician thought were the culprits.

Since the engine is V6, the auto transmission would be 4HP20 and not AL4. You can easily convert it to manual. The ES9J4S (V6) engine in that bay can be metted to a BVM5 (5-speed manual transmission) specifically designed for that engine. 6-speed manual is for EW12 engines. The manual gearbox for that engine cost more than I-4 engine manual tranny. The V6 manual tranny cost about 70-80k, though you can get it cheaper, depending on where you stay. Then you will need the gearbox accessories (linkages, cables, etc), manual pedals and clutch components.

The fuse your electrician probably replaced is called "Maxi fuse". Removing the Maxi fuse means disconnecting the service battery. Like Peugeot instructed, you need to remove the Maxi fuse first before disconnecting the service battery terminals.

Scan that lion with a proper tool.

Ikenna

Peacefullife:
Ikenna,
I understand your passion for Peugeots, but on 607, I beg to disagree.

I got a 2002 model in 2009 and believe me, it was the worst buy of the seven or eight cars I have bought in my life in terms of reliability, although the most luxurious.

From radiator water and atf mixing together (3 transmissions changed already and counting) to front battery charging and rear battery not charging. Because rear battery not charging, driver side power window not working, and was told I have to change the whole door. Stories are just endless.

Please, it is possible to change the transmission to manual and save myself some of the stress? I personally haven't driven the car for like two years while the old man that uses it atimes have abandoned it for like six months, since the last transmission change.

I could see some form of abuse on the poor lion, from what you said above.

Let me ask you, what do you think that caused cooling system fluid to mix with Transmission ATF in radiator? For a start, you said water? Is that what Peugeot asked you to use in that system? What usually leads to radiator blockage and leakage? If you know that, what then led to the oil and water mixture in the radiator? This same issue happens on most peoples vehicles with auto transmissions, irrespective of vehicle brand. What causes it?

The 2nd battery mounted in the boot is called Service battery, which was only fitted on some, not all. Service battery powers most of the gadgets and ECUs, while the main battery in the engine bay handles starter and some other components. For you to complain the service battery no longer charges raise serious questions on the state of the wirings in that car. If I may ask, is that Lion factory LHD or converted RHD-LHD? Because, its the same Alternator bolted to the engine which auxiliary belt drives, is the same Alternator that charges Main battery in engine bay and Service battery in the boot. So if the Service battery refuses to charge, who tampered with the connection that takes power from Alternator to that battery?


Are you saying because the service battery no longer charges, the drivers door will need to be changed for the glass/window regulator to function? What does a failed (likely abused) service battery charging connection got to do with non functional window regulator? Even if that battery powers that windows regulator, was that why the regulator failed? And to crown it all, will replacing the entire door the solution to a failed window regulator/lifter? What kind of electricians do you give that poor lion to troubleshoot?

Notwithstanding, 607 is known for window lifter issues. But some models of 607 doors have 406 system. So, all you need (if thats what yours have) is to Buy 406 one, which is cheaper. But for those that use AC often, you have no Business with that chamber.


I wouldn't know if the auto transmission in that Lion is AL4 or 4HP20, since you didn't state the engine. But manual conversion of any Lion is the simplest job to do for any good mechanic. It's simply a drop-in and bolt-on job. Peugeot makes provision for anyone that wants to carryout such modification or conversion in their auto trannies. I wonder why your mechanic couldn't figure it out till now. A manual gearbox for 4-cylinder 607 cost as low as 6-10k.

What you complained of (except the window issue) is not different from what people have experienced in their 406s when the wrong hands touched them or when RHD-LHD conversions were badly done.

Like I said earlier, I have studied both 406 and 607 systems, anyone that enjoys 406 as trouble-free car will find the same in 607. But anyone that finds 607 as no go-area, will not find ownership of 406 (D9) a pleasant experience.

Ikenna

Yesterday, Kaduna Lion owners meet and had a good day (get-together).

Today, we the Abuja Lion owners also had end of year get-together and enjoyed ourselves as usual.

Lions Den is the best place to be!

Ikenna

fishleg123:
thank God I didn't listened to them when they told me that Peugeot is a bad car. that 406 phase 11 is the best car on Nigeria road. it is very rugged, beautiful, high fuel economy, elegant, and when it come to speed and balance, it is there. funny enough, I got it Nigerian used and for almost 3 years now I they have not touched d wiring system. I've never spent up to 10k.at once. to repair anything. I drive it to my site every time and as a farmer I use it to carry all sort of things on bad roads always. in fact it is the best car.

That's wondeful. Keep on roaring!

Ikenna

bravolad:
You are absolutely wrong. FRSC does not issue number plates, they are issued by the licensing office of the VIO. Get your information right. I just changed one of my cars from private to commercial, so I know what I am talking about. Most people just sit at home & order for the registration of their cars and often times, driving license through FRSC Officers they meet on the road. This is why you have a lot of fake number plates & driving licenses.

Please, for those who do not know, FRSC does not issue vehicle license, number plate or driving license. They are only in charge of driving license production.

FRSC issues Drivers Licence. My current Drivers Licence was issued by FRSC at FRSC. In fact, I did the data capture at FRSC headquarters at Zone 7, issued and collected at FRSC Utako. I paid into FRSC bank account. I applied for the licence renewal on FRSC website. Only thing VIO did was to examine if I knew how to drive. Every other thing was done at FRSC office, here in Abuja.

FRSC not only produce the number plate, they allocate number plates too. Your personal and vehicle data is stored in FRSC database against the number plate. You can confirm the authenticity of number plate online on FRSC database/website, not VIO. VIO doesn't exist in all states of the federation. Even in states, you renew your drivers licence at FRSC not licencing office, unless you want to be issued fake licence.


Ikenna

Don't sell with the new number plate. It has become yours permanently. If the new owner or the vehicle is used in something illegal and the number is captured, its you that will be traced and apprehended. Your data is already saved in FRSC database for life against that number plate. You can re-register it on another vehicle of yours in your name, not on vehicle particulars not bearing your name.

Ikenna

Bossforeva:
Phase 1 2.2L will be O.k just hope to get it after i must have concluded my biz stuff. I think i'll need it's fuel economy, as it will be a regular ride.

Thanks a lot Ikenna.

Ok.

I would suggest you get a Diagbox (PP2000) as you are buying the 607. Because what kills these Lions is electrical abuse. But with PP2000, it will point at what is wrong, anytime something goes wrong, rather than open your bonnet for mehanics and electricians to introduce nightmares in your life. Problem with Nigerians is when they switch from Japs to Lions, they still use Lions with Japs owners mentality, forgetting that Peugeot is a European car. You dont mess with Euro cars electrics. With the PP2000, it will tell show the culprit making a lion to malfunction. All you need to know is log in with the VIN in Peugeot database and it will show you exactly the location of the culprit in the car and what it looks like. Even if you are scared to touch spanners, you can take it to a mechanic and ask him "Remove this and Put this".

The Diagbox cost 25k. Anytime you are ready for it, you can contact me.

Ikenna