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Car TalkRe: Funny Things Non-Car Enthusiasts Say by Ikenna351(op):
Trac: @ Ikenna


I will never state anything that I cannot defend or conclusively explain.

How does one become a theoretical engineer? Break it down, for I need to learn. I guess you are the practical one. Do you know the definition of an engineer? To save you an explanation, there is a big difference between a person that has mechanical aptitude and is analytical as oppose to the one that googled all he knows. Maybe you haven't figured it out, I am very much into high performance racing than you can quantify. I do not speak "kitchen-sink" rhetoric. It is not my philosophy to delve into something I do not understand and begin executing functions. There is more to automotive than you think or might ever come across (and if you do, you will not understand it). This is because the engineering is an applied form of the modern and complex solution-tools are used with little room for error. Believe me, there is nothing theoretical about being an engineer. There can be no manifestation of anything without a fundamental principal behind it. This way, you can control your product.

You don't know what I drive and how fast they are. You only know one of the cars I know well but the experience of that was gotten many years ago. I am not proud like you neither do I oppress with what I have nor display to the world what I have. This is in my personal life; plus I teach and impart knowledge and skill to others in manners they'll understand without sacrificing the core.

I will mildly explain but will not base anything on opinions. Put google away because it has nothing to do with what is in discussion. Logic and analytics is where reasoning will emanate from.

All you have written is mainstream perception with no science. All you buttress is linear acceleration and it is poorly put together. In automotive, you have commercial principles and you have the engineering principles (subsidiary). Your view of the modern vehicle is based upon journalism and people-repetition.

The car you have stated in reference is in two categories:
1. It is NOT fast.
2. It offers absolutely NO performance.

I will state it again; just in case you missed it. It is not fast neither does it offer any kind of performance. Not fast - no performance! It is also NOT a high performance car and was not intended to. It is a slow car and in my standards, a very slow one. Looking at the vehicle's recipe, it is unimpressive to me. One doesn't need to work at Peugeot to know what the engineers had in mind when you have a trained mind. I still wonder how you drew more than once that I am a theorist in performance when you are yet to have a moderately quick car.

Your problem relies upon the fact that you don't know the definition of performance neither do you understand the concepts of performance.

It is not my intention to teach you or make explanations in details but I will faintly touch on what I want to make emphases on. Nothing will do if it does not sink. I will not openly display knowledge nor explicitly state concepts here.

When performance is spoken about, analytical data will portray instantaneous vector velocities. This singular statement has made everything you wrote as illogical.

I will break it [down] for you.

What is meant? In layman terms, it is the isolated tangent velocities through twisty corners (including the mild corners) and velocities in the straights; then the combination is averaged. You need not worry if you didn't get this or my point in principle wasn't passed across. I will use another approach to convey that.

A good circuit will test for various performance potentials within a vehicle. This is with respect to the "three degrees of freedom." It must test for oversteer, understeer, tyre loadings on inside and outside, camber/caster setup, brake balance, provoked understeer and provoked oversteer, sudden change of state with respect to stability (transient), flat out linear acceleration and a few others that need not to be mentioned (for this thread purpose). Circuits are not just put mapped out (at least the reputable ones). It is precisely calculated to induce and/or provoke these motion-state characteristics. It is then you know what a car is made of and what performance it renders; not how quick if feels on the highway.

In all the states mentioned previously, the Peugeot referenced has nothing on the newer model save for linear acceleration. That will not help you on well "articulated" circuit configuration. In terms of braking and balancing, turn-ins, aerodynamics and transient functions, my conclusions are inconclusive. Much of your power cannot be used in the bends while the other will brake a lot later than yours and accelerate a lot sooner than yours. This is not rocket-science to a petrol-head.

In layman's terms, road-holding in the newer Peugeots outperforms yours, the "motion-elastic" properties and aerodynamics is generations ahead of yours. Your technology is primitive compared to what you guarantee yours against. A journalist tested a 4-cylinder @ 1.9L Evo against a 6.5L V12 Lamborghini. The Lamborghini was at an advantage because it was driven by a world class professional race driver and the Mitsubishi was driven by the journalist that can't really drive. The Lamborghini lost and did not finish. There are many other examples. Straight speeds is not performance. It was never so. That is American recreational culture based on the doo-wop era and Motown. That mentality I believe, is dead.

So, as previously stated, my hypothesis still stands. Until it is tested by a skilled and consistent professional driver on a close-circuit, conclusions cannot be drawn. My hypothesis is more pronounced since you are the one working on the vehicle. In other words, it is not in its optimum state. -- and I mean that sincerely. An acclaimed circuit with little straights and all manner of "provoking" corners for various tests of attributes will make the answer official (not just on NL but everywhere). A google review is not a credible statement. Anybody can make a review and define conclusions.

Stating your car is more efficient mechanically than a new generation concept is not something worth arguing about. You'll have a hard time convincing anyone about that because Peugeot did not make cutting edge technology at the era. It is clear you did not understand my point on this.


It's all good. I won't reply to this because it will go from criticism to something else; for I am not one given to arguments.
Its so unfortunate that you are so biased that it has clouded your judgment.

Please, can you show where i claimed that I own the most fastest car on Earth? Can you show me where I claimed that my old 505 V6 is faster than any newer car one could think of?

You said I oppress people here and show off my car. So if I want to show off, is it an old 1987 car that I would show off with? But for crying out loud, is this not a car discussion section? If I don't talk about about my car, whose car should I talk about? Yours? So I cannot refer to my car and use it as an example to address issues? So people with newer cars should talk about theirs, but those of us with older cars should hide our heads in shame and not mention them, because we are disturbing the rich like you, isn't it? Is this not the same thing nony30 you are defending did in Peugeot thread and carried it over in this thread, that you are suggesting here?

Someone, in Peugeot thread, asked for help on an issue with his Peugeot 504. While in the discussion on 504, nony30 questioned why should 504 be mentioned there. Why should the Peugeot house be disturbed with 504 talk, when we all should be talking about 407 or the newer ones. Of course, he succeeded because the innocent 504 guy never came back to the thread. After all, the poor are not welcomed there! I attacked him and told him how unfair he was to the house and that he had no right to determine which products of Peugeot to be discussed in that thread, since its a Peugeot Thread, not 406 or 407 thread. And that I created the thread and didn't discriminate any Peugeot car users from contributing, joining the house or asking questions on issues with their cars. Of course, he carried it over here to tell the every other person that he was fighting discussion on older cars and I was against him for that. Of course, the rest of the story is on the 1st page of this thread.

Now @ Trac, if you were not biased, you should have noted who started 406 vs 505 V6 on this thread. I listed the power specs figures of the two cars, just to make him not argue blindly. But of course, you chose not to see his post where he stated "Meet me on the highway with one of those museum cars and see the definition of horsepower", which necessitated my reply with those figures. But to you, I was oppressing and showing off.

You are simply unbelievable. I told you I used a 406 with bigger engine than his more than a week, but it was too underpowered for my liking. Yet you are here telling me "I got no clue what I was comparing". So you are telling me my observation while using the car was wrong? I will ask again, have you driven both cars to tell which of them is quicker? Am lack of words here.

Spare me your scientific theories. You are preaching to the wrong person.

I never even for once wanted to talk down on 406, because I have friends here that own them, especially the EW10 & XU10. No one would like anyone to tell him " Your car is very underpowered". But until I drive an I4 406 that has more power to EW10, the XU7 is not even close to power the 505 V6 possesses. Yes, I believe the EW12 406 may be quicker than the 505 V6 (though haven't driven one yet), but not the XU7 for Christ sake. I have never argued that all I4s are underpowered. But we need to be specific sometimes, not comparing turbo I4 with N/A engines.

Yes, you said my car is a Tortoise. Well, I must not own the quickest or fastest car before I seize to exist. In all my post here in Nairaland where my 505 was mentioned so far, I was specifically emphasizing why I love my 505 V6: The Handling. Nothing more. How the car behaves at whatever speed am doing with it is what made me love the car, not how fast it can be. The car gives me every reason to be thanking God each time I look at it. Am contented with what I have and will never stop mentioning it, since this is car discussion section. If its giving you sleepless night each time I mention the car, then you better go and get sleeping pills, because you are going to be seeing more of it.

Ikenna.
Car TalkRe: Comments/complaints/suggestions by Ikenna351(op): 11:37am On Mar 25, 2013
Rocktation: Hi Ike. Can't reach you via pm. You still haven't granted what I asked, in the section for mods. It's not fair oo.sad Please do. Da'alu.
Hi babe,

There are things going on in that section am no longer comfortable with. I will give your request a thought. But dont hold it against me if i dont grant it. My issue is not with you, though.

Ikenna.
Car TalkRe: How To Remove Check Engine Light Originating From Bad/absent Catalytic Converter by Ikenna351(m):
cretin: too bad u choose to see my comment in that light, my intention wasnt to insult, but to educate, by mod i meant modification, not moderator.
all the same i think you shud keep ur mod to urself and stop broadcasting it 4 people to copy on a public forum.
the process of saving/preserviong the planet is a collective effort, every little effort counts...so if everybody in lagos/nigeria is doing the wrong thing. ..does that justify the wrong doing...and make it righthuh??...would u let ur mechanic remove ur thermostat or use 20w 50 oil grade cos thats what everybody is using?
I apologies for misunderstanding your post. Its just that i dont want people to see my posts in car talk as "moderator post", but as a member's post. I joined Nairaland because of Autos section. At a point a point, i left because of what the section was turning into. I came back to Nairaland when car talk was created and was shortly made a moderator after. Am still in Nairaland not because am a moderator in this section, but because of existence car talk section. The moment car talk stop to exist, i will leave Nairaland, because i belong to other dedicated car forums where am also active. Thats why am doing everything i can to make sure car talk doesn't turn into another Autos section. I could ignore other violation of forum rules in car talk, but not advert. So, am not trying to tell the public that "Ikenna351 is the car talk mod", but trying to say i want my comments here to count as a members post, not a mod one. Anyway, sorry for what i said earlier in the former post.

Am one of those that hate this thing "Everybody does it". If you check my posts, you will see where i have kicked against bandwagon propaganda. I only answered a poster a question he threw at me. And my reply to the poster was "What i would do", not what everyone should do. But i can now see i should have kept the opinion to myself or not to have answered that question. I have learnt a lesson here. Thanks for making that known to me.

If one really want to deal with this caty issue, we should first address the cause of frequent failure of caty and o2 in Nigeria. And the cause is "bad fuel". If we start using bad fuel in Nigeria, then our o2 would last longer, and our caty wont have to fail often when our o2 hasn't failed.

Running cars without caty is a minor issue compared to pollution from our generators. Not every Nigerian own cars, but almost 98% of Nigerians own and run their generators everyday. What about the listers or industrial diesel generators in our various offices that emits terrible black smoke? Every night, Nigerians run their generators that have no caty. At least, every cars have 2 or 3 exhaust pots/mufflers that do little filtering, but the generators have only one, i think.

Well, if you can be dashing me some cash to be replacing such expensive component, caty, that fails every now and then in Nigeria, i wouldn't mind o! grin

Ikenna
Car TalkRe: How To Remove Check Engine Light Originating From Bad/absent Catalytic Converter by Ikenna351(m): 8:49pm On Mar 24, 2013
Please, note that i never advised or suggested to anyone to remove or modified his caty. I only stated what i have done on mine and what i would do if i get another tomorrow, if i have the time and resources. However you want to run your car is no business of mine.

Ikenna.
Car TalkRe: How To Remove Check Engine Light Originating From Bad/absent Catalytic Converter by Ikenna351(m): 8:15pm On Mar 24, 2013
For those interested in replacing their failed catalytic converters, brand new catalytic converter cost between $400 - $1,600, depending on the type on your exhaust system. So, if your car has more than one catalytic converter and they all fail, you now know how must it will cost you to replace them.

Ikenna.
Car TalkRe: Peugeot: Cars With Attitude! by Ikenna351(op): 8:00pm On Mar 24, 2013
Shadddy: Any Idea hw much a 607 lioness can go for? I am seriously in need of it.
In France, 607 manual trans phase II with EW12 is expensive. It cost €7,000+. The V6 cost less (€3,000+).

Well, if you are crazy about the 607, becareful in your hunt for the car. If you are in Abuja, you can find a good one in town. But becareful they dont give you RHD convert. Remember, phase II manual trans, no matter the engine you want to settle for.

Ikenna
Car TalkRe: Peugeot: Cars With Attitude! by Ikenna351(op): 4:05pm On Mar 24, 2013
Shadddy: Any Idea hw much a 607 lioness can go for? I am seriously in need of it.
From what i gathered from a friend that lives in France, he has a friend in France that presently own 607 with EW12 engine. This year makes it the 5th year the car has been with him and has never let him down. All he does is the regular servicing: change of engine oil and filter, spark plugs replacements, change of brake pads, etc. My friend is now telling me that he is hunting for one for himself, after seeing how reliable and durable a 607 with EW12 engine can be.

If you are really interested in 607, go for the phase II (2004 - 2010 model). The phase I 607, 1999-2003, had VAN-BUS electrical system, which were reported had some issues with the owners of those early models of 607. The phase II introduced 607 was introduced with a CAN-BUS electrical system, a better system, which resolved some of the issues with the earlier models.

And never you make the mistake of buying a 607 with auto transmission. If that AL4 transmission fail on you, the cost of replacing it can get you a small usable car. Better go for the flawless manual tranny. But if it must be auto tranny car that you want, then forget about the 607 and go for another brand with reliable auto transmission, at least, one that wont cost an arm to replace when it fails.

I dont know how a clean tokunbo 607 will cost, since am not a car dealer. But I believe it shouldnt cost more than 1.5m. It may even cost less than that. Will ask a friend who is a dealer and get back to you.

One more thing, stay away from RHD - LHD converted 607. Dont say you werent told.

Ikenna.
Car TalkRe: Peugeot: Cars With Attitude! by Ikenna351(op): 3:28pm On Mar 24, 2013
Called a Peugeot tokunbo parts seller few days ago, to make some enquiries for someone on auto to manual trans conversion of 406. And these are what i gathered:

1. AL4 auto transmission (Tokunbo) cost 250k, especially the D9 V6 406 auto tranny (due to scarcity). Difficult to find one that still work.

2. 406 petrol I4 manual tranny cost 20k (but one can get it at 15k, depending on ones bargaining power).

3. 406 V6 D9 manual tranny cost 80k (due to 406 V6 scarcity in Nigeria; doesn't sell in Nigeria).

4. Conversion of I4 auto tranny to manual tranny of 406, will cost between 75-100k (gearbox, clutch components, gear selectors, labour, etc).


Ikenna.
Car TalkRe: Price Of A New Peugeout 607 by Ikenna351(m): 3:14pm On Mar 24, 2013
Shadddy: Wao!! Even tho insulting, I guess I've found the answer from you. Will do as u advised. Thanks.
Next time, direct youy questions or issues on Peugeot here, below:

https://www.nairaland.com/1003701/peugeot-thread-peugeot-community


Ikenna.
Car TalkRe: How To Remove Check Engine Light Originating From Bad/absent Catalytic Converter by Ikenna351(m):
cretin: as THE PRESIDENT of FRIENDS OF THE EARTH, NIGERIA BRANCH...I SAY THIS UR MOD IS increasing the emission/pollution level of ur car...pls stop it..the catalytic converter was placed in the car to help cut down on exhaust gas/emissions.........removing is contributing to green house gases n pollution...imagine what wud happen if 30% of all car owners in lagos copied this mod?
You have your keyboard or phone to type whatever you want, while i have mine to do the same.

All those decades in Nigeria when our fathers were buying brand new cars with carburettors (no catalytic converters) and running them, shebi it wiped out Nigerian population? Did you even bother to find out when EFI cars with catalytic converters started entering Nigerian shores? So all those decades, Lagosians were not driving cars, which none of them had catalytic converter? Guy, i dont know the part of the world you stay, but i think like a Nigerian.

Why dont you go to that Lagos and count how many cars that dont emit smoke from their exhaust? Every 10 cars that pass, 6 of them, if not more, emit various colours of smoke: blue, black, white, etc. Abi those ones no be pollution? Even with 97% of cars in Lagos with catalytic converter, 70% of them pollute the environment. When 80% of cars on Nigerian roads run very thirsty, where do you think those unburnt fuel goes to? Inside the car or out of the car via the exhuast? You think catalytic converter will filter excessive fueling smoke from going out via the exhaust pipe?

By the way, i found your above post very offensive and direct insult to me. I posted on this thread as Ikenna351, as a Nairaland member, not as a moderator. So, why should you bring in the mod thing here? Next time, if you want to attack my post on a car related issue, address me as Ikenna351 or Ikenna.

Ikenna.
Car TalkRe: ♍Ɣ Baby Boy AC Does Not Get Cold On Time. Solution Pls by Ikenna351(m): 2:17pm On Mar 23, 2013
vic4me: Especially in d afternoons because of d hot sun, and i just filled it with 3cans of gas, or shuld i increase d gas?. Wat might be d problem and solution pls cos dis sun is killable. ℓ☺ℓ
Lol! Is like you stay in Abuja?

Ikenna.
Car TalkRe: How To Remove Check Engine Light Originating From Bad/absent Catalytic Converter by Ikenna351(m): 2:13pm On Mar 23, 2013
9icetoo: Ikenna thanks. Knew i could always count on you. I will be doing the modification today. loving this forum. grin
I have already modified mine since 2011, without wasting time, and have been enjoying it since then. The car now develops impressive power on highspeed and still retain the factory mpg,sometimes better than the factory, depending on how heavy footed i want to be. The love of V6!

As soon as my second V6 comes in, which is about to happen soon, it will be on my "Next to do list". It will be done as soon as the time and money are there. The Will is not the problem.

Please, do update us after the modification.

Ikenna.
Car TalkRe: Peugeot: Cars With Attitude! by Ikenna351(op):
Peugeot VIN Lookup


http://www.bba-reman.com/forums/Topic122354.aspx

http://www.autocalculator.org/VIN/Peugeot-VIN-Decoder.aspx


*Note that Peugeot VIN doesnt contain the model year.

Ikenna.
Car TalkRe: Price Of A New Peugeout 607 by Ikenna351(m): 11:04am On Mar 23, 2013
Shadddy: Guys please how much is the price for a new peugeot 607 in the Market?
New Peugeot 607 huh

Ikenna.
Car TalkRe: 4-cylinder Engine Vs 6-cylinder Engine by Ikenna351(m): 11:01am On Mar 23, 2013
Ogojohn: When you see anything v 6. Run my brother as far as your leg can carry you.To be fore warned is to be fore armed. Not only does it strip you of your hard earned money because of ignorant mechanics. It equally teaches you a lessen at the fuel pump.
Speaking from experience or what your mechanic told you?

Ikenna.
Car TalkRe: Oil Shortage by Ikenna351(m): 6:09am On Mar 23, 2013
Altruist: pls i nid advice,my mistibuchi delica bus started xperiencn oil shortage which was cause by leakage due 2 bad fuel pump as told by d mechanic,after changn d fuel pump,d shortage still continues nd now bring out a kind of blue smoke 4rm d xhaust.wat can i do?
What specie of clown is that your mechanic is? What concerns oil shortage with fuel pump? Wetin person no go hear for Nairaland?

See, if your vehicle has started emitting blue smoke, sorry, you either rebuild that engine or replace it. And you need to address what could have caused the blue smoke before rebuilding or replacing the engine.

Ikenna.
Car TalkRe: How To Remove Check Engine Light Originating From Bad/absent Catalytic Converter by Ikenna351(m):
9icetoo: has your lil modification affected your fuel economy or performancein any way? Siena, Ikenna, yungboss, what is your opinion on this? is it okay?
Would do the same modifications without a blink.

Ikenna
Car TalkRe: Merits Of Repairing My Crankshaft Against Buying A New Engine by Ikenna351(m):
cretin: ru sure the oil 10w 40 is mineral and not synthetic?..pls am really interested in knowing the name/brand of this oil......cos its usually synthetic oils that have that pour range

pls give us the name..am interested in buying such oil..as the 20w 50 oil is not the recommended oil for my car, the 10w 40 is nearer...but i only find synthetics in the 10w 40 range
Give you the brand name I know? TOTAL.

If you are in Abuja, you can come to my place and i will show you the owners manual of my 1987 Peugeot 505 V6. I will also show you the owners manual of my dad's 1977 Peugeot 504 GL (foreign assembly). I also have the owners manual of 1983 Peugeot 505 SR (PAN). The 3 manuals instructed that 10w 40 be used. If they meant 10w 40 synthetic based, it would have been stated.

To make it clearer for you, we have 10w 40 mineral oil & 10w 40 semi synthetic.

Get more clarification below:

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/synthetic-oil-vs-regular-oil.html


Ikenna
Car TalkRe: Merits Of Repairing My Crankshaft Against Buying A New Engine by Ikenna351(m): 4:02pm On Mar 22, 2013
cretin: not all toyotas are prone to sludge.
causes of sludge are
1. not changing ur oil when due.........if u r using normal oil ie 20w 50...visco 2000, mobil xhp, etc, its recommened u change it every 1500 to 2000 miles or 30 to 45 days wchever comes first...mileage or days.dino oil as its normally called degenaratyes over time...so even if the car was driven less than 50miles and was parked for 1 month after being driven...the oil is halfway bad already...its recommened u change it soon, this is cos the make up of the oil is affected by heat,

2. cars that are driven less than 40miles per day, day in day out, are also prone to sludge as since dino oil contains traces of water...when its driven for short distances, the the engine doesnt heat up enough to evaporate the water, thus it ends up remaining in the system.....imagine pouring small amt of water into red oil or gnut oil...that will give u an idea of the state of the oil in ur car..if u do only short distances....

synthtic oil 0w 40, 10w 30 etc..such as mobil 1 , total 7000 etc...are more expensive but are better in not forming sludge in the engine...the r rated for 5000 to 7000 miles and 4 to 6months duration...thus they are better, if u r the type that dont like changing ur oil regularly
I disagree.

Toyota engines maynot be the only engines prone to sludge, but i dont agree with you that Mineral oils, such as 20w 50, should be changed every 45 days or 2000 miles.

My car oil grade is 10w 40 Mineral oil. The owners manuals states "change every 7,500 km (5,000 miles) or at least twice yearly". How can you now say Mineral oils should be changed every 45 days or 2,000 miles?

In Peugeot 406 petrol engines repair manual, it states " change synthetic engine oil every 10,000 km (6,000 miles) or every 6 months".

Unless you are trying to tell us that Toyota engines are too fragile to stand that long use of both mineral and synthetic oils?

Ikenna.
AutosRe: Peugeot 406 V6 Manual (Phase II) Needed in Abuja by Ikenna351(op): 12:41pm On Mar 22, 2013
Still waiting.

Ikenna.
Car TalkRe: Auto Experts Please Answer This Question. by Ikenna351(m): 9:25am On Mar 22, 2013
Dereformer: Thanks Ikenna. But which coolant is the best? or should I use any? I presently use water but intended to use coolant when next i go for oil change.
Don't wait till the next oil change to start using coolant. The more you use that water, the more harm it does to your engine.

I dont know which colour of coolant that will be good for your Vento (I dont know much about VW). But I use TOTAL coolant for my Peugeot, which is good for Aluminiun Cylinder head too. The colour is green, though.

Ikenna.
Car TalkRe: Auto Experts Please Answer This Question. by Ikenna351(m): 7:29pm On Mar 21, 2013
Dereformer: Can water serve the purpose of a coolant. Just bought VW vento clx 1997 model(Toks). I want to be sure what i am doing.
Temporary, Yes. Permanently, No.

Ikenna.
Car TalkRe: Peugeot: Cars With Attitude! by Ikenna351(op): 7:14pm On Mar 21, 2013
[quote author=au.hanson]Please what do you mean by 'universal cone' filter? Are you talking about the 'drier' or something else ? Are you talking about the air filter in the PVC as in the case of Benz? How does it affect power and mpg? I am interested in everything that affect power and MPG[/quote]It serves as the airfilter. You simply change the conventional airfilter element and replace with the cone filter.

http://www.knfilters.com/universal/universal.htm


Please note that such filters are designed or built for race, because of the added power and noise it produces when in action. It maybe illegal in some countries for non race cars to install it.

Note that once you install it, your engine sound will change and sound aggresively when under heavy acceleration. They are designed for speed and the sounds are there to give you the feel of the speed you are doing.

Ikenna
Car TalkRe: Honda Bulldog 97 Model Excessive Fuel Consumption by Ikenna351(m): 12:35am On Mar 21, 2013
All these analysis above have not and will not address the issue.

@ Op,
Since you cannot troubleshoot your car manually, what stopping you from scanning the car and save yourself the trouble of guess work? Is this not a '97 model that we are talking about here? Because last time i checked, '96 EFI cars are OBD II compliant. Unless you want to tell it wasnt installed in American spec Honda Accords of that year?

Ikenna.
Car TalkRe: Reliability Of C180 and W202's IN GENERAL by Ikenna351(m): 7:24pm On Mar 20, 2013
smartchoice: Ik: am interested in changing my MB compressor to Peugeot but my system uses R134 freon gas, what would you suggest I do knowing that R134 can destroys seals on an R12 systems which the Sanden compressor carries? NOTE THIS ALSO AU HANSON
Note that original 134 gas cost more N500 a can. A can of original 134 cost 2k. And some newer cars AC systems cant stand the cheap/fake 134 gas. A neighbor of mine that drives Nissan Xterra lost his AC compressor last week after his AC guy recharged the SUV with the 134 of N500 a can. He drove in this evening and said he had to change both the compressor, condenser and drier today. He said he bought 2 cans of original 134 at 4k. So if your c-class is newer or if your AC system is not as rugged as mine, you better go buy the original one o! cheesy

As for if 134 gas will work in 504 compressor, I think it should/can. Cant guarantee you, though. I had recharged with 134a gas twice with the old compressor. But it leaked out within days. R12 gas is thicker/heavier, while 134 is lighter/thinner. So to use 134 in my AC system, I would need to convert it to 134, by changing all the pressure hoses and seals from R12 to 134 components. So I don't think the 504/505 compressor will reject the 134 gas, since the AC system of your c-class is 134. In my case, I knew the 134 gas would dry off or leak out since the entire system is R12. Aside that, I didn't want to risk it or carryout such experiment on the brand new compressor. 25k is not N25. grin

Ikenna
Car TalkRe: Reliability Of C180 and W202's IN GENERAL by Ikenna351(m): 3:49pm On Mar 20, 2013
[quote author=au.hanson]connected it from there with my installed brand new Peugeot 504 compressor(504 compressor is known for their durability and ruggedness, that's why most vulcanisers here uses it for their business. Ikenna, your comment is welcome here)[/quote]Peugeot 504 & 505 use the same AC compressor. The brand name of the compressor is Sanden, originally made in Japan.

My 505 AC compressor failed late last year, shortly after the car AC system was flushed with an acid or whatever the clown called it. I went to Gudu market to purchase a used one and was told new one was available in abundance as well. I was shocked to hear that 504/505 Ac compressor was still available in new in Nigeria. They told me because they are been used to replace the "unreliable" Benz AC compressors. That all needed to be done is to swap in Benz compressor pulley on the Peugeot compressor and it's good to go. Even when I entered the first shop to price the new Peugeot compressor, the seller asked me which class & model year of Benz do I want to use the compressor for, until I told him I needed it for my 505. The seller said he couldn't believe there could still be 505 using AC, and that only Benz owners purchase the Peugeot compressors from them. He claimed that the demand has been on the high side, which is why the compressor is still available in new ones. Anyway, I bought the brand new one 25k from Apo. I posted the picture of the compressor in Peugeot thread. Find it below:

https://www.nairaland.com/1003701/peugeot-thread-peugeot-community/8


The failed one the car came with is Sanden, model SD-708. But new one I found in the market was the same Sanden, but model SD-508. Well, they stamped it made in Japan, just like the factory failed one. But you and I know that the new one didn't smell Japan shores, but China.

On the new compressor, it reads "Refrigerant: Use R12". And I recharged the system with R12 gas, which cost N500 a can (my 505 takes 4 cans = 2k). Some would wonder or argue why recharge with R12, when there is 134 which cost the same amount with R12 (N500 a can). But I wasn't ready to risk damaging the newly purchased compressor, when the instruction reads "use R12", because I didn't get that 25k from Mango tree. I know R12 system can be converted to 134a system. But am not interested. When I get a car with 134a system, I will treat it with 134a gas.

Ikenna.
AutosRe: Scan Your Car At Very Cheap Price In Abuja by Ikenna351(op): 4:08pm On Mar 19, 2013
[quote author=3d_hunter]what is your working hours like?
my interest is more on evening and weekends.[/quote]Usually free by 5pm on weekdays and also free on weekends. But i prefer weekends.

Ikenna.
AutosRe: Very Clean Registered 2001 Peugeot 406 For Sale In Lagos. Call 08098837260 by Ikenna351(m):
callvit2: Car condition - Very clean. Not used upto a year
Engine capacity - V6
Transmission - .Manual
Seat - leather
Air condition - yes
Player - 6 loader CD player
Entry key - keyless
Millage - 56000
Selling price - 800,000
AutosRe: Peugeot 406 V6 Manual (Phase II) Needed in Abuja by Ikenna351(op): 9:56pm On Mar 18, 2013
Hunt is still on.

Ikenna.
AutosRe: Very Clean Registered 2001 Peugeot 406 For Sale In Lagos. Call 08098837260 by Ikenna351(m): 9:54pm On Mar 18, 2013
Do you have a phase II 406 V6 manual saloon for sale as well? Am seriously searching for one. Find the thread below:

https://www.nairaland.com/1222304/peugeot-406-v6-manual-phase

Ikenna.

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