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KingAlabi:
You brought up something i said you should give evidence, you brought an article where his statement doesn't reflect what you said, now you are saying I should go find it.


Can I then say, you are simply lying?

I think you should simply call yourself an ignoramus.

patrickmuf:
I weak...This your defense na die...But still, Mourinho was too defensive in his approach...

So if your starting defenders are,

Valencia(33 year old ex-winger)
Smalling
Jones
Young(33 year old ex-winger)

You would play cavalier like Liverpool and overpower teams with mediocre defenders?

The quality of players at your disposal would determine your approach towards the games. United had the weakest team in the top 6 in 17/18 and Mourinho still managed to finish above Wenger, Klopp and Conte.

No one said Jose was negative in Madrid when his team got 100 points, scoring 121 league goals in the process. He still holds the records of the highest points notched in Spain till today.

So tell me why United didn’t get him the necessary tools needed to win? Pep outspent him, Pep spent more than £200m on his defence alone to challenge for the title while Mourinho was told to work with Smalling and Jones to win the league title.

Man Utd is a joke.

KingAlabi:
You said that he said all these but dropped a picture were he only said "I believe in my management", rat bite the other part comot?

Abi na him talk the headline??

Go and find the article and read it yourself if you doubt what I said.

He said so many things but the most memorable shit he said was that he was pleased to have proven his doubters wrong.

The man is a serpent.

KingAlabi:
His statement opposes what you said you


All he said is that "I believe in my management"

Abi na him talk the headline?

He said no one predicted he would finish in the top 4 and such criticism makes him do better & that he is happy to have proven the critics wrong.

Meanwhile, he told everyone 2nd isn’t an achievement for a club like United. He said not the players, the ex players or the fans would be happy for finishing 2nd when Jose was there.

How can you not see this man is a snake?

KingAlabi:
Video, chat or statement

Or I don't believe it

Shaking my head

patrickmuf:
Chairman, I celebrated the day Mourinho was sacked...Baba insulted the club with some of his comments.

After the Sevilla game, he made some very insulting comments targeting the players and Club as a whole...That's unforgivable...

I support your call for the sack of Ole though but no just try to defend Mourinho, that man is finished...

Insulting the club or fighting for the fans?

The truth is bitter - Jose said half of the Sevilla squad would play for Man Utd and he was laughed at. Some even mocked him.

Few months later, Harry Maguire came from Leicester and captained the team. Daniel James came from Swansea(lower division) and got into the first team instantly.

Was Mourinho right or wrong? Time has told he was absolutely correct. How the richest club in Britain is parading bums like Maguire, Bissaka, James and Lindelof in their team is a travesty.

Leyqute:
Mourinho wasn’t sacked after he garnered 81 points. He was sacked when things became horrible the next season and results were bad- probably because he wasn’t backed in the TW.

Who said he was sacked after finishing 81 points?

Do you even read at all? I said he was criticized for finishing 81 points. Ole was even one of the morons that criticized him. Ole said finishing 2nd isn’t an achievement for a big club like United.

Ole finished 3rd last season and he was beating his chest on camera that he has proven all his critics wrong. The same raccoon that said 2nd wasn’t an achievement.

KingAlabi:
Oga no dey shalaye again.

Tell the ex players to sack OGS

That’s the point.

He’s one of them. He gets no criticism at all. He’s ultra-protected. There’s always an excuse for his failure.

It’s Pogba’s fault or Raiola’s fault.

Pogba’s agent shooting his mouth is why the team lost to a Turkish club.

When that fails, they blame the fans outrage on Twitter as causing disharmony at the club.

It’s everyone else’s fault apart from the PE teacher.

KingAlabi:
So the ex players sacked him then ??

Kindly tell the ex players to sack OGS, thank you

Neville
Owen
Hargreaves
Scholes
Rio
Andy Cole


Only Roy Keane stood by him and said Mourinho needed time and Woodward should have signed the players Jose wanted.

He finished 2nd albeit 19 points behind City. He asked for reinforcements and he was given Grant, Fred and Dalot.

Woodward told him to develop Jones and Smalling into becoming Baresi and Maldini.

KingAlabi:
Ole can finish in 10th as long as he wins the Yoruba league and EFL cup , abi?

Winning the Europa league qualifies you for the CL.

If you are not outrightly winning the PL, the team that finished second(without a trophy) and the one that finished 16th(with Europa league trophy) are the same.

One could even argue the one that finished 16th had a better season. They celebrated winning a trophy.

KingAlabi:
Remind me why Mourinho was sacked?

Because he was hounded out by the so called ex players who felt United should be doing better with the squad they have got.

They stupidly opined Jose should be doing better after finishing with 81 points - they concluded the negative football was the reason United didn’t win the league that season.

Ole was signed and the weapon can’t even reach 70 points with his ultra modern, progressive and ultra attacking philosophy.

KingAlabi:
Tell me was Mourinho sacked when he finished at this position ? , In his first full season

He won 3 trophies that season.

KingAlabi:
Mourinho lost to Sevilla at old Trafford after spending £100m on attack


Wooooow!!!!

Jose had credits in the bank though. He finished 2nd, won Europa, won Carling cup, won the shield.

Ole has what? �

Ole can’t even get into a final.

KingAlabi:
This one na Moyes fan boy oh

I am not a Moyes fan boy - I already said he deserved the sack.

However, keep the same energy for the PE teacher. If we agree Moyes deserved his sacking then Ole should be getting his P45 right now.

KingAlabi:
He lost in a one legged tie on a neutral ground

No excuses for him

Tell me how did Sevilla eliminate Mourinho?

You mean the ship steadier lost to the same team you mock Jose for after spending £130m on defence?

Wooooow!

MRTA7:
Excuse me, what season did Ole finish 6th in the league? In his first full season he finished 3rd. This is his 2nd full season. He started as caretaker halfway through Jose's season.

What’s the meaning of the first full season?

Ole came in after only 17 games had been played. There were 63 points to play for when he arrived and he failed woefully to close the gap.

United were 19 points behind first when Jose was sacked.

United finished 32 points behind first after Ole took over.

Progress?

KingAlabi:
Ole made progress more that Jose with United in UCL, and we lost against a respectable opponent(Barcelona), when Jose lost to Sevilla in the freaking round of 16.


We were 8 points off top 4 when Mourinho was sacked, how many points were we off top 4 come end of the season?

We lost an FA cup tie to wolves yes, but we should sack ole because of that?

So remind us what happened when Ole faced the same Sevilla in the semifinal of the Europa cup(a competition Jose won in his first season)?

afrodoc2:
I am saying if you want to push OleOut agenda you should do it smartly.

Amaka took a team that was 6th midway through the season and ended 6th.

Moyes took a team that was 1st and he had preseason with and dropped 6 places to 7th.

I am not saying you shouldn’t demand for Amaka to be sacked but using Moyes as an example is an error due to parallax.

The team Moyes inherited needed freshening up.

Rio, Vidic, Evra were in the twilight of their career.
Giggs and Scholes combined were 79 years of age.

That’s half of the team gone. The transition process was also horrendous with David Gill leaving and installing a naive Ed Woodward as the CEO.

Moyes was poor but the handling of his takeover could have been better.

I have no doubt Moyes would have achieved more with the current squad than the rubbish Ole is serving week in week out. West Ham is a vastly inferior team to United but look at where they are on the table.

KingAlabi:
City were terrible last season

Wow
But they finished 15 points ahead of United


Wooww!!!!!!!

That’s a testament to how useless Ole is.

Mourinho finished 19 points behind the champions in 17/18 and the pundits came after him that he was finished or football has left him behind.

Ole finished 33 points below the champions last season and the same pundits are saying he’s steadied the ship.

The cognitive dissonance is loud.

afrodoc2:
E be like you need to pick up history books or travel back in time to 2013/2014 season for you to know that this your comparison no enter.

One finished 7th without a trophy and we all agreed he deserved to be sacked. Moyes hardly spent any money.

Ole finished 6th, without a trophy and he deserves more time because of??

KingAlabi:
Patrickmuf if I correct this guy now e go be like say I be ole-in

But fvck shiiiiit


Moyes

Came in after United won the league, managed the team for a whole season and finished sixth.

Ole
Came in at United as a caretaker manager, and steady the ship for what seemed like a nosedive.


How do they compare

United’s position when Jose was sacked = 6th
Ole’s position after the 38th game = 6th

What ship did he steady?

United were in Europe when Jose was sacked, Ole threw it away.

United got into FA cup competition and Ole lost it to Wolves.

What ship did he steady?

More like Ole crashed the ship into a huge iceberg.

2 years later, man can’t even win the lowest tier competition in the country.

KingAlabi:
But there is shame losing two semi finals to man city ?

Oga why na??

After taking 6 points from City in the PL last season, there was no excuse for Ole to have lost that semifinal tie.

City were terrible last season.

The semifinal game this season was even more painful. Ole had an opportunity to start Bailly in that game and take the game to City, but he folded and started the Swedish lesbīan.

City went a goal up, The FA gave both teams an opportunity to make 5 subs and Ole’s first sub came in the 75th minute. Stones scored their first goal in the 50th minute and Ole waited a whole 25 minutes to rescue the game.

In total, Ole made 2 subs out of 5 available and there was Mata, Greenwood and James rotting on the bench. A one leg semifinal berth that he should have thrown everything at the game, Ole succumbed easily like a N30 whöre in Yaba.

A hungry manager would have thrown all his attacking options at the match. Start removing defenders and adding more attackers. United were losing anyway and there was all to fight for. The worst that would have happened is to concede more goals, the best that could have happened is an equalizer. The risk was worth taking but the PE teacher bungled it.

MRTA7:
I love Ole the player. one of my favourite players during his playing career at united. Nothing would be sweeter than to see us win the title with him as our manager.

Reality is, while he has done relatively well in his time as manager. He hasnt shown that he has what it takes to take us to the next level but he also hasnt done enough to deserve the sack.


So please make space on that fence for me.
Thank you.

Moyes finished 7th without a trophy = Sacked!


Ole finished 6th without a trophy = doesn’t deserve sacking?

How?

Lana1:
Which SAF? The same Baba wey dey always sit down for his seat dey chop chewing gum? That same SAF?
Barca dey flog us 3-1 for UCL final with time running out and baba dey sit dey clench fist for where he dey.

If na by dancing Ballerina on the touchline, Sampaoli, Simeone and Conte, in that order, will be the most successful managers in the history of football.

It's not until the manager conducts an ochestra on the touchline before a team can play well but agidi, unnecessary shalaye and ur hate for Ole go dey let you dey misyarn.

There’s no shame losing to that Barca team. They had the better players and arguably the best team in the history of European football. United’s best player that year(Rooney) would struggle to get into that Barca side.
SAF was powerless to stop Barcelona.

It’s wholly different to losing to Crystal Palace, Arsenal, Sheffield United at Old Trafford. Are those teams better than Ole’s team? Giving the job of a manager to a PE teacher at the richest club in Britain is a ridiculous decision. Until Ole gets sacked, nothing will change.

nitrogen:
Pep’s average spend per season is 166m (832m in 5 years) and he has won trophies on the back of the amount he’s spent. Infact he won trophies a year after joining City. OGS has spent a lot already, he needs to give us a trophy and a UCL slot this season.

The difference between Pep and Ole is that Pep does not wait to develop players or wait for their improvement. They had Laporte, Stones, Ake and he still went all out to sign Ruben Dias.

If Ole was at City, he would still be bent on improving Clichy, Sagna and Otamendi. A manager can’t keep saying he’s happy with his crap squad and expect funds from Woodward.

nitrogen:
Now, if you believe that Magwaya and AWB are not good enough, you need to blame Ole for buying them. Again, we are back to OGS, he is not a good manager at all.

Maguire is crap for £80m. If his transfer fee was like £40m, no one would care. Van Dijk was signed for £75m and he immediately made every defender at Liverpool look better. Maguire makes our defence look poor.

AWB is the best one v one defender in the league but that is all there is to him. Once he crosses the half way line, he’s clueless. I think Ole’s only plan was to counter attack. Sign good tacklers who can win the ball and feed the pacy creative players. This is another reason he got Daniel James.

nitrogen:
Lol, you are confirming my assertions. Mou used a worse squad and a shitty system to do something at Utd. OGS has a better squad but no system at all, reason he has not won anything despite spending a lot of money.

Everything (stats, underperformance of the team etc.) is a function of a manager that cannot or has refused to step up. I am not suggesting a Mou or LVG return to OT, but one of them would have won a spoon for Utd with this squad.

The squad is shit but was worse under Mourinho.

The manager is also crap.

If Man United really want to win a trophy, they need quality investment and a manager with a winning mentality.

There’s no way Ole will beat Pep & Klopp to a league title that runs for 38 games.

eph12:
Which one is weapon again o?

A weapon is a tool. A stupid person.

nitrogen:
Wage structure is not a problem, as long as there are good inflows. Finances are affected by the pandemic. If revenue decreases and costs stay the same, what will happen? You would need to borrow to sort out some costs because the option of reducing contracted expenses is not available. The pandemic has affected us.

That said, I do believe that OGS has spent close to 300m in 2 years, what else do you want the board to do? Give him another 200m? How many managers get to spend close to 300m in two seasons?

Pep Guardiola has spent close to £400m on his defence alone. If he buys a player and the player doesn’t deliver, he gets a replacement quickly. That is a manager that wants to win.

Pep signed Bravo to replace Hart. Bravo messed up, Pep didn’t wait to ‘develop’ him because he is not a school principal. He binned him after 12 months and signed Ederson.

It’s a winning mentality. Ole has spent £300m on the entire squad of which the overrated Maguire and the train wreck called Wan Bissaka are almost half of the entire total spent.

It’s not enough, Mr. Nitrogen.

nitrogen:
Well, both managers had shitty systems at Utd. OGS is doing same right now, but the people that blamed his predecessors are not blaming him, they have decided to focus on the players and the board because Ole is a legend.

Tell me if the squad has not improved since Jose left, tell me that we have not signed players since 2018. We have spent a lot to get quality players in, if the manager cannot use them to win just one plastic spoon, then he should and will get the sack very soon.

How has the squad improved?

Highest points reached:
Jose 81-66 Ole

Trophies won
Jose 3-0 Ole

Remember, Jose achieved this feat with Valencia, Jones, Smalling and Young. Ole has spent a further £150m on the defence and they have already conceded 27 league goals this season.

In 17/18, Jose’s defence had two pensioners and two half wits but conceded only 28 PL goals throughout the season.

If anything, Ole is underperforming with a much better squad than his predecessor.

eph12:
Our wage structure drains the club finances

That’s because Woodward is a weapon.

Jones, Lingard(until yesterday), Romero, Rojo, Grant, etc are all drawing massive wages from the club without really kicking the ball.

Who renewed Jones’ contract?

nitrogen:
It’s the system na. Shaw is a very good player, style of play determines how the players will perform. The manager puts the best system in place to bring out the best in the players. Also, the system needs to be very flexible.

Shaw was shīt under LVG albeit he had injuries for large parts of Van Gaal’s reign.

Shaw was crap under Jose - a 33 year old ex-winger was trusted in the role than Shaw.

Shaw has also been rubbish since Ole arrived.

There’s no shame in admitting Shaw is useless. We all wanted it to work out for him because of the horrible injury he had but that excuse has ran its course.

nani6666:
Simply Clueless...

I won’t be surprised Sir Alex Ferguson wrote Ole’s coaching exams.

nitrogen:
Lol, net spend is the new ‘black’. Abeg, let’s forget this matter, our problem is not about quality of players, it’s the manager that is not performing.

The quality of the players is also a major issue.

Luke Shaw whom most Olesexuals think has *improved a lot* has 8 PL assists in 7 seasons.

Robertson had 12 PL assists alone last season. Trent on the other side of the pitch had 13 PL assists.

United’s full backs’ combined PL assists last season was 4(all from Bissaka).

How do you expect them to compete with such crap quality?

nitrogen:
Aston Villa signings in the summer no even pass 80m. Lol.

What is their net spend?

The richest club in Europe has a lower net spend than a newly promoted team and the fans are happy.