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How’s Shaw not scoring that??

What a burger of a man - useless!

That is a better chance than Bruno’s PENALTY.

We should be 2 goals up.

kushercain:
make we observe KdB vs Bruno battle for supremacy today

It’s a mismatch....

KDB has Gundogan, Bruno has Fred.

For fück’s sake, there’s more quality in City’s bench than Man Utd’s first XI.

Some Glazer apologists would still have you believe United have spent money. What money when United’s bench is filled with academy boys who still wear diapers.

Leicester go 2nd.

Ole faces a ruthless City side tomorrow.

Olesexuals in the mud.

Finishing 2nd is suddenly under threat after the PE teacher drew games he should be winning.

patrickmuf:
8 You need help...I can't waste my time exchanging words with an inconsequential low life like you...

Says the idiot who didn’t know City’s academy has been more successful than United’s overhyped babies.

patrickmuf:
When you learn basic communication etiquettes, I can entertain you but that time is not now...

You are a capital idiot.

Basic communication etiquette with a tramp like you? You have to earn that right from me - and I judge people by their intelligence quotient. Yours is so poor to even warrant to be given any sort of basic etiquette.

patrickmuf:
Greenwood isn't quality just because he is coached by Ole...Before this season, who will put Foden beside Greenwood especially after his performances last season? What changed? One plays in a system that works, one plays for a team that depends on magic for anything to happen...Put Greenwood at City and Foden at United and let's see if Foden will stand a chance...

Your infantile argument is laughable.

Greenwood shouldn’t have been promoted so soon, that’s the point. When Foden was Greenwood’s age, he was nowhere near City’s senior team. Greenwood has quality, of course. However, thrusting him into the senior team too soon is going to cause another Macheda, Januzaj, James Wilson. It’s too easy for United’s academy products to get into the senior team - that should worry you.

patrickmuf:
What makes City academy better? The 'Elite' attached to it? Lol...

They have played 5 FA Youth Cup finals in the last 6 years - including a victory in 19/20 season. United haven’t played in a final since Pogba and Ravel Morrison won the Cup in 2010/11. That’s how bad things have been for United’s academy.

The City babies also won the last 2 editions of the U18 Premier League cup while your own boys have been in a deep slumber. You need to start paying attention to the conveyor belt that is producing these rookies before asking a stupid question what the EDS has achieved.

patrickmuf:
If Torres, Foden and Jesus are first teamers at City, Greenwood will definitely make it there...And for your info, I have seen relatively unknowns make City bench and even played (Delap's son and a couple of other come to mind), which totally invalidates your assessment of United just because Shoretire made the squad and even then, it's our tradition...

You don’t know what you are talking about.

You are comparing Jesus & Torres to Greenwood? How many goals has Greenwood scored for 3 Lions? How many has Jesus & Torres scored for their respective countries? Are you people so ignorant of what’s happening around you that makes you spew opata?

patrickmuf:
The Liverpool line doesn't cut it, for emphasis, VVD, Gomez and Matip are all out injured, that's equivalent to City having Laporte, Dias and Stones all out...Remember, Dias was only signed when Pep saw Laporte was having difficulty recovering fully and staying match fit juxtapose that with VVD who has been an ever present for Liverpool before now, did you expect Klopp to splash the cash for another CB just for the sake of it? Hell no! Even Pep doesn't buy for the fun of it except a starter is struggling...

More nonsense as usual.

Even if you remove VVD, Dias and Laporte from City due to injury, Fernandinho and Nathan Ake would fill that role with class and not drop down to 7th. They also have Eric Garcia who is already capped for Spain. They have a monstrous squad!

patrickmuf:
As much as Liverpool have missed VVD and others in defense, you have to also acknowledge that they're struggling in attack...We have scored more goals than Liverpool even though Martial and Greenwood have been off form that alone should tell how bad the situation is at Anfield...

You can’t have a terrible defence and attack with vigor. Football is a system. It’s the defensive base that allows midfielders to bomb forward knowing they have a strong defence to thwart off any surprise counter attacks.

Besides, Liverpool’s problems are much more than VVD’s absence. Klopp has had them running 200mph for the last 3 seasons - there was always going to be a meltdown season especially with the COVID-effect that has forced most teams to play 3 times a week.

Klopp didn’t adapt to the new climate. Pep did by signing more players, Pep adapted by reducing their PPDA(passes allowed per defensive action) & Pep reduced other energy consuming football metrics. Klopp still had his team playing like nothing was missing.

The meltdown was inevitable.

patrickmuf:
As for the $100, look around you, they must be someone that needs it more...I'm quite comfortable where I am...

You can’t possibly be comfortable and present such puerile and infantile points.

Do better, kid.

Uniquisite:
Whenever i imagine McFred against the press of Man city, I shiver!

They will do extremely well against City in curtailing or stopping their intricate passes. The biggest challenge with McFred is what they do with the ball after winning it. This seems to be their biggest weakness. Fred’s use of the ball is horrendous but he’s excellent at winning them.

Ole’s tactical acumen will be to sit back, hope McFred wins the ball in a moment when City have camped in United’s half and then launch a counterattack.

If Fred makes use of the ball very well like he did in the same fixture last season, United could get a draw or even win. Besides, don’t forget it’s a derby game. Form flies out of the window in such games because a lot of other factors are in play.

patrickmuf:
You're trying to be clever by a half, dropping their fees in dollars rather than pounds...

What difference does that make? Put United’s own in dollars or naira & it won’t amount to the aforementioned list.

patrickmuf:
Man City squad for the season cost £810.9m whilst ours cost £628.1m...Taking into context that we have McTominay, Rashford, Tuanzebe and Greenwood in our squad who are academy graduates, you'd see that the £182m difference amounts to nothing...

And there lies the point. City have had a better academy system(since their new owners arrived) known as Elite Development Squad and yet only Foden could make the leap from the academy to their senior team.

United, however, have already pushed low quality youths to their senior team to fill up the quota. We have Rashford, Tuanzebe, McTominay, Greenwood, Amad, Shoretire, etc. None of these players except Rashford would make City’s squad.

When Pep arrived at City, all we kept hearing was that he was going to take their academy players to the next level like he did at Barca. It’s been almost 5 years and Foden is the only academy product he’s developed in that period. Pep buys finished products unlike the rotten system United have - promoting low quality graduates to fill in the ‘homegrown’ quota.

patrickmuf:
For emphasis, Liverpool Squad that won the UCL and EPL in the past 2 seasons cost way less than City and United just incase you want to limit the argument to amount spent only...

Liverpool also invested in a quality starting XI. Trent Alexander Arnold is the only academy graduate in their senior team. United have 6 or 7 of those in theirs of which only one(Rashford) is quality.

And you can see that Liverpool’s strategy proved to be unsustainable when an injury to Van Dijk alone destroyed their ambition as they fell from 1st position to 7th. If they had a monster squad like City’s where every centre half cost more than £50m, they wouldn’t be in their present predicament.

You have proven my point by citing Liverpool and you failed to show me a United bench in a PL game that was as rich in quality as the one I listed. You missed a huge opportunity to be $100 richer this morning.

What a chance!!!

patrickmuf:
How much did Torres and some of those City players cost compared to the likes of Bailly, VDB, Fred, Martial etc? We just don't have a working system and for us to be talking about a working system now, it means the manager has failed in that regard...

On Saturday when City played West Ham, this was their bench.....

Sterling $68m
Jesus $38m
Steffen $10m
Laporte $79m
Rodrigo $87m
Bernardo $60m
Mendy $72m
Cancelo $84m

If you can show/tell me anytime under Woodward we have had such a powerful bench while playing against a PL team, I owe you $100.

BARAJ92:
What magic did he perform against Arsenal and a lot of teams will play Goaless draw with him in the team. Am not disputing the fact that he is better than Mcfred but saying if Pogba was available, we won't have play a Goaless draw is a big total rubbish as with him on the field, we have failed to score in some matches and even loss against the last team on the table

He bailed us out against Burnley & Fulham.

De Gea will miss 6 PL games as he’s gone back to Spain to be with his partner.

I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.

BARAJ92:
With Pogba, same drabless might have been played.

I guess we will never know.

However, it’s always a plus to have another creative player on the pitch. Do you know why City have been so successful, it’s because they could leave anyone out and the replacement would not drop their quality.

KDB has been injured for most parts of the season and Gundogan wore his boots with perfection. Stones is injured? No problem, we would put Dias and Laporte in there. Aguero and Jesus are injured? No issues, we would put Ferran Torres there and flank him with Sterling and Mahrez.

If you remove Pogba from United, there’s no replacement. It’s just Bruno and Rashford carrying the team. This is why I keep saying the Glazers have not spent enough. You need 22 quality players to outrightly win the PL.

CapitalCee:
I have written Ole since that UCL debacle. Ole is completely out of his depth. How a limited and low level manager who is clearly poor in his coach ability is made to manage a club like united, is a mystery to me

He was brought in to save money.

Woodward is a genius. He knew the fans love Ole(a club legend). He knew a lot of United fans would struggle to separate Ole(the player) from Ole(the manager).

Roman got rid of Lampard - no excuses. That’s one owner that demands instant success minus emotions. Some United fans are still deluded that Ole would replicate the achievements of Pep@Barca or Zidane@Madrid.

This PE teacher said ”When you play Man City in the Carabao Cup and they put their strongest team out you're going places.” A sensible board should have sacked him immediately after that game.

1 shot on target against Palace?

Jehovah Jireh

CapitalCee:
Lol. When we tell them that Ole just gathers players send them into the pitch and in sha Allah

He coaches nothing- it’s just Bruno Fernandes & vibes.

Individual brilliance has bailed him out in most of those games and some of those dodgy penalties United got in tight games.

nitrogen:
Lol. Not sure these guys actually practice. The players just run around like bush gods on the pitch.

Meanwhile, OGS is a genius. McTom for Fred and James to come play against a low block. Well done!

The moment Cavani went off, they started putting crosses in.

I have never seen such cluelessness in my 20 years of supporting United. It’s almost as if they haven’t met each other before tonight’s game.

You can only point at the manager. Even if we don’t have the same quality as Man City, the team rolled out today should be beating Palace.

When Wolves equalized last night, I saw hunger, vigor and high intensity from City players to turn a potential 1 point into 3 points.

United were playing like they were already 6 goals up and they couldn’t be bothered to exert more energy. That component is the manager’s fault.

Ole will never win a trophy.

nitrogen:
Lol. Not sure these guys actually practice. The players just run around like bush gods on the pitch.

Meanwhile, OGS is a genius. McTom for Fred and James to come play against a low block. Well done!

Have they renewed his contract yet?

larride:
Still 2nd.

City Next.

ouzo1:
Waiting for the "we re still second crew to come and celebrate this useless draw"

nitrogen:
9 fuvking draws in the league. Wow!

At least there’s an unbeaten away run we can celebrate at the end of the season.

Henderson also gets to increase his number of clean sheets to put pressure on De Gea.

That’s the dream of Olesexuals.

Bunch of fūcking idīots.

nitrogen:
Nawa o, another stvpid draw. Hmmmmm.

It’s progress

Jodera:
No, you for talk about Vdb and ole na. I think say you get more foolish points to bring out.

No go get sense, Illimitable in Foolishness

Shut the fūck up, you idiotic donkey.

If Clifford Orji had sex with Kemi Olunloyo, you’d be their lesbian daughter.

Jodera:
When I said na empty sense you carry come earth, person go think say I dey beef you.
No go beg your creator for sense, even if na pry3 own, cos at least, simple analytical thinking no go dey hard you.
And the worst part is that you type so much rubbish with full confidence. Anyways, madmen no dey shame so I understand why you type so much nonsense with full chest

Your foolishness has been exposed and you have decided to go beast mode into talking a lot of nonsense you heard from the occupants of your house.

I pity the person that made you this way.

Hahahahahahaha - Van De Beek wasn’t there yet and he named him on the bench against Chelsea.

It’s almost as if Solskjaer has infected you with his stupidity. Excuses upon excuses.

De Gea - family issues
VDB - not there yet
Mata - pet bereavement

Jodera - Staph infection.

Rashford should be converted to a right back.

His decision making is terrible. He just wants to run with the ball even when he can make quick passes. He plays like a right back.

Jodera:
So in your wisdom, shoretire and diallo will make the bench while s fit vdb won't make it even as there's no report of rift between ole and vdb.

To get common sense expensive for your life aswear. When your creator dey share sense, where you dey?

I was in the front row when intelligence was being shared, you were on a leave of absence.

We are talking about Ole. The most idiotic manager in Europe. A man that relegated Cardiff from the PL. Why would you trust Ole’s decision making?

Is Mata Injured too?

VDB was on the bench about 3 days ago at the Bridge, you mean he got injured on the bus or armed robbers broke his leg last night?

If stupidity is an academic degree, you would be a professor.

Jodera:
Keep quiet jarey.
You didn't see vdb In the bench but you want ole to start him.

You for kukuma tell him to start martial and pogba since na people wey no dey bench fit start match.

You'll type so many meaningless rubbish with utmost confidence thinking you're smart. Tueh!!

So by your logic, any player that isn’t on the bench can never be available to start a game?

And you are allowed to vote in your country of birth? This is one of the demerits of democracy.

You need to hire a designated thinker.

Jodera:
Oga na you goof still dey yarn opata. Na wa you oo.

You didn't see vdb in bench but you want ole to start him.
Shoretire and diallo made bench but not vdb, so that didn't tell you that he's not available for selection?
You go make mistake, still insult person for correcting you... Tufia!!

You are a gasbag!

There are 25 players in the squad, only 20 can be named for a match. It means some players would be left out fit or unfit.

VDB was on the bench against Chelsea, he didn’t kick a ball throughout and there was no report of any injury in training. So why didn’t the fool start him in a game like this?

Instead of you people to watch less football and increase your brain power, you sit on the internet to type rubbish. No wonder Nigeria is the way it is. The leaders can count on morons like you to make the country a shit hole.

With all the enthusiasm and high energy from Fred, his passing and decision making are extremely awful.

hensben:
That.

So that suggests to you that I meant put VDB from the bench?

Is Van de Beek dead? Why didn’t the clueless manager start him instead of leaving him out of the squad?

Do you people read with your collective common sense or you leave them in the bathroom before coming on Nairaland to type rubbish.

hensben:
Where u see VDB for bench

Who said VDB dey bench?

Ole has strangled this game with his idiotic selection.

There’s no need to play 2DMs against Palace when Bailly is on the pitch. Bailly has the pace and aggression to deal with Palace.

One DM is enough - play Van De Beek and Bruno ahead of the DM to support/supply the 3 forwards with enough creativity.

KingAlabi:
Dem don release this idddiot

Wetin be that im phrase again

Cc patrickmuf

Stop hiding behind patrickmuf, you pathological liar.

I hear the things you have been saying about me in my absence. You are a slowpoke, just like your manager(Ole).

SlaveAlabi.

hensben:
You went from topping epl table to 15 points below man city, and still talking. I expected him to say “we were topping the table few weeks back and now 15 points behind which is not good for our club, but we will be giving our all for the remainder of the games to finish well on the table log”, that’s how winners speak.

They got the loser mentality from the manager.

Ole said he wasn’t in the title race after drawing disgracefully to Everton at Old Trafford. City were only 3 points ahead at that point(albeit United had played 2 games more).

2 weeks later, the PE teacher changed his stance that he’s now in a title race but by then, City were 10 points ahead.

This is a club where the players don’t really expect any huge consequence for poor performances. Harry Maguire(the most idiotic CB in Europe) gets a start no matter how bad he plays.

How can there be improvement if there’s no consequences for playing badly. Martial has done nothing this season but he still gets to play. Ole has lowered the standards so bad that some fans think this season has been a successful one.

SyIvalord:
Quick question though. Why does everyone and their grandmums castigate Manchester United for not scoring against the big 6 but praise the big 6 for “stopping us from counterattacking”, even though our big 6 opponents have not scored against us either?( except Tottenham)

Even some mumu shekpites are basking in the glory of stopping United’s counterattacks and getting a draw at Stamford bridge. Doesn’t this show that people are really scared of our counterattacking play? They always sacrifice their attacking play just to be able to contain United.

Why is no one castigating other big teams for not scoring against us but everyone is busy hauling stones at United because we don’t score against the big six?

The way people have been on United’s case, you’d think we have been unable to score against the big six while they have been putting goals past us for fun.

I think it’s very shameless on the part of other so-called big clubs that they are proud of “shutting out United’s attack”, even when they have not been able to muster much meaningful attack against United either. That is small club mentality.

Man Utd lost 1-6 to Spurs. 6 goals conceded in one game at Old Trafford and you don’t understand why United gets criticized?

PE teacher spent £150m on a defence and made it worse than he met it and you really do not understand why United get criticized?

United are the only team yet to win a league game against any of the ‘traditional’ top 6 team and you don’t understand why United is being criticized?

Is it crack?

nitrogen:
He is using McTom to try and cover his deficiencies. That guy knows nothing!

Using two DMs (McTom) plus 4 defenders is a default style for shameless managers. He will now give Bruno a free role which means when Bruno is closer to the strikers or wingers, no one is in the AM position.

Ole’s level of cluelessness is ludicrous.

I thought you are #OleIn, what changed?

Where’s that clueless and idiotic KingAlabi? I’m sure he’s still #OleIn after going 15 points behind Man City.

A king with no shame. I wonder the kind of moronic people he is ruling.

For the #OleOutters out there, I’m back.

nani667:
#OleOUT
#EndOLE
#OleMustGo
#EndOLECluelessness
#SackTheFraud
#KillTheBasterd
‼️

Nice.