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chrisley024:
Shaw has been performing better this season

He’s not good enough.

I would take a one-legged Robertson before taking a glance at Shaw.

3-0

United should just use this game to increase their +GD.

What a save from De Gea.

chrisley024:
Shaw doing well

It’s easy to do well against 10 men.

Even Lindelof suddenly looks like Baresi.

This is a dangerous situation - Ward Prowse can bend this in.

Rashford with a tap in.

Exonerate1:
Make that 9

Yeah....

9 down, 191 assists to go.

Luke Shaw - what a player.

The best English left back since Ashley Cole.

Bissaka fires it home.....

I still can’t believe Shaw has 8 PL assists in 7 seasons and he starts in every game.

Man Utd is a big fat joke.

If by half time United haven’t scored, Ole should bring on Pogba or Van de Beek.

There’s no reason to be playing 2 DMs against 10 men.

Instant red card!

Ole should win this easily now but man will still park the bus tactically..

MRTA7:
Its obvious Ole didn't want Donny signed. This makes no sense whatever.

Bailly and Van de Beek must be wondering what else they must do to play.

These lads have not put a foot wrong in the last 3 months or so but Ole hardly ever starts them.

nani667:
#OleOUT
#EndOLE
#OleMustGo
#EndOLECluelessness
#SackTheFraud

The fraud has started omitting Bailly from crucial games once more.

After lying to the masses that Lindelof had a back injury that prevents him from starting 2 games in a row, he’s started Lindelof in the last 3 games.

The fraud will find a way to blame the referee again if United don’t win this game.

Solksjaer and daftness are family members.

BARAJ92:
Really, Interesting, Mourinho that started afresh is the one that met a team that was 14th, Clap for yourself

Mourinho started afresh at Spurs?

You mean Pochettino wasn’t sacked in November 2019 and Jose took over mid-season?

Some of you here are circus clowns.

KingAlabi:
Ok guardiola was expectional, mention another success story in this vain

Let us see if it a normal phenomenal

Go!!

Expectional ?

Ole’s failure is starting to infect your grammar.

Oh dear!

larride:
That’s how we were talking about tactics one time like that and some people were praising Biesla as a good tactician, that’s how one Olesexual began dropping alert here whenever Leeds fail to win as if both Leeds and Man Utd have the same quality players.

Not forgetting that when Sir Ole the Great Magician took over a team like Leeds (who just came from relegation) Sir Ole the Great relegated them back in their first season to the championship and was already flirting with relegation to the League One before Cardiff sent the Magician back to Norway.


All hail Sir Ole the Great Magician.

Ole relegated Cardiff in 2014 - he’s a failure.

He’s the most useless manager in the premier league. The quality of the players at his disposal is the only reason he’s sitting in 2nd position as we speak.

Dean Smith, Bielsa, Hasenhüttl, Ancelotti, Allardyce, Moyes, etc would have notched more points at United at this stage.

Ole’s level is the Norwegian league.

KingAlabi:
What is this one saying na

What is the definition of rookie in this situation?

Is guardiola a rookie when it comes to managing big clubs ?

What first team did ole first coach?

I didn't say ole is a new coach but a rookie for a job like United

Which Kain wahala be this

What has managing a big club gotta do with it?

Did their coaching badges have different grades?

So you wrote JAMB with your brother and passed

Your brother went to a federal university & you chose a bottom tier university.

It means your brother is an experienced student and you are a rookie student?

Can you hear yourself?

KingAlabi:
Yes he is a rookie for United job, I guess pep managed Sunderland and trosmoe on his path to success?

What is the meaning of rookie in your dictionary, if you actually can understand words?

Ole is not a rookie coach. He started around the same time as Guardiola.

Pep was hired to manage Barcelona team B(reserves) in June 2007.

Ole was hired to manage Man Utd reserves in May 2008.

They have both bagged their coaching badges before 2007 although I suspect Pep wrote his exams by himself and Alex Ferguson impersonated Ole and wrote the exams for him.

There’s less than a year in experience between both managers. The only difference is Pep went on to achieve great things while Ole swims in the pool of failure.

If we are not careful, you would claim Zidane is a seasoned experienced coach while Ole is a rookie.

Leyqute:
LooL. This guy is funny. So the difference between 2nd and becoming relegation challengers is Slabhead Maguire?

Don’t rewrite history - Jose was in 6th position.

Unlike Ole that was once at 15th position this season and he never lost his job because many of you can’t distinguish between failure and progress.

Jose handed a 5 man transfer list to Woodward around March 2018. Woodward vetoed the list and proceeded to buy bargain basement players.

DeadPresidents:
Yeah? Then why did he not unleash the same magnificent setup for the next season?

Abi him lose the raw file for the setup ni?

Because the stupid Ed Woodward refused to bring in reinforcements.

Mourinho warned everyone it was going to be a disastrous season while in preseason but you people didn’t take him serious.

United deserved their misery.

Boo fücking hoo!

Lana1:
People that are still bitter because Mourinho was sacked still plenty for here.
Must really hurt seeing that he's not even doing any better at Spurs

I saw one Fraudinho stan using our defensive record of 17/18 to make a point for how great a defensive coach Fraudinho is.
Baba don forget how De Gea was superhuman that season making a record 14 saves in one game despite all the bus.

We all saw what happened the following season when we conceded more goals in 17 games than we did in 38 games from the previous season.

De Gea hasn’t left Man Utd, neither is he dead, so why hasn’t he replicated that form since 17/18?

The only time the great De Gea won the golden glove in his Man Utd career was under Jose Mourinho. De Gea was superhuman because of the way Jose Mourinho set the team up.

The amazing thing was that Jose did it with an inferior defensive unit. De Gea isn’t the only goalkeeper that has won golden glove under Jose. Petr Cech won it under him too.

KingAlabi:
I don't know why you keep comparing a rookie coach like OGS to mourinho.

Let's compare who he might fall in the same class with(Moyes).

No all this incomparable comparisons

Ole is a rookie coach?

A failure that started his managerial career around the time Pep Guardiola started is now a rookie coach?

Failure is a bad thing - it’s the same reason many of you Olesexuals think Lingard is a teenager whereas he’s older than Pogba.

KingAlabi:
EFL cup
Yoruba league
Community shield

Why will you celebrate such mediocrity for a serial winner?

EFL cup - Ole has attempted it twice and lost. Man City stood in his way on both occasions and Pep taught Ole a tactical lesson.

EFL cup(Jose) - Jose slayed Pep at Old Trafford on his way to win EFL cup under 7 months.

Europa league - Ole got to the semifinal and was disgraced out of it by Sevilla.

Europa League(Jose) - Mourinho never asked for this competition. He inherited it cos Van Gaal finished outside top 4 before Jose’s arrival.

Had Jose lost earlier in the competition, loudmouths like you would have used it to criticize him. He won the competition outrightly and you are still crying that he shouldn’t have won it.

KingAlabi:
You didn't watch our matches that season then.....that's my point

The nerve of you to say I didn’t watch United games. I saw all the games and the performance were poor because Jose wasn’t backed.

He complained throughout the preseason that the team would suffer if they don’t bring in reinforcements. The media said he moans too much and he should develop what he’s got.

Guardiola kept adding quality to his squad. Klopp brought in Van Dijk & Alisson. Jose was given Lee Grant and Dalot to close a 19 point gap.

KingAlabi:
How many points was Mourinho's team from first place at Christmas when he came second and how many points were they at the end of the season?

How’s this relevant? The season doesn’t end at Christmas. The fact of the matter is the weapon brought in to steady the ship crashed the ship.

Mourinho was 19 points behind 1st in December when he was sacked. Ole(ship steadier) was 32 points when the league ended. Ole added 13 points deficit but you continue to deceive yourself that he steadied the ship.

KingAlabi:
Can we say mourinho was a failure at Tottenham when he came in for poch, because the points from the 1st place increased at the end of the season just like OGS with United.

Only a crackhead would opine such nonsense. Poch left Tottenham at 14th position. Mourinho got them to 6th and back into Europe.

KingAlabi:
A failure is currently in second place while your success (mourinho) is languishing in 6th place, 8 points away.
If a failure can have that feet don't you think it's overachievement?

This is cognitive dissonance.

Ole inherited a team that was 6th and he ended in 6th position in his first season.

Jose inherited a team that was 14th and ended 6th in his first season.

Ole has had 25 months to finetune his team, Jose has had around a year with the microcosm of the amount Ole has spent at Man United.

Needless to say, their last head to head game ended with Jose wiping the latrine floor with Ole’a face. The ship steadier lost 1-6 at home to Jose(Mr Negative Football).

If you need any more evidence that you are comparing a quack manager to an elite manager, watch that game again.

KingAlabi:
Who converted them to defenders??
If not Mourinho them why did he fail to play them back in their respective positions?

You said that mourinho's loves older defenders with quality, and I told you Valencia, young ,Smalling, jones. Fit those criterias. Which one be lynchpin and spare tyre again

You are waffling!

I said Jose loves older defenders with quality and that simply means Lindelof and Eric couldn’t have been his signings as they were too young to lead a title charge.

Jose would be buying older & vastly experienced defenders instead of a pair of rookies that are still wet behind the ears.

KingAlabi:
When he couldn't win the likes of crystal palace and Brighton?

Ole couldn’t beat Palace, Arsenal and Sheffield United but he beat Everton. So what’s your point?

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KingAlabi:
Ole intially came in as a caretaker manager and he closed the 8 points gap with the top 4 but failed to qualify for the champions league, while entirely using mourinho's team.

He finished 32 points below the league leaders. He took the job when United were only 19 points below the league leaders.

KingAlabi:
Then in his first full season a rookie coach came third, made 3 semi finals although he bottled them.
A rookie coach from the Norwegian league!

There’s nothing like a first full season.

He had the team between December 2018 till August 2019 before the full season. That’s a whole 9 months with the team before he finished 3rd.

Don’t also forget Ole had managed the reserve team of Man Utd some years back - so he wasn’t exactly walking into a new environment but a failure is a failure, no matter where you put him.

Ole relegated Cardiff from the Premier League - that’s what he would be remembered for. He’s a failure.

KingAlabi:
But a serial winner like Mourinho could ever just take us to 2nd in the log.

What is your take on these??

A serial winner like Mourinho came to Man United and won 3 trophies under 9 months.

Lana1:
He fit be Ruudie or nyabinghi.
Na why i always dey cautious to dey engage all these new monikers under 2/3 months wey dey sabi type rubbish.

He should stop disguising and post with his real moniker first.


I see how he sidestepped this post...

They didn't sack Fraudinho when he finished 6th after they got him the best players from 3 of Europe's top 5 leagues. But they should sack someone who came in half season.

Beer parlour talk

He won 3 trophies that season and qualified for the champions league under 9 months.

That achievement alone is more than what Ole has achieved if you combine all his seasons at United together.

KingAlabi:
Ashley young made 18 appearances
Valencia made 28 appearances
Jones made 17 appearances
Smalling made 14 appearances

4 years later they were all older and fit the old men criteria for Mourinho, coupled with the experience of winning the league.

But year Mourinho couldn't do anything with them
Are your memories poured into a basket in your brain?

Ashley and Valencia were wingers under Fergie.

Why didn’t Fergie play them as defenders?

Jones & Smalling? 31 appearances between them

Rio Ferdinand alone had 28 appearances in 12/13.

There’s a difference between a lynchpin and a spare tyre.

KingAlabi:
First off we can't even compare OGS and Mourinho based on experience, never ever!!!!!!

But then in their first two seasons Mourinho spent more money than OGS.

Yet he could only enter the top 4 once

But then OGS is currently seeming like he is on course for a second successful top 4 and also still in two cup competitions, not saying he would win them though.

Mourinho was sacked because of his third season top 4 chance seemed lost, not because of your ex players complaint buhaha theorem.

Mourinho qualified for the champions league at the end of every season at United.

With 63 points still to play for, I was 100% certain he was nailed on to finish top 4. After the loss at Liverpool, the run of fixtures was ridiculously easy to close the gap on the top 4.

Ole was signed, he pretended as if he was going to nail the top 4 but the table quickly turned on him after the new year. He remained where he took the job(6th) and instead of him to close the 19 points gap between United and the league leaders, Ole increased the gap to 32 points..

However, SkySports pundits deceived you he has steadied the ship and you lapped it up.

KingAlabi:
Stop twisting and turning bro
Aren't young, Ashley, Valencia and Jones
Premiere league winners ?

If Alex Ferguson could win the premiere league with them, why can't Mourinho?

Premier League winners as lynchpins or spare tyres?

Ashley was a winger under Alex, became a fullback later.
Same as Valencia.

When were Jones and Smalling important pieces of the chess board under Alex Ferguson? Which of them has ever been nominated in the PFA team of the season?

I mean - were Rio & Vidic dead when Jones and Smalling won the league title or your memory bank has suffered an armed robbery attack?

KingAlabi:
Did van gaal, Alex Ferguson and Moyes signing go with them respectively.

Is this an excuse?

What is your point here, because I am not understanding.

Moyes finished empty handed

Van Gaal won a trophy

Mourinho won 3 trophies, qualified United for champions league KO stage throughout his stay at United. He inherited the Europa league from Van Gaal in his first season and won the competition.

Ole has done nothing.

If we go by geometric progression, Ole has failed as he should be doing better than Jose after 2 years. He’s spent close to £300m plus using some of the assets acquired under Mourinho.

So why has he failed to achieve 20% of Jose’s glory?

KingAlabi:
So why complaining about young and Valencia, Smalling and Jones?

They satisfy the age criteria but they fell short of the quality criteria.

Pepe, Carvalho, etc were grade A defenders.

KingAlabi:
But Mourinho spent:

1st season= €185m
2nd season=€198m
3rd season=€82m

OGS spent:
1st season=€226m
2nd season=€83.60m


Can we say OGS wasn't backed as Mourinho based on the 1st and 2nd season?

One would think all Mourinho signings left with him and Ole had to start a new rebuilding process.

Ole also made use of all Jose’s signings and he didn’t achieve anything concrete with them.

As we speak, Pogba(£89m), Lindelof(£30m), Bailly(£30m), Matic(£30m) are still playing for Ole. Add his own signings to this list and he should be doing better than Mourinho.

Alas, we have found out that Ole cannot even notch 70 points, let alone the 81 points Mourinho achieved with a vastly inferior squad in 17/18 season.

KingAlabi:
Again Mourinho had bailly and lindelof as CB options the year he came second.

That would be true if they were his signings in the first place. You are a football buff, can you think of any time in Mourinho’s illustrious career where he’s relied on 22 year old centre-halves to challenge for a league title?

Which one of Lucio, Carvalho, Alex, Pepe, Ramos, Walter Samuel, etc were under 23 when Jose played them? A manager who got a reputation of always playing old proven players suddenly broke character to sign a pair of rookies and you think this was his wish?

Are you a novice?