₦airaland Forum

LordReed:
If both Arabs and Jews were living in the land why is a 2 state solution not the feasible path to end the conflict?

Because as seen from the Bible, the average Arab doesn't want to live with a Jew but kill a Jew. There's an inbuilt hatred for the Jews by the average muslin. You should know this since 6yrs old, reading your bible.

Baatunde:
Was there also ever an Israeli STATE with Kings and what not in the last 1000 years. If Archaeological findings are pointing to the fact that my Yoruba ancestors really used to live in Mecca at a point in the last millennium does that guarantee me automatic claim to land ownership in Saudi? And I have used this argument severally that when the Israelites were brought out of slavery in Egypt and given these lands by their God, there were people already living on the land at the time also. In human history most people have moved away to different places and swapped places with others due to various factors since the dawn of mankind. What is however not in doubt is that the Jews, Christians and Arabs have lived on these lands previously and not in the last 1000 years has it been under the direct rule of the Jews as an established state.

Mind you sir, those who do not want peaceful co-existence are found on both sides of the argument. There are the Zionists who think the Jews are superior to the Arabs and should not be negotiating with them for anything

Jews did not migrate in the sense, they FLED. They were persecuted, hunted and destroyed or led captive out of their land. Nonetheless, there has usually been pockets(remnants) of Jews left in the land, while the dispersed have ALWAYS being uniquely taught and reminded to return home. These things are not done in a corner. Check up, read up on the history of the Jews or check the timeline of Jerusalem for the past 2000 years and enlighten me on when there were no Jews living there, despite the several wars and fights of who to rule over the land. From Romans, to so called christian crusaders to Jihadists to the Ottoman to the British etc. Check well and tell us where the Jews vacated their land for the Philistines or anyone without plans to return or dominate it. If anything, they have been consistent about that since Moses.

Baatunde:
So you don't care if there were other people on the lands before the Israelite. That the Israelite were given the land by God mean they own it forever? And even if there have been an interregnum of 1000 years when they have not lived on the land, they can just barge in anytime they feel like. You are hereby saying that might is right in which case Russia is also justified to invade Ukraine because parts of Ukraine historically belonged to Russia and in fact there are ethnic Russians still living in those places. I get you, don't worry soon the native Indians scattered in South America would soon rise up to reclaim the whole of America for themselves, after all their forefathers used to historically own the land

i care and know that there were other people on the land before the Israelites, it is clearly documented in the Bible. AGAIN, you and your fellow opposers are the ones that DO NOT care that Israel occupied that land for THOUSANDS of years and not the Palestinians. Israel has one of the most/best documented history and geneology in the world. It is not hidden knowledge to the whole world that they live and lived and will live in that place. There was NEVER any interregnum of 1000 years like you suppose. As dispersed as the Jews were by God as punishment, they had steady remnants for the past 2000 years. They did not just barge in, go and study proper history.
Ukrainians were under Russia BTW before separation. Many countries separated from Russia. That's not in any way what we are talking about anyway. Also, we did not have 330million red Indians living in the US of A. The Europeans met them there and they co-inhabit till today like you just said. The Philistines on the other hand had their own land and encroached into Israel's land till they almost took up everything, a norm that many nations and people have done in time past and Israel reclaims it tens of time, every single time.

Baatunde:
Did you just omit the part where there were people already living on the land when their God promised them the land?

No, i said you mentioned it already and it's on biblical record. On the other hand, it's opposing folks like you that fail to see that the Israelites were people already living on the land for THOUSANDS of years before the Palestinian people.

Baatunde:
We can ask the same question of the Israelis about whether their father ever told them that some people were already living and well established on the land even before they were forcefully given the land by their God Wait... I think the Bible (Torah) tells that story in Deut 18:9.and Deut 6:10-12

" When the LORD your God brings you into the land he swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, to give you—a land with large, flourishing cities you did not build, houses filled with all kinds of good things you did not provide, wells you did not dig, and vineyards and olive groves you did not plant—then when you eat and are satisfied,be careful that you do not forget the LORD, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery."

"When you enter the land the LORD your God is giving you, do not learn to imitate the detestable ways o[b]f the nations there[/b]"

They know their history very well like you just quoted. It is you their opposers that try to gaslight us that the land belongs to Palestine, knowing fully well that Jews lived in that land for thousands of years.

What sort of clownish gaslighting is this? History wey BIBLE no dey inside, that one na history? Did the land suddenly appear there in 1917 or the 18th century? Why you no rewind your history to centuries and millenias earlier? So convenient to start from when Palestine inhabited the land. Did the fathers of the palestinians not tell them the history of the land or they decided to play dumb?

500k is like $500 right?

Maynman:
Jelili, Shadows are formed when something obstructs the light.

All thanks be to God for this great discovery, i am very happy for you AJ.

LoLz, this question is asked every Sunday here. Does it give you guys some form of life achievement, since there's no purpose in your sorry unbelieving lives?

LordReed:
This is my position as well. I find I am less bothered by why people do good things than that they do it at all. Your motivations for doing good will not make you superior or inferior to some other person who has a different motivation.

Interesting. You should probably have this same disposition when people believe or serve God, whether because of fear or love. Motive is very important in some cases though.

Maynman:
Will there be shadows there?

Ajasco, have you ever seen shadows without the Sun?

LordReed:
Humans have long been fascinated by perfection and what it might entail but have never had any way of even making it remotely possible. This is why religion promises that perfection after death where no one can come back and report or bring back evidence.

Future, stop being clever by half reed.

jaephoenix:
So what difference did the 10% that prayed to the 'right' person make since the country is still worse off?

We should be asking the European countries that are also 10% and ask them what they are praying about.

Lots of ipob terrorists right here, lol. Hypocrites.

losers. They will wail unending, it's their destiny.

Armaggedon:
The developed countries put their Prayers to work and developing countries pray like Yoruba pastors who pray for better Nigeria but vote a bigoted thief, heroin trafficker and certificate forger as president.

E pain am. Better take your well predicted loss in peace and avoid this bitterness. 8 years is a long time.

Prayer changes things na. It's like percentage of time spent online or reading. You must direct appropriately.
You might be reading more than someone who uses his own reading to get PhD, but are you reading right?
You might be online more than someone who works and earns money online. What are you doing online? Same logic with prayers.

As an aside, 90% of those people on this table are praying to the wrong person.

LordReed:
Well if you can achieve this without a god how are you able to tell the difference?

Big facepalm on your behalf 🤦‍♂️. Achieve what, human nature? Every human being has spirit, soul and body, though not all developed in same proportion. Having a keener conscience or stronger will has nothing much to do with God. You MUST be born again.

The person's body is probably used to that time. Our bodies are different. It's usually not a big deal or spiritual thing.

Jman06:
Yet some people think that success in marriage is about courtship and how long it took.

Truth is that you can meet someone today and marry that person tomorrow and still have a successful marriage.

Courtship should not take 10years, it should not be more than one year maximum except for unforeseen circumstances. It is very good to know and have an idea of who you want to marry. This can be done within 4 to 9 months ideally. It is dangerous to marry like a gamble, marriage is more serious than that.

You probably packaged yourselves for the 10years, and threw away the packaging after marriage. Marriage is actually the main work, not dating.

It's all in the Bible. The fella called Ishmael continues to hate on his brother.

harrypetty:
It is not a good excuse for Tinubu and his people to do further damage to our reputation as a country. I hope you get it now.

Tinubu has not done anything negative to your reputation. Tinubu has always been a graduate with honours of CSU who lost his ceremonial diploma certificate. It is Atiku and his fellow sore losers online that are damaging your reputation by harassing foreign schools, courts and going everywhere online to falsely accuse their president.

harrypetty:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc9k_HeQvWg?si=rWEItddicb2W2S0R

Lolz at diplomatic repercussions. Is like you were born today or you are not conversant with the insults Nigeria and Nigerians have been receiving for decades internationally? It's time to blame Tinubu for them, like some blamed Buhari and some GEJ. Blame game will never move people forward, learn that.

Time wasters. BTW, where's Mr President? He came in sick from the US, and we have not seen him as we usually do since, except for the recorded October 1st broadcast. Opposition remain focused on rubbish about Tinubu's gender and certificate.

Who that one concern, abi wetin make we take the information of these clowns do? If you were so serious, why did you not present all these your jokes since February/March deadline of presenting?

Programmer47:
Lmao. Wahala for who dey defend Apc sha. Very dubious, clueless set of human beings

You have to be on premium subscription version of delusion to imagine that i would sit with you trying to convince you that 1 plus 1 equals 2. Enjoy

linearity:
You are the one displaying ignorance and lack of knowledge here....

This is a vendor that Price University have pre-authorized, when you order through them, they will get your inform from Price University through their secure communication as I stated before.

This vendor works hand in hand with Price University to get you your diploma...They do not take your words about your graduation, honor, etc from you, they get the authenticity info through their back-channel communication from Price University.

Vendors like these are not going to get dates wrong, they are not going to get signatures wrong.....and Tinubu did not use any vendor approved by CSU to obtain his Oluwole Diploma hence the University did not back it.

If his replacement certificate came from their approved vendor, they would have said so under oath, rather under oath they say they cannot speak to its authenticity.

Finally, a vendor not authorized by a University can not offer a replacement diploma for that University....You have a myopic understanding of this and I can spell out the details in each post.

Lol, it's a free world dear. Enjoy the delusion.

linearity:
Every Graduate Diploma have a seal of authenticity from the University that issued it.

Again, you cannot approach third parties to issue your diploma, you have to approach the University and it is the University that sends the Certificate to their own third party through their secure communication path to print the certificate and after printing it is returned to the University where they will cross check with their internal systems including signatures, etc and if everything checks out, they will put their seal on it.

Tinibu went to Oluwole, where they googled Diplomas from CSU and got a hit on Certificates sent out around year 2000, they xero everything including the signature of the President of CSU was not the President during that time, and even after all that, they got the dates and logo wrong and they then forged the seal of CSU on it.

A third-party vendor cannot put the seal of another entity on the document belonging to that entity....and CSU would never permit their seal to be place on that replacement diploma that Tinubu submitted because the information on it needsis factually incorrect, which would be a dent on their reputation.

CSU does not need to state that the certificate is fake, all they need to say is that it was not issued by them and anyone with common sense will conclude that it is fake simply because it did not come from the source.

Cure the ignorance brother, leave pride. People perish for lack of knowledge.

b0rn2fuck:
it's never about unseat. The damages already being done. The rest of history

What damage, who damage? Allegations and accusations happen every election cycle around the world. Opposition did similar with Obama. Till today, they still question Obama's sexuality and his wife's gender. Similar happened to Trump. Those are your so called saner climes.

LoLz