₦airaland Forum

LordReed:
FYI

Lol.

ambale:
So how has the tough decision fared on the nation? We all know, the economy crumbling and inflation here and there

These guys are never do good and anyone who supports these government can never do good either.

You lots plunged us into an economic mess and you are looking for decorum, he no go work ooo

Return our economy to how you met it simple

You don't want decorum, no problem.

BluntCrazeMan:
You're the Petty One Here.

You're the one who is putting out words which I didn't say.,, and assuming them to be my words.

And that was why I had to tell you to JUST GO..
So relax...
I will still bring you back to my very own words again.
(And not these words you're typing here and assuming they are mine)

(The worst thing we have experienced in Nigeria, are people who conjured evil in their minds, and projected their evil thoughts on people who are innocent, and then, started punishing the innocent people just because they had believed within themselves that the innocent people were just pretending to be innocent, and they were thinking about the evil which they had assumed that the innocent people were thinking..

These type of bad people are everywhere..
They always make people to look bad, by blaming their thoughts.. Even when the thoughts they are supposedly blaming are blatant lies that are cooked up by them..

For instance: the Police, the dirty politics, etc)

You need help, psychological help. May God help you.

Kdon2:
Who needed his response?? It only show he has no capacity to control his rabid dogs.

Someone that can't control his wife and children will control terrorists?

Jerchance:
This man is too exposed. What if one of his security details give am one accidentally??

Because he's too desperate. And his 500 followers show the same level of desperation. It's not a show of love but desperation and frustration which is understandable with the economy. The problem is Obi, who would rather let it all burn in his few days of fame, since he knows it's all lost. Pastors and Imams control crowds in the tens of thousands every week with decorum and they are very loved. Obi will be with hundred people and they will be behaving like animals while he looks on to paint his suited narrative. Very similar to the CPC Buhari playbook(before APC merger). He had his few, mostly illiterate but very vocal and extreme supporters from one region of the country.

Yes daddy. You are hereby declared winner for this act for the last is first. All ass on the judiciary.

BluntCrazeMan:
I will bring you back here sometime again.

For now,, just dey go

Don't pray to. i have not said anything wrong. The Bible doesn't teach speaking or instigating people against government, rather it calls them ministers of God.
Hoping that Nigeria will be bad or not move forward so that you can say i told you so is petty.

jmoore:
It is a worldwide update.
For the date, it is next year.

Source?

This is incompetence. Do it yourself na.

Yes daddy, it's a very expensive secret daddy.

BluntCrazeMan:
Dey your dey oga.
..
You're dragging in circles.

At least, i am not lying on the Bible or bringing up diversionary points and questions like you.

Wike the wicked talkative worker. Sha work(perform).

BluntCrazeMan:
I have long stopped trying to discuss with people who drag themselves in circles.

I asked two simple questions.
And you're dropping epistles.

Your 2 questions were irrelevant and diversionary, because i was talking about Kumuyi while you were asking about God. Kumuyi is not God. BTW, your epistle is longer than mine. i guess you prefer one line answers or being ignored instead, i also have the skillset if you ask.

And talking about the slavery in Egypt....

Are Nigerians not suffering from slavery at the moment?
Both mental and financial slavery?

If you are in slavery, i am not. i am not forced to work for the government and i barely know anyone who is. i can get my passport and lawfully travel to anywhere in the world with a valid visa. Perhaps, you need a dictionary for the right word. You mentioned Moses, that's why i mentioned the Israelites that Moses delivered who were in Egyptian slavery/bondage.

About God's chosen people who formed a sect (even trained soldiers for themselves) against the established leaders,, then tell me something about the young combatant David.

You need to be high on some banned substance to say that David formed a sect against Saul. Read your Bible.

And then, you rotated to New Testament??
It seems you do not know Jesus’s true offence?
He was against the bad systems that were put in place by the so-called religious elders and leaders, and the elders and leaders after seeing that he wants to make them irrelevant and open the eyes of the people,, they came against him.

i live in the New Testament era, i don't have to rotate there. Jesus NEVER instigated anyone against the political class, Herod or Caesar, stay on track. Tinubu, Buhari, Obi, GEJ and co are not religious leaders.

Who will open the eyes of Nigerians.??

And I ask you again....
Are we really doing good in Nigeria??
Is Tinubu really the prophesied saviour of Nigeria?
Is he going to open the eyes of Nigerians, and lead us all (individually but collectively) to financial freedom.??

Or are you going to come back in the Future to quote this news-article and say that Kumuyi didn't mention Tinubu in his statement.??

[/quote]If you are blind, see a doctor(optician) or God. Stop asking me diversionary questions on what we've not discusssed or i did not comment on.

BluntCrazeMan:
So,, you're saying that God lied about Buhari?

Or you mean that God really made Nigeria better through Buhari.??

Which one?



(Moses in the Bible told Pharaoh to let God’s people Go ----
Elijah himself came against king Ahab...

So,, which Bible did you say you and Kumuyi had been reading.??)

Bring up the video of what he(not God) said about Buhari, let me know the context. Newspaper headlines can be misleading. The newspapers obviously say a lot of things about the government that you and i do not agree with.

For instance, look at the headline and read the report. There's nowhere in the report where he mentions Buhari or something, but you're free to convince otherwise or believe what suits you.
https://dailypost.ng/2016/12/26/god-will-give-buhari-solution-nigerias-problem-2017-kumuyi-prophesies/

Like i said, he(Kumuyi)'d never instigate people against government. Moses never instigated the Israelites against Egypt or Pharaoh. The Israelites were slaves and continued their jobs with even more rigour until the last day/pass over day. They never cursed pharaoh, or took him to court or protested. Moses and Aaron went personally with God's direct message to Pharoah after over 430 years. Nobody took anything personal, no senator or minister of Egypt was dragged, disregarded or disrespected.
Same goes for Ahab, it was all personal. Elijah never led any sect or instigated the people against the king or the government. As fiery as Elijah was, he never told anyone to disregard the king. He of course gave God's message to the king as at when due and sent. Arise, go down to meet Ahab king of Israel. Simples. He did not gather a congregation to insult Ahab before them.
You can help look up new testament examples also in your quest to be biblical.

Eyes and lives on the judiciary nko? E no work? Billboard and T-shirt money in the mud.

Essien45:
Almost the same thing he said about Buhari. This pastors can pray for people as leaders but don't make emphatic statements like this.

Probably because he knows that there's power in the tongue. If Joshua and Caleb are saying the good, and others keep murmuring and complaining, the murmuring and complaining brings problem to the majority. You never see any new testament believer in the Bible say things against government and their government was even more wicked and brutal.

BluntCrazeMan:
He spoke same thing about Buhari in 2015 and 2019.


So??
What exactly did he hear from God.?

That's consistency. You'll hardly hear him say negative things about rulers, even from military days. If your candidate was there, he'd say the same thing. Pastor Kumuyi follows the Bible like Mathematics. He'd never instigate people against government be you pharaoh, Nebuchadnezzar or Caesar. On the other hand, he'll not normally encourage you to join politics and he'd preach his message of holiness to you. The beautiful thing is that God continues to honour his life and ministry.

Bizibi:
you and I know that money will be looted,is as if some of you haven't even learn a single lesson from 2020 covid monies of more than 400b naira that was budgeted for disbursements, they even made announcements for disbursed monies without evidence....... well we all know how this will end in the states.

You're on to a different pot and matter entirely from the OP. You can produce viable solutions instead of complaints. Complaints and murmuring are as old as Adam and Israel, very easy.

Lamba warrior, the remaining half nko?

Batman2412:
I can't understand why FG can't pay directly into our bank accounts

Are you a government worker or what payment are you waiting for? The greater % of poorest people don't even have BVN and bank accounts. Nigeria is not just about 5 states or cities. That you live in Lagos, PH, Abuja, Kano does not mean all Nigerians are there. There are the majority other states where they have just a couple of banks with just a couple of branches in the whole state. People travel to bank.

gard9ner:
FG borrowed 500bn for palliatives and gave 5bn to each state plus the FCT. Now, 5 x 36(+1) = 185. Therefore, 500 - 185 = 315.

In other words where is the remaining 315bn from the loan, was it used to purchase the bags of rice distributed to the 36 states to cushion the effect of fuel subsidy removal?

Now, my other questions are how is the distribution of 5 trucks of rice (rice oo) to states, mind you some states have tens of millions of residents, help in remedying the high price of PMS, (2) if they really mean well, why can’t they use this monies to build refineries and industries to create employment and end the importation of PMS (3) why didn’t they use the CBN to disburse the monies to every Nigerian using BVN? And who is deceiving who?

You fellows are plainly ignorant or refuse to think or remember. The president made a nation-wide address and outlined many of these plans, yet you are calculating rubbish about 5 X 36.
Let me re-iterate that palliative is NOT a right and will not reach everybody. A palliative is meant to PALLIATE(to moderate the intensity of something). Subsidy is gone and the country will surely feel it as we are already feeling it. Palliatives are only to help reduce the intensity as much as possible.
Among other things, these are some of the things the president mentioned below. i know you guys are not interested in learning and will ask the same dumb question in few days. Nonetheless.
-Expect, 75 manufacturing enterprises will have access to a N75bn fund.
-N125bn conditional grant budgeted for the MSMEs, 1,300 very small businesses will be given N50,000 across 774 local government areas, 100,000 MSMEs will have access to N500,000 and N1,000,000 loan with nine per cent interest rate payable within 36 months.
- N50bn each to cultivate 150,000 hectares of rice and maize, N50bn each will be invested in cultivating 100,000 hectares of cassava and wheat.
-Infrastructure Support Fund for States to improve rural roads to aid smooth transportation of farm produce.
-N100bn will be spent on the purchase of 3,000 units of 20-seater- CNG fuelled buses.
-Presidential CNG Initiative targeting over 11,500 new CNG-enabled vehicles and 55,000 CNG conversion kits for PMS-dependent vehicles.
- They are also discussing increase in salary.

These and more are the things that you should be tracking instead of asking dumb and ignorant questions like programmed bots in the name of opposition. Dangote refinery costs over $20billion and is not yet ready, and you are here on front page asking that refineries(in plural) be built with 500 billion naira. Do you think a refinery is a car or wrist watch and you just buy/order?
Better KNOW ahead now that refineries will not automatically have major impact on price of PMS. They will mainly ensure availability and reduce pressure on the forex market. PMS price will be affected by global price of crude oil.
Your last point about CBN sharing money via BVN is pathetic height of ignorance. The poorest people don't even have BVN and bank accounts. Nigeria is not just about 5 states or cities. That you live in Lagos, PH, Abuja, Kano does not mean all Nigerians are there. There are the majority other states where they have just a couple of banks with just a couple of branches in the whole state. People travel to bank. If you that is busy pressing phone and watching video is expecting free food, you are on a very long piece of weed. Better pray for the FG, State governments and Local governments to use their new found windfall to help you build quality roads, schools, hospitals, better electricity, jobs and network. Keep watching Tinubu(sharing billions to your state governors) and watching judiciary while the rest rob you blind.

BabaCommander:

Ignorance. Heavenly minded people forgive. Imagine people that Paul killed their husbands, wives, imprisoned their children etc. hugging him and kissing him here on earth, reading his epistles and praying fervently for him. Small thing. Your boss is your boss, no my wife in Heaven BTW.

i'm excited too na. Count me among the four excited people in the picture and declare him president of the excited. Lambalogy.

LordReed:
Do you think everyone who professes to follow Jesus does so?

You act so though. Agenda must agend.

My uncommon man, lol.

Structure of ipobility.

Obi, Obiiiiii, why did you do that?

ambale:
Alaye the president posited himself as a know it all person even when we were saying that buhari had plunged the economy so down, you lots were chanting renewed hope.

Do you honestly believe the steps of the president can bring about hope at this point?

Firstly, kindly learn to address people appropriately or not at all, this is a public forum and not a bar or bus park. The president has at no point posited himself as a know it all but more as someone with the nerves to make tough and correct decisions. In fact, most people touted and still tout him as able to work WITH brilliant people like in Lagos. Also the 10 or so special advisers that he appointed in June are top class and a pointer that he is not doing like he knows all. He has even gone as far as appointing young and opposing brilliant people like Bosun Tijani to work with him.
Everyone with some little knowledge knew that the former administration did abysmally on the economy and that the removal of subsidy and parallel exchange rates needed to be dowe for the country to recover. We also know that it will come with a lot of temporary pain on the country. These things are not new or rocket science. Hope is definitely on the way. What agitators and opposition need to do is have some patience, and help the State governments to do their bit so that our recovery will be sooner than later.

Obi and Atiku are sure to lose. Then, they will move their case to Supreme Court and still lose. They are bent on and destined to lose, but they are being sore about it.

Streetdoctor:
Well, I agree with u, then can Tinubu welcome any ideal to push d economy forward? Tinubu is only after power, nothing else. If not, dis is d time he would hv be doing consultation from different business gurus

Townhall meetings which Tinubu engaged in, during campaign than going from TV station to church, are consultation from different business gurus. Apart from his yearly colloquium for over one decade, Tinubu engaged with every sector from youths to NESG to lawyers to farmers etc within the last one year. Apart from that, he has employed over 10 special advisers who are all solid technocrats top brainstorm on solving issues. i will take those 10 or more technocrats to consult with any day than getting advice from a madman or yesdaddy consultations.
You need to be ignorant of the calibre of people that have come to Aso Rock for consultations in the last 2 months to say Tinubu is not doing consultations, it is unprecedented.

joefelin2345:
Was that also what your APC did to GEJ. What constructive advise did it give then. Even see your first lady who in 2012 was pretending as a friend of the masses is now saying? You are bundle of renew nonsense joor. Don't worry, your days are surely numbered. It's just a matter of time.

i don't engage ipob terrorists. Even GEJ and his wife cannot say this nonsense.

Blaze14k:
So you actually believe these palliative will get to poor people like u said?

Bring up a better and workable idea. The FG cannot by-pass the state governments and local governments or continue to wait forever for all things to be perfect. They tried disbursing 8k earlier, there was an outcry. Now this. It's going to 3 months since subsidy was removed, the opposition cry the most about palliatives, once they are bringing out palliatives, you cry no, without any better arguement.