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wirinet:
In addition, I think it's the introduction of Christianity and Islam to Black Africans that also brought with it incest. Before the introductions of these religions, incest was virtually unheard of, it was a taboo of great magnitude. Cousins were not allowed to marry or have sex no matter how many times removed. Even then the ladies were walking around topless. Now, some people are condoning fathers having sex with daughters because she was sleeping carelessly.

It is actually westernization, not religion. You're ignorantly mixing the two. As for christianity, we both know that such was not allowed.

wirinet:
I just don't get the crazy mind set of the average fundamental Christian (and Muslim) that you must impose your beliefs on others by any means necessary.
Why should I convince my wife or any other person that God doesn't exist?. To me God is a very personal concept. Even my children I don't try to preach to them. My daughter loves bible stories and pray with my mum everyday. My sons are a bit apathetic to religion like me, but they are forced to join the morning devotion by my mum. It reminds me of my own childhood where I was literally forced to attend morning devotion everyday until I went of to the university.

"Convince" means to cause or persuade someone to believe, it does not mean to "impose". Well, you are a mere sinner so i expect you to twist and turn na. i have known you for a while on the forum and you were a notorious atheist in the religion section, convincing people or trying to, on why they should not be religious. You used to bring in news on your small wins with joy. It has pretty much died down now, i guess marriage happened or someone's prayers. There is nothing wrong with "forcing" little children to do right things like devotion, brushing their teeth, waking up, going to school, learning, making healthy lifestyle, doing some chores etc. That is not the same as when they become independent like you are, at which stage they can only persuade you or pray for you.

Workch:
So what are you wanking about?

Citizen of Celestial North Korea

Don't be shy. Is that your closet hobby?

wirinet:
You know see why I left Christianity and religion all together. I saw that religion kills conscience and distorts the difference between right and wrong, replacing it with doctrine.

Your conscience that does not see the difference between a 8year old child and a 17year old child, is that one a conscience? Abeg, go and take a pee or something. We dey talk conscience, wearyone sef dey show face.

Lollittaa:
[color=magenta]religion is a great cover to hide under, for many. Still, there are those who genuinely seek God from the bottom of their hearts. Image123 is a bloody pervert, religion or no religion. I pity the children he has access to. Pedophiles often like to be in a place where they have an excuse to be close to children and teenagers [/color]

Better leave that wearyone to himself. That one that cannot even convince his wife that God doesn't exist, you allow him to be literally whining you. According to Jewish law now, that girl ought to be killed, i believe you are aware?

kimco:
Thanks for the link. But it still falls short my brother. Let's not go far. When you were born you had no concept of God. But your instinct was to survive and avoid pain. This meant that one was ignorant of the world they found themselves. Your need to survive predates religion....you were born not knowing anything. Bar Nature vrs Nurture, the way we see the world is heavily based on our experiences. The God concept is not a biological concept but a social one. But the need to survive is biological...a state of ignorance predates knowledge and experience. One needs a reasoning(conscious) brain to consider God, one just needs to be alive to consider pain or discomfort. Your link just tells me that religion is older than we thought. Good education.

Brother, there is no attempt to predate anything here, whatever wants to predate religion is free to. The point remains that humans are naturally disposed to religion, whatever stage you may put it. Just like reproduction comes at a certain stage in humans, it's not immediate does not make it a stranger or learned thing. When it is time, the hormones will come, there will be 'heat', and the boy of yesterday will be a father. It's in him. Go to any cave in any part of the world and meet cave men there, they are worshipping something or someone. Man will continue to subscribe to some higher power of sorts. It's in the nature. It's another thing to now be taught and redirected to the right path or God. But a natural man is religious or if you prefer, will be religious by instinct.

Workch:
Argumentum ad populum.
You see yourself in the celestial North Korea when you die with your dictator god receiving your praises

What a funny expectation

You are either deceiving yourself or totally off point on the subject. The fallacy you seem to just learned talks about stating that something is real because the majority thinks so. If you are intelligent enough, you will notice that i have not attempted to claim or prove anything to be real. It is a simple undebatable fact that the population of atheists in the world is a shameful minority. It doesn't prove or disprove anything, it is simply a fact of the atheist's irrelevance. i don't need to prove God to you or anyone, i don't owe you neither do i have to.

Lollittaa:
I wasn't wrong when I called you a pervert. Eroticising the actions of a blood relative, who's a minor as well, can only be done by a debased mindset

Mummy G.O ma, do you realise that you couldn't answer basic questions due to emotions? Your answer would shatter all the show you are putting up. Do you know that you are guilty of false accusation, idle words and insults? In your emotional attempt to defend a probable hypothesis, you have sinned against God. You are free to check up my posts and quotes, i have insisted that the parent carry the major blame/fault. You seem to want me to exonerate them which i have not done. i have only rightly insisted that the 17year old share in being responsible. If you have been 17year old before, were you sitting and dressing carelessly before your father? Was he bathing for you? What many of you fail to realise is that this is more than a court issue but a moral one. And when you continue to make it a court issue, it will continue to repeat itself. There was a thread earlier today on the front page about a missing 17year old. How coincidental. Usually, i don't open or read through those kinds of thread and even this one. i opened that one because of this one. i don't read them because they are normally a waste of time for me, i know what to expect and read from there and i have not been disappointed. If you read through the first page of that thread like ccandy pointed out, the majority were only gisting about her likely sexual escapades and their fantasy about her. i had to go open the thread just now to copy the link, and guess what, an alleged teacher in the girl's school confirms that 17year old girls are not naive angels, but they know what they are doing and should have some level of responsibility. If you like, make your blood relatives be seeing the unclothedness of your 17year old when you reach the stage. When it happens, go and start making affirmations like "you're sick, you're sick, you're a pedophile". Don't do your homework ehn, keep dreaming.

Pelecius:
Lol
I was surprised to see him also use it.
I then asked myself, is it that he just got the meaning? Or he knew all along, but pretending and forcing another meaning to it?

May God have mercy on him and his ilks

May the Lord have mercy on him, he is blinded.

HellVictorinho:
1. I work as a teacher in a secondary school.
2.When I joined the school in 2019, it was 10 000 per month.
In September 2020,it was increased to 12 000 per month.
In May 2021,it was increased to 14 000 per month.
But that doesn't mean I have been receiving a specific amount every month since I joined the school.
Whenever the school is on break,I don't get paid at all.
If the school resumes late in a month,it also means the payment will be affected.
I have tried to get students for alternative private lessons but it has been futile.
The extra lesson organized by the school has been terrible and useless to my life.

Thank you very much for your candour, Victor. Though like someone said, you may need to delete some of the details as i would in my quote too. i want you to realise one thing, you don't know it all, nobody does. You need to listen, a successful person listens to feedback. You are not likely to be successful if you do not listen. Whatever disappointments you may have faced in life, your ATTITUDE is very important to overcoming and being a success. You have a lot of resilience and i commend that. But you seriously need to change your attitude to life.
i believe you need a change of environment. You can make more than this as a teacher. Also,i don't know if you have teaching qualification and if you are a subject teacher or a class teacher. There are menial jobs that you could do to get much much more and use as a stepping stone to achieve your goals.

3. I was given the phone number of another private school's owner by one of my colleagues but I have not called the person because I don't have credit on my phone and it is not yet time to call the person.
I am not sure if the other school has even started holiday lessons.
I wanted to call the person to request for a part-time job because I don't want to continue as a full-time teacher.
I also wanted to call another person that promised to introduce me to some students for private lessons.
Then, there's a person that I am yet to call to ask if a cleaner is needed in the factory.

In my humble opinion, forget the cleaner in the factory job. It will waste your time, degrade you and probably still owe you and not pay you on time, yet the salary is low. If you want to get "dirty", then go for dirty that pays more, like construction, labour, maybe driving/riding or some sort of sales hustle. The only reason i might side a better paying teaching job is experience. As in, it can still appear on your resume in future. And if you are the type that wants to proceed in education line, it is priceless.

4.Well, I can work as a part-time teacher/private lesson teacher in different places or/and help people to solve assignments online most especially on Maths/Physics.

*But I also don't mind dumping these things to do porn*

The nonsense some people say about pornstars remains nothing but nonsense

I see pornstars as successful brilliant people too.

It takes brilliance+chance/luck to do anything to get money.

Someone who is good at and can teach Physics and Mathematics should be looking towards things like Aviation, IT, Engineering, even Lecturing and teaching. Not prostitution. Your desperation to do 'anything' to get money should not make you plan and see things in an unintelligent perspective.

5. I live in Gberigbe,Ikorodu, Lagos.
6. I live basically alone in a single room but I have neighbors in a compound that shows nothing but suffering.
7. I am yet to pay at least 17 000 which is required of me.
If I don't pay before another person comes for the room,I will have to leave.

You need to leave the place anyway. Start a new and better chapter.

8. I finished secondary school in 2015 and I'm 24.
9. I have done several jobs including teaching,selling drinks,washing cars, cutting grasses,packing sand, assisting brick layers, fetching water

You can still 'make it'. Don't give up.

10.Speaking of my background only makes me disconsolate(d)
11.That one that mentions my mother's name in vain never helps matters.
My background is unnecesarily large for no reason.
I wonder if my brother is still alive where he is.
I hope my eyes don't get damaged as a result of what I have been eating.

Sorry about your situation. i don't agree with Budaatum on probably a million things but i know that he means you well. On a serious note, you need God, you're just the candidate. Yeah, eveybody needs God in a sense, but He can easily be to you what family is yet to be to you. Even if it is for hope and faith or some kind of placebo if you'll call it so, having God in your life at this stage will help you much. Like they say, don't give up on God, He hasn't given up on you.

14. I have not made any call to the two people I have talked about in the teaching line or the person that works in the factory.
I cannot determine how they will respond.
I don't know if they still need anyone.
I can't call because it is not time or/and I don't have credit.

You're procrastinating, and probably negative about how it may turn out.

15. I don't have any ID

My birth certificate says I am someone different from Victor 'Hell Victorinho' Omris.
But I don't agree.

I was Omerigwe Victor.
But I am now Victor 'Hell Victorinho' Omris.

You'll need to make it official in some way, because the government and other organisations will only recognise the name on your certificates(birth, O'levels etc). i'll advice you make the decision positively, with a better state of mind, and with the future in view too. i'll call you Victorinho for now, but try to reconsider it.

I wanted to do rap but some issues have made it so difficult to release/upload anything.
I will still try again.


It's of no use calling me what I don't want you to call me anymore.

If anyone wants to get my attention without severe issues, the person has to call me what I want him or her to call me.


Like I said, I don't mind porn too.

Try to work on the advice, find some time to think, reflect and project, and i wish i could say pray. You can also attempt the OP's latest quiz to stand a chance to win. The sky is large enough for everyone who wants to truly fly.

AntiChristian:
The fact you can't disprove is that he told the rich man to follow the commandments and then to sell his properties and follow him.

Why didn't Jesus just simply say "accept me as Lord and savior"?

Joh 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

You are a sinner and need to be made a new creature, arguments cannot save you.

kimco:
Im good too my man. You cannot establish this. Early man was not necessarily religious. He just wanted to survive. All these things you mentioned were learned behaviour from one point that cascaded. One group's brain abilities grew and decided to question his environment. Imagine being like ants....who are you going to worship? You just want to survive. Man has been by default a non theist....ignorant if you will, (his natuaral feeling is i dont want to die, i dont like pain) imagine being hungry and afraid...what time will you have to question your world. It is when you have attained a sense of security that one starts to appreciate the world around him and question it proper. The worship thing is not instinctual. Its learned behaviour that branched all over the place. The idea of God was created from a need to be comfortable, mentally.

Here is your style, maybe it will help. It is very clear from the Bible and from human experience. People of all colour, time, nature and economies have a God void that they fill up, which is only satisfied in the knowledge of the true God. Go into even the basest of cave men history, humans tend to attribute things to a higher power, devotions, prayers, rituals. When you are afraid or hungry or want to survive, by instinct humans ask for help from a perceived higher power. From God to luck to the sun to rivers or trees or the dead etc.

LordReed:
We are waiting for Jesus to come and change water to wine let's have a welcome back party.

He's coming to judge the world, not have parties with the world.

Kobojunkie:
What figure of speech would that be?

David slept with his fathers, you take that literally right? Always the truculent one.

Lollittaa:
you're sick, very sick.

My dear, this is not a affirmation or confession thread. Calling people sick continously doesn't make them sick. You couldn't answer basic questions due to emotions.

ImaIma1:
Look I am lady like you and I see a lot of these things that happen. But I am learned enough to know that putting all men in a box as perverts is not a smart thing to do.

If your dad didn't sleep with you, your brothers don't sleep with their daughters, etc, why generalize? You should be smarter than that. Leave your bias for Nigerian men aside and reason clearly.

Finally, here's someone who reasons. We keep repeating the same mistakes and going down the same route. Jail him, kill him, useless man, castrate him, hardly solves anything. Ask the man now, he'll likely give some dramatic tears and mumble something about the devil. And we go round the same circle again. Man sleeps with daughter, 50year old marries his teenage girl etc. Anyone that doesn't go round this silly circle/box is considered a sick pedo. Na wa.

wirinet:
Don't mind the pervert.

My 8 year old daughter comes and sleep in my bed whenever my wife goes to her monthly Friday night vigils. She has her own room but prefers to sleep on our bed. We only allow her sleep with us when she is sick. Other times we drive her to her room. Having a hard on because your daughter sleeps on your bed is the worse evil I can think of.

Mind you, many families live in one room or room and parlour apartments. It means that when ever everyone is out of the house leaving the father with the daughter alone, he will start having a hard on (according to the perverts).

Wearyone, you forget that you are the one who doesn't fear God, i do. You fail to be reasonable and are being just emotional, ironically that is usually the accusation people like you give us. Putting some level of responsibility on a 17 year old is not perversion. Your daughter is 8years old, do you wish her to be the same level as a 18year old?

Lollittaa:
[color=turquoise]and if she doesn't lock her bedroom door tightly it the bathroom lock is not good, then you descend on her, right? [/color]

Seeing you have moved to your next line of thought(out of the abundance of your heart), i believe we can conclude that you think it proper for a 17year old girl to sit or lie down carelessly, or she dresses in front of her father?

wirinet:
Even though I still don't get the point in relation to this story, I can tell you that any parent that leaves an 11 year old girl and a 7 year old boy home alone in a civilized siciety will have a lot of explaining to do to social services. The parents might lose the children on charges of negligence.

It appears you don't know what to say again, stop day dreaming.

The real Sanwoolu.

Lollittaa:
[color=gray]in other words, if your fully developed 17 year old daughter or niece mistakenly flashes you skin, you'll r@pe her. May God have mercy on you. [/color]

Mummy G.O ma, Is it proper for a 17year old girl to sit or lie down carelessly, or she dresses in front of her father?

wirinet:
You are a real pervert. I will be afraid to leave any teenage 20ft near you alone. In most African societies up till about 60 years ago, teenage girls walk around topless, it never entered their fathers mind (or any other male member of the society for that matter) to rape them.

While I was schooling in Sokoto, just 30 years ago, there was a village a just a couple of km from the school, where the girls walked around topless. The was never a case of rape recorded.

So looking at your daughter dressing or lying carelessly, and you will have a hard on. Grose.

Okay wearyone, so It is proper for a 17year old girl to sit or lie down carelessly, or she dresses in front of her father? You seem to have a lot of insinuations and suggestions running through your mind. Attempt to read what i write, not what you think i write.

Workch:
Another nonsense from the Bible, Rapture

Christians will be raptured into a celestial North Korea

Keep calm and focused. The fact that the irreligious is an empty barrel minority is such a pain right? What can we do against the truth?

Mindlog:
At least I used "once established". Just know that when it comes to child protection, where a minor has been defiled, the perpetrator (adult) owns 100% blame for the sexual abuse. No lawyer worth his salt can use seduction by the minor as his line of defence! Kwaheri

Glory to God, we're not in a law court , neither am i here to defend anyone. Case dismissed?

wirinet:
I am still confused at the sense in what you wrote to the topic at hand. Are you saying it is the responsibility of the 17 year old to stop her father from raping her or she was irresponsible for reporting to the mother? Please explain the girls irresponsibly in this case.
I was not an angel at 17 but I would find my mother having sex with me very traumatic.

Maybe you are insinuating the 17 year old should runaway from home and start fending for herself because you and your sister were fending for yourself at 11.

You seem to have developed a fatal attraction for my sister, she is married and out of reach. To fend means to look after and provide for. It has nothing to do with running away from home or neglect like you initially thought. It means she was so responsible that my parents could leave us with her, to take care of us, to take us to places without much supervision. i only add that to give a backdrop of what responsibility common 11 year olds are capable of, not to mention 17year olds.
Like you said, you were not an angel at 17, neither was i. We were not naive like 6year olds. Do you get it to that point before i proceed?

Lollittaa:
[color=maroon]It's a shame you call yourself a Christian with such a pervasive mindset. Judgement will start from God's house.[/color]

you forgot to answer the question ma, instead you are ironically hasty in judgement as against the exhortation of the Holy Scriptures.
Is it proper for a 17year old girl to sit or lie down carelessly, or she dresses in front of her father? We're doing a RCA here if you know what that means, come down from the rooftop.

HellVictorinho:
Call me Victorinho at least because I want you to call me Victorinho if you can't include Hell because of your faith .



The right questions are

1.What job am I doing?
2.How much do I earn?
3.Am I seeking a specific job anywhere?
4.Can I do multiple jobs in a specific line if necessary?
5.Where do I live?
6.Do I live alone?
7.Am I having issues with the house rent?
8.When did I finish whatever goddamn school?
9.What jobs have I done since then?
10.Is my background poor?
11.Is my background large?
12.Do I have any hope of getting any specific job in any specific line anywhere?

1.What job are you doing?
2.How much do you earn?
3.Are you seeking a specific job anywhere?
4.Can you do multiple jobs in a specific line if necessary?
5.Where do you live?
6.Do you live alone?
7.Are you having issues with the house rent?
8.When did you finish whatever school and how old are you?
9.What jobs have you done since then?
10.Is your background poor?
11.Is your background large?
12.Do you have any hope of getting any specific job in any specific line anywhere?
13. Is your name Victorinho on your passport or any government approved ID?

cc: budaatum

Lollittaa:
[color=orange]I won't be surprised if a person like you looks "responsible", a family man maybe with little children on the outside. But a complete degenerate, on the inside. In your opinion, there must be something she's done, maybe she doesn't know how to sit or lie down, or she dresses in front of her father or something. You're disgusting. [/color]

Is it proper for a 17year old girl to sit or lie down carelessly, or she dresses in front of her father? We're doing a RCA here if you know what that means, come down from the rooftop.

Lollittaa:
[color=tan]nothing to understand. His mind is sick.[/color]

You're taking it personal and from the us vs them angle that you ironically accuse others of. The mind of the human being is a very beautiful thing, don't let it play on you.

Mindlog:
Your perspective holds no water before sane minds nor before the legal system once established she was defiled by her father.

The girl is not GUILTY in any way, she is the one defiled by HER FATHER...she DID NOT RAPE her father.

Glory to God, we're not in a law court or before sane minds only, we are in a forum. i have not disagreed with you on the parent, you seem to want me to do. i do not know the girl, neither have i heard from her to pronounce her guilty or not. Your mindset already pronounced judgement, which is not very wise. ciao.

wirinet:
What difference does it make if it's a 6 year old or a 17 year old? According to the law, they are both minors. But that's even besides the point. He is her father for God sake. A person that raised her from birth. A person that bath her till she became a pre teen. A person she trust with her life and existence. Abeg what responsibility or blame the 17 year old daughter? What responsibly do you assign to the wife? Are you insinuating the wife was irresponsible for leaving their daughter with her father? I am trying to understand your logic.

That your patents neglected you and your 11 year old sister to fend for yourselves does has no relationship whatsoever with people who are sexually abused by their parents. I just don't get the connection.

We're not in a law court wearyone, we're on a forum. The responsibility of a 6year old is different from that of a 17year old, yes or no? i expect you to answer, right?
Of course, i only mentioned an 11year old to show responsibility, not neglect. That's the connection. People are not responsible due to neglect only, your worldview seems quite the myopic. i've been personal because of the sensitivity of the matter, and been a "family" issue. i've referred to my own sense of responsibility at 17 and that of my own sister at 11. Help me, were you an angel at 17?

HellVictorinho:
&$#$_'_43##$_$++63#$&&


You don't know how I spend my time.


Ask the right questions instead of assuming if you are not a hypocritical misdemeanor.


Ask as someone who knows nothing about me instead of assuming Bla Bla Bla

If you don't care to know,then say it!!!!

Spits........

Victor, what are the right questions?