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ifyken:
Well you are right because I have been an atheist for less than four months. I was having a bad day,what I have been asking God for a long time,I still didn't get it then I read a topic 'religion is ridiculous' on nairaland and I was converted. So small effort matter.
I troll my christain friends by asking them question about God and they answer until they can't think of anything,then they say i should not talk much or good would strike me down but I just say that he should strike me that I am ready but he never does

Lol, because you think God is a subject of logic. You don't really find God that way. If everyone had to find God that way, we'll all need higher arguments, good lawyers(liars) and academic intelligence. God doesn't make the bar so "high" for WHOSOEVER. It will be unjust.

HardMirror:
some would remember what we say when they time comes for them to wake up. there is this guy i used to read his comments on nairaland. lordreed back in 2014-2015 there about. it was him and seun's comments back then that helped me come out as an atheist, i used to keep it a secret and was confused where i fitted in society. our efforts matter

You actually died, not woke up. Now you are a slave of sin and satan, a slave who doesn't even know.

IMAliyu:
Care to define 'worship' as you used it here?

reverence, adoration and devotion.

HardMirror:
sir, you just said it all. the issue of the definition of God is actually the root problem

The atheist has defined god with no example. God doesn't fit into his definition, therefore there is no God.

kimco:
Goid I knew I could trust you to give me links. Good to learn. Reading the links though the info I got was that man has the tendencies to be religious.

It goes like this

Ignorance --> confrontation (with the world) --> fear--> introduction to comfort (could be parents or big daddy in the skies)

Man hates to bear responsibility or be alone or be helpless. This makes it easy to slot religion as a comfort zone....

The default settings of man is ignorance. The natural tendencies of man is not man's default settings. Man is naturally capable of evil...man is not by default a killer lol...

So im going to concede to your definition of default aka natural tendencies. Yes, man has the natural tendencies to be religious....thanks for the links bro
Sorry for the late reply, nairaland won't let me login in for some reason.
It all boils down...survival...

No worries bro. The Bible teaches that man is a sinner as well, it's in tandem with man's natural capabilities for evil.

ponziponzi:
Created? I’m not a chair. I was born.

You were created before you were born.

Dr. Cluver has no clue. Ask where him pikin dey now, e fit be prison.

ponziponzi:
What type of God will make his followers wait 13 years before having Children? Can you imagine the kind of trauma the poor woman would have gone through? This goes to show that their God doesn't have their interest at heart.

The type that still went ahead and created you despite your folly.

HardMirror:
interesting. i am interested in your story.
1. were you born an atheist? if no, how did you become an atheist?
2. if you are no longer an atheist, what God so you subscribe to and why?

thanks

The evangelical atheist, you dey find soul for here. Make i follow help you.

HardMirror:
you are right that liberal christians are confused. I agree 100% why? because christianity requires you take a solid stand with the full expectations of the religion, you cannot be on the fence as a christian. so homosexual christians for example are confused set of people cos need to twist the scriptures to support their liberal belief.

you say fundamental christians are honest, well to a large extent, but only when it comes to validation of their religion. are they honest about the problems of their religion? Absolutely not, they are extremely dishonest when they must defend their religion and only honest in matters that validates them or their religion.

The honest atheist, holiness is what makes you see God. You can be honestly wrong/broke, but wrong/broke nonetheless.

GardenOfGod:
Can you now see that you don't only BELIEVE In Jesus and then be saved?

Belief on the Lord Jesus is comprehensive as seen in the Bible. Read it in full, not in part. Read it to understand, not to respond.

GardenOfGod:
Who wrote those portions in the Bible?

The vital question should be who authored and inspired them. Many printing press and peoples have written. But the Word of God is quick and powerful and sharper than any two edged sword.

GardenOfGod:
According to the portion you quoted in..
2Timothy 4v18: The Lord will deliver me from every evil deed and will bring me safely into his heavenly kingdom. To him be glory for ever and ever! Amen
I can pray for God to deliver me from it.

God Himself gives the mode of deliverance, the mode is to flee.

GardenOfGod:
According to the portion you quoted in..
2Timothy 4v18: The Lord will deliver me from every evil deed and will bring me safely into his heavenly kingdom. To him be glory for ever and ever! Amen
I can pray for God to deliver me from it.

God only delivers people who flee from fornication.

GardenOfGod:
You quoted John, Timothy and Paul.... Where they sinners?

i actually quoted the Word of God.

GardenOfGod:
Secondly, was the writer of the portions you quoted above indulge in any form of sin?

The Bible is the Word of God.

GardenOfGod:
Yes of course I am a good prayer warrior, I pray for God to give me the grace to overcome fornication, but the girl is still with me... What will happen?

You flee fornication, not pray for grace to overcome fornication.

GardenOfGod:
I have a question please...
If I believe with all my heart the Lord Jesus Christ with all my heart, and am in my church very active in all activities BUT I have a girlfriend where we commit fornication.... Will I still make heaven because I have believed the Lord?

Faith without works is dead brother. Your faith or belief has to be accompanied by works of repentance. You repent from fornication and all immorality because it is only the pure in heart that will see God. See carefully the verses i quoted, they all talk about purity too.

2Timothy 4v18: The Lord will deliver me from every evil deed and will bring me safely into his heavenly kingdom. To him be glory for ever and ever! Amen.

Fornication is an evil deed to be delivered from and flee from.

1Th 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 

A fornicator is not blameless or sanctified.

Jud 1:24  Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,

Of course, you know that a fornicator is not faultless but fallen into sin.

My primary school teacher taught me well "No rough play".

budaatum:
No can do Khia. Especially not when I can use your name to illustrate my so called crap.

i've been laughing nonstop for about 10mins. They say when two madmen meet, one must give way. Buda buda, your theology na world class

Dangerousboy:
thanks You see, the few word's of encouragement I get from you guys is like fire shot into my bones. Thanks

Don't be distracted by koboko and people like him. He has literally nothing to offer than truculence and confusion.

Little wonder these fellows cannot smell Lagos power seat. These inane repetitions cannot win elections.

LordReed:
LMAO! Hushpuppi even invoked his god to fire anybody against him, the was hilarious.

Subtle snakey.

petra1:
Wrong . Had Mirror Has denied the faith by his will. His salvation is lost. The bible says we should not pray for such a person.

1 John 5:16 (NKJV)
16 If anyone sees his brother sinning a sin which does not lead to death, he will ask, and He will give him life for those who commit sin not leading to death. There is sin leading to death. I do not say that he should pray about that.

Heb 6:4 — Heb 6:6 (KJV Strong's)
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

You get time and patience, well done. He doesn't read Bible only unsold awake magazine.

HardMirror:
and yet you guys want me to prove i was a christian. ogbeni you are not a christian. maxindhouse is a christian.

i have known you and engaged with you for over 5 years. i have never asked or wanted you to prove that you were a Christian. Get your brain in order or has devourer devoured your memory?

MaxInDHouse:
If you are a Christian prove it now!

HardMirror is your brother in faith, save him and prove yourself worthy before Jesus as his true follower!

This was Jesus' own words to one of his disciples when Jesus realized that Satan is planning to take them away from the faith.


"Simon, Simon, look! Satan has demanded to have all of you to sift you as wheat. But I have made supplication for you that your faith may not give out; and you, once you have returned, strengthen your brothers" John 21:31-32

So Mr Image123, are you a true Christian?

Prove that you are by strengthening your fellow believer who is about to fall out of the FAITH!

If you people are deaf spiritually, HardMirror is speaking out that he's living the faith due to weakness, now is the time to strengthen him if truly you are a Christian!

You're more ignorant than i estimated. i don't have to prove that i am a child of the King, you're free to cut a limb if it suits you. Artful dodger.

Kobojunkie:
OH, now you want to change the subject?

What was the subject, don't you remember quoting me?

Kobojunkie:
Ok, so God did not require a bride price for Eve but God doesn't necessarily apply the same rule as far as other women where marriage is concerned? Interesting!

Here's what i said, take your time to ruminate on every word. Your truculent jumps can wait for others, okay?
"Joining takes place with consent of fiance and fiancee, the institution(s) they submit to, and finally stamped by body joining. All other excuses are deception."

Lollittaa:
[color=olive]you're disgusted by a smiley but not against minors being molested. Bloody hypocrite [/color]

Disappointed i said. Where did i say it is okay for minors to be molested?Try hard to think, emotionalism is not really helping you.

MaxInDHouse:
If you're not deceiving yourself with LIES prove it by defending your faith now!
Nobody needs you to jump into the ongoing discussion between two persons. If you've got something worthwhile to say about your faith in Jesus go ahead and say it. HardMirror needs proof that Christianity is not just some delusional thoughts so if you're truly a Christian open your mouth and defend your faith. This is the time to prove your Jesus not to start hiding behind the scenes arguing with me.
The person who needed your defense is HardMirror not Maximus!

So much multitude of words but you couldn't answer the simple question. Did i lie? Do you think anyone a Christian who is not part of the JW?

Lollittaa:
[color=pink]you sound pained. Did i hit a nerve? [/color]

Every single time, you disappoint because you show that you are not really against evil but being emotional.

Kobojunkie:
Really?
Your mention of the bride-price practice in India by woman was all so you can show that God does not have anything to the paying of bride price? Interesting!

The truculent koboko, did i say God does not have anything to the paying of bride price?