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Nectarbaba:
Should I sponsor your trip to Afghanistan to preach?

If the Americans had preached the true gospel for 20years, their billions of dollars and life wasted would not have been in vain. It's a clear case that shows money, training and man made ideals are powerless against sinful nature.

laiza:
In what way does the taking of Afghanistan justify islamizing Africa? Some of y'all will just arrive at some nonsensical conclusion.

Afghanistan belongs to the Muslims and the US and the West knew that before they invaded their land and tried to force democracy on them. They revolted for 20 years and finally take back their land. For your information Ethiopia shares border with Muslim and Chtistian nations and no single country in the world worships orthodox religion except Ethiopa. Do you think Muslims or terrorist cannot take over Ethiopia if they tried? Nobody can islamize Africa, its an absurdity to even imagine that.

How. Did it not "belong to" another religion before muslims took over?

Who wan die?

Jesus Christ is the answer for the world today. All America's billions could not last 3 months on this people. Imagine if the true gospel had been invested in this country for that 20 years? America itself doesn't want Bible, so what can they give to Afghans, man's fleshly ideas that don't last.

Jesus Christ is the answer for the world today. All America's billions could not last 3 months on this people. Imagine if the true gospel had been invested in this country for that 20 years? America itself doesn't want Bible, so what can they give to Afghans, man's fleshly ideas that don't last.

raptex:
Kindly stop derailing the thread. Thank you.

Okay bro, i was giving my opinion on political and religious movements. Birds of different feathers should not flock together.

HellVictorinho:
Nobody is too smart to die as a result of misfortune


Luck Is Not By Merit



Man proposes while chance disposes



Nobody makes money by himself or herself


Nobody is really independent _not even Elon Musk

But you act all independent like you need nobody. You are at variance both the sane and otherwise on the forum. It's only you that is right and understands. Someone offered you a 60 to 90k job last week, you scorned it.

What on earth stops you from opening another email address, you are online every day?

[quote author=tammyf post=104834367][/quote]Busy body reed doesn't mind his own business. All his family are theists oh,but he comes on NL looking for free minds to indulge and bully their minds like satan the serpent. If you ask now, he probably went to church today. But he's here leading the gullible to nowhere.

LordReed:
I thought with your god all things are possible? So there is something your god cannot do?

Your god is satan and he is limited and judged already. His God is Yahweh, with Him all things are possible.

LordReed:
Satan and the god are 2 sides of the same coin, the coin of fairytales. Neither side can help you. You are going to have harness all that you are and all the resources available to you realistically to move up. There is no magic to change your situation.

In a long time, we are in agreement on religion matters. It seems that the end is nearer than initially supposed.

HardMirror:
. If memory serves me well, hahn once invited me to just a basic whatsapp group of atheists and i turned it down. while it is true that joining groups would most likely lead to a herd mentality, it is also true that socialization is VERY important if we are going to make impact in our society.

Memory can definitely not serve you well, you should know that your daddy deletes whatever he feels like from it. So you people get WhatsApp groups where una dey gnash teeth ontop my matter, lol. That's good news.

2Co 6:14 KJV Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

LordReed:
Just like you you are risking thousands of hells aren't you?

Lol, how can a Christian be risking thousands of hell when you don't even know 20 that say Christians are going there? Be sensible, you are growing older Reed.

kingxsamz:
Lol, religious folks think they're special and they're the centre of attraction in the universe.
They think the whole universe exists just to house them. Many haven't come to terms that they're like atoms in the universe and their earth is like a spec of dust in the universe. They don't know how ridiculous they sound when they say they believe in a god (who supposedly created the universe), and that god looks like them (who are like atoms), and the god is a male, and the god has a son, but for the god to have a son, this god had to impregnate a supposed "tiny atom" in the universe so that he can convince other tiny atoms to believe in him. The fact that humans have given an imaginary character their own physical attributes tells me all I need to know.

Ignorance laminated.

BassReeves:
This just made my day. Thanks

Well, one never said that Rev. Chris Okotie's fart is deodorised nah, why focus on the pointed finger, instead of, as in this case what the finger was pointing at

It's not a focus, just a true statement like other statements i have made previously on TB.

XXXXTENTACION:
No .... There is more to life than death and if all the facts you know are only death and destruction then i think you have a problem...

When are you going to die? You must know right? You seem very afraid of death, why?

BassReeves:
Just because it's like APC and PDP, doesnt mean that because one is crying with tears running down the eyes, one doesnt see road clearly.

He is the only with balls and brave enough to speak up, at least in that respect, kudos and fair play to him. Like we've all done from day one, he too from the onset in the early days had spoke out that TBJoshua is sham

Of course, sane Christians know he's saying the truth. We've said it times without number that TB is not a Christian. That doesn't mean he's not a charlatan(Okotie).

LordReed:
Wait, are you asking for a specific date and event?




Read the conclusion for a summary of the mechanisms. As for the specific cognitive functions you mentioned I dunno if you are aware that several types of animals have displayed some form of these cognitiveabilities, such as problem solving, tool use, communication, language, theory of mind, culture, agriculture, self recognition, object permanence, social learning, episodic memory, etc. When you say animals can never develop cognitive abilities what exactly do you mean.



What is the definition of morality?



You have a funny way of looking at conversations. I give you an example of the thing you are asking me and I answered your question that it was not good for the victims and you call it a fallacy. Also I have properly addressed your question, it was not good for the victims even though the group who took the action thought it was but our morality has evolved away from that type of behaviour.

Your morality keeps evolving to suit your whims. Tomorrow when your morality evolves to kill us all like Mao, what should we do? Who exactly determines this evolution of morality? What happens to those of us whose morals refuse to evolve?

LordReed:
Which dictionary did you check?




Which secondary sources talk about Jesus' burial in a tomb?

Person wey no go primary school still dey demand for secondary school ni?

BassReeves:
You have to separate the wheat from the chaff in what Rev Chris Okotie is saying.

Just because the bath water is dirty, doesnt mean we throw the baby out with the bathwater.

You can refuse to like the Rev Chris Okotie person, if you like, but dont cut off the nose to spite the face. Look at what he's used his finger to point at, dont look at his finger

It's like APC and PDP, they are both bad and to be burnt, buried and then thrown away with everlasting padlocks.

XXXXTENTACION:
Why do you guys always threaten people with death....
if you don't have the answer kindly move on.....

Facts are not threats. Your life or anyone's could end today, yes or no?

ponziponzi:
How do you know that?

How do you not know that?

Olukoya should have sacked the blatancy of the failure out of him a long time ago.

Two charlatans seeking relevance through the name of a dead charlatan. Isn't this the comedian that was threatening corona virus last year?

The world cannot end today duh. It will take at the least one thousand years of Christ's reign on earth. Your life could end today though.

Where's her repentant pastor husband?

HellVictorinho:
Tell me what I have gained from you and that bastard

Hope that you failed and fail to use.

HardMirror:
lol. all those things religion makes you fear are all imaginary. ghosts, demons, satan, god, etc. you can lock yourself in the house, only and chant any incantations that is supposed to make demons or the devil appear to you and nothing will happen. but when you are religious, you actually think these things work. your brain plays tricks on you; every shadow looks like a demon - infact you are convinced you are seeing spirits. lol, just your mind playing along your belief. Many people think they hear god talking to them in their hearts, lol, you are only hearing yourself. no bigger scam than religion

Aren't you the jokester here? A person getting life changing directions direction, person getting word of knowledge on what he knew absolutely nothing about to whom he has never met is only hearing himself abi. Yet you saw these things oh, not them say. Only that your new master formatted your memory as the devourer that he is.

Lol, you dey fear make i no convert your convert. Pele efangelist. Allow the man ask questions abi which kain Hitler you wan be, no freedom?

HardMirror:
i beg you, ignore that guy. he is always following my comments up and down nairaland. he is just a poor attention seeker

ifyken:
Should I troll you by asking you questions your faith cannot withstand. Just answer me and I will destroy your faith

Your question made me laugh very well. Anyway, you are free to open a thread on the religion section and ask me germane questions. Be prepared to read to understand, and not just read to reply. It's the wise thing to do.

BassReeves:
Matthew 16:28
'And I tell you the truth, some standing here right now will not die (i.e. will not taste death) before they see the Son of Man coming in his Kingdom.”'

Hebrews 9:27
'And just as it is appointed and destined for all men to die once
and after this [comes certain] judgment,'

Brah, I would have loved it, had it being that without giving explanation, you simply just answered the questions straight up

Bass i want to believe that you can see how long your epistle is to try to tell us that Enoch died when the Scripture clearly said otherwise. The same Hebrews that you quote says so. Quote the passage in the version you used. It ironically says "Enoch was caught up and taken to heaven so that he would not have a glimpse of death;"

Brah, absence of Bible passage evidence that says that Enoch died is not evidence that Enoch did not die (i.e. is not proof that Enoch did not experience physical death)

Brah, with the utmost respect, Hebrews does not very specifically says Enoch did not die.

It clearly says so, that is why you need a lot of paragraphs to attempt to make it say otherwise.
New International Version
By faith Enoch was taken from this life, so that he did not experience death:

New Living Translation
It was by faith that Enoch was taken up to heaven without dying

Christian Standard Bible
By faith Enoch was taken away, and so he did not experience death.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
By faith Enoch was taken away so he did not experience death,

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
By faith, Enoch was transported away and he did not taste death,

Contemporary English Version
Enoch had faith and did not die.

i could go on you know, but let's forge ahead.

There different things here. It's one thing, not to see death, but its a different thing to taste death (i.e. to die)

In, Shakespeare' Julius Caesar, Caesar quoted below is actually confirming scripture (i.e. Hebrews 9:27 seen above):
'A coward dies a thousand times before his death, but the valiant taste of death but once. It seems to me most strange that men should fear, seeing that death, a necessary end, will come when it will come.'

It's different according to you and Shakespeare?

Brah, Hebrew 11:5, states that Enoch was translated that he should not see death. The verse does not say that Enoch did not die, does not say Enoch did not taste death, but only said he did not see death, and so this makes me re-ask the question again and I humbly hope you'll sincerely, honestly and truthfully answer, which is:
What specific death was Enoch taken away not to see?

You are only attempting to make a very clear verse esoteric. Which one is tasting death, seeing death, specific deaths? Are these demarcations clearly taught in the Bible? How do we know that it is not my own(the normal) understanding of death that was referred to in chapter 9? What you are doing is called eisegesis.

Matthew 10:28
'“And you shall not be afraid of those who kill the body that are not able to kill the soul;
rather be afraid of him who can destroy soul and body in Gehenna.”'

Luke 12:4-5, 13-21
'4"I tell you, my friends, don't be afraid of those who kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do.
5But I will warn you whom you should fear.
Fear him, who after he has killed, has power to cast into Gehenna. Yes, I tell you, fear him.
13One of the multitude said to him, "Teacher, tell my brother to divide the inheritance with me."
14But he said to him, "Man, who made me a judge or an arbitrator over you?"
15He said to them, "Beware! Keep yourselves from covetousness, for a man's life doesn't consist of the abundance of the things which he possesses."
16He spoke a parable to them, saying, "The ground of a certain rich man brought forth abundantly.
17He reasoned within himself, saying, 'What will I do, because I don't have room to store my crops?'
18He said, 'This is what I will do. I will pull down my barns, and build bigger ones, and there I will store all my grain and my goods.
19I will tell my soul, "Soul, you have many goods laid up for many years. Take your ease, eat, drink, be merry."'
20"But God said to him, 'You foolish one, tonight your soul is required of you. The things which you have prepared—whose will they be?'
21So is he who lays up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God."

All these verse have no connection to the fact that Enoch was not, for God took him.

You are just reinforcing my point that all men taste death and so physically die, whether its Enoch, Elijah, Philip, Moses etc no man is an exception to that rule.

Let me ask you another easy, simple, innocent, harmless, not intimidating and straightforward question, which is:
How were Moses and Elijah perceived by Jesus' three closest followers (i.e. Peter, James and John)? Was it in the form of a physical appearance or in form of a vision?
If Peter, James and John in their lives prior to that moment have never met either Moses and Elijah, how did they know and recognise them without any form of introduction?

That was the experience of the Kingdom that Jesus mentioned which you also quoted. They knew them as supernaturally as Jeus knew Zaccheus. This has nothing to do with Enoch and Elijah not dying BTW, except you want to make another branch of it.

Brah, please stop using the same God yardstick for measuring puny mortal human beings

Is Jesus, God or Jesus isnt God?
Is it within God's power to be in Heaven and on Earth at the same time? Need I say more? Need I continue?

Lol, so we should take others literally but we should not take Jesus literally. Brother, stop kidding please.

Genesis 2:7
'And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground,
and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life;
and man became a living soul.'

C'mon look at you talking this way.
Do human beings 100% obey every command of God?
Guess your answer will be No, and thats likely because you know that the art of snitching is all down to having the gift of freewill (i.e. freedom to do as you like)

Man, fundamentally is a soul, enrobed in a bodysuit or dust vestment

Lol, let me help you. It has nothing to do with human nature, it was simply the language employed. Jesus Himself told them to show themselves to men(the priests). So Him saying NO MAN does not mean NO MAN on earth.

It is the bodysuit, that makes a soul a man, makes a soul a human being. It is why our Lord and Saviour of the world, adopted the title Son of man, (i.e. male offspring of a human being)

John 3:9-13
'9Nicodemus said to Him, “How can these things be possible?”
10Jesus replied, “You are the [great and well-known] teacher of Israel, and yet you do not know nor understand these things [from Scripture]?
11I assure you and most solemnly say to you, we speak only of what we [absolutely] know and testify about what we have [actually] seen [as eyewitnesses]; and [still] you [reject our evidence and] do not accept our testimony.
12If I told you earthly things [that is, things that happen right here on earth] and you do not believe, how will you believe and trust Me if I tell you heavenly things?
13No one has gone up into heaven, but there is One who came down from heaven, the Son of Man [Himself--whose home is in heaven]'

Enoch had no state or quality of being divine, and so was not immortal. Meaning that Enoch died, his body returned to earth, his spirit returned back to God, while his soul is currently resting in Adam's bosom aka Paradise, awaiting Judgement Day, just as like every human being awaits that day.

Enoch and Elijah have a beginning, that's the difference. Angels and spirits/devils don't die BTW. That does not make them God. They all have a beginning. All those who will be alive and remain when Jesus comes will not see death too, i believe you remember this. They will also be change in a moment, just like Enoch and Elijah were. i'll leave it here, you are free to hang on to whatever you insist on. Enoch and Elijah cannot save anyone.