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MaxInDHouse:
Why not address his challenge if truly you're a Christian?
He condemned your faith, you're helpless only to show up as you often do for fruitless arguments.
Well i'll not allow you to disrupt the ongoing discussion, if you have something tangible to say, go ahead and face him directly.
I am one of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES and i'm defending my own faith before someone who asked a question relating to my faith.
That's what you should do not looking for means to argue hopelessly!

Did i lie?

AntiChristian:
Jesus never mentioned that from Matthew, Mark until John!

It doesn't matter, you MUST be born again.

HardMirror:
if this is your definition of christianity, then i was indeed a christian. so the aguement that i was not a christian is settled

Lol, you're not a Christian before maja until you are JW. Let me help you both cut the chase.

AntiChristian:
Before saying that he said "follow the commandments...."

It doesn't remove the fact that you must be born again.

Kobojunkie:
See excuse from someone who mentioned bride prices and then tried to insert God in-between. Wetin concern God with bride price?

You you read properly instead of assuming your usual truculence, you should have seen that i wasn't even standing for bride price as i quoted Eve's case. Nonetheless,
Joining takes place with consent of fiance and fiancee, the institution(s) they submit to, and finally stamped by body joining. All other excuses are deception.

Kobojunkie:
You need to make up your mind on whether you will process this according to traditional beliefs of those involved or according to God's Law and God's Law alone. YOU CANNOT and SHOULDN'T be trying to do both at the same time.

You are the one here trying to drag God into a situation where God is not at all mentioned. It is more than obvious from the story so far that tradition matters more to those involved than that which God says.

It's put in the religion section with the "pastor" tag.

This one that has eaten Nnamdi Kunu's shawarma. Rubbish.

Who paid Eve's bride price? When people lift their traditions above God's Word. Are you aware that it is women that pay dowry in some parts of India? People who don't fear or obey God are claiming right, gullible ones are backing them up.

1Co 6:16 KJV What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.

Joining takes place with consent of fiance and fiancee, the institution(s) they submit to, and finally stamped by body joining. All other excuses are deception.

LordReed:
Next time I will acknowledge so that it's clear.

Now to try and understand lemme illustrate, if I said "Christianity permits slavery" what would you think was the implication of that statement?

Time to run around to discuss Christianity and slavery. Then when he exposes your yeye illustration, you will make another illustration about God and lying spirits. Little Reed riding hood, stop playing snakey games.

Lollittaa:
[color=aqua]Image123 I hope you don't mind onojaford dating your busty 15 year old sister? [/color]

See you laughing heartily to an alleged adult dating a 15year old girl. Do you see the real sick person? Because it's a sister of one who tells you the bitter truth, you think it's somehow right and fun.
Like the OP says, "it is necessary for parents to carefully and diligently watch out for their kids so as to be able to give them the proper orientation and foundation about key issues like that of relationship and dating." My sister had enough sense, foundation, orientation and responsibility not to date adults when she/they were 15. They were not irresponsible 17year olds that their fathers sleep with them and their mother is just in the next room.

Tamarinda:
PLEASE DO NOT JUDGE ME SINCE YOU ARE NOT IN MY SHOES
After much deliberation and thoughts regarding the circumstances I have experienced in life, I have concluded it's better I trade something to SATAN.
I have heard people saying certain wealthy individuals traded something to achieve a certain level of wealth. For me, i just want to achieve my dreams and Ambition; a legacy.

I don't want all the money in the world! No! I don't want so much wealth, I just want to live a convenient life devoid of too much pain, hunger, abject suffering.

Before you say its vanity, it all ends on Earth and I will suffer in the afterlife, yes ! I have given it a good thought and i am prepared for that. The Yoruba says, "there is nothing bad in trying the household of two wives to know which is better".
I have dedicte and stayed long enough with God that answers no prayer, let me trade with Satan and see what I get.
The purpose of this thread is that I am looking for credible guidance on how to trade my soul to SATAN

Please do not judge me. I am making my own choices based on my circumstances. I don't know yours

Drop your pride and go and work hard. You don't need to pray to get money. Prayer is fellowship with God, walking and working with God. It is not a substitute for hardwork and diligence. If you sow, you will reap, even if you are satan the devil himself. Go and farm or do some labour, you would not need to beg or look for silly alternatives.

HardMirror:
lol. I like how you are having fun with him.
these guys are just not ready to be honest with themselves, what a dichotomy for a religion that claims to be based on the virtue of truth, yet the followers cannot be honest.
the will scream, Jesus heals!! ask them for proof, they begin to give excuses.
there is God! bring proof, they start giving excuses.

When does it matter for God to show up or "prove Himself". Your kid brother could not answer, maybe you can help him instead of fooling him. i have thrown a challenge to you to go to the next Kumuyi's programme this month if you are really looking for proof. Sitting in your bed asking God to prove Himself or else, you will kill yourself is not very wise. Go out and seek God, you will find Him like others do. Abi you no get money make dem raise you?

BassReeves:
Isaiah 57:1
'Good people pass away; the godly often die before their time.
But no one seems to care or wonder why.
No one seems to understand that God is protecting them from the evil to come.'

1. What specific death was Enoch taken away not to see?
2. So being translated, where exactly was Enoch and Elijah moved to? Was it heaven? Or it was another place on earth?

There is no Bible passage that says that Enoch died. Hebrews very specifically says he did not die, there is no contradiction there.
Gen 5:24  And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him. 
Heb 11:5  By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God. 
(GNB)  It was faith that kept Enoch from dying. Instead, he was taken up to God, and nobody could find him, because God had taken him up. The scripture says that before Enoch was taken up, he had pleased God.
(BBE)  By faith Enoch was taken up to heaven so that he did not see death; he was seen no longer, for God took him away: for before he was taken, witness had been given that he was well-pleasing to God:
(CEV)  Enoch had faith and did not die. He pleased God, and God took him up to heaven. That's why his body was never found.

Enoch was taken away for walking with God 300years. Enoch and Elijah were moved to a place where Moses is, where Abraham is. We see Elijah and Moses come to meet Jesus during the transfiguration, so apparently they are together. They are all where saints go when they die, conveniently called heaven, popularly called paradise or Abraham's bosom, the arms of Jesus, resting until the rapture when we shall all be changed. The point though is that the Bible clearly states that these two did not die.

Jesus Christ was talking in context and in a wider context rather than specifically of people that were alive and on earth. He emphatically was saying no man has not died. No man has not gone to heaven bar Him the One who has come from heaven

If you are emphatic about the verse literal meaning, maybe we should take it in that Jesus Himself was not on earth as the verse says He was in heaven, right? Or when He tells some people that He healed to tell NO MAN, it was literally no man. Of course men knew, the disciples and the priests knew for instance. Are they not men? In case that is still not enough for you, note that people who exit earth are no more mere men, else James would not say Elijah was a man. He would have said Elijah IS a man.

Jas 5:17  Elias was a man subject to like passions as we are, and he prayed earnestly that it might not rain: and it rained not on the earth by the space of three years and six months.

Lollittaa:
[color=coral]Shut up and disappear [/color]

You wish. i advise you to learn manners and desist from being uncouth. You attract the set you think to hate. Life has a smirking way of dishing things out.

The curious thing is that it's people with all the noise like you make that get deceived most. If we're all in school, i could almost bet onojaford deceiving you very quickly.

Lollittaa:
[color=dodgerblue]bloody perverts like Image123 and onojaford would have been having their arsses drilled in a prison, were this a sane country. [/color]

You really mean that you wish me to be in prison, being raped, by abominable same sex? This is sanity to you because i say a 17year old should not be irresponsible? That your heart, mummy GO ma, it needs salvation.

Pelecius:
Wow!

I'm not conversant with this scripture before. This just explains it all.
It's Romans 1v 18-22 and 28 that I was used to.

Established.

Rom 1:28 KJV And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

BassReeves:
Absolutely Philip died just as well as Enoch and Elijah did

John 3:13
'No one has ascended into heaven except the One who descended from heaven – the Son of Man.'

1. Where did God take Enoch to?
2. Why was Enoch teleported (i.e. taken away)? What is the reason behind why God teleported or took Enoch?
3. Is Jesus lying then when He declared that no one has ascend into heaven bar Him that came from heaven?

Heb 11:5 KJV By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.

Jesus Christ was talking in context of people that were alive and on earth, He being a man too at the time and projecting authority to speak about heaven.

Pelecius:
Lol
I noticed he ignored this your post just as he did with my response to his documentary. I believe he must have foreseen where it'd lead to, so he has to ignore them inorder to hold on to his dear belief.

Don't mind him.

2Th 2:10 KJV And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
2Th 2:11 KJV And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

Wishes abi? He has not done things to make the year happy na.

AntiChristian:
I no get ADHD. Na you get Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder.

I need not be born again. Jesus was a Muslim.

And i'm a Muslim just like his disciples.

Then stop jumping from post to post like a frog. Jesus Christ said you must be born again.

HardMirror:
I don't bother replying you specifically because you lack the mental capacity to talk to me. I am only replying now because the issues being discussed should be very basic for you to understand

Lol, comedian. Atheism of course translates to intelligence, i quickly forget due to Psalms 14v1, my bad.
You hate the truth.

HardMirror:
oh so he wanted them to exist and yet had to cut them off in such a gruesome manner

How do you prefer to die, Jesus Christ died on the cross. Wake up.

HardMirror:
more like think stupid. the so called dead baby, if god so much wanted them to be in a better place, what was the point of allowing them to be born into this "bad" place in the first place?

To exist, duh.

HardMirror:
of cause I want to hear you. Randi never claimed to be super human so him falling for his gay partner's lies is natural. that is what it is all about. being humble to accept you are just human. that is what religious people cannot do they claim to know it al, claim to have god living inside them, claims, claims, claims and claims they cannot substantiate. just like that fraud of a pastor that was exposed in the documentary.

You ignored the post na, showing that you didn't want to hear. Randi the deceiver being deceived by another deceived deceiver shows a sorry cycle. The funny irony of him trying to stop people from being deceived while being thoroughly deceived by his boyfriend for over 25 years. It moots his whole life. He's a victim of what he's allegedly saving others from. Jesus Christ is a better Savior, so no thanks.

HardMirror:
Judgement?
do you know babies died in the noah flood (if we are to accept the story as true?) what judgement is that?
do you know that your god asked isreal to kill innocent people and steal their lands and properties (same thing Fulani bandits are doing) and you call that judgement?

supporters of evil are evil people themselves. this is exactly why I say ALL Christians are evil minded people. if you gues can defend the atrocities of Moses, Joshua, David and the rest, yet think you are better than ISIS, Boko Haram and Fulani bandits, you guys are not serious at all

A dead baby is in a better place and will forever be with God compared to a fool that dies at 120. Think big.

Sin will bring anyone down.

AntiChristian:
Marvel not! I'm in no need of being born again. I believe in Allah, who needs no son nor helper to carry out any function.
He forgives whom He wills and is able to do all things.

What does your God need a son/helper for?

And "only begotten" is archaic. Recent translations uses "Unique" or "only" or "one and only".

You seem to suffer from ADHD.
Joh 3:7 KJV Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

HardMirror:
talking about majority.
majority of the world are POOR
majority of the world have average or below average IQ
majority of the world are selfish and wicked
majority of the world are just consumers contributing nothing to the betterment of the world.
majority of the world were pagans just a few thousand years back.

so talking about majority, majority are most often the stupid ones

majority believe that He exists, right?

HardMirror:
this seems to define you and your folks very accurately, you do not want to hear anything that contradicts your belief, you do not even bother examining the arguments and facts. I am 100% sure you did not even watch the video I posted here but rush to start blabbing and yet you make this quote that aptly describes you

Lol, we wey watch am nko? Do you want to hear us? Don't be an hypocrite.

AntiChristian:
To enter heaven and hell

The rich man's question was for eternal life! That answer is better than yours!

Joh 3:16 KJV For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Marvel not, you must be born again.

AntiChristian:
The Kingdom of God has both Heaven and Hell.

You must be born again.