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MuttleyLaff:
1) Mpho Andrea Tutu-van Furth (i.e. daughter of Archbishop Desmond Tutu)
2/ Gloria Carter (i.e. mum to Shawn Corey Carter aka professionally known as Jay-Z)
3 and 4/ Josh Canfield and Reed Kelly, a gay couple worship and sing in the choir at Hillsong New York and Josh Canfield is a volunteer choir director at same church.
5/ The Rev. Naomi Washington-Leapheart
6/ Pastor Yvette A. Flunder
7/ Karen Oliveto (i.e. first openly lesbian bishop to be elected in the United Methodist Church)
8/ Albert Nabonibo (i.e. well-known gospel singer in Rwanda)
9/ Pastor Albert Odulele
10/ Rev Jide Macaulay

Lol, while i asked little reed riding hood for the courtesy of playing the yeye game of foolery, the homosexual's Voltron showed up instead. You can sit down now sir, i called reed. Have the people on your list gone to Jesus for cure or they are loving the disease? This is part of what one gets when he jumps into a discuss without knowing or properly observing the context.

LordTheus:
Why the Bleep do you guys always feel the need to reverse the burden of proof?

You guys claim that everything that began to exist has a cause (Backwards causality already refutes this problematic premise but lets just go along with it for the sake of my next point).

You then state that there must be an uncaused cause (THIS IS WHERE WE LEAVE IT AT. IF WE ARRIVE AT THE CONCLUSION THAT THERE IS AN ULTIMATE CAUSAL AGENT, WE STILL HAVE NO WAY OF UNDERSTANDING THE TRUE NATURE OF THIS AGENT. THE UNCAUSED CAUSE COULD BE ANYTHING).

Since you are the proponents for an uncaused cause, don't you think the burden of proof should be on you to tell us how you got to know that this uncaused cause is the Christian deity?

After you prof. Why do you find it a "burden" to explain yourself, but find it easy and natural to demand from us?

LordReed:
I didn't know Jesus and the apostles were cured from homosexual orientation, tell me more. LMFAO!

Where did i say or suggest so? i asked you to look up to Jesus as a perfect example. Or at least, the apostles and beautiful Christians many people know, you went to pick scandals as your definition of excellence.

LordReed:
Where did I do so?

You're asking again. i asked you to name 10 prominent gay Christians.

LordReed:
Good evidence is evidence that points to a certain conclusion to the exclusion of all others. If you say you saw me kill someone but someone else reports a different person as the killer then we don't have good evidence yet, the evidence as to exclusively point to me as the killer.

Here was what i asked "Is that evidence good enough for me?"
It may not be good enough for you especially if it will hurt you, like the case of FG vs lekkiprotesters. If i witnessed you do it, do i need extra outer evidence?

kingxsamz:
Oh, it could be? So. You're not sure?
What if this Uncaused first cause is the Flying Spaghetti Monster?

And how did you arrive at the conclusion that it is a "He" ?

The Spaghetti should justify the position na, you cannot just dump power on Spaghetti like Goodluck Jonathan. Bring up the able and prepared God who says He is who He is (I am)

LordReed:
I asked questions, you replied with questions and are now saying I should answer your questions first?

You're reaping what you did for me na. Na so hell fire go be. i asked question, you replied with question and now said i should answer your question first.

kingxsamz:

This guy sha... I don't have a position on any of the two as it cannot be proven.
When you're ready to answer my question, let me know.

You are no different from the president who doesn't know the technology behind the video evidence, lol. You are becoming 'smart' from being a baby atheist though, you saw the checkmate in front. Welcome to the criminal life of the atheist.

Bacteriologist:
It's like creating a rule and when the rule works against one, he says "No, it shouldn't apply to me. I created it." lol

All rules cannot apply to everyone. E.g there are rules for foreigners that don't apply to locals or citizens. Are you okay with that, or it's unfair and unreasonable?

kingxsamz:
Running away as expected.
when you're ready to answer ny question, let me know.

Lol @d hypocrite. When you do same, it's not running away, is it?

Bacteriologist:
I know he does! just trying to play along with im perhaps he can see how using the Kalam's argument is him shooting himself in the foot in what would be a theological suicide

Since all gods and even the more ridiculous ones can be proven using the Kalam's argument. I want to know how he came to the conclusion that his own Jewish imaginary daddy behind the clouds is the actual one...lmfao! This is so easy and fun

How did you come to the conclusion that God is not the actual one?

kingxsamz:
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And so?
Why should only your god be acknowledged?
Other people's gods need to be acknowledged also. It's freedom of religion. Your religion doesn't supercede others.

How would it not supersede or the word "supersede" changed in meaning? Are you not confused? You support democracy because one party is MORE than the other, one rules the other should not. The Christian religion in the US is over 65% of the adult population. That's far more than the number of people that voted in the potus. But on your terms, no winner, no superseding. Hypocrite.

LordReed:
How about not believing until you have good evidence to know if something is actually true or false.

What is good evidence? If i see you kill someone, is that evidence good enough for me?

SultanOfPuna:
Devil's rebellion from heaven happened before the 7 days creation by God

But according to the bible
During Satan's rebellion in heaven
God casted devil down to Earth.

So how did God cast devil to Earth
When God has not even created Earth yet.
Because the rebellion happened before the creation.

Can anyone explain this?

So many assumptions and untruths with a tiny truth here and there. SMH. What would you need the info for anyway? You will repent on knowing this or what?

kingxsamz:
It's always been a scam... White Jesus, white god, white angels and all that white crap.
Who made it a fact that black is evil?

It's simple SYMBOL. White depicts purity and peace. Like red can be danger or caution, or green can be OK, or approved. Nothing to be uptight about in it.

kingxsamz:
You mean the same way Christians in the north can't protect themselves against Bokoharam terrorists that are killing them?

Persecution is well documented in the Bible. But christianity overcomes overall. You see true persecution producing more faith, resilience and converts. It is different from eradicating and selling off your very gods. Nepa light and Sunlight are not the same just because they are both light. Look closely.

kingxsamz:
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Some clowns will come here and say it's grace, when he clearly doesn't believe in a god.
Meanwhile, while Elon Musk is making huge impact in the world, some group of clowns are hell bent on the world ending so that they can fly into the sky and wear white robes all their life.

Don't mind the clowns indeed. The grace of God is not for making money or becoming rich like some people are pressured to preach.

davien:
Are you daft or can't read? Or you've been inhaling "incense" strongly?

Its not rocket science that it's the Pentateuch, so again, what is the significance of the Torah to your super edited Bible?

Historians say 5 to atleast 1 author(s) for the Torah as compared to the 10+ authors and their retranslations from unknown sources.

The fact that you can accept 10+ writers into your faith along with the 5 to 1 from the Torah but refuse to learn basic science in the 21st century is a failure on your part not on anyone else.

Sincerely, you failed to make sense. Try breathing or better yet, stay to the subject matter.

artofphil:
Replied someone else above
Will paste here:


Seeing as this tendency to lust over the same sex has happened for all of human history across separate isolated communities, where do you think the source of this behaviour comes from

I'm tempted to believe it's intrinsically tied to our human nature. And you get a percentage of homos vs heteros. Again this occured in communities that never interacted with one another.

If we can agree that this stems from natural causes, i.e genes and the human condition, how can we even begin to regard it has unnatural?

You came late bros. We left that chapter since, read through maybe. The summary is simple, all have sinned and come short of God's glory. Sin is natural, that's the point of being born again in the first place.

artofphil:
Wonderful isn't it

What would we do without them

Who knows, the world would literally end.

artofphil:
I tried repentance, wasn't as enlightening as links. I'll stick to links

Yh I found no holes sadly, if I was gay I could have dug another man's hole, but here we are.

Keep searching or try harder.

artofphil:
Homosexuality allowed for less males going off to fight and die in wars, allowed them to help the raising of children rather than contributing to possible over populations

Ladies and gentlemen, here are the comic advantages of homosexuality in the society in case you ever wondered.

artofphil:
But why does God inflict them with homosexuality in the first place

Did He? Tell us about it already.

artofphil:
I pray the God that deleted S and G can delete our homosexual communities in today's society.
I'm curious why he doesn't
God please, hundreds of thousands of children die each day from poverty but please kill gays instead of helping these kids

It's sad that hearing about homosexuality causes so much pain and suffering to you and society, I can only imagine how much more pain and suffering those that get disowned and ostracized for being gay get to experience.
Apparently it causes some other people pain knowing that men like women.

I'm curious about the increase in crime, can you please send me a link

You need repentance not links. Apparently, you found no holes to dig. Keep searching.

hahn:
Long post. No sense.

How can it make sense to hahn? Has reasoning started making sense to hahn? Only antigod makes sense of course. Pick that post and reasonably tear it down per sentence at the risk of a brain meltdown.

LordReed:
High profile means stuff about them is visible to the public and can be more easily verified. Don't tell me about one Ajala on your street or one Chinedu you met somewhere. So go ahead mention 50 "high profile" formerly gay christians.

Can't do without being the snake you are, right? Play the yeye game of foolery properly, you can read. Name 10 "high profile" (whatever that means) gay Christians and i will name 50 known respectable Christians for every 10.

LordReed:
If a purported excellent student in physics fails his physics exam should we not question his excellence? LMFAO! You claim your Jesus magic cures gays when it fails to do so spectacularly you say we should look away. Bwahahahahaha!

And who is the purported excellent student when we have Jesus and the apostles? What should we call those ones? Why should we turn blind eye to them and have fits on purported excellent students?

LordReed:
Quite a bit actually and is one of the underpinnings of why I don't believe a god as you describe exists.

Since you have, you should not be shocked or befuddled in any way at the ease in which hell is realistically accomplishable.

davien:
I asked you a question, what is the torah to your super edited Bible?

You're not making much sense to the matter on ground. The written Torah is in the Bible usually called the Pentateuch. It seems you are eager to open a topic that leads nowhere. This one is about skeletons and 67million years without touch. No touch dating 2020.

The real Money Heist is made in Nigeria.

Yankee101:
Where are the people who were praying and fasting for trump but can't pick up a prayer point for nigeria?

We are here, fully on ground. i am just about to start my own prayers. We were delayed among the angels from Africa sir.

Make i come go mountain. Trump must win, lol