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Janosky:
Bros, for your mind you think say you get SENSE?
Did John 4:24 tell you God is holy spirit?

@ Luke 11:13, did the heavenly Father give himself "to them that ask him"?
Did the heavenly Father give God "to them that ask him ?

Cc, The same question for Image123

Bros JohnW, please STOP DECEIVING yourself.
Worse still, STOP misquoting the holy scriptures.

Elder Jano, You forgot to answer my question. Let's take it one step at a time. Let me help you with it again below.

Image123:
Does a finger speak? Do you lie to fingers. So when God says a man is His battle axe, the man is no longer living?

Do and next governor will undo it. That's Nigerian politics for you.

Judybash93:
Well, he rose and ascended into heaven sir... You are misguided by Christianity which actually is a religion that came from the combination of various pagan beliefs. All hail Krishna. Btw, i have a personal and living relationship with Krishna.

You conveniently forget that you are an atheist, what a miracle. Get serious and factual with life. i have lived with hindus, perhaps the atheist judy knows their gods better than them.

kingxsamz:
Clowns hoping to become wealthy in their imaginary heaven will come here and call it vanity.

You're the big clown here brother, because the wealthy guys in the OP are theists.

kingxsamz:

If you believe that your god wants you to be patient, it sees your heart and that it has a plan for you, then stop praying. It's as simple as that.
These are the same clowns praying for Trump's reelection.

You forgot the same God says we should pray, i guess the devourer has devoured that portion of your brain. Are you deceived to think the millions of people supporting, voting for and praying for Biden are all atheists and non-christians?

MuttleyLaff:
I will help out here. Yep, finger(s) speak. Even woman bacca, sef too dey speak. Eyes dey speak sef join.

He's not a boy or kid na, let him help himself. Who knows, he might be a Jwickedness elder.

LordReed:
What you need to get through your homophobic head is that there is nothing hideous about being gay. It is as natural as eating and needs no cure or Jesus magic.

i don't fear homos, i pity them. Being an homo is as natural as being a liar, a thief, a fornicator etc They are all curable at the feet of calvary and people have been cured. Even naturally like you affirmed, the vile act can be subdued. What you have to get through that snake head of yours is that you don't have to be a homo BECAUSE animals do it.

LordReed:
What is clear is that disease does not discriminate between hetero or homo and that the increased rates in the homosexual community continues to be because of risky behaviour which is also found in heterosexual community. So if disease is the harm you are calling out homosexuals for then you just axed the heterosexual community as well.

The numbers and the percentages are irrelevant right? There is no harm right? All the mental and physical issues mentioned are all advantages right?

MuttleyLaff:
Image123, looks like you it's you who danced reggae around where I typed answering your question with:

"... there are all kinds of prostitutes, lmso, political prostitutes, careerist prostitutes et cetera. Now, here is the point, lmso, at any time, any person, who willingly uses his/her talent, any part of his/her body, uses gained opportunity or uses his/her ability, amorous ability or not, in a base and unworthy way, usually for money, fame, fortune, position, leverage is a prostitute.

If prostitutes and/or pretend prostitute(s), are in the genealogy of Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, then I have no qualms with considering such kind of prostitutes being OK. Have you thought about prophet Hosea, lmso, hmm?[/I]"

I never typed or suggested anything of [i]"prostitution is not a fruit of the Spirit etc" that is you again, dishonestly and/or unfairly saying what I never said.

What I correctly typed was: "People sleeping around with different people are not displaying the fruit of the Spirit, which as evident in Galatians 5:22-23 is:
love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, humility, endurance, gentleness and self-control."

Two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or even, not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour, who love each other, enjoy each other’s company, are mutually respectful to each other, mutually supportive to each other, and all that and more, sometimes without sex necessarily being the leading or most important thing for them do not do sleeping around with different people. They faithful, committed and loyal to each other.

Here is the question yet again Muttley. Try giving a short and straightforward answer this time. It's easy to comprehend that way.

Do you consider it okay to be a prostitute if you are not prostituting for a temple cause? Also, are you of the opinion that God has no problem with people sleeping around with different people that they are not married to, asides temple matters?

LordReed:
According to you being "cured" of drinking means drinking is unnatural. LMFAO! Can you see how ass-backward that idea is?

How do you arrive at such assumption despite the kindergarten explanation i have repeatedly given you that sin is natural to every man but never an excuse for any man?

LordReed:
Did it occur to you that if there were only gays and lesbians they'd still be having children? Put on your thinking hat I know you can do it. LoL.

How mr. thinker? By looking for an outside donor of another gender. Two zero homos will produce zero, duh

LordReed:
So the gay sperm donor is not the biological father of a child? The lesbian egg donor is not the biological mother of the child? What a laugh. If DNA testing is done whose genes do you suppose it will reveal as the father or mother in either scenario?

You are being deliberately thick, i really pity those who don't see through you. Is the donor the homo couple under discussion? The homo couple clearly cannot produce one child without help, spin it till you unscrew a nut in your head. It remains the fact.

Judybash93:
Yes sir. Krishna died and rose from the dead after three days and this happened long before the birth of Christ, so, i think if we're to believe in any of them, it should be Krishna. He healed the sick, made really intelligent quotes and is my lord and saviour.

You definitely have not done your due diligence. Is it the same Krishna that was mistakenly shot to death by a hunter? i guess some atheists told you some fables and you took it by faith eehya.

As for Jesus Christ, we have a living relationship with Him, because He saved us from sin and many other things, and because it is simply the best and sustainable way to live. Most real Hindus don't even consider Krishna as top.

Janosky:
In Greek , holy spirit is a neuter.
Your Bibles, (KJV, Byington etc) correctly says holy spirit is "it/itself", but una shift the goal post in John 15:26

In your Bible, Death stings. Is it (death) an animal ?

In your Bible, Wisdom has children.
Bros, who give am belle ?

Every day Radio news headline summary tells you " the Newspaper said", that newspaper na human being?


You are Filled with food
You are Filled with wine
You are Filled with holy spirit,
Bros use your brain.

You forgot to answer my question. Let's take it one step at a time.

Janosky:
Holy spirit is the finger of God.
So, your finger is a he, a living being distinct from you.
For your mind you go dey claim say you get SENSE

Selective amnesia worries most of you. Does a finger speak? Do you lie to fingers. So when God says a man is His battle axe, the man is no longer living?

Lol @above.

Judybash93:
I thought that was Krishna

Wrong thoughts, do your due diligence

kingxsamz:
This is proof that you only serve your imaginary god because you're a scared little rat, scared of being thrown into an imaginary furnace no one has ever seen before.

You should be, any sane person should be scared of being thrown into fire for 1minute even. However, that's not why people serve or believe in God. We do it because we have a living relationship with Him, because He saved us from sin and many other things, and because it is simply the best and sustainable way to live.

MuttleyLaff:
"Ah o ma se ooo", loosely translated means "Aw, what a pity" Prostitution is not called the oldest profession for no good reason, lmso.

You havent realised that: "Gbogbo wa lole... Ẹni ilẹ mọ ba, ni barawo" which when loosely translated means "We're all born thieves, but someone the one caught at the crack of dawn, with hand stuck in the cookie jar, is a hardcore armed robber"

Alternatively "All we una, be scammers, na the one wey EFCC catch, be Yahoo, Yahoo convict"

Image123, fyi, there are all kinds of prostitutes, lmso, political prostitutes, careerist prostitutes et cetera. Now, here is the point, lmso, at any time, any person, who willingly uses his/her talent, any part of his/her body, uses gained opportunity or uses his/her ability, amorous ability or not, in a base and unworthy way, usually for money, fame, fortune, position, leverage is a prostitute.

If prostitutes and/or pretend prostitute(s), are in the genealogy of Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, then I have no qualms with considering such kind of prostitutes being OK Have you thought about prophet Hosea, lmso, hmm?

People sleeping around with different people are not displaying the fruit of the Spirit, which as evident in Galatians 5:22-23 is:
love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, humility, endurance, gentleness and self-control.

Image123, I am sure that you would agree that one possibly cannot manifest the fruit of the spirit without the assistance of God’s Holy Spirit, lmso. Except if you really don't know what the gospel is, I am also, sure that you would agree that God accepts everyone that manifests the fruit of the spirit, which is: "kindness, loyalty, caring, trusting, loving, faithfulness et cetera.

You speak a lot of words for such a simple question. Can you provide clarity instead of irony and misunderstanding?
All of us are prostitutes, there are all kinds of prostitutes, prostitutes are in Jesus genealogy, prostitution is not a fruit of the Spirit etc. These are not clear or straightforward answers to the question. You my good friend are dancing reggae here.

MuttleyLaff:
The wicked are afraid of everything (e.g. ban) even though no one is pursuing them, lmso (i.e. Proverbs 28:1)

In my case, i have been hounded with unfounded and unexplained bans, the wicked is elsewhere.

You butchered my post, quoted the post out of context, by shortening the post and leaving out the full surrounding words and/or sentences, all in your determination to distort my original account and give a false impression of what I clearly articulated and you know it

It is nice to see that, you've at least, reached a conclusion, that I am peddling a half truth, and so since you revealed that I am peddling a half truth, then please, I am intrigued, please kindly point out what exactly is the half truth, you caught on in my post(s)?

i have no idea of what you are talking about. The half truth though was that the word "homosexuality" didn't appear like you stated. The other half is that the word "homosexuality" didn't exist, so how on earth will it appear? According to merriam Webster, first known use is 1891(92). First known use of "gay" as homo is 1953. So why should the words appear before they were in existence? You brought up a half truth to needlessly confuse us.

That the word "homosexual" does not appear as an English word until circa 1954, is just scratching an exposed surface tip of a submerged colossal iceberg, when we havent even got to start scratching any of the underneath submerged colossal body yet of the iceberg, lmso.

Let me clear you again with what the fact, truth and point was. It is about the dishonesty of the English bible translators and with their increasing frequency, of taking liberties of inserting invented words that where originally absent in the Bible, like homosexual for example and thus using such words as a weaponised words to demonise, oppress, discriminate, vilify, marginalise, ostracise, bully, ridicule et cetera, same sex attraction couples in loving, romantic, committed, faithful, monogamous relationships, in addition of making the Bible says things with such invented words, that the Bible does not originally say and never said.

This is very funny, really. Kindly educate us on the previous word(s) used in the Bible passages and the meaning. You can help us with your source too. At least if you are willing to go to every length to help the homos, you should be able to lend a little help to your brother me.

You are so biblically uninformed, lmso. Same sex attraction is as ancient as biblical antiquity, lmso

Sin is more ancient than Adam, not to mention the first Bible verse penned. Being ancient is not a virtue, is it?

MaxInDHouse:
Just present the GROUP worshipping the true God, those who failed to maintain their position(path) within such a GROUP will know in their hearts that salvation is not possible for them, Period! Matthew 7:13-14 compared to Psalms 1:1; Isaiah 35:8

It is the JWickedness. Now that we all know, can you go ahead and sell Awake to us?

MuttleyLaff:
I am letting you know that there is no evil or disaster expected to come from two God believing, that have accepted Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour, homo consenting adults, enjoying having a lifetime until death do part them, loving each other, faithful, kind, caring, committed monogamous homosexual relationship, with no evil or harm done to each other, children, neighbour and environment, but displaying the fruit of the Holy Spirit, as is expected to happen from any other children of God to do

You still havent replied to my earlier question to you about, is there any justifiable reason for opposing and be against two gay people who love each other huh?

What beef image123, do you have against consenting adults who are breaking no laws and harming no one huh? What commandment does homosexuality violate? Why would you see, an act of love, as evil?

Or are you trying to tell me that the act of your hatred against the love of two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or even, not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour, who love each other, enjoy each other’s company, are mutually respectful to each other, mutually supportive to each other, and all that and more, sometimes without sex necessarily being the leading or most important thing for them, is good, ni?

i don't recall mentioning a disaster brother. i straightly point out that it is a sin, like so many other sins. Nobody can accept Jesus and be a homo. It is like accepting Jesus and being a robber. Repentance from sin is critical to accepting Jesus. Two people that love each other but are not married to each other but to another, and two homos that love each other are both sinners. One is adultery, the other is homosexuality. An act of love that violates God's Word, breaks His laws, hurt the majority of family members and church members, hurt one another with syphilis and co, it's quite a selfish kind of love.
i have no hatred for the sinners, i have 100% hatred for their sins.

LordReed:
Also from the CDC site:


Are these not exactly the same advice the heterosexual community receives with regard to disease prevention?

You claim it is natural and harmless, one says physically harmless. So i simply show you how very much greater the percentage and statistics difference is. All men face health issues and risks, but the difference is very clear and stated for the homos.

LordReed:
This is like asking me can sexual appetities be cured? No they cannot however many forms of ascetics hold them off or repress them. Anyone claiming a cure is either going to be exhibiting self control or repression. There is no Jesus magic that will remove sexual feelings, hetero or otherwise.

Lol, sexual feelings that were not even in some until they entered prison. While we all have our different tempting tendencies, they don't all remain the same. There are people who have been cured of appetites like masturbation, pornography, homosexuality, orgies, drinking, robbery etc. Jesus cures them all. And of course, like you admitted, many of these things can be naturally repressed, isolated, paralyzed and quashed.

LordReed:
Again a pointless argument since gay and lesbian couples are having biological children.

This is madness, lesbian or gay couples cannot have biological children. They need a donor from the opposite gender, duh. One woman's eggs are mixed in a lab dish with donor sperm, then implanted in the other woman. That's the closest they can get. Like i keep saying, they continue to need help.

LordReed:
The natural like animals is your argument not mine. We have natural instincts and drives, we have learnt to organise ourselves better than animals do, it in no way implies we must cease doing natural things because animals do them also. Homosexual orientation is natural and does not require any kind of cure or resistance, aside from the organisation we have made in our societies. Get that through your feeble mind.

What you need to get through to darkened mind is that homosexuality is a disease as natural as any sin that can be cured. All humans are born in sin and that is clearly taught in the Bible. The argument has been clear, we don't behave simply because animals do so or simply because it is natural to us.
Some people's natural drive is to cheat others, or be clever in a evil way, or to deceive, or to get angry, or to get angry and throw tantrums, or to be amorous and immoral, or to sleep with same sex. They are called temptations. You don't have to fall into them. You can have continuous and permanent victory and cure over temptation by the power of God. Including the temptation to be an hideous gay.

LordReed:
Does it not occur to you that as things stand any scenario in which the entire male or female population is removed will be catastrophic regardless of the sexual orientation of the remainder? Think things through abeg.

Did it occur to you that a scenario where heterosexuals are left and homosexuals removed will be catastrophic? Does it occur to you that we should not disregard the sexual orientation as that is the primary thing we are discussing? Think please.

LordReed:
First what does it matter if they need egg or sperm, the child is still biologically theirs. Secondly, techniques are being developed to bypass that need. When that happens I'm sure you'll come out with some other stupìd reason why there'll be a gay apocalypse.

The producers of the sperm and egg are the biological parents of any child. That's the result of DNA testing to prove biological parenthood, yes? Two gay men have no egg, they need to get from a woman. Two lesbians have no sperm, or do they? They need to get from another human being, a man.
The point is that being gay is not the natural human way and will lead to a stop of reproduction. They clearly need help, that's the point, not all the fable you are spewing. You were talking deleterious mumbo jumbo, remember?

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LordReed:
LoL! What a rubbish argument. There were parents who refused to agree with their children's choice of occupation eg football, comedian, musician etc did that make those occupations harmful? You bring some particularly useless arguments which shows you are not thinking things through, just flailing about like a drowning man grasping straws.

Wait until your mum lands in a hospital for you coming out as gay, you will know who is truly thinking things through in the two of us.
It is so common sense, but since you ask for the scientific to prove the obvious, let me give you a tip. i expect you will not misuse and dismiss it


All men face certain health risks. However, gay men and men who have sex with men have some specific health concerns.

From Mayoclinic

Also from the US CDC. They have different works on similar issues too. No harm to no one indeed. Muttley, you're copied too.

Gay and bisexual men are experiencing rates of syphilis not seen since before the HIV epidemic. Between 2017 and 2018, 54% of primary and secondary (P&S) syphilis cases were among gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men, and data suggest that almost half (42%) of gay and bisexual men who have syphilis also are infected with HIV.

Heathen777:
I think you misunderstand the meaning of harm, just because get offended or get emotionally hurt, doesn't equate to being harmed.


harm
/hɑːm/
noun
physical injury, especially that which is deliberately inflicted.
"I didn't mean to cause him any harm"

verb
physically injure.
"the villains didn't harm him"



In that case, the problem is homophobia, not homosexuality. It is not my fault that anyone decides to be homophobic.

Lol, see you conveniently lying to yourself. Harm is not hurt, lol. You are kidding. Buy a complete dictionary or buy data, it seems your data finished and your page didn't completely load the meaning of "harm". So it didn't occur to you that harm can be mental? Na wa oh. The government has totally finished education in Nigeria sha

LordReed:
What has that got to do with the discussion at hand?

Everything, and your snaky self knows it but you choose to play to the gallery. Let me break it down to the gallery.

-Can homosexuality be cured?
-If you are presented with testimonies of people who say they were cured by Jesus, you would accept it, right?