₦airaland Forum

dalaman:
Is killing other people for worshiping other Gods justice? Is sexism good? What about slavery? Is it a good thing?

You are mixing issues and largely out of context. Worshipping other gods by who and in what context? What is sexism or stereotyping or discrimination. Are you aware of the FACT that the male is different from the female? Are we discriminating by having different toilets and restrooms. Are you the man in/of your house or both of you? Is that discrimination? What is slavery, and in what context does the Bible support it? These are some of the context in which you should elaborate before making blanket statements.

dalaman:
Not true. God himself claims he is jealous in some parts of the bible. He also says he is a God of war and vengeance in some other parts. Are these good qualities? The nature of God as portrayed in the bible is haphazard and inconsistent. The bible has God clearly admitting that he did evil and apologized for the evil he did.

"If ye will still abide in this land, then will I build you, and not pull you down, and I will plant you, and not pluck you up: for I repent me of the evil that I have done unto you.Jeremiah 42:10"


If God whose nature is only good will be incapable of doing evil. No matter how you look at it, the bible doesn't support the picture of God you are trying to paint and sell.

Of course it is necessary that God is jealous in the context He claims to be. Truth has to be exclusive, and exclusivity demands that one be 'biased' to a particular view. Every other view becomes wrong in that context. You cannot serve God and other gods. 2+2 has to be 4. 4 retains the right to be jealous when you bring up another figure, because the truth is 4. The jealousy God is against is vain envy, not being content with your position or possession because you are coveting another person's position or possession. That is a wrong jealousy and the Bible tells us not to be. But you are 'jealous' and rightly so over your wife or husband, or children, or position. If you are the head or master of a place or office or establishment, and someone else is taking your place, of course you correct things, because it is yours. It is different from seeing somebody else's car or bank account or cloths and wanting to take it from them or becoming unhappy about it. Get the context right please. Children of God belong to God and have a covenant with God, and God will very well jealously guard that agreement and redemption and possession.
God is a God of war and vengeance because He is Judge/law enforcement. Law enforcement is not child's play. It sometimes requires force, constraints, detention. These are not actions taken on lawful citizens or everybody but on offenders and defaulters and they have to be done. Justice is an essential and critical part of the human society, we are not animals. Punishment is not good, prison is not good, but these are necessary. The justice departments have to confine people, deny them of freedom and of access, and sometimes carry out capital punishment. That is justice and these are not exciting or joyful things to do. i do not like that any human being go to prison or be denied anything or fail an exam/test for instance. But these things have to happen. A lazy student will likely fail, even though the F grade is not good, and prison is not good. In the same vein, God realizes and sort of regrets these things. He is not sadistic about punishing people but there has to be justice and fairness, and a reaping of what you sow. So when you quote Jeremiah 42, read and know the full context, then ask questions. The children of Israel sinned severally and offended God for decades, and then God punished them. But He was not happy that He punished them, it is as straight as that in summary.

authenticated:
Is a shame to nigerian journalists that they can't carryout such press conference in the country. How many nigerians will listen or watch this interview. Is he speaking to the citizens of uk and few nigerians in tthe diaspora. Or he should be speaking to we nigerians and the s.'s. I don't really know what is so special about this so called chatham house that Apc and their bunch of thugs won't let someone rest.

Fayose, President Jonathan, Okupe and co are all watching intently and with great sorrow. The chief cause of sorrow is that they want president Jonathan to go to Chatham too, but that is like suicide.

NoreenUG:
Buhari just said "Nigeria can make a 160 degree turn". As in "one hundred and sixty".
chai. truly truly, this man failed maths.

You hear what you want to hear. But come to think of it, 160 degrees u-turn is great.

aguiyi:
this is the scam of the decade. online audience is what this old hag left Nigeria to go meet in the UK, shame on APC

Eeyah, you need exposure. Do yourself a favor and research about the Chatham house and people who have spoken there. Wikipedia sef is still free online i guess.

babestella:
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Another sensible nigerian on Nairaland. @image123, if unemployment is high people should go and learn a skill. Buhari and his co-travelers cannot provide jobs for anyone. They just want to grab power and that's all.

And you know this for fact how?

aminashy:
Lie liar lia witchcraft party?



Buhari is a terrorist
Apc is boko haram
Thiefnu.bu is a pedophile and a cocain sniffer

Buhari can only be president in sambisa and shekau would hand over to him.

This one is likely one of those Sure-p jobs the government is claiming to have provided. What tangible difference between this fellow and those programmed female suicide bombers?

Eluwilussit:
Where have you been all these years? Apart from the insurgency in the NE, Jonathan has done better than all the vagabonds before him. Bubari made it clear to us that the attack on Boko Haram was an attack on the North. He and the northern elders sabotaged the FG with their positions on BH. Jona had to tread warily to avoid a religious and ethnic war. Wise move.

If time were to be a measure of the relevance or otherwise, of academic qualifications, then why keep record? Record is there for times like this. If I need a degree to work in an ordinary bank, why should anyone be able to rule nigeria with FSLC or WASC? That's unacceptable. We need to change that.

Tell me what Buhari achieved in 20 months except jailing mostly politicians from the south, while letting the very corrupt northern politicians escape? I don't know how old you are but I was in high school in Buhari's first coming. I witnessed the torturous times.

Our system needs to be changed before corruption will be tackled. A system that allows easy access to our treasury by anyone is a weak system. There are too many middlemen/agencies around the system. Take the cash away and there wil not be anything to steal.

Jonathan didn't create this system. He inherited it. Most of the beneficiaries of the system are still Buhari's kinsmen. That's why they have vehemently opposed any idea about restructuring the system. We need a true federalism or confedralism. This unitary system is the bane of the corruption.

Buhari was quick to go on a fact finding mission in the Western Nigeria when a bunch of Fulani herdsmen were killed in the west but kept mum, when thousands of Christians and southerner were butchered.

Guy, I am tired of recounting Buharis crimes. The man is simply indefensible. Give it up.

President Jonathan himself informed us that Boko haram are his family, that they are in his government and cabinet, that their actions are mere excesses, that terrorism is a normal thing, and that boko haram activities are only in the fringes of Nigeria. I do not condone the insecurity, the massive unemployment, the present fallen economy and devaluation of the naira, the no electricity and the impunity of corruption bedeviling the country. This administration has

They no get better phone abi better megapixel camera for London? All the pictures sef.

dalaman:
I asked you a simple question, you keep claiming that God is good by nature. I just showed you one of his actions according to the bible and asked you if you consider that to be good. A simple yes or no will do instead of all this diversionary action you are trying to engage in.

Those are not diversionary actions but straight questions you refuse to answer. Your question required them for you to understand the answer. It you insist, what God did is good, yes. There has to be checks and balances, and punishment for wrong doing. God is the Judge in charge. Is judgment and justice good, yes.

dalaman:
Even by the biblical standard God seems to be unstable and hypocritical. He tells people not to commit murder in as a commandment and the next minute he is telling the same people to go annihilate another group of people. He also tells people to be humble while he himself claims to be jealous, vicious and a consuming and raging fire. He tells people to love each other, be forgiving and do away with jealousy while he himself proudly says that he is jealous, visits the wrong doings on parents on their kids(where is the forgiveness). The nature of God as portrayed in the bible is all over the place. More like a schizophrenic personality that does everything. He stands for nothing because he is just all over the place.

The nature of God portrayed in the bible is good and consistent, what you lack is perspective. The Judge or law enforcement can do things that civilians and co cannot and should not do.

Eluwilussit:
Buhari participated in a coup that overthrew a democratically elected govt in 1983. He jailed nigerians indiscriminately. Ruled by decrees that suppressed us. He gagged the press and proscribed every form of unionism and activism. It is abnormal to mention his name when we talk about democracy.

In our own case, where we have been besotted by coups and counter coups, we should not encourage our military to become irresponsible and undisciplined by rewarding former coupists with our presidency.

So you think if Buhari has his certs, that APC wouldn't have presented them? They faked an interview pic, forged certificate, with or without Buhari's consent, what wouldn't they do?

If at 73, he's the change you want, for pete's sake, go for it. Buhari doesn't cut it for me. I have tried to rationalize the whole Buhari stuff, nothing. Buhari is simply a bad market.

No problem. Good governance is what i want and celebrate, not democracy or military. Shagari didn't give good governance, neither has Jonathan. INEC is satisfied with Buhari's academic results presented and so are many Nigerians. A result obtained or not obtained about 54yrs ago cannot be an issue compared to the insecurity, the massive unemployment, the fallen economy and devaluation of the naira, the no electricity and the impunity of corruption bedeviling the country.

Ahmeduana:
MAKE UNA SEE OOO! ANOTHER FRAUD ON THE LOOSE!

It is the Jonathan administration fault. They have condoned and encourage and celebrate corruption. A philosophy that says if you put goat and yam together, the goat will eat, and that they would not punish corrupt people because no one will remain. Then they go gnashing teeth to the international community to help them fight illegal oil bunkering by not buying oil from thieves.

Eluwilussit:
So from 1961 when he joined the military to 1985 when he was booted out is 20 months? A leopard can't change its spots. That's why Obadanjo was quick to raze down Odi and Zaki Biam. We don't need a man who joined the army with a letter, while his mates had to have wasc. Buhari is the least, among our rulers.

What did Buhari achieve for himself in the last 29 years? What has he ever achieved without quota? A man who can't survive on his own, even with all the privileges he has enjoyed is not fit to rule a village not to talk of nigeria. Buhari is a failure. Read why he was kicked out the first time...

Oh, in that case, you are implying that EVERY military man is not fit to talk about democracy. That is a most ridiculous position to take. Democracy is a government by the people, wait for the polls patiently. What do you want Buhari to achieve for himself that he hasn't? A man who has at least 12 million people wanting him to lead them is no failure, where did you pull out your criteria from?

linuxuser:
So please tell us Tinubu, Atiku, Lie Mohammed, Amaechi are saints. Is it sad too that Coupist Buhari is being sponsored and sorrounded by these rogue elements?

If it helps you, they are at worst better and smarter thieves compared to surrounding yourself with convicted criminals and prisoners like Fayose, Fani Kayode, Alamesia and Bode George. The people you mentioned have not been caught and every allegations remain mere allegations. The law is very clear except you are one of the unruly, garrulous juveniles we're looking for as scapegoat, a person remains innocent until proven guilty.

Eluwilussit:
The title of his lecture is an insult to democracy, Nigeria and Africa. This is pure hypocrisy, given his past. Buhari is not qualified to talk about democracy.

nnachukz:
APC and their deceit. Somebody that truncated democracy now giving lecture on consolidating Democracy. What does he know about democracy?

Lol, Buhari has been practicing democracy for at least two decades now. He has been democratically elected to run for president in four different political parties and has followed all the democratic process and protocols than any other candidate. The Nigerian law and constitution qualifies him, so who are you to disqualify him? The real hypocrisy is to mischievously pick 20 months only out of over 70yrs of a life to draw conclusions. If president Jonathan is not fit or competent enough to talk at Chatham house where real leaders talk, abeg allow Buhari to do us proud again. Nigeria has been too silent and morose looking on the international community despite always moving in carnival mode with the most delegates at all occasions. Let Buhari lead and show how it is done.

Forget that man called FFK, see him running mouth against GEJ earlier and praising Ameachi.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1zzYbtGCyn4&itct=CDcQpDAYACITCJLu5OuX_sMCFdGdHAodFBEB_1IUQlJFQUtJTkcgTkVXUyBCdWhhcmk%3D&hl=en&client=mv-google&gl=NG

ucheheart:
question. Even in the bible when God asked adam how he got to know he was naked. He blamed it on eve. So it's natural. Just as eve made adam eat the forbidden fruit so also the white men made us depend on oil as our major source of revenue because they didn't buy any other resource in large quantity compared to crude oil. So why shouldn't i blame them.

Wow.

ucheheart:
Don't worry soon they will increase it to N200 if not N250. The white men want to make sure that no black nation emerges as world power in future and they've succeeded in achieving that. Once they heard nigeria had the best economy in africa last year and still growing, they weren't happy with that news so america didn't waste time in stopping crude oil importation which is now crumbling the economy. So everything is deliberate..

Why do we have this mindset of blaming every other person except ourselves for our problems? If it is not opposition or APC, then we blame white man, or say God is the one punishing us. Whose fault that we depleted our resources and reserves and refused to save in time of plenty? Is it the white that said our source of foreign exchange income should be over 95% crude oil based?

Slynonny:
That's a good one instead of pumping in money to sustain the Naira over the Dollar.
Expect APC to campaign with this news.

Hope you are aware that somebody or group of people just pumped in over $1 Billion for nothing then. Even in ordinary organizations, heads roll for that. This government has been too docile and ineffective, things should change.

This is a result of poor governance in the country. If the country was okay, we would not be so divided on issues like religion, tribe, federal school graduate or state school, University or Polytechnic, who do you know, where do you stay etc. We need to pray and vote for better leaders.

ayokellany:
Nigerian listen to the shocking comment from the THIEF from Otueke. " we will not publish forensic audit report on the missing $20 billion" and this clown wants Nigeria to believe no money was missing. I am mystified. MR STEALING OF GOVT MONEY IS NOT CORRUPTION AS CRUCIFIED NIGERIA. Pls do not vote for this thief.


http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/177469-missing-20-million-oil-money-why-we-cant-publish-full-details-of-audit-report-nigerian-govt.html

Lol, and they will be patting themselves in the back with FOI achievement. FOI fraud on information.

How can ASUP strike when election is near? If GEJ wins and they try such threat, they will stay home for months.

Paul's christian conduct/behaviour to political leaders.

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Paul the apostle, he does not need much of an introduction, does he? Paul was a passionate follower of God and of Jesus Christ. Paul lived in the time of the 12 disciples/apostles of Jesus Christ. They knew each other and shared common and mutual fellowship and respect for each other. Paul happened to meet personal with many prominent political leaders in his time. So that apart from preaching it, he actually practiced what he was preaching. He says,

Rom 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

When Paul is referring in this verse to "the higher powers", or "the powers that be", make no mistake, he is not referring to the Holy Spirit or to Jesus Christ. He is not even referring to the church or the elders in the church or Peter and the other apostles. He is referring to the political leaders of his time. This is exciting and intriguing as he is primarily addressing the Romans, the people of Rome. The powers that be, the Higher powers are the Caesars and governors of the time. The political class of the time were by no means born again or christian, or even what we will call nice people, both secularly or religiously.
To Caesar.
The Caesar(s) that ruled the Roman Empire during the time of the early christians until the fall of the Roman Empire were Augustus, Tiberius, Caligula, Claudius and Nero. They all had a bad history. Did i say bad? Scratch that please, they all had an evil history, they were not nice neither were they demonstrators of any of the fruits of the Spirit. It is therefore most surprising that Paul says to the christians that "every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God". Paul himself appealed to Caesar, he took his case to Caesar as judge. He recognised and regarded Caesar. Historians say that the Caesar of this time of Paul's trial was Emperor Nero, that is, that Paul actually went on trial before Nero. Whether Nero or Augustus or the others, they were all wicked, tyrannical and despotic rulers. Nero is famed for persecuting christians so intensely. We are told that about 14 of the New testament's 27books were written during the time of Nero's emperorship. Nero was so brutal we are told that he murdered his own wife and mother as well as his step brother. Nero burned christians as human torches to light his evening garden parties. If you think any present day leader is ungodly, Nero seems to surpass them in that bid. But the Bible says that every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God. Wow, just wow.
Titus 3:1 Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work,

Paul writing to a christian leader, tells him to remind other christians to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates. This is the biblical conduct of christians, this is a work of grace not of sense or logic.

To the governors.
Paul met with at least two of the governors in his time as documented in the Bible. He met with Felix and Festus.

Act 24:26 He hoped also that money should have been given him of Paul, that he might loose him: wherefore he sent for him the more often, and communed with him.
Act 24:27 But after two years Porcius Festus came into Felix' room: and Felix, willing to show the Jews a pleasure, left Paul bound.

Governor Felix was a corrupt man, looking for Paul to bribe him. Paul had respect for him, never reviling him or lampooning him or attacking his person. He did not even speak evil of him. Consider how we talk of our corrupt governors, presidents and leaders. Do we revile them? Paul referred to Festus as most noble.
Act 26:25 But he said, I am not mad, most noble Festus; but I speak forth the words of truth and soberness.

Here is Festus that had left Paul in prison just for the pleasure of his accusers. Here is a man just told Paul in the front of everyone that he was mad and besides himself.
Act 25:9 But Festus, willing to do the Jews a pleasure, answered Paul, and said, Wilt thou go up to Jerusalem, and there be judged of these things before me?


To Herod Agrippa.
King Agrippa was the Herod of Paul's time. He was related to the Herods that killed many babies when Jesus was born, the one that mocked Jesus and killed John baptist, and the one that killed James the disciple, one of the twelve. Agrippa was the brother of Bernice by the way. The words on the street was that Agrippa was sleeping with his sister Bernice and they went about openly as a couple. Remember the other Herod that had his brother's wife Herodias? This was the sort of party and family that Agrippa belonged and operated in. Imagine having to talk to such a person or of or about such a person. What would you say and how would you say it? Would you lean towards the rumours, would you focus on the truths about his life and living or be fixed like Paul on the truth of the Word of God? Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to speak evil of no man. Would you even call him king, with all the pomp and pride. Paul looked at everything he knew about Agrippa, a miserable sinner headed for an eternity in hell, and among other things said.
Act 26:2 I think myself happy, king Agrippa, because I shall answer for myself this day before thee touching all the things whereof I am accused of the Jews:
Act 26:29 And Paul said, I would to God, that not only thou, but also all that hear me this day, were both almost, and altogether such as I am, except these bonds.

He said "I think myself happy". that in itself is some sort of miracle, given the circumstances and context. But anyway, he presented his case before the KING Agrippa and even wished he and everyone listening were christians and saved by grace. No wonder he could elsewhere say that we have the mind of Christ. That is definitely not the human mind, as God's ways are not our ways. Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ.

Lildreezy:
pls dont quote me next time to avoid insults. I used t o follow sahara rep until they became too partisan 4 my liking. Next time try 2 knw what necessitate some replies b4 u quote. It shows u are 4rm a civilized home

You are attacking the messenger, the video evidence is very clear. Your threatening me or resort to violence does not change the straight and clear evidence provided. Simply watch the video and the BP. Omisore accepted and agreed that the audio tape is authentic. Fayose and the Minister for police affairs also said the tape is real, please get informed.

lovepraise:
Apc and lie God has vindicate fayose gej till grandpa show us is certhiecate. All I see now is gej till 2019

It would help you if you also see the video. Stop using God to rubberstamp your ignorance.

alfred5:
I wonder why Saharalies kept on deceiving poor masses.

Lildreezy:
sahara reporters, hmm. Waiting for a more credible source

The poverty in the land is killing. Either these people cannot afford data to watch the YouTube video or network is so bad and mediocre despite about 15yrs of GSM. All we get are bombardment with silly text messages. The video the OP posted shows Mr Omisore confirming the authenticity of the ekitigate audio tape. Unfortunately, the President and Obanikoro are still blatantly denying the obvious.

PEREP:
Pls what exactly is a lie in the fact that Amaechi stayed in Odili's quarters?
What is a lie in the fact that GMB did Kangaroo Tribunal just to axe Ajasin?
What is a lie in the fact that Amaechi never campaigned nor sold his idea to be governor if not through the courts?

Pls just tell us one of the lies. We are all waiting.

i should tell you one of the lies? It seems you either lack a conscience or are ignorant of happenings and facts. FFK did not come with facts but with outright lies, half truths and propaganda. Here are some though in case you somehow missed them. Some of his lies, half truths and propaganda are in green below.

He said that the APC is planning to rig- This is a mere unfounded assertion, he lacked and lacks a shred of proof, propaganda.

He said that he did not know the school Amaechi ever went to if he ever went to school.- This is a lie, even later in the same interview, he mistakenly told us that Amaechi went to University.

He said that Amaechi became governor without winning election.- This is an half truth as Amaechi actually won a second term election to be governor. Also, the Supreme Court decision is a lawful and legal process in this country.

He said that Amaechi told the world that he was prepared to do anything to become the Vice Presidential candidate of APC.- Where was i when Amaechi was busy telling the world this?

He said that Amachi closed the courts for one year- He forgot to tell us and the Anchorman had to remind him that it was the Federal Courts that were closed by the FG, and he continued to insist on this point which is at best an half truth.

He said that Amaechi appointed his psychiatrist as commisioner because of personal mental problem.- This is an unfounded allegation, a big lie of a propaganda. Amaechi has no such public medical conditions.

He said that he was miserable all the time that he was with the APC.- Of course, this is an exaggeration and a lie.

He said that the most decent people in the APC are people from PDP.- It is generally acclaimed that the most decent person in the APC is Buhari, he is not from the PDP.

He said that it is habitual with the APC to rig.- Unfounded allegation, actually it is the PDP that has been caught severally by the courts and recently on tape rigging elections.

He said that Buhari threatened violence if he should lose.- This remains an unfounded assertion and unproven allegation by chiefly the PDP. Instead we have actually and very recently heard PDP members like Asari Dokubo, Jimi Agbaje and Fayose threatening violence if they lose. These are clear proof, not some debatable 2001 or so newspaper cut.

He said that APC brought religion and ethnicity into politics.- Whatever his timeline might be, 1960, 1979, 1993, 1999, 2014, he is lying. We have the Vice President Sambo on video more than once telling people to vote for PDP because PDP is a muslim party. He has said that at least twice already this year on national TV. President Jonathan has been visiting all his so called brethren in church looking for votes. PDP has been the one reminding the north on ethnic lines to wait for 2019 both in the dailies and on other media. They have been asking that the south south must have 8years. They have being most ethnic and religious focused and bent on heating up and dividing people on those lines than ever seen in recent times.

He said "don't question my convictions"- Here is an hypocrite who in the same 20mins or so criticized another person of not answering questions. He blatantly refused to answer the anchorman Seun when asked about why he talked against the PDP when in the APC and he's now back. He said DON'T QUESTION MY CONVICTIONS.

He said that Buhari said he will spread Sharia throughout every part of this country, and that muslims should only vote for muslims. This is a bare faced lie and an unproven allegation, propaganda conceived by the PDP. In fact, it is Vice President Sambo who has said that northerners should vote for PDP because it is a muslim party. He said that APC is a christian party having VP Candidate Osinbajo, and their national chairman Oyegun as christians.

He said that Buhari looted PTF, and that the FG then had decided to prosecute Buhari and that he would have been in jail.- This is a lie and a mere baseless allegation. Obasanjo disproved this allegation recently, Obasanjo had the reports of the probe, not FFK.

He said that 2.8billion went missing under Buhari's watch in 1977. Cheap propaganda and beer parlor talk.

He said that Gani Fawehinmi was the only lawyer that attended the Buhari Administration military tribunals.- This is an half truth, he should have told the un-informed that the NBA boycotted the tribunals.

He said that Nigeria was VOTED the biggest economy in Africa and that this has never happened before.- First, it was not a voting, it was simply rebasing, new calculations take into account changes in production and consumption since the last time the exercise was carried out in 1990, including an added focus on communications and the movie industry. Nigeria has been the giant of Africa long before 1990, it is bad governance that has kept us in the so called doldrums, it is not a big or tangible achievement.

He said that nobody is giving us arms in fighting Boko Haram, and that beating Boko Haram is next to a miracle.- Chad and other countries have being helping us, they are not nobodies. We should quit sulking foolishly that the US troops are not in Nigeria, we can and should have quelled the insurgence a long time ago. Beating Boko Haram is not a miracle, it is unfortunate that the DG of the President Jonathan campaign thinks it is a miracle and attempts to sell it to Nigerians on national TV as a miracle.

He said that we have made gains in the economy and that we never had gains in infrastructural development and workers salary until now.- This is a bare faced lie. Depletion of the foreign exchange reserve and crude reserves are not gains. The Naira exchanging for an all time low of over 205naira to a dollar is not gain, devaluing the naira is not gain. If he is saying we never had gains in infrastructural development and workers salary until now, what again is his timeline, 1960? When?

He said that Jega said it would have been difficult to proceed with elections. Lie, Jega said several times that INEC was ready for elections.

In his final words, he said PDP are not the ones that said that they cannot lose election, their position is fixed and clear. In the next few sentences he contradicted himself insisting that PDP cannot lose the election. His direct words were that "THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, APC will get the beating of their lives all over the country."

Evidently, FFK lacks credibility.

dalaman:
I just reeled out one of his deeds for you. Do you consider it a good deed?

i already told you, deeds are not primary determinants of a Person being good. Good is measured by the God standard. i have asked you and your ilk if Stalin and co are good because they did one good deed or another, you have being pussyfooting instead. Are you saying there are no good deeds found in the Bible done by God?

dalaman:
To lunatics and psychopaths like Hitler for example.

Oh, lunatics and psychopaths are Gods? i never knew. Can we really compare God to Hitler using the Bible? God created heaven and earth, created all humans, created the Sun and the rain, the fruits and the plants and the animals, all the mineral resources. All these according to the Bible too. Lemme not start with His miracles, His book, His love and mercy and forgiveness, all in the Bible too. Are you prepared to use the Bible to compare God to anybody or god?

dalaman:
Do you consider a God that rants like this a God whose nature is good?

Amos 4:9-12

“Many times I struck your gardens and vineyards,
destroying them with blight and mildew.
Locusts devoured your fig and olive trees,
yet you have not returned to me,”
declares the Lord.

“I sent plagues among you
as I did to Egypt.
I killed your young men with the sword,
along with your captured horses.
I filled your nostrils with the stench of your camps,
yet you have not returned to me,”
declares the Lord.

“I overthrew some of you
as I overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah.
You were like a burning stick snatched from the fire,
yet you have not returned to me,”
declares the Lord.

“Therefore this is what I will do to you, Israel,
and because I will do this to you, Israel,
prepare to meet your God.”

When you say a God like, who do you compare Him to? You forgot to state.

dalaman:
You still haven't told us how God is good. You just said it.

You want His deeds reeled out?

frank317:
Lol... I will have to repeat everything I said before to reply u. You showed me how God is good by telling me goodness is his nature? And I presum you got that from the bible? Well I think my dog is good too because that is its nature.

If you have nothing meaninful to tell me pls don't bother replying.

i actually expected you to run away earlier. You can have nothing to say, because there is nothing for you to say than repeat boring copy and pasted ideas. Think for yourself and give us something more reasonable than trying to force us to believe your words.