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October 20 1Timothy6:6

1Ti 6:6 But godliness with contentment is great gain.


'Contentment' means satisfaction. To be content/contented is a little different from being complacent. Contentment is a virtue while complacency is a vice. Complacency breeds mediocrity and incompetence, complacency promotes self. The Bible gives a story of a complacent rich man. It is popularly known as the "parable of the rich fool". Here was a rich man, he had PLENTY. But he rested on his oars and trusted in himself. He said "take thine ease, eat, drink, and be merry". It is considered foolish of man to rest on his oars. You know, i used to see this warning right from nursery school on report cards. This rich man should have learnt this. he learnt the hard way. He was complacent.
The Lord wants us to be contented. What again does it mean to be contented? Does it mean to happy at one's miserable condition? NO. If you're in a miserable condition, there should be plans and effort to get out of it. It is better to try than not to try at all. Does contentment mean to glorify poverty, or illiteracy? If i am in primary school, should i make no effort to get to secondary school? Would that be contentment? If i live in one room, should i never desire or plan towards owning three rooms? Would that be contentment? If i was a sinner, should i be satisfied in my sins? If i became born again(gave my life to Jesus, became saved, or whatever term you describe it as) last week, should i press towards the prize of God's high calling, and thirst for spiritual gifts and fruits, and the knowledge of God? Or should i remain satisfied and thanking God for saving me? Would that be contentment? NO.
The contentment this verse focuses is to know how to ABOUND and how to ABASE. Longsuffering is not long suffering. One is a fruit of the Spirit of God, the other is an affliction. True Contentment is to be happy and rested IN GOD. Real and genuine contentment is to trust God whatever may be, whatever we may be facing. You might be going through poverty and lack, it is not a time to be discouraged or to backslide. You still trust and believe in God, this is contentment. You might face something tragic like a loss of a close one, it is not a time or opportunity to become an atheist, or to charge God foolishly. This is Bible contentment. Contentment is not a resignation to fate, but faith in God's power and ability to see you through. Paul says "I know both how to be abased, and I know how to abound: every where and in all things I am instructed both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need". He knew how to ABOUND. Contentment is not making poverty a permanent dwelling place. Contentment is SEEING constant need/want as SUFFERING. He did not enjoy need, He suffered need. Balance godliness with contentment, it is great gain.

nora544:
When you have read the devil who could heal you would know that he didnot belong to the prosperity preachers and that he died 1935.
He is more known for fake healing but I know you didnot read this from the guy from the University of south africa. John Lake is well know for his fake healings and Benny Hinn wrote a book about him and Hinn is also in the prosperity gospel and he makes fake healings.

Hagin is the father of the prosperity gospel and this are two pair of shoes.

First the book come out from this fake Pastor who was in jail and when you have nothing you try to finde a new way to make money so he wrote about the fake of the prosperity gospel.

Hagin has fear that this coud be a new movement in America so he write his book where he want if this movement will became big he can say, sorry I was wrong here you see I write that is was not okay.

read this book Health, Wealth and Happiness, theologians David Jones and Russell Woodbridge characterize the doctrine as poor theology.

Nora, i'm disappointed with you. i sincerely hope and pray that God is not disappointed with you. What is all this rambling you have made in this post? You said John G Lake is the founder of healing centers. Then you said Kenneth Hagin is the founder of healing centers. i pointed the discrepancy to you. What is expected is an explanation or perhaps a simple apology for your mistake/mixing things up. So again, make your position known clearly. Who is the founder of healing centers? What happened to your integrity and honesty?

WinsomeX:
I got this quote from the link nannymcphee provided here. I felt it is very instructive to our discuss here. I am going to ask Image123 tI tell me what he thinks of it:

"I have talked with missionaries from around the world. One interesting thing they have noticed in places like India and elsewhere where bona fide pagan idolatry is practiced openly is that often they will come across someone who added a cross or crucifix among their idols. When asked about it, the idolater will typically answer, “Oh, a man came and told me about this Jesus who loved me and died for my sins…and who wants to bless me and heal me. I thought, ‘He is so nice. I’ll add Him to my collection of gods.'” In other words, whenever an idolater is not told he needs to repent of his idolatry, he or she simply adds Jesus to their “deity collection.”

Culled from http://richvermillion.com/2008/01/01/the-real-gospel/

Repentance should be preached, the gospel is a full package. The gospel is not one sided. The good news includes repentance, freedom from sin and victory over satan and the world, health and healing, provision and prosperity, ABUNDANT life etc.
Luk 24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

Luk 4:17 And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Isaiah. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,
Luk 4:18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
Luk 4:19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.

WinsomeX:
Still not disappointing... don't worry your own moment of truth will reach you; same as it came to most of us and to nannymcphee.

Unfounded claims and gossips... lol. They will remain so as long as you don't have the courage to open those links and study the evidenced provided there.

Which of the people did you say are not around... the WoF brood of vipers that litter the Lag/Ibad expressway , the ones on TBN or the ones whose billboard are all over our streets and television? Oh, if you mean Hagin, ah... I get you. We don't need him. We have enough of him around to answer queries on his behalf, if they can.

Fortunately a lot more people are talking here than me and the OP. Just shine your eyes and you may see the light.

Moment of what truth exactly? What is truth, do you have an idea? The Word of God is truth, not some discovery about doctrines or about men. You were warned by God not to place your foundations, trust and hope on men but on Christ. My foundation is in the Word of God and that Word says "Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth." i dare not do anything against that but for that truth. The truth says " let them say continually, Let the LORD be magnified, which hath pleasure in the prosperity of his servant." i don't have a care in the world what links or books or youtube videos men may produce. God has spoken, twice have i heard it.
You referred to 'courage to open those links and study the evidenced provided there.' i'd rather courage to open the Word of God and study it. What is my business with what some preacher somewhere has to say or do when i have the Greater One speaking and His Holy Book waiting. If you seriously think some man will make a miracle or a mistake that would influence my foundations, think again. We have not followed cunningly devised fables, i know who i am, by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain.
Which of the people that you spend so much time discussing and gloating over is around? Again, what is the light? This quote from you? " The error of the Prosperity Gospel is "God wants believers to be materially wealthy". Is that the light? Light to see what exactly? i'm okay with what i see, thanks. For we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honor; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man. that's what i see. And i will continue to shout with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honor, and glory, and blessing.
He was slain, He died to receive RICHES and power, and glory, and honour, and BLESSINGS. Guess who He gave dem gifts, MEN.

shdemidemi:
Gosh! You have a knack of tiptoeing around issues without saying anything substantial.

You DO NOT believe the bible, if you did you would not say that the Bible is not written to you. You do not know or believe Jesus to be same today as He was yesterday. If you did, you would know that Jesus can still do today what He did yesterday. These are not assumptions or speculations, these are facts visible to anybody who goes through your posts on NL.

Okay sir.



I called you an enemy of the faith because of your obvious love for self which influence almost all of your interpretation of scripture. Jesus said if you do not hate self, you are not fit to be my disciple. It is obvious you need to check yourself and who you put first- GOD OR SELF.

These are baseless and unfounded accusations. One characteristic of baseless and unfounded accusations is that ANYBODY CAN MAKE THEM. Please check through my posts and produce 3 posts that show this obvious love for self you are on about.

The gospel is the story about the death, burial and resurrection of Christ. It is the news that pave a way to the jews and the gentile in the present administration of grace. It is the gateway for eternal life that must be heralded primarily to unbelievers.

NB- belief in the gospel is the key to the door of salvation but doctrine is needed for spiritual growth of believers.

So by some magic or miracle or mysticism, you think i do not have any concern for these? What triggered/brought about your doubts?

Any doctrine that does not point man to God but to self and what self can do to get health, wealth, lucre et al is a 'body glorifying message'. We glorify God when all we say and teach point people to God's goodness regardless of experiential or physical proof.

Sorry, I won't pâste any post...

How convenient of you not to paste any post or example, but ironically, you found it convenient to conclude that my posts glorify the body and rarely glorify God. The doctrine of the OP glorifies man. Any doctrine that thinks God does not bless people materially glorifies man. A sane man would ascribe all the glory and his achievements to God. Job knew that all he had came from God. Daniel opined same. Of his property and family, Job said "the LORD gave, and the LORD hath taken away". Hear Daniel and Paul.
Dan 4:32 And they shall drive thee from men, and thy dwelling shall be with the beasts of the field: they shall make thee to eat grass as oxen, and seven times shall pass over thee, until thou know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.
Act 17:28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.

A sane person ascribes his riches and provisions to God. The OP says it is an egocentric gospel that God wants believers to be materially wealthy. Proponents blindly argue that it is not God that has given wealth and the power to get wealth to the rich. They try to point us to names and links of people who supposedly have wealth and health without God. That is the extremity i stand against but which proponents of this bankrupt thread glorify. God is the source of wealth and health, He is a good God.

The fallen structure is the present sinful and decaying body of man.

If you think your loyalty lies with God, I humbly exhort you to check again because it does not reflect in your posts.

Your meter or whatever device you use to measure people's loyalties is faulty. You don't have capacity or ability to do that, neither do i. Angels have.

Like I said, your posts reek of one who got the entire fundamentals of the Christian Faith wrong. Like you, even apostle Peter asked Jesus what was in there for them as they followed christ, guess what Jesus told Peter...

Again, Mention one scripture i have twisted on this thread to validate my lustful agenda. Then give the untwisted meaning of that scripture, thanks or remain a liar and a false accuser. i'll show you what Jesus told Peter BTW. i'm that magnanimous.
Mat 19:27 Then answered Peter and said unto him, Behold, we have forsaken all, and followed thee; what shall we have therefore?
Mat 19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
Mat 19:29 And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive a hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.

Candour:
as usual, you leave the entire discussion and start chasing shadows. if you believe the bolded, why the need for the long epistle? abi you're getting high BP? If you agree we are seeing it from different angles, then so be it. That isn't even material to the issue being discussed here.

Also with the persistent reference to an unclad Saul, i hope all is well with you?

What shadows are we chasing? Were you not involved "in leaving the entire discussion"? Now, the joke went sour on you, you remember your roots? You should have displayed your definition of maturity and ignore, Mr do as i say not as i do.
You're shameless, you should at least apologise after you subtly maligned me and i gave you biblical evidence for my position/take on Elijah's. Instead, you'd rather save face and talk bold face, i pity you.

then let it stay irrelevant to you. Why this immaturity to always run back to your vomit? You claim a post is irrelevant but your itchy fingers will always betray you into replying. You didnt read the portion Nanny posted yet you hypocritically asked for the link? If it pleases you, you can deny Hagin now because ''Midas Touch'' has just showed you up for the liar that you are.

Na you get burdens my dear, plenty burdens that have made you very unstable.

All what you wrote in that post was irrelevant to what i've being saying on this thread, and i did not touch it. It's your vomit, not mine, and i have no intentions of addressing it.
You said i have a PROFFESSED LOVE FOR HAGIN. i asked you to tell me about it, please remind me of it. At least it is professed. You probably hope to brush that aside as well. That is the way you lie with carefully phrased words and deceive people who are not careful. ''Midas Touch'' has shown nothing against me. If anything, it has shown the deceptive nature of you and your fellows that were praising just some selected parts to the high heavens and not hinting readers of the parts you do not support in the book. You as usual just wanted to use the book as a tool to fulfil your own purpose, it is backfiring as we speak. There is no hypocrisy in asking for the link. Nanny initially said she would provide the link, i had heard of the book before. So when she started posting excerpts, i reminded/asked her for the link so i could access the book. It is that simple and plain. Only people with issues would read other meanings into that.

When i say you're confused and unstable, you go begin vex. who first quoted each other on this glorious thread? try and internalise this: you and i aren't having a private conversation. I've been telling you since forever that i post here for the benefit of the larger public. You quoted my post and i replied with the NL community in mind like i always do. If you find my post irrelevant, simply ignore it. Thats what i do. Thats what mature people do. You dont have to reply every mention. I don't. If that diminishes you, it isnt my fault.

Why do you think that i go begin vex? Any reason or proof for this raving thoughts and assumptions of yours? There was no dispute or debate about who first quoted who, i wonder why you spring up that fallacy. When you quote or mention a person in a post, it is taken for granted that that post is PRIMARILY addressed to, or requires the attention of the mentioned. Internalize that and stop playing smarter than yourself.

Goshen360:
Some people are not teaching scriptures no more but doctrine of men, that's what another man taught. ...doctrines of men and they want to use scriptures to justify what another man teaching because they believe in that man. Smh!!!

Stories certainly for the gods. Tell Gnoni, drumb and their pals this rubbish already. #Hypocrisy.

i wish it would be that easy to know but He's coming when we don't expect (like the thief in the night comes).
Hi bro.

ifeness:
You can buy one in the shop. Buy one and have daily interaction with it. At least spaghetti monster has a picture, the OP posted one.

i cannot afford to.

Dapo777:
Visit http://www.spaghettimonster.com

i wasn't impressed. The worshippers don't need their god, neither does their god need them.

Beazy:
The UK Home Office has banned flamboyant Nigerian pastor, Bishop David Oyedepo, from entering Britain, a British government source told SaharaReporters.

Is this news? i thought we were told that already earlier this year?

Mr. Oyedepo is known as the general overseer of the Living Faith Church Worldwide, otherwise known as Winners Chapel. Headquartered in Ota, Ogun State, the church has branches in numerous parts of the world, including the UK and US.
Bishop David Oyedepo

Oh, the church has branches. Is the church Oyedepo or is Oyedepo the church? This is yet to appear unclear to the OP and its supporters.

According to the source, the ban arose from preliminary investigations by Britain’s Charity Commission that determined that monies donated to Bishop Oyedepo’s church for charitable purposes were funneled to Nigeria to fund the preacher’s flamboyant lifestyle.
Bishop Oyedepo owns a plush private jet and has a fleet of expensive cars, among many other astonishing personal assets.

How was this determined exactly? How do you determine that monies donated to Bishop Oyedepo’s church for charitable purposes were funneled to Nigeria to fund the preacher’s flamboyant lifestyle. i understand many churches that have branches usually have a determined percentage sent to their headquarters. It is not unique to Living Faith. i'm almost sure other churches do it too. Deeper Life, Redeem, MFM, they all have branches and they send monies to their headquarters. So maybe they should also use this yardstick to ban Kumuyi, Adeboye and Olukoya, and any other church that sends monies to headquarters. Oh, don't stop there, ban anybody that is sending monies to Nigeria to fund anybody. My neighbour has an aunty in Europe that sends monies to allegedly fund his flamboyant lifestyle too. Ridiculous.

Bishop Oyedepo was barred from entering the United Kingdom in July. However, when SaharaReporters contacted Nicola Kelly, a press officer at the immigration desk at the UK Home Office, she declined to comment on the case.
The same day, our reporter spoke to one Emmanuel Igban, a media aide to Bishop Oyedepo, but he denied that the high-flying preacher had been banned.

Oh it already happened July but it is news again in October? One would think Oyedepo would not survive since UK has allegedly banned him. So, the UK Home Office official declined to comment, Oyedepo's official says he is not banned, but we somehow arrive at the conclusion that he is banned. Hmmm, full of logic.

But our British source asserted that Bishop Oyedepo and one of his sons had been aware of the probe of church finances for at least three years now. He added that the probe was triggered after the British Charity Commission found out that the wealthy pastor had taken out more than £16 million from the UK since 2009. He added that the commission closely monitors any repatriation of church resources, disclosing that any repatriation of funds of that size was most likely illegal.

Oh yes the sauce source must assert without proof na, lets make cheap news of Oyedepo and ride on the sentiments of the gullible. The wealthy pastor PERSONALLY took more than such amount or the church branch remitted it to their church headquarters? Which one is accurate? We don't want "most likely". Something is EITHER legal OR illegal, nothing like most likely illegal. Maybe you're most likely lying.

According to the source, Bishop Oyedepo claimed that he was running a not-for-profit religious organization, “but the commission determined that he was diverting funds to engage in a series of profitable ventures.”
Bishop Oyedepo, who recently turned 60, is believed to be Nigeria’s richest pastor and is widely regarded as one of the richest televangelists in the world.

Stories for the gods. What is his account number and how much is there?

The UK government has distributed notices warning airlines that operate flights to the UK not carry the bishop.
Mr. Oyedepo’s private jet is also barred from entering the UK airspace with him on board.

Any proof to this or we should just take it by faith?

A few years ago, Bishop Oyedepo provoked international outrage when videotapes of one of his church events showed him slapping a teenage girl he accused of being a witch. In the face of mounting criticism, including calls for his arrest for assaulting a minor, Mr. Oyedepo boasted that he would slap the “witch” again.
Source: www.saharareporters.com/2014/10/16/bishop-oyedepo-banned-entering-uk-over-church-corruption

International outrage my foot, only some few misguided fellows on NL and some wannabe blogs almost went overdrive over the matter. With all their huffing and puffing and predictions and violent concussions, nothing happened. i join Oyedepo in that boast, after he slaps the witch again, i will gladly knock some sense into the head. Nonsense.

WinsomeX:
I hope Image123 is following the discussion.

What exactly am i supposed to follow in the discussion? i don't do unfounded claims and gossips, neither do i dwell on discussing people especially if they are not around. i stand on the fact that YOU and the OP are wrongfully opinionated to stand at the edge of the cliff and oppose God prospering His children. Follow that.

PastorKun:
Well the spirit of God has taught us that the way tithing is being preached and practised in churches today is not only wrong but is a monumental fraud. Christians are not required to tithe by God.

You do not have the Spirit of God.

paxonel:
what OP man is that? i don't have time for men o,
i don't need any man to worship God. all men are friends to me.
what we are saying is, you may be far better than that oledepo man. you don't need him or his church to worship your God.
but incase you are too keen to churching, you just have to be careful
they are already talking how oledepo going to course people ...lol

The OP is a man not God. You have taken his words hook, line and sinker without validating. You also have to be careful. Follow the OP man with caution.

nora544:
He is one of the fathers of the WOF movement,

He is the founder of the prayer and healing centers, he make money with this centers and his church belong to his children

that shows that it is only a business to sell the gospel.

But you told me earlier this year that John Lake is the founder of healing centers. What kind of thing is this? Are you deliberately trying to confuse me?

Remember this, and then this one.

shdemidemi:
Notice how you have pushed a request for an introspective check of where your allegiance lie back to what I believe or not believe. I admit to whatever speculations and assumptions you throw at me, after all, the worse form of information comes from assumptions.

Can we now get back to my earlier post. Please address it appropriately.

demisquare, an introspective check is supposed to take how many minutes exactly? Is an introspective check supposed to be necessarily broadcast on a 'public forum'? i read you well the first time, and i also asked you questions which i needed to see the answers. Your answers were incongruent with your well known positions on this forum. You DO NOT believe the bible, if you did you would not say that the Bible is not written to you. You do not know or believe Jesus to be same today as He was yesterday. If you did, you would know that Jesus can still do today what He did yesterday. These are not assumptions or speculations, these are facts visible to anybody who goes through your posts on NL.
Okay, you want me to answer your post AGAIN, i'll oblige you again. It's your lucky day.

I am sure you don't know how much of an enemy you are to the faith, I also doubt if you care or have any concern for the gospel Of Christ. Your post are rarely post that glorify God but messages that glorify the body. Where exactly does your fidelity lie, in God or in your fallen structure?
Even if you lie and front like you have love for God, you shouldn't be lying to yourself. I am too sure you are in this for what you think you can gain and you do a very fervent job at twisting scriptures to validate your lustful agenda.
Please my friend, look introspectively and make an honest evaluation of why you are a 'Christian'- is it for God or for self!

-How am i an enemy to the faith, please explain lucidly and biblically, thanks.
-What is the gospel of Christ, please be brief.
-What does it mean to glorify the body. Please give me two or three examples of posts that glorify the body and another two that glorify God, i'm learning everyday. Thanks.
-My fidelity lies with and in God, not in my fallen structure, whatever that means.
-Don't be too sure of yourself. Mention one scripture i have twisted on this thread to validate my lustful agenda. Then give the untwisted meaning of that scripture, thanks.
- My introspective and honest evaluation results are out oh. i am a christian for God.

Candour:
No. Elijah wanted to die because he thought he was the only person with truth in Isreal. He ran from Jezebel because he didn't want to die then, after considering everything, he decided death was better than being alone in a fully 'pagan' Isreal.

Try spend more time studying bible instead of thinking and dreaming money

Candor ehhhhhhhh, you can fit argue blindly sha. To be mild on you, it is like Mr A says that If you wants to enter Nigeria, you go through Murtala Mohammed Airport. Mr B comes along and says Ta, you pass through Cotonou border side to enter Nigeria. In a way, we are both correct. Elijah wanted to die because of Jezebel's actions. It cumulatively led to his depression and discouragement. Talking of Bible study, here it is.
1Ki 19:2 Then Jezebel sent a messenger unto Elijah, saying, So let the gods do to me, and more also, if I make not thy life as the life of one of them by tomorrow about this time.
1Ki 19:3 And when he saw that, he arose, and went for his life, and came to Beer-sheba, which belongeth to Judah, and left his servant there.
1Ki 19:4 But he himself went a day's journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a juniper tree: and he requested for himself that he might die; and said, It is enough; now, O LORD, take away my life; for I am not better than my fathers.

Elijah saw the threat and ran, then went A DAY's journey and requested to die. This is as plain and straight forward as comprehension gets. But no wahala if you go for a far fetched answer. It's not damning, and its even correct in a sense, okay?
It was AFTER this wish to die that angel gave him food twice, then he went and journeyed FORTY DAYS and nights to Horeb. That is over a month, compared to the earlier one day journey after seeing Queen J's threat. It is here God was asking him for what he's doing there. And so forth.
1Ki 19:10 And he said, I have been very jealous for the LORD God of hosts: for the children of Israel have forsaken thy covenant, thrown down thine altars, and slain thy prophets with the sword; and I, even I only, am left; and they seek my life, to take it away.


Apparently he was trying to save his life here(some others were seeking his life). He wasn't trying to die, he was strengthened earlier. Anyway, i'll leave it for you whatever you think, have the last word. You deserve it. Know sha, it is only you that knows whether you typed that post n.aked or not, after the order of Saul

Of course it will be irrelevant to you just as 'Midas touch' escaped your radar despite your proffessed 'love' for Hagin until nannymcphee 'mercifully' brought it to your view.

It is irrelevant because it is irrelevant, deal with it if you please. i don't recall my professed 'love' for Hagin, tell me about it. You find it easier to lie these days and make false and baseless accusations. Is that the freedom and true gospel your fellows are always calling us to? i don't think i've read ANY Hagin book (i've heard him though). i didn't even read the portion nanny posted, i glanced through. i've heard of the book before and since nanny said earlier that she would give a ebook link or so, i asked her here. Hagin is not irrelevant to me, your burdens are irrelevant to me, NOTE the difference.

Also, why do you always think you're the only one i write to when i post? Have you forgotten this is a public forum? Pls close your eyes to this post I beg you. Its surely 'irrelevant' to you. Others who need it will read it.

Cheers

When you quote or mention a person in a post, it is taken for granted that that post is PRIMARILY addressed to, or requires the attention of the mentioned. You can type your frustrations without mentioning my name, yes you can. At least you didn't mention me here. Learn from Jesus, you are too full of your self.

paxonel:
it's not about him going bankrupt, it's about winners members not closing their eyes and ears when they ear the truth, so that they can follow that man with caution

If you're going to follow any man, follow him looking unto Jesus. i'll need to specifically address the OP it seems. So you too, follow the OP man with caution.

fubbyy:
my problem is not really the source, my main issue is if it can stop the one coming from the side of mountain of fire

I said the source is diabolical, you say the source isn't a problem. You're prepared to receive from God and satan apparently. Well, i no dey that kain matter.

Candour:
Hahahaha

If I naked prophesy, I sure say you being dey dig grave for yourself and asking to die out of anger Like Elijah before God said "relax image, you don't need to die because Candour spoke the truth"




You see, you'll go to a lot of trouble and still come up empty if you decide to take a trip through my engagements on NL to bring out where I said poverty is the will of God for Christians. I can also confidently say I have not read anybody preach it here. If you have, bring out the moniker and I'll join in condemning the person.

@the bolded. If we agree that God's prosperity plan is available to all, then why are we still arguing? Nannymcphee said God will/can provide materially. This is the message in Phil 4:19. It talks of needs being met, not wants. A major problem the world has today is knowing the difference between wants and needs and its unfortunate that Christians have been sucked into that same hole. This leads men into piercing themselves through with many sorrows like Paul said, all in a bid to keep up with the Joneses.

The bible encourages work and God will bless the work. Who is blessed then and who isnt? The man can afford UI for his child, the one that can afford CU, the one that can afford Leeds or the one that can afford Harvard. Which of them isn't blessed? If the Harvard-able-to-pay father is the blessed, how many of you who preach this 'prosperity' thing can afford it? Why can't you afford it? Is it a lack of enough faith? The devil? Or God's wickedness? The funny thing is that we have plenty Harvard trained Nigerians but God placed a Nigerian university trained zoologist as president.

It was needs Jesus promised adding to us in Matthew 6:33, not our fanciful wants. A colleague of mine was driving a Honda 2008 but believed he had to drive a more recent jeep to feel arrived. He took delivery of highlander 2012 last year June but is now gunning for a range sport 2014 because he has to keep up with his mates.

What will it take for humans to be satisfied?

i no be Elijah, i queue for him back as it were. You know Elijah wanted to die because of jezebel's madness, not because of Candour. Abi you be jzbell? hahahaha.
i didn't accuse you of saying anything, so it's a wonder why you want me to go to any trouble. Most of the rest of what you wrote is largely irrelevant to my posts on this thread. Take your burdens to the Lord and leave it there. i'm not the Lord, just His boy.

shdemidemi:
I say yay to all three questions, why do you ask?

I hope you are not about to shove my earlier post back at me. What I wrote in the earlier post applies to me too, so I am not saying I am better.

WHY ARE WE IN THIS, FOR SELF OR FOR GOD!!!

If you're a christian, you would not have condemned the guiltless. If you believe the bible, you will know that God has pleasure in the prosperity of His people. If you know Jesus is the same forever, you'd believe in miracles and divine encounters today.

nora544:
Oh he didnot want UK so why he want to build a very expensive secondary school in UK, also with the school he has a problem to get the acreditation.

So stop writing such he didnot want UK, when you know nothing.

okay he will go bankrupt now since UK allegedly ban him.

shdemidemi:
I am sure you don't know how much of an enemy you are to the faith, I also doubt if you care or have any concern for the gospel Of Christ. Your post are rarely post that glorify God but messages that glorify the body. Where exactly does your fidelity lie, in God or in your fallen structure?

Even if you lie and front like you have love for God, you shouldn't be lying to yourself. I am too sure you are in this for what you think you can gain and you do a very fervent job at twisting scriptures to validate your lustful agenda.

Please my friend, look introspectively and make an honest evaluation of why you are a 'Christian'- for God or for self!

Are you a christian?
Do you believe the bible?
Do you believe Jesus is the same yesterday, today, and forever?

brocab:
everyone needs to know the truth. And its good to hear it from others, to share it around our globe.

What is the truth?

paxonel:
you see now, that the article is true, he cannot possibly don't want uk without anything of such happening

i don't know if the article is true, "I done giva damn". Point is he doesn't need the UK from 1900 till date.

nora544:
When I have time Iwill show you that it is tru, Uk didnot want him, Uk didnot want witchhunters.

Him sef, he don't want U.K.

@OP, i''ll say the "deliverance" is diabolical. It brings results and the man has power no doubt, but his methods are very questionable. Even you, you're asking questions. Trust in God, repent from evil, call upon God, He still supplies all our needs.

fubbyy:
He's more than hardworking that's why we believe he had a spiritual problem which led to his solution seeking, he has done series of things to make money but none worked out

The last one he did was doing a sales boy to a man who deals on fancy bulbs, 1 week to the job he broke a bulb that costs #40,000 while his salary was #15,000

Hahahaha, sorry this got me laughing hard. The devil is wicked. Jesus is Lord.

Nanny, link to Midas' touch ebook?

Gombs:
If not for rules on NL and sanctity, I'd have put up most of their info...I don't get personal online,especially NL.... elders here do, make me wonder whether elders here are morally bankrupt

The bullying is unfortunate.Morally bankrupt, financially bankrupt, miracle bankrupt etc bankrupt. Miracle dey no get, church dey no get, pastor dey no get, morals dey no wan get. One would think they were the most pious but all na facade. They can abuse, insult, malign, criticise, lie, fight, have bile and unforgiving spirit etc. All they have are recycled youtube links and copy and paste. Don't mind them.

shdemidemi:
I have no interest in your petty talks and baseless jabs. If you have anything with substance to say, say it for the edification of those reading you.

Jesus was physically here on earth as Christ for about 33yrs. Some people didn't even have an idea even though they saw Him and even killed Him. Some others are still expecting Him.

Gombs:
*falls of chair laughing

Nice piece bro

Thanks Gombs. which kain chair be that na? Sit on quality chair jare, abi you dey abase for windowsx dem? lol