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chysam:
Jesus was being sarcastic about that.Read those verses all over again.
Then take some time out to ponder why christ after telling the hypocrites to do this did not turn to his followers with similar message. Ever heard of Paul who was formerly Saul?.Please tell us why he stopped paying tithes when he became born again.Are you also aware that he regreted working through the OT laws?.Please check your bible to conform. Now you say you take pride in paying tithe,the apostles and everyone who followed christ did not do that.Some of them even wrote the bible.Are you Godlier than them.Did they rob God? Were they under curse? Pease explain

Okay, i have some time today on a computer, some people would be having the hbp, lol. Not sure if i replied this earlier.
Mat 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

i see no sarcasm whatsoever in the above scripture. Sarcasm means the opposite of what is said and is meant to mock and deride. i look again, no sarcasm. Jesus was speaking to the hearing of ALL in Matthew 23, that is clear enough from the first verse. Anyone who thinks he can get away with the acts of the pharisees as a Nigerian, American or non-jew or non-pharisee is deluded.
How do you conclude that Paul was paying tithes? i do you conclude that he stopped?

nice picture and even commendation. However, we should beware of subtle introduction of man worship. May Pastor Kumuyi hold on earnestly to the end and obtain a full reward.

vooks:
your reasons for NOT offering Firstfruits, too embarrassing to be shared publicly? You poured your guts out in the tithing debate. Helped thousands. Why shy away from this?

You talk too much for a man. You're free to your opinions on what i do. I'm not under any obligations to answer to you. The tithe thread had its story and reason. i don't know how you managed to arrive at figures of the thousands i helped, do you work for the Nigerian government? You share a knack for churning out stuff from the nostrils.

trustman:
Vooks,
Warning!
Prepare for Image123's merry-go-round.

You should have helped clear the air on Gnoni's case earlier. Your silence was a loud embarrassment to the Christian community.

vooks:
Not EVERYbody, just SOMEbody. Who ever demanded nothing from you?

Beat it. It's not by force to help somebody on demand.

vooks:
You don't suppose they may be of help to somebody?

i suppose i don't have to help everybody on demand.

vooks:
Minor reasons for NOT offering Firstfruits?

i don't see the need to discuss or share my minor reasons.

vooks:
Image123,
Pardon my intrusion but do you have a specific reason for not doing Firstfruits?
At my church, this is seldom preached and am talking of 10 straight years and I don't recall anything like Firstfruits. On personal level, I have interacted with a few friends who give their first salary as Firstfruits. Am hearing it here on NL of January Salary being Firstfruits. For me, whenever I get extra income I raise my normal offering.

No major reason.

paxonel:
they say Christ will come one day and very soon, to blow a trumpet from the cloud and gather believers to heaven, there after God will destroy this world, imagin.
i think this is a primitive concept from some ancient primitive theologians and Africa has been a victim of this misconception over the years

You didn't listen to the full gist i guess.

MarkMiwerds:
spoken to the sons of Jacob, (v.6) not to you or I. The Storehouse was in the Temple in Jerusalem, not in a Church in Nigeria or America.

i'm speaking it to you. Same excuse can be made for any of the epistles as written to so and so, not you. God's house is not only in Jerusalem.

MarkMiwerds:
if using it out of context to prove I am robbing God and under a curse, then, yes..., you would be threatening.

Malachi 3:8 Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings. 3:9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation. 3:10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

Candour:
If dem ask you now, for your mind you're trying to make peace abi? you're trying to settle a problem abi? after the dust has settled, after all the broken bottles have been cleared by the gladiators themselves, after everybody has seen that the fights aren't worth it, you start digging up posts to 'resettle' the quarrels and 'right' the wrongs abi?

kontinu to deceive yourself. It's not costing you anything but sleep so ride on.

blessed are the peace makers......for they will have the same 'peace' they're bringing on the thread in their own affairs too. Amen

i take it this post is addressed to public forum, whoever that is.

BabaGnoni:
OK johnny come lately
but when you're done quoting, singling out, combing, examining closely and inspecting thoroughly only vooks, WinsomeX, trustman and my threads alone, let us know

Learn to take simple corrections humbly instead of resorting to conjectures and childish 'last say' comments.

paxonel:
This is the mandate God gave to mankind in the beginning
Genesis 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and REPLENISH THE EARTH , and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
So., our primary purpose on earth is to replenish this earth and God has not changed his mind about this.
How come churches are now saying that the reason why we are on earth is to win souls to prepare for rapture ?
That when rapture comes, God will take us to heaven and destroy this world?
Why will God create man in the beginning and ask him to replenish this world, only for him to come and destroy what man have put his effort to replenish over the years?
Is God that confused? (I'm speaking like a man )
I know winning soul is part of it, But it is not the main thing.

Where did you hear about the rapture? What did they tell you will happen after the rapture?

MarkMiwerds:
Do you feel threatened by Proverbs 22:16?

If not, then how can I have threatened you with it? If you do, then don't blame me. That verse was written centuries before I was even born.

Again, Proverbs 22:16 is a verse of wisdom that is applicable to anyone and everyone. If you give to the rich, you will come to want. If the rich take from the poor, they too, will come to want. Maybe not this side of eternity, but if not, then they will stand wanting when they stand before God.

As to Malachi, we have been over that already. The curse in Malachi was never for the Church. Why shouldn't I criticize pastors who intimidate their congregations with the threat of Malachi's curse when they clearly take it out of context.

If you can't see that, it is unfortunate.

Am not threatened by Malachi or Proverbs. They are both the wisdom of God. If i quote Malachi 3 to you, would i be threatening you?

BabaGnoni:
mbaemeka, now it is confirmed that you are a fat-headed good for nothing/worthless person

On top of been a drama queen, you are hearing impaired - it was nora544 and Lobeez first who added videos on the thread until others responded will follow ups and more details

You're so gormless, you really don't have a clue.
Keep on making statements but not doing it in verbatim, and be basking in the thoughtless praises of those hoodwinked and caught up in your misrepresentations and deceitfulness.

You have a psychological problem mbaemeka, no doubt as your paranoia with IDs or monickers are very well known.
You're clutching at straws about anyone deactivating accounts, and lying through your teeth making unfounded allegations

You're playing to the gallery because you're nothing than an attention-seeking, distracting, desperate sad person who will try anything, say anything, no matter how unlikely, how untrue, just to massage that over-bloated ego of yours that needs a good old deflating

You have nothing on me. Can't touch this. Suck it up. Loser.

Stop the insults, you and everyone else. This is the religion section for God's sake. What correction is left to make that supersedes this? You guys should correct your lives before whatever doctrine or teaching you dream of correcting. i'm talking to everybody reading.

BabaGnoni:
^^^
What you should be doing, is apologising for conjuring up a quote out of thin air and smacking my name on it.
In the real world this will have some serious consequences and not go unpunished
The boldness and cheek of some people. SMH

In the other world to come, you'd be charged with prevaricating. It wasn't thin air in April or was it July until the data loss. The boldness and cheek of some people.

WinsomeX:
@BabaGnoni,

I think you should understand why the leading WoFist on this forum will want to attack, discredit and twist your words. You are the leading exposer of Word of Faith on this forum. These are the hazards that come with the work.

Maybe when next they begin to wine like newborns about Eve and Serpent, simply refer readers to this page where the matter has been dealt with and hopefully laid to rest.

The matter dealt with, how? Why not grow the boldness to withstand Gnoni to the face and ask him straight and simple question? Or you're afraid he actually said it, abi na antiwof touch not my pally syndrome? Ask Gnoni about it openly or even tman.
Hopefully laid to rest indeed. You wan twist history abi?

vooks:
goD mbaemeka,
So all we have are your MEMORY? How convenient! And that you took all this long to recall that! Puny brained goD

Actually, we have Gnoni here and tman's silent witness. Not forgetting Bidam, even me i think i recall the thing. One sisterme handle was also saying something similar.

chysam:
Your assertion here is not clear and it looks like you deliberately made it so to create confusion. Whose curse is the curse mentioned in Malachi?. You would do better explaining this in clear terms.You who pretend now sincerely know that tithing by the gullible tithers is against thoses curses.Or do you have a contrary explanation?

i don't understand what you're saying.

WinsomeX:
You know sometimes I wish like calling you agbaya sometimes.

The Yoruba will say "we were planning to eat up and wash up the plate used to eat ekuru; but here you are spreading crumbs on it again". Did you miss the part on this thread when the young woman you seem to hailing apologized to BBG? if you don't want to be called agbaya then you should grow up.

She didn't apologize for her question, which remains valid and unanswered till date. She apologized for quoting Gnoni instead of mentioning him. She explained it was to get his attention. Like it or not, the incidence was very funny.

BabaGnoni:
I sure made her blood boil
I'll probably would have thrown a tantrum and have a fit too, if someone was messing up my head, my theology and leaving me hanging.
- you know it was like not returning a high-five when someone puts their hand in the air

duh, there you go again. i don't think you were messing up her head or theology or anything about hangings and high-fives. She asked a simple, straight forward question, and you went spinning chinko Shakespearic God knows what. Try to keep it simple at times.

BabaGnoni:
^^^
Laughing is very good and solves problems
- It is fun, free and easy to use
Laughter is a good medicine. Welcome to the club Image123

yes oh, you sef no laugh? You too dey irksome sometimes oh, shey you know? Am i in literature class, hahaha.

dp

Gombs:
Aii bro
But BabaGnoni didn't refute the claim on the thread, rather got nannymcphee in a slap mode! I felt her fury bro

Omo, that incidence gets me laughing hard anytime i'm reminded. Nanny funny oh, ah ah.
She said "if I could see you face to face, i'd have given you a piece of my mind, lol. Ol boy, take cover mode was it oh.

nannymcphee:
Gombs, I haven't forgotten about the questions I asked about CE. I just want you to be done here before I pick that up again

mbaemeka, Image123, I want to know your stance on firstfruit taught by Hagin?

i don't do firstfruits. Nothing wrong with anyone that does it though. It's a type of offering.

Abiola-Kingibe worked in Nigeria, it was Muslim-Muslim.

MarkMiwerds:
Malachi 3:10 is a command. Not for the Church, for the Priests of Israel. It is foolish to interpret it any other way.

Proverbs 22:16 is not a command. It does not say don't give to the rich, it doesn't say don't ake from the poor.

Malachi 3:9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.

The context is verse 9.Do pastors supposedly threaten anyone with verse 10? You threatened me with proverbs and criticise others for threatening with Malachi. How you can't see that is unfortunate.

Gombs:
Gentlemen, we've derailed enough, can we get to the book?

BabaGnoni, I have seen the thread you made that comment, wonders why WinsomeX said it was Bidam's invention. No need pasting the link, I want to avoid further derailing.

Thanks. Would put up chapter 5 tomorrow!

So sorry Gombs. For posterity, i think. The link would serve for posterity.

BabaGnoni:
Lying? Scheming vengeance? Far from it
One minute you're rallying the calvary to send a PM
now like a dog with a bone, you just wont let it go, bringing other matters up, after saying I've backed away
Do you enjoy been mischievous, as I really don't know what your game is.

Twas funny when someone said to you " I FEEL LIKE SLAPPING THE DAYLIGHT OUT OF YOU!!!! It's still funny. You're pretending not to know you lied against me. As per your schemes, time will show, the Spirit of God sees the heart.

BabaGnoni:
^^^
https://i57.tinypic.com/34sp9j4.gif
Hold on to your knickers,
no need to call up the calvary
- I've backed away

To repent is to turn away, not back away. You should repent of lying, instead of scheming vengeance.

BabaGnoni:
If all of you, wouldn't restrain yourselves from continually derailing this thread, then yall can have the last word, as I will be doing the needful.

Drumb, demisquare, tman, candor, vook, lobby and co, when are you going to do Galatians 2 style on this Gnoni guy, or at least send him a P.M?