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striktlymi: Jesus demonstrated that he can live without committing sin but 'man' on the other hand has shown repeatedly that we are only too capable of committing sin

Actually, Jesus Christ BECAME US men to show us that we can actually please God and live an overcoming life. We are to walk in His steps, following Him.
Hebrews 7:26 For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;
1 Peter 2:21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:

Revelation 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

mazaje: When I say confusing, I mean that in one place the bible says one thing and in another it says something completely different. . .Example in some places, it says only the wicked and the guilty shall suffer here on earth, while in some places it says only the righteous will suffer here on earth. . . .There are so many such contradictions in the bible. . .

This your example i no sabi oh, care to quote? In life, there are situations where the hen emits chicken poo and then emit again and na egg. Same hen, same hole, no contradictions. Some may argue that this hen is not consistent. Context

frosbel: ^^^

Eternal life means to live for all eternity and never to taste death.

This becomes a physical reality when we receive new glorified bodies at the coming of Jesus Christ.

I hope you will agree with me , that in our current state we are mortal.

Do you have eternal life?

frosbel: " My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life" - John 10:27-28b.

Jesus by his resurrection from the dead now has the power to give eternal life to all those that believe, this is basic stuff.

This is the power and authority given to him by his Father.

To repeat, he is the author of eternal life, the life that will be imparted to the dead in Christ on the day of resurrection.

eternal life will be imparted on the day of resurrection? Lower and lower, hohohohoho, how low can you go?

frosbel: 47 facts for sure , ignore them at your peril.

i answered and refuted them already, learn the meaning of 'ignore'.

frosbel: indeed ! The Ostrich is also known to bury it's head in the sand and ignore all the facts !

wow, you're excellently painted in HD.

i hear that the ostrich hides its head in the sand to feel safe, and forgets how awkwardly the huge body is sticking out.

Logicboy03: Guy, commot for road.....you sabi spoil thread....kai...you be rotten egg?

yummie yum yum, truth tastes bitter yet again.

Funny thread.
It's a peripheral change from striktlymi. He was trying to be polite and all courteous with goats, then he saw their true nature and brought out the stick. i hope though that he doesn't flog goats to death, for that is not the point of flogging goats.

Hopefully, once beaten twice shy. She will never be dull enough to dress indecently in that area again. She reaped what she sowed, brazen indiscretion.

DrummaBoy: Quite on the contrary. There is no argument for the tithe; and if you know my style quite well on NLs, I don't do well in arguments. I would rather loose an argument holding unto truth than win an argument and be deceived.

no wonder. Its called been spineless i.e having no backbone but been tossed by the current.

JESUS CHRIST!

frosbel: Paul warned all MEN , not just Christians , is your false gospel so weak to save even the weakest of the believers , that God has to use the fear of torture and not the faith of love to keep his people in line.

Tell me, what father will use fire as way to make his children love him with all their soul , heart and mind ? No father will and certainly not the Father of lights , you better check up on which god you are promoting.

frosb, retentive memory is God's will for you.

This fellow is actually in agony (from his words). He needs someone to argue tithe with him and perhaps make him fill fulfilled. Who will answer?

Revelation 2:23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works. 2:27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.

huh! Precious Jesus, gentle Savior, meek and lowly, pure and holy! Thou needest a complete Bible frosb.

mazaje: I asked you if you will consider a parent that kills his children for disobedience a good parent. . .Do we go about killing people that drink? What about those that oppress the poor?. . .

For those that oppress the poor and crush the needy, take away their ability to oppress the poor and oppress them , imprison them with hard labor and make them labor for the poor, they will be humiliated and shamed. . .

For those that drink too much imprison them as well with hard labor. . .If the drink and go about causing nuisance. . .

Do you think or agree that killing people for disobedience is right?. . .Will you kill your kids if they disobey you and go about drinking?. . .

i asked you for THREE punishments for the same ONE set of people. You broke up the people and gave ONE punishment(imprison and labour). In this case, i actually do not see any reason for your arguments that God is not good, except your suggestion is not good but otherwise. If you read the passage you quoted, the punishment you are suggesting is the same thing that God was telling the people that He will do. So God does it and you try to paint Him as despicable, and i ask what you will do/suggest, and surprise surprise, you suggest the same thing. Actually yours might even be considered worse as it is your first and immediate recourse, while God tried other means first before going for your suggestion. Here it is below,
Amo 4:1 Hear this word, ye kine of Bashan, that are in the mountain of Samaria, which oppress the poor, which crush the needy, which say to their masters, Bring, and let us drink.
Amo 4:2 The Lord GOD hath sworn by his holiness, that, lo, the days shall come upon you, that he will take you away with hooks, and your posterity with fishhooks.
Amo 4:3 And ye shall go out at the breaches, every cow at that which is before her; and ye shall cast them into the palace, saith the LORD.
This is picture language for the captivity(imprisonment) that was to befall them. Here is another passage that says similar,
Hab 1:15 The Babylonians pull them all up with fishhooks, drag them away in nets, and gather them in dragnets. So they rejoice and are happy.
Any serious bible reader knows when this came to pass. God was telling them that they will be taken into captivity(for 70 years) if they did not repent. He then proceeded to tell of the prior punishments He had given them when they defaulted.
Amo 4:6 I left you with nothing to eat in any of your cities. I left you with no food in your entire land. And you still didn't return to me, declares the LORD.
Amo 4:7 I stopped the rain from falling three months before the harvest. I sent rain on one city and not on another. One field had rain. Another field had none and dried up.
Amo 4:8 So people from two or three cities staggered as they walked to another city in order to get a drink of water. But they couldn't get enough. And you still didn't return to me, declares the LORD.
Amo 4:9 I struck your crops with blight and mildew. Locusts repeatedly devoured your gardens, vineyards, fig trees, and olive trees. And you still didn't return to me, declares the LORD.
Amo 4:10 I sent plagues on you as I did to Egypt. With swords I killed your best young men along with your captured horses. I made the stench from your camps fill your noses. And you still didn't return to me, declares the LORD.
Amo 4:11 I destroyed some of you as I destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. You were like a burning log snatched from a fire. And you still didn't return to me, declares the LORD.
Amo 4:12 This is what I will do to you, Israel. Prepare to meet your God. This is what I will do to you, Israel!

mazaje: Satan didn't posses me and embarass me any where. . . My position is simple, killing is a normal human occurance or activity that doesn't require any supernatural agent. . .

Satan possessed you to initially insist that killing is normal. Now, you are trying to 'mean to say'. killing is not not normal human activity, it is a crime, it is abnormal and shocking from Cain till date.

You god is all over the bible killing people himself, bragging about it and telling people to kill others that refuse to obey him, is your god satan?. . . .

What exactly is the meaning of 'all over the bible'? Hope you are not still in the error/fallacy of hasty generalisation? If you read your bible, you would have observed that God is not satan. satan is the adversary while God is your Creator.

Your god has killed and commanded people to kill uncountable numbers people according to the bible, but satan has killed or has caused people to kill very very few people in the bible, unless if your bible god is satan. . .

You show your confusion yet again. Make up your mind, do you think God is satan or you think satan is better than God?

Anger has driven me to do so many things and it has also driven so many people to do many things. . .

The same way you have seen anger drive you and your folks is the same way i have seen satan lie. Stay focused. satan is invisible but can make you do things, like anger makes you do things.

Thoughs have nothing to do with satan. . .We have studeid how thoughts come about, we have never seen any satan playing a role any where. .If you can give us the mechanism he uses to get to our thoughts then you will be taken seriously, but so far all you have been able to show is that satan is just an imaginary construct. . .Thoughts have nothing to do with any satan at all. . .His alleged infulence can not be found anywhere. . .

i said "satan speaks PRIMARILY through the language of thought." You may want to read that more slowly so as not to miss out any detail or assume things not said. Who are the 'we' in this your quote, does it include you? i have already given you two mechanisms to use to observe satan, One the Bible, and two mediums. You have proven lazy and armchair thus far.
Heb 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
Any serious bible reader can correlate the actions of the devil with what is readily on ground(daily and global experience) and as described in scriptures. On the other hand, since you are unfortunate enough to be locked up in some country where you do not experience raw evil but only hear and dismiss. You can discipline and exercise yourself for strong meat. Our senses are primarily designed by God to readily perceive the physical. But there are folks that are 'gifted' and some folks that exercise themselves to experience other realms. This exercise may be achieved through discipline and denial of the flesh through means like fastings, meditations, prayers, and the other means i have earlier mentioned. You still remain free to live in denial and ignorance. Ignorance is bliss they say. i've seen folks that say HIV is an imaginary construct, and cancer is just white man propaganda.

flourishG: what is gosh n how does dats related to gal5vs1 n d subjects

Exactly,

shdemidemi: Is everything ok with you?

Yes, what do you think?

flourishG: meaning ask your judaizer leader Mr Ola or think thru d Spirit until d meaning hit your spirit.

you remind me of gosh. Are you his boy?

shdemidemi: .

Nice writeup but, are you sure about the above statement ?

What does it matter if he was sure or nothing? Are many atheists not sure of their statements?

frosbel: You won't understand.

please explain.

thehomer: Well one must try when the stakes are high. Looks like God doesn't love you.

God loves me too, i think too much sef. Stop the pointless.
Isaiah 45:9 Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, What makest thou? or thy work, He hath no hands?

flourishG: Gal 5 vs1

meaning?