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Logicboy03: Yes, you'd f4ck your brother's wife if he dies abi?

Mtchew.


Or do you believe that all atheists are fools? Is Seun a fool? Bill Gates? Dawkins?

I'm for one wife, and i believe that anyone who thinks there is no God is a fool. You seem to lack retentive memory, or are you not supposed to be one of the 'intelligent atheists' in your charts and graphs?

[quote author=Atheist:-D]What is unscriptural about the discussion? You are only expressing your knowledge of scripture and your interpretation of the scripture. If you cannot do this then you lack the capability to discuss without bible bashing.

It is called can an Atheist go to heaven?[/quote]a discussion that does not permit the use of Scripture is unscriptural, duh. can you please provide the link to your thread, thanks.

Logicboy03: Does your bible answer even address the issue of religiosity but backwardness of Nigeria? Is the average Nigerian living well?

good, so to this. It is righteousness that exalts a person, not religion. Religion is not righteousness. Many Christians and pastors would readily say that Christianity is not a religion. Many Nigerians are religious but not righteous. The Bible is packed with promises for the righteous, but not so for the religious. The religious are on their own as it were, but the righteous are in everlasting remembrance, and as many as seek the righteousness of God, blessing will be added to them.

Logicboy03: Yes and no.


While a highly educated rich man can easily drop religion and god because he realises that they are not necessary, there are still some who take religion seriously.

that a person, say a rich person, disbelieves God doesn't mean it is the right thing to do. You asked for the reason, recall?

what is wrong with the verses you quoted, and how do they disqualfy every old testament verse? two questions.

When one is born AGAIN, he/she becomes a child of God. He's born of God, and may well rightly be called a god. As many as received Jesus, they were given power to be sons of God. As many as received Jesus. You too can receive Jesus. You too can be born again. If it wasn't possible, Jesus wouldn't have said 'MUST'. You must be born again.

Logicboy03: The fear of God is not the beginning of wisdom.


You should have learnt that quoting the old testament as truth is erroneous.

where did you learn this useless information?

Logicboy03: Possibly?

I'm to possibly assume that you're satisfied with the answer to the first?

[quote author=Atheist:-D]Then you xan go to it. But before you head for the hills, do you believe ijawkids heaven is accurate or do you have something else in mind?[/quote]I'm not interested in unscriptural discussion with you. Where is the thread you mentioned, that contains those important two questions?

habeeb001: Please what violent tendency can you see in the post?

bigot muslims ALWAYS have violent tendencies. Do you curse BTW?

Logicboy03: Does your bible answer even address the issue of religiosity but backwardness of Nigeria? Is the average Nigerian living well?

confirm that this is a different question as i suppose?

The fear of God remains the beginning of wisdom. oh sorry, wisdom is not intelligence.

plaetton: And what is a success foundation? And what are christian values? hhmm.
Let me think about this.

Ok. I get it!
I guess if one comes from a christian home, with christian names and grows up with christian values(you mean christian hypocrisies), but later in life decides to poo on, and jettison all that crap, then one can be said to have possesed christian success foundation.
Very interesting revelation.
So true success foundation comes from pooing on ones christian values.

do you speak english?

Logicboy03: Look at your comments

Anyways, how does it feel to be a Jewish slave? I'm talking about your signature

lost for words, derailment of thread is not a very intelligent option oh.

Logicboy03: Telegraph has integrity, daily mail doesnt.

Anyways. You embarrassed yourself on this thread

hahaha, how again?

Logicboy03: Google scholar and telegraph. You cant ven get the details right and you are here claiming intelligence.


You keep proving atheists right

don't beat yourself, they're both news vendors. Spotting the names of newspapers is now a proof to intelligence?

obadiah777: LIKE FOR EXAMPLE. IF I SAY, 'THE HORN OF THE MOUNTAIN IS THEIR WINE'. THAT MEANS ' THE STRENGTH OF THE COUNTRY IS THEIR PHILOSOPHY AND DOCTRINE. YOU SEE THIS A LOT IN THE BIBLE. ETC ETC ETC ETC. SO TO UNDERSTAND THE BIBLE IS A PROCESS.

this doesn't ALWAYS apply. mountain Carmel is a mountain in Israel, not a country, and wine sometimes means 'wine' not philosophy. Jesus was accused as a winebiber not a philosophy biber.

obadiah777: I AM NOT FORMULATING THEORIES AND NEITHER AM I TRYING TO GET DEEP. 2 THINGS YOU HAVE TO KNOW FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO GET THE ALLEGORIES AND SYMBOLS

1-YOU HAVE TO BE A GREAT STUDENT OF WORLD HISTORY. THE BIBLE IS THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD, HOWEVER YOU NEED TO BE CONVERSANT WITH ALL THE EMPIRES THAT RULED THE EARTH FROM BABYLONIAN TO MEDIOPERSIAN AND GREEK ETC ETC. YOU HAVE TO BE FAMILIAR WITH THE KINGS OF THESE EMPIRES BECAUSE IN THE BOOK OF DANIEL, THESE EMPIRES AND KINGS ARE REFERED TO AS 'HORNS' AND 'BEASTS'. SO YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHICH HORN IT IS REFERING TO. LIKE FOR EXAMPLE IN THE BOOK OF DANIEL CHAPTER 8, THE GOAT IN DANIELS 8 VS 5 IS ALEXANDER THE GREAT OF THE GREEK EMPIRE CONQUERING THE RAM WITH TWO HORNS ( MEDIOPERSIAN EMPIRE ). AND THE LITTLE HORN IN THE BOOK OF DANIEL 11 IS ANTIOCHUS EPIPHANES AND THE BELLIGERENT LITTLE HORN IN DANIEL CHAPTER 7 THAT KNOCKS OFF THREE HORNS IS AMERICA. ETC ETC ETC. ALL WORLD HISTORY BUT CODED. YOU NEED A STRONG KNOWLEDGE OF WORLD HISTORY TO UNDERSTAND THE BOOK OF DANIELS AND REVELATION. THATS THE FOUNDATION YOU NEED. ALSO YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT BIBLICAL WORDS MEAN FOR EXAMPLE

HEAVEN = RULERSHIP
WATERS = NATIONS OF PEOPLE
MILK = THE WORD
WINE = THE WORD
MEAT = THE WORD
MOUNTAIN = COUNTRY
HORN = STRENGTH ETC ETC ETC ETC

THOSE ARE TWO STARTING POINTS

are you saying that everyone needs to be a great student of world history, having strong knowledge, to stand a chance of understanding the Bible? that's wrong. most part of the Bible are simple, plain and literal.

Evil Brain: Now this is tough. Logicboy has pointed out that there is clear statistical evidence that atheism is positively correlated with higher intelligence and higher education. But then, you've said that you're so much smarter that all atheists and you like to defecate on them. You can't possibly be lying, or a self deluded, blowhard with fantasies of having a brain. One of you must be right, but who?

I guess I believe your anecdotal claim over real evidence. After all, everybody knows that the words of random internet braggarts are the highest form of proof.

suit yourself, I'm sure it (google and dailymail) helps your confidence since you probably never topped your class.

[quote author=Atheist:-D]Dont worry image those 2 questions are in another thread.

I dont want scripture quoted because of the vagueness to scripture. Ppl can interpret the same verse etc to have different meanings. You can break the scripture heaven into my format [/quote]I'm more interested in the other thread.

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so what is the criteria for us to know/separate the literal from this 'almost every' allegory?
The Bible is best understood by the help of God's Holy Spirit, not by formulating ridiculous theories in the name of getting deep. The Bible was written for all mankind, a majority of which are simple people. It's not an esoteric book.

a lot of yadayada for the Yuletide perhaps.

strange things, the OP doesn't want Scriptures in a discussion about Heaven on a religion board? as in, is he high or low?
The most important questions are left out BTW. Two are, Will atheistd get to Heaven, and does atheistd want to get to Heaven?

obadiah777: LOL BUT EVEN GOD TOLD YOU THE BIBLE IS ALLEGORICAL AND SYMBOLIC.

PSALMS 78 VS 2 I will open my mouth in parables, I will utter hidden things <<< EVEN GOD TELLS YOU HE UTTERED THESE THINGS IN PARABLES AND HIDDEN WORDS. SO WHATS YA BEEF ?

so "I will" means every verse and chapter is a parable?

GSS 1, oh my saviour. The only lesson of note from this thread is that the OP is a muslim, and the OP has violent tendencies.

very funny, of course no. i shit literarily on all unbelievers anytime I'm privileged to write a test or be in the same class. most of the 'renowned' atheists got their success foundations from Christian values, have christian names, and were raised in 'Christian' homes.

God speaks to satan all the time. God speaking to you isn't necessarily a sign that you're doing right. The more sure word of prophecy has been given as a mirror for everyone. Make sure you're transformed by it.

obadiah777: YOU DO ERR. TURNING WATER INTO WINE IS SYMBOLIC SPEECH. WHAT IS WATER ? ITS MASSES OF PEOPLE. WHAT IS WINE ? WINE IS THE WORD. SO TURNING WATER TO WINE MEANS BE CONVERTED A LOT OF PEOPLE WITH THE WORD. HE TURNED THE MASSES TO GOD. YALL CONFUSE ALLEGORIES WITH LITERAL *SMDH*

i think i asked you three questions, not one. You don't appear to be a fan of the literal miraculous. The rate you go friend, even God will be explained as an allegory, not to mention me or nairaland.

Logicboy03:


The op is asking a question and you are replying with proverbs. Please, is this bible school or a religious forum?


Apply commonsense abeg!

i'd help you with other versions since your regal laziness does not permit you to think deep.
Proverbs 18v11

(CEV) the rich think their money is a wall of protection.
(GNB) Rich people, however, imagine that their wealth protects them like high, strong walls around a city.

The below is not from Proverbs, go figure.
Luk 12:19 And I will say to my soul, Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, and be merry.
Luk 12:20 But God said unto him, Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided?
Luk 12:21 So is he that layeth up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God.


There is your answer in case you are really looking for one.

obadiah777: SUPERNATURAL ? I DO BUT NOT IN MAGIC TRICKS <<<< WHAT HE SAID

again, what are magic tricks? do you consider turning water to wine, or one person putting a thousand to flight or death as in the case of Samson, as magic tricks?

Logicboy03: I am not a christian anymore. I dont speak in tongues, proverbs or parables.


Explain thy comment!

it's written in english? look for a 'friendly' version if this one is not easy enough.

Logicboy03: I am guilty of something at times. I close my ears when christians give some of their solutions to certain things since I dont want to hear any preaching.


So, now I want to hear answers from christians.


[size=28pt]So what do you think is the reason for the growth of atheism in the West? [/size]


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Proverbs 18:11 The rich man's wealth is his strong city, and as an high wall in his own conceit.