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There's nothing like Paul and Jesus. The words and letters of Paul are the words and letters of Jesus.

^that people from different parts of the world in different ages are ascribing it to the supernatural should at least bring some caution for the sensible. No one's saying that it's not common, what has been said is that it doesn't have to happen ever again. Can you stay with what i've said instead of jumping to conclusions?
I'm yet to say that i've never experienced it. I didn't say 'prayer' cures it, i said JESUS, even a simple call on the name for salvation would immediately stop it. And if you move closer to Christ, you can forever live without experiencing sleep paralysis again.

Eh ya, and the man died sha. Timeless agony

Idehn
I understand that you're spiritually blind, what's baffling is this. Are you also physically blind not to see that more than half the article you linked 'us' says that the view world all over is that 'sleep paralysis' is supernatural? I don't think i discussed the cause with you, what i mentioned was a SURE solution, something no one else's yet to do. Most keep hinting its caused by stress AND that it happened when they were young. Are they less stressed now than when young? How plausible is disbelief?

^so what have you said or quoted now that hasn't already been said? What have YOU ever 'tied' to the supernatural? Abeg go sleep if you can't see realities of life. At least thank God you admit to experiencing this one. Solution has been proffered by Jesus where as usual, research is still looking for. Nna Idehn, don't start o.

What is evangelism? Study the life and works of Philip the evangelist for a start.

What we lack today is the gospel in Power and in the Holy Ghost. An unregenerate/unchanged/unconverted person CANNOT receive the teachings of Christ(whatever that's supposed to mean). The flesh profits nothing. We can never be good enough or qualified enough to accept Jesus, we just accept Him. Just as I am.
What's been proposed is not too far off from the common "look at me i'm rich and happy miraclenia child of God, do you want to be a child of God?" gospel.

J.W? Those guys that don't want to go to heaven? Well, off i go preparing to go to Heaven.

^
It's so common because devil and his agents are real and want to take advantage of your life. It DOESN'T happen to me, neither does it happen to those that 'know' their God Jehovah. You can actually live without ever experiencing 'sleep paralysis' again for the rest of your life.

necta necta, repetition is for emphasis, though the repetition of my posts was due to network issues from an hand-held device. Stammer is speech defect very much akin to the way you, necta, writes(the new Image dictionary confirmed).

Like others have said, the 'official' name is sleep paralysis and someone already put up a link. There's an obvious trace to the spiritual in different countries and races. I don't want to join others in propounding theories and effects or consequences. But one thing I'm CERTAIN of, you don't have to experience it('sleep paralysis') ever again. The name of Jesus is a very sure repellant/cure.

JeSoul:
I do agree they may indeed be inseperable - but perhaps not on the same level of importance in the big picture. I'd like to see more thoughts from anyone, I don't want to talk too much . . .

Me sef don't want to talk too much o my siSta. Is it the mood abi na di season? 'ramadan' may be catching on lol?

Sweetnecta:
@Image123; « #20 on: Today at 08:42:46 PM »
Image123 is probably stammering so terribly that he is now double post. whats wrong, man? The real God is keeping people straight as an arrow. its the fake God [god] that keeps people confused. only such a mind will post as below; twice.

from the bold, are you sure you are alright? and to what follows, a mother who is not a wife is a concubine and her child is a bastard. bastard does not have the right of inheritance. what are the relations of Mary and her son Jesus to Yahweh/Jehovah, again?


Jews in their racist and supremacy minds in the bibles turned God and Guidance from Him to their own national and tribal identities in a sense of disadvantage to others around the world. they forgot that before them God and His Supreme Guidance were known by Adam and his mate Eve and their righteous son Abel and progeny in generations after him. That included Enoch and later Noah. So the jews when it came to them, after the common patriach that they had with Arabs of Makka where Muhammad [as] was a product; Abraham, the grand children or even great great grandchildren of Jacob began to call themselves children of God. read your bibles and tell me a verse where Abraham, Isaac, Jacod, even Joseph ever said God is his father. then show me a verse where Moses or Aaron said that he is son of God. Now confirm to be that Jesus is the only one in his time who is the son of God and the nations of Israel were not, sons and daughters of their own individual fathers. Even the sons of God your bibles say came down to get the daughters of man pregnant.

finally Jesus said father [a generic statement] in that verse, while he says 'my God', a more personal thing. even if he had said 'my father', it will not make any difference because every john doe and jane doe in the bibles, as long as he or she is jewish is child of Yahweh, even Yahweh; read what Jesus said: is it not in your book that you are Gods?. its your conscience, man. muddle it up.


i know man. i know. it is me who is insincere when i know that my father is a nigerian, the man who my mother had relationship with, not a fling but in marriage. or how is a father a father and a child of a mother is not a bastard? i also know that i am blind to see that 3 cant be 1 or 1 cant be 3 wholes.



this below is exactly as what i responded to above. whats wrong with that mind posting twice the same thing in the same post?

And so necta stammered again and again.

The name of the Lord is a strong tower. Try calling on the name of 'Jesus' or the blood of Jesus. It cures it even for sinners. Then start to live a life that glorifies God, whatever causes it would hardly/rarely come near you again. The name of Jesus is a strong tower, the RIGHTEOUS runs to it and is safe. Don't take the name in vain

@JeSoul
i think the two are inseparable.@JeSoul
i think the two are inseparable.

It seems the issue is with your monopoly on the naming. You gave your child 3names of your own choice from your story, even the yoruba name na you. So its like your wife wants an outside person to give the 'final say', not her not you not any tribe. Just an english or what people call christian name. It's a simple issue you should give in to one another.
Blimey! the kid may even dump all of the above in future for a cute name like 'obolangido'

@nlMediator
It takes 'DISCIPLINE' for reason to overcome emotion, and we don't have many disciplined people in the world. On the general, and by default emotion is stronger than reason.

@necta
i see you've been stammering, can't even pick much from the stammer. Can you try to sing it or something? From the little i could pick sha, the Bible says Mary was the wife of His 'father', what the Bible doesn't say is that Mary was the wife of His Father. You don't have to be a wife to be a mother do you?
And see you already disbelieving the scripture i quoted. So you believe He said "My God my God" but don't see Him say "Father into your hands I commend my spirit" OR "Father forgive them for they know not what they do".
i really don't have time now for your insincerity and blindness.@nlMediator
It takes 'DISCIPLINE' for reason to overcome emotion, and we don't have many disciplined people in the world. On the general, and by default emotion is stronger than reason.

@necta
i see you've been stammering, can't even pick much from the stammer. Can you try to sing it or something? From the little i could pick sha, the Bible says Mary was the wife of His 'father', what the Bible doesn't say is that Mary was the wife of His Father. You don't have to be a wife to be a mother do you?
And see you already disbelieving the scripture i quoted. So you believe He said "My God my God" but don't see Him say "Father into your hands I commend my spirit" OR "Father forgive them for they know not what they do".
i really don't have time now for your insincerity and blindness.

@necta
Like i said i'm not available to treat your issues but let me throw one proof.
"Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God: " (John 8:54).
Clear enough, now let's see your stammer.

^see nectar, you have more issues than i'm available to deal with. Plus you have problems with your idea of the Bible. you pick the parts that YOU FEEL favours your argument and try to discredit the parts that clearly make you invalid. That attitude won't take you anywhere important.

"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. " (Matthew 10:34-35).
I continue to find it true that there's no way the true gospel can be preached to appease everybody. Yet the gospel MUST be preached."Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. " (Matthew 10:34-35).
I continue to find it true that there's no way the true gospel can be preached to appease everybody. Yet the gospel MUST be preached.

^
No one can truly surrender to God without giving up his own self and will. It's what all true God's children do, and Jesus is our perfect example.

[quote author=Ka-Kaww! link=topic=719847.msg8780503#msg8780503 date=1311534855]Matt 26:38-39 42
Then he said to them, “My soul is very sorrowful, even to death; remain here, and watch with me.” - EMOTION?
And going a little farther he fell on his face and prayed, saying, “My Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as you will.” - REASONING?
Again, for the second time, he went away and prayed, “My Father, if this cannot pass unless I drink it, your will be done.” - REASONING POWER?[/quote]Some David beats up Goliath in some instances, but generally, EMOTION is stronger than REASON. BTW, Jesus overcame His 'emotion' by a surrender to God, a death to self and His own will which was already influenced by His emotion.

Patsey:
APPARENTLY YOU LACK THE DECORUM AND CIVILITY TO ENGAGE WITH OTHERS. MAY I THEREFORE ASK THAT YOU EXCUSE US ON THIS THREAD TO ALLOW OTHERS INTELLECTUALLY ENGAGE WITH THE ISSUE AT HAND. THANKS. PATSEY

Rib cracking and cranking. Funniest post of the week already?

Emotion and intellect are both functions of the soul. They know one another and affect one another. Like if you love something, you may know more about it. One thing must be noted though, EMOTION is stronger than REASON.

Saw this thread then. thought i replied it, or planned to reply it. Well seeing it's come up again, let's talk about it at least for the sake of the sincere ones. The passages are clear in themselves until people begin to muddle them up. It's like two happy friends or married people, then someone comes inbetween and begins to accuse one of infidelity and other terrible things. the other loses peace, trust and confidence, begins to worry and doubt, and the relationship may end up in a divorce or in an irreparable damage to the joy they once shared. And come to think of it, the insinuations was all a lie, just like huxley's and satan's subtle lies.
  Ok to my sermon, sorry, away from my sermon. A contradiction has been imagined or conjured up where there's none. The 10 commandments are clear to all, even non religious people know them. Though there's more to God than the 10 commandments. Obviously, the whole Bible is filled with dozens of commandments from Genesis to Revelation, and they are all God's commandments to His people, all expected to be obeyed. The "10 commandments" are first contacted in Exodus 20. Here they are;

[b]1.  Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
2.  Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
 And showing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
3.  Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
4.  Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
 Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work:
 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
5.  Honor thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
6. Thou shalt not kill.
7.  Thou shalt not commit adultery.
8.  Thou shalt not steal.
9.  Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.
10.  Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbor's.[/b] EXODUS 20v3-17.

  It's interesting to note that the 2 greatest commandments are not in the above word for word. They are in another passage and book. Here they are;
Mat 22:36  Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
Mat 22:37  Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
Mat 22:38  This is the first and great commandment.
Mat 22:39  And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.
Mat 22:40  On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
Here's the 'original'
Deuteronomy 6:5  And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.
AND
Leviticus 19:18  Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself: I am the LORD.

All of the Bible hangs on these 2 BY THE WAY. The point been made amongst others is that no part of the Word/law was to be neglected by the Israelites. They were to obey ALL, not just the 10 commandments, whatever they are, but Genesis to the end of the Word of God. NOW, what does the Bible say about the 10 commandments?
We know from hindsight that Exodus 20v3-17 are the 10 commandments. Its good to not though that the 10 commandments were not written by God on tables of stone in Exodus 20, it was written later. It was SAID among other commands in Exodus 20.

N.B Exodus 20:1  And God spoke all these words, saying,
It was after all the speakings by God, and possibly Moses writing down all, that Moses came in Exodus 24 and SAID/rehearsed what God had SAID to the people.
Exodus 24:3  And Moses came and told the people all the words of the LORD, and all the judgments: and all the people answered with one voice, and said, All the words which the LORD hath said will we do.
Exodus 24:4  And MOSES WROTE ALL the words of the LORD, and rose up early in the morning, and built an altar under the hill, and twelve pillars, according to the twelve tribes of Israel.

It is after these that God told Moses to come and get the '10 commandments' in tables of stone, AMONGST other things to be said.

Exodus 24:12  And the LORD said unto Moses, Come up to me into the mount, and be there: and I will give thee tables of stone, and a law, and commandments which I have written; that thou mayest teach them.
Please note the "I HAVE", God had written them, and even Moses had already written them and told them to the people as shown above. God was still going to SAY many things in the many details to Moses, but He had already written the commandments, Moses was to come get them. So you see God talk different things like sacrifices, shewbread, tabernacle, altar, oil, priest, clothes etc till Exodus 32 where Moses goes back, sees the idolatry, breaks the tables, goes back to God and in Exodus 34 is given the same thing on the tables with other things SAID, some new, some expatiated, some repeated.
Exodus 34:1  And the LORD said unto Moses, Hew thee two tables of stone like unto the first: and I will write upon these tables the words that were in the first tables, which thou didst break.
The bolded is clear enough to comprehend. God wrote the same things in the first tables. He also made a covenant (Exodus 34:10  And he said, Behold, I make a covenant: before all thy people I will do marvels, such as have not been done in all the earth, nor in any nation: and all the people among which thou art shall see the work of the LORD: for it is a terrible thing that I will do with thee.)
Please again, observe what God said, what Moses heard and wrote, and what God wrote.
Exodus 34:27  And the LORD said unto Moses, Write thou these words: for after the tenor of these words I have made a covenant with thee and with Israel.
Exodus 34:28  And he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments.
Observe the two verses and the bolded? Moses wrote the Penteteuch. God wrote on the tables, He wrote the ten commandments. Interestingly, that's the first mention of the phrase "ten commandments". God was so specific about it, He said it's the same as what's on the first. To confirm what was on the first though (the Bibles's so complete), we have Deuteronomy 5, such a clear passage.

Deu 5:6  I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
Deu 5:7  Thou shalt have none other gods before me.

Deu 5:8  Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth:
Deu 5:9  Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,
Deu 5:10  And showing mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments.

Deu 5:11  Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain: for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

Deu 5:12  Keep the sabbath day to sanctify it, as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee.
Deu 5:13  Six days thou shalt labor, and do all thy work:
Deu 5:14  But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thine ox, nor thine ass, nor any of thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates; that thy manservant and thy maidservant may rest as well as thou.
Deu 5:15  And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and that the LORD thy God brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore the LORD thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day.

Deu 5:16  Honor thy father and thy mother, as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee; that thy days may be prolonged, and that it may go well with thee, in the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.

Deu 5:17  Thou shalt not kill.

Deu 5:18  Neither shalt thou commit adultery.

Deu 5:19  Neither shalt thou steal.

Deu 5:20  Neither shalt thou bear false witness against thy neighbor.

Deu 5:21  Neither shalt thou desire thy neighbor's wife, neither shalt thou covet thy neighbor's house, his field, or his manservant, or his maidservant, his ox, or his ass, or any thing that is thy neighbor's.
Deu 5:22  These words the LORD spoke unto all your assembly in the mount out of the midst of the fire, of the cloud, and of the thick darkness, with a great voice: and he added no more. And he wrote them in two tables of stone, and delivered them unto me.

So what do we say of Jesus and Paul that the bible records to have expeRienced poverty, did it lead to 'more sin'?So what do we say of Jesus and Paul that the bible records to have expeRienced poverty, did it lead to 'more sin'?

IYA NGBALI:
so what happens to people of other religions?

You should be thinking more of what happens to you personally. I'm not the final Judge. What will you do with what you've heard?

It's knowing and accepting Jesus that takes anyone to Heaven. Jesus said, and He is the Way to God. Without Jesus, no one can GET TO God. And if you have Jesus, you HAVE TO be born again and holy. Heaven is a holy place filled with holy angels, and a holy God with His holy child Jesus and holy Spirit. Without holiness, NO MAN shall see God.

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Just something from your signature that interests me, it says 'Poverty is not a sin, it is something worse'. Do you believe poverty is worse than sin? Is there even something worse than sin?

How about 'give me the old time religion', a phrase so relative to the sayer. When's the old time religion, is it the one your denomination started with, or the one you think popular in the 80s, or the one of 1700, or the one of olden days.

@aio
There's truly no loyalty to the state outside loyalty to God. If one's loyal to God, he'll be loyal to the state. And we're to love others as ourselves, not more than ourselves.
2ndly, the man said(and you should perhaps applaud him for saying) that he's not an expert, not that he doesn't know anything.