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Anyone who wants to live with God has to be godly. God is life, you must possess eternal life. And the proof of that life is brotherly love. For he that loveth not his brother abideth in death. It is by our love for our brother that we know we're on the right path. Love for our brother will not allow us to lend to him with interest/usury. You couldn't. This is blood, this is spirit and these agree in one! It supersedes business school ideas. Love covers, it underrates yield sense. It gets us to Heaven. He that putteth not out his money to usury. You wouldn't lend to your brother with interest/profit in view.
You wouldn't take reward against the innocent. Reward may not only be money, it may be praise, acceptance, regard. You wouldn't do anything against the innocent but support him.
If you'll do all these things, the Word of God says, 'you will never be moved.' NEVER. You know, there are people who think that whatever you may do, God has already written some names and nothing can get you in that precious list. Well, the Word of God is above our thoughts, He says "he will never be moved." He's on merit list. His name is in the book of life, and no virus can erase it. But the condition, is that, HE DOES THESE THINGS. God's grace is sufficient to do these things, and we'll come boldly before that throne of grace, and get grace for the place prepared for us.

September 15 Psalm 15v5


5 He that putteth not out his money to interest, Nor taketh reward against the innocent. He that doeth these things shall never be moved.

Heaven is God's holy hill, nothing unholy can enter there. There are two destinations for all humans, Heaven or Hell. Heaven is the better option. It is the place where God is, and His holy angels. There's no pain in heaven, no night there, no darkness, no cloud, no sickness, no sadness. All evil belong in hell, a place of punishment. Heaven is a place of reward, it is not for everybody. If you've ever been at an awards event, you'll notice that not everybody gets awards: some are nominated, some are not, some do all the clapping, some do the presenting.
Heaven is prepared for the elect, the qualified, qualified by the blood of Jesus. Good news is that anyone, whosoever believes [/b]can be qualified. But it takes a 'want to', a desire, a running not as uncertainly, a purpose of heart, with ALL diligence. Heaven is not a lottery, it takes a [b]certain running, a defined path, just like in our Today's passage. In Today's passage and chapter, we have the path to Heaven.

Pilgrim.1 on top, oh dejavu.

^what can i say? I'm pleased to hear that bro.

Point i'm making is that God is symbolised by different things. He's symbolised by a book, a rock, by fire, water, ark etc all in scriptures. It all depends on if the individual is going to abuse the symbol.

[quote author=Tonye-t link=topic=508345.msg6751394#msg6751394 date=1284467714]Thanks bro for the analogy. . .this dove symbolism for the Holy spirit is one thing i am very appalled at. . .unfortunately it seems to be widely celebrated.! [/quote]What would you say as regards fire or tongue of fire symbolism for God? All things are lawful for me but all things are not expedient. All things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.

Ever heard of the word 'grace'? grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. John 1v17. It's a lesson of hope for you, that you who'se not 'sinned as much as Peter' can also achieve great things for God's kingdom. The klesson is as simple as that, except you want it in sermon format.

September 13 Romans 13v6

6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.

God does not like defaulters. We live in a time when defaulters are considered by their peers to be smart. They say "that's a sharp guy", "very smart woman". This wisdom is not from God, but is devilish.
The wisdom of God says "pay ye tribute also". The early church disciples obeyed the laws of the society in which they lived as long as it didn't oppose God's laws. We should take the same stand. Learn to pay your dues and taxes regularly.
Many people try to justify why they're not paying tax, or one bill or the other. But the Just One, the Just God is telling us in Today's passage, "Pay ye tribute also". Why? What is the major reason? Is it because the government is doing their work well? No! The major reason is because they are Ministers of God. Just like the reverends and pastors, apostles and evangelists, they are God's ministers. So for God's sake, start to pay your tax. Like a popular saying, 'Do your best and , '

September 12 John 12 v 36
John 12:36 While ye have light, believe in the light, that ye may be the children of light. These things spake Jesus, and departed, and did hide himself from them.


Languages may vary and upbringings may differ, even as worldviews may oppose but all over the world, people understand what it means to take advantage of opportunity. Opportunity is a universal language. It is important to man's prosperity to take up opportunities. To be fruitful, to have dominion, there's need to be on the look out and not miss opportunities.
Man is not created to slack, he is created in the nature of God. The Word of God tells us that God is not slack. People who are slack cannot get the best out of life. This is what Jesus is saying in Today's passage. While you have light, believe in the light. It's actually up to you. In another scripture, it says 'while it is called Today'. Some people think that they can serve God later. Many think that they can believe on Jesus later. Friend, you can never tell tomorrow. In years' time, you may not be able/disposed to believe the gospel as you can now.
Believe now! While the light is shining. You may be on the forum, and there are people ready to explain things to you, believe now. It may not continue like that forever. You may never get a dying bed to repent on. Believe in the light that you may be children of the light, quite straightforward. The onus is on you, not on God. Some people are waiting to understand the whole Bible before they believe, nobody does! Believe while you have the light. The messages you hear today, you may never hear them again. Grab the opportunity. There's only one life to live. Believe in the light. You may never know, Jesus may hide Himself. Today! believe in the light. Jesus is the light. He lights up the darkness. Believe in the light.

All Israel gathered themselves to David, yet not all Israel in the fleshly sense of grammar. And the stringing together of their desire was "Behold, we are thy bone and thy flesh". In the same way, we all will be gathered together to the Son of David as the bone of His bones, and flesh of His flesh. All the Israel of God. It is this unity of the Spirit that is needed, desired. It is described as holding the Head. You don't want to be holding anywhere else firmly. Christ only. In our actions, in our decisions, what would Jesus do, for we truly are His bone and His flesh.

September 11 1Chronicles 11v1

1. Then all Israel gathered themselves to David unto Hebron, saying, Behold, we are thy bone and thy flesh.


Marriage is honourable in all. Marriage involves a joining, synergy. God loves synergy, unity, partnership. God always seeks partnership with us. He says "come let us reason together". I think that's mind-blowing. God says let's rub minds.
Think about great minds, they say 'they think alike'. The greatness of God's mind is greater than the combining of many great minds that we can think of. And to imagine that we are privileged, summoned, drawn to reason together with God, awesome stuff. It is because of God's love for us, to have us united with Him. It is the picture that is portrayed in our Today's passage: the people of Israel became the same bone and flesh with their king David, just as in Eden. It was a sort of marriage, a communication more than flesh alone.

I don't know where to start with you. Where have you been since.you dis appeared only to show up when all are sleeping.

Be patient to start with me from the last two posts i made, they are just two. I've gone through ALL the posts on this thread, you can go through my two posts. BTW, who are the all that are sleeping? You seem to be 'awake'.

Read my posts over again don't draw us back your answers are there. I don't know if I have time for all these petty petty issues you raised again.

Sorry for drawing you back, but you are yet to answer to the queries, at least from a biblical stand point. Stuff like "James had title", "the gospel is deeper than James", "the Jews are not partakers of the package in christ", "Paul had greater light above the other apostles" cannot be left hanging in the air as petty petty issues. Or you'd rather we discussed "dying on top of another man's wife"? (seems that was your most recent enquiry on this thread)

Those were just part of some of the issues with James.he still had other issues , he is to be held responsible for the anointing oil business today which was one of the Jewish customs he introduced to the church. He was the only person that could call children of God sinners. Study the message of paul well. We will have less arguement.

I don't seem to have any problem with Paul, do I? You're the one who has problems with James and Paul. So show some fruit of the spirit and start with moi, thank you.

No mind me o nuclear. I'll take care. Perhaps there's hope and light at the end of the tunnel.

To even call him apostle to the Gentiles is an understatement. He is the apostle for the church. Because the grace of God has left israel to the gentile. So when you talk about the church now, It is the gentile.
Paul is the man that has the revelation of the church and who the Christian man is.

Romans 11:13  For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:
Joagbaje, i don de fear for you o! I see some others have talked with you on the above soo.

There are different levels of truths. There are lesser truths and greater truths.Paul had greater light above the others.
1 minus 2 in primary school =  impossible or cannot.
1 minus 2 in secondary school = -2.     Both are correct truths at their respective level.
the same way spiritual laws. Some things James says  may not be absolutely wrong in context based on intention of his heart. But wrong words were used in many of them. Paul had deeper truth.

Please produce scriptural backings and mathematical explanations to support the above bolded.

Concerning the issue of eating idol food. People generally believe it is defile, but be honest, from paul's perspective, there is no defile meat . There is nothing like idol.

1Corinthians 10:19  What say I then? that the idol is any thing, or that which is offered in sacrifice to idols is any thing?
20:  But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.

That's Paul's perspective in bold please. And he wrote against idolatry in his epistles. Jesus and John also warned about idols, so if they are the people you refer to as 'generally believe it is defile', a believer better stay with that team of James, Paul, Jesus and John.

But the script you quoted in revelation. Is talking about actual participation.

Revelation 2:20
20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.

Imagine a Christian doing masquerade in the yam festival in the village , saying it's  his culture. This is actual participation in idols. The fornication here is an idolatry Sexual play and form of temple prostitution. The same way the eating of the food is. This was one major headache of Paul ,with the Corinthian culture in the church. It is not the food content .

Come again please, revelation I quoted is talking about actual participation, and the script you didn't quote is talking about what?  Eating things sacrificed to idols is eating things sacrificed to idols. You want to pull out some stunts from the hebrew greek dictionaries here? fornication is fornication, whether it is an idolatry or an adultery. God is against ALL fornication and eating things sacrificed to idols. James was against fornication and eating things offered to idols, Paul was against it, the elders were against it, the Holy Ghost was/is against it, i am against it, i wonder why you call it kindergateen stuff.

If you study Daniel prophesy, we are in the 69th week out of the 70th week of Gods calendar.We are in the dispensation of the Gentiles , the Jews have been cut off from the light of God .This dispensation of the Gentiles will continue till the second coming of christ. So the Jews are not partakers of the package in christ. Paul was commissioned to bring the Gentiles in. But the Gentiles make the church. The Gentiles right now are the stewards of the mysteries in christ. The Jews still follow judaisim. Until the times of the gentiles will be over. So the church of christ is a gentile affair at the moment. .But the revelations of God to Paul is for the body of christ in general.

Stop making these empty statements, they are making too much noise. Are the apostles not partakers of the package in Christ? Did Christ not die for the whole world?
Paul was commissioned bla bla. you are making more than Paul made of this thing. What the scriptures record and teach is that Paul had more of a in-road into the gentiles than the others i.e the other apostles. Its not that they were blind to what he was called to do. Other apostles also left Jerusalem at one time or the other and preached to gentiles. At leas you know of Peter, you may know of John. These people were already converting gentiles when Paul was still a miserable sinner. And Paul didn't only preach to gentiles either. He preached to and had many jewish converts. they were all to storm the world, all nations and that's what they did, everyone playing his own part. And our friend Paul was the actor. He had massive impact in the gentile world compared to others. But he never claimed to be the ONLY one.
Ephesians 3:4  Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ
Eph 3:5  Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;