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Empiree:
My guy, you are full of hypocrisy or you are ignorant. Cuba, Mexico etc are close to US. If they decide to develop nuclear weapons or to join military alliance with enemies of US, US would bomb them. It is that simple. Russia is the region power in Eastern Europe. So Eastern European countries can not join NATO which is American and Western military wing. That was the agreement signed btw Russia and NATO countries decades ago that no countries near Russia would join NATO. If they do they would be crushed.



I always love it whenever people bring this up. I knew you would say this. First all, what right UN had to partition a country already occupied by Arabs and created another country inside Palestine for Europeans?. This first step alone was illegal. Second, let's agree UN is the authority to do that, why would they partition Arab land and give over 50% to foreigners and the rest to indigenous people?. Does this make sense?. And you expect Arabs to fold their arms?. What if UN do the same to your hometown in Nigeria?.

Secondly, for the fact that you admitted UN created this illegal Geno-State, this means Bible has no say here. The nonesense that God gave them the land according to your Bible is fraudulent. The British created Israel via United Nations not the Bible. So you people need to stop bringing Bible into this.


sorry I don't need story. Isræl didn't flight the 6 day war by itself and won against 6 Arab countries. Just like what is happening today. If you think Israel is fighting alone in Gaza and Lebanon, think again.

their problem, not mine. I don't support illegal annexation like Israel is doing in Palestine.


You say?



you are a confused human being. How does this relate to the current Europeans who called themselves Jews in Israel?. They are Europeans. They have no bloodline to the region. Shekel currency officially started in 1980 as a legal tender. David and Solomon that you mentioned were prophets of Islam. European Jews in Israel have nothing to do with them.

Palestinians are the indigenous Israelites not these European occupiers.. Everybody knows this except religious evangelical Christians with dirty mission.

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Gbadebo19:
Rubbish and nonsense. Do you even know the meaning of anything being said as an injurious remark?
You can as well say Israel wants the entire middle East and China, as well as Pakistan all the way to Afghanistan. Only a buffoon like you will take serious meaning to that kind of statement.
When it comes to Palestine, don't talk. Palestine was never a country that once existed, never had a capital, never had a king and never had a currency. Just because a piece of land, originally known as Judea was renamed Palestine and some imported races copulated with the remaining Jews that were a victim of Islamization doesn't necessarily make the land belong to their offsprings. I can't be reiterating matters that have been dissected over and over again.

Even according to your Bible history, weren't there people on the land before them?

If so, what makes biblical Jews the owners?

Empiree:
I suggest you read first Israeli PM Ben-Gurion before you say anything. He said the whole of Palestine is what they wanted all along but we should agree to partition for now but when time comes we will take the whole of Palestine (paraphrase). At no point in time Israel respects borders. Israel believes its borders extend to Lebanon, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, turkey, Iran, Syria. Do what I ask you to do before you post again. Thank you

Save yourself the trouble and ask him what settlement building is all about

WrriterNg:
⚡Palestinian sniper eliminates Idan Kenan, IDF sniper from Kfir Brigade, as he positioned himself atop a house near Netzarim, north of Gaza.

Kenan, known for killing many Palestinians in Gaza, was fatally shot in the head, ending his life instantly.

I saw the video perfect headshot

Cancri:
what about the Quran?

What about it?

Lawag3:
I'm not trying to convince anyone that the Bible is an objective book of history. Any piece of history I get from the bible has reliable backing from reliable sources.


Jewish history is more documented than Arab history with or without religious texts

Any history you post here, include links to the source material

That shouldn't be hard

Watcharena:
remind them that they can't present bible or any holly book as evidence in court

I did that already, even went several pages, but we're dealing with literal nutcases

In the Court of their minds, they'll serve as the greatest evidence of historical facts i.e. holy books

How some people want to objectively convince others that the Bible, a religious book, is an undisputed book of history is mind-boggling

Going back and forth with some people on this thread is guaranteed to make you lose brain cells

obedience4:
Suicide bombings against who? COMBATANTS OR CIVILIANS??

Shey you won't answer directly?

obedience4:
Bring your evidence.

Suicide bombings against who? COMBATANTS OR CIVILIANS??

THE JAPANESE USED SUICIDE BOMBINGS (kamikaze) AGAINST THE ALLIES

Brings your evidence that YPG are attacking civilians and killing civilians like your beloved hamas and hazebolla

P.s no Turkish propaganda please.

Answer my questions, you'll get your evidence

It's not hard

Do you deny they carryout suicide bombings? Are suicide bombings now acceptable?

obedience4:
The YPG do not attack civilians.

Bring your evidence

Why are you sidestepping my questions?

They're not hard to answer

Do you deny they use suicide bombings? Are suicide bombings now acceptable?

obedience4:
Prove to me the YPG using suicide bombings against civilians

I don't want to see PKk, just YPG conducting suicide bombings. And no Turkish propaganda please

Do you deny they use suicide bombings? And are suicide bombings now acceptable?

Answer those first

obedience4:
This is why I never wanted to get attached to the conversation, it clearly obvious am making a conversation with someone who does not even know what he is deliberating about.

You have been running in circles man!!
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There is simply no evidence or information of the YPG attacking civilians.

Going by your logic, why are you now lamenting about the YPG and the US military aid, when your darling Russia was also in bed with them.


Brighest bulbs indeed

Do you deny they carryout suicide bombings?

Who's lamenting about US aid to the YPG? I rebutted your claim of them not being terrorists because "they don't attack civilians like Hamas or Hezbollah", your words exactly

The fact that you're questioning why I'd criticize US' relationship with them because of Russia's stance on them, makes me question why you'd use the same Russia you so castigate as a standard and benchmark for US' actions

Moreover, look at my username well, I'm not a USA vs Russia guy, I'm a stand on facts guy

obedience4:
Oga shift abeg, stop running In circles, during the hay days of the Syria civil war, Russia was in bed with the YPG you can verify that.

Why has Russia not designated YPG a terrorist group??

The YPG and the PKk like i said are both kurdish in origin The PKk on the Turkish side why the YPG on the Syrian side. Both groups share similar goals. And that is the independence of kurdish people In both Syria and turkey. They are not the same group. And both have distinct ideologies and operates mostly in different theaters. The YPG in Syria and The PKk in Turkey.

The YPG has never carried attacks against civilians, something your beloved hamas and hazebolla can't deny.

ANTI WEST COUNTRIES, like Iran, China, etc have not designated the YPG a terrorist group.


This is my last take on the issue.

Why would Russia designate them a terror group when YPG has a history of collaborating with Assad's army?

You apparently don't know the meaning of them being inspired by the ideas of PKK's founder

For your information, YPG like PKK uses suicide bombings in civilian areas, how you want to pass lies that they don't kill civilians is nonsense

It's best you not only not respond, but avoid discussions on YPG on this thread henceforth, because your knowledge is bullshit

obedience4:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Defense_Units

That the Wikipedia of the origin of the YPG and it's structure and combat history.


The YPG is not designated a terrorist group ooooo

The YPG is a different group from the PKK

Who's running from you, I ain't have the time for unprofitable nonsense with you or any other clown.

If the YPG is not a different oraginszation entirely, why does Turkey and Qatar the only nations to desginate it a terror group, why not lumped it together as the PKK

I don't understand this English, paraphrase

The West's support for YPG has been a source of tension with Turkiye for years...the West not designating it a terrorist group, goes to show the innate hypocrisy they're known for

Collaborating with the YPG(PKK) in Syria will serve their interest, so they're 'good guys'. It's the same way Taliban were good against the Soviets, but evil against US and NATO

A group inspired by the ideas of the founder of a terrorist group (PKK), itself isn't a terror group...spot the irony

It's like saying Al-qaeda is a terror group but ISIS isn't, yet they're both inspired by Al-qaeda's founders

The pretense of them being 'democratic' was the US' idea to pass them off as sharing the same 'values' with the West. Just a smokescreen

obedience4:
How is YPG now PKK??
This are two distinct organisations.

Nato and the US and the European Union designated PKk a terrorist group. The YPG is not designated as terrorist group.

And the YPG is a different oraginszation from the PKK, although they share a common enemy in Turkey, and they both have kurdish origins. Both are two very different and distinct groups.

Only turkey view the YPG as a terrorist organisation due to its struggle for independence in the kurdish autonomous region.

Dude I don't have time to agure with you,
Don't quote me with your ludicrous nonsense.

Abeg shift

The PYD/YPG is a wholly integrated component of the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), an insurgent organisation originating in Turkey that many Western states, including Britain, recognise as a terrorist organisation, as does the European Union and NATO

https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/83715/html/

The YPG is heavily influenced by the ideas of PKK leader Abdullah Ocalan, who has been in jail in Turkey since 1999, convicted of treason.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/what-is-syrian-kurdish-ypg-2023-10-05/

You're the same guy who claims Mandela was a peaceful activist like Gandhi

Why is there a trend of people running away from me on this thread...first Gbadebo, now you

There's no hiding place from the truth

obedience4:
"Syrian Democratic Forces" Is not a terrorist organization, they don't attack civilians nor kidnap or kill women and children like your beloved Hamas.

Take your dictionary and look up the word "terrorist" and see if hamas won't fit the description.

This is a new day, I don't have time for any useless back and forth.

Shalom

Given your track record, this is probably a waste of time but, SDF is YPG, which is PKK, the group designated a terrorist group

A group known for carrying out suicide bombings against civilian targets

Allthelight:
If you follow my post u will understand I don't hate anybody.

I don't call for the death of Russians, Ukrainians, Palestinian, Israelis.
What I know is the Palestinians are not serious people.

You ask the world to declare you a state but your borders are not known

Internationally recognised 1967 borders

Allthelight:
See any attack on Israelis is not in the best interest of anybody.

Israel is armed to the teeth forget about what vic2023, v3ly post here..

The u.s can't force them to do anything.. I have known this for years, most countries cutting ties with Israel still do serious business with Israel (Turkey).


The resistance Hamas and Hezbollah are doing will not do much.. because the Israeli are well armed

Different US Presidents have exercised leverage over israel to make them comply with their demands

Who arms the israelis? Or are they completely self armed? Who are their patrons?

Hamas and Hezbollah know israel more than you do, they exist in the same space as them

Let's see if the israelis will choose to act in the same manner as they did in Amsterdam, then we'll know if putting them in their place is worth it or not

Allthelight:
I wonder when they notice northern Gaza is almost gone.... Each year a Palestinian state becomes impossible

All of a sudden now you care for Palestine?

Allthelight:
Guy does attacking them stops the war ?

Are the attackers now the law enforcers in that place ?

Well lets see how this solve the crises when Israel is building more corridors in northern Gaza..

No one attacked them, their actions were responded to

The law enforcers are dealing with the aftermath...they actively courted trouble and trouble came (1+1=2)

As for Northern Gaza, the israelis are land thieves trying to do what they do best, steal more land

The point is, if zionists behave, they'll be safe, but if they misbehave, they'll not leave unscathed

Allthelight:
Attacking them abroad even does the job of the Israeli government because they want to proof only Israel is safe for them...

So we see palestinians doing the job for Israel.

Your reasoning ability is astonishing, that's why you operate on your own wavelength

It's simple, israelis shouldn't go to other countries and be causing trouble, so they don't get attacked

It's really that simple...and the world sees the truth now, the victimhood doesn't sell anymore

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Gbadebo19:
I don't need em likes and shares.
Have you ever seen anybody making the right moves and who is actually solving the problem get accolades? No, it is only at the end that people later reason with em. It is the noise makers that get the accolades until the people realize he is just an empty head.

Back to your article.
In the absence of an official document, every article is an opinion of the writer. Thus, if you say par 3 is just the opinion of the writer, then par 2 is what?
By the way, I asked you for an official document in the earlier reply not what Trump said.

https://2001-2009.state.gov/s/ct/rls/wh/6947.htm

Download PDF file of WHAT WE NEED TO LEARN: Lessons from Twenty Years of Afghanistan Reconstruction by the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction(SIGAR)...you'll find some of what I wrote in there

Gbadebo19:
You think am not gonna read it?
A quick run through of both articles.
Article 1 is a total gibberish that doesn't in any way contain or support any of the objectives you listed. It is only about the withdrawal of troops and its replacement with private military contractors. Issues like this are not new in global politics. President Jonathan also hired south African private military contractors to fight Boko Haram (Can't remember it's name right now but just search Aljazeera, you find it) whose contract was cancelled by Buhari. The only article that talks about it is the second article.
After reading it, I am able to see your dishonesty and craftiness. The second part of the article is the one that lists the objectives you stated above, unfortunately, everything you stated was debunked by the third paragraph titled "The Real Objectives" which included dispossessing the only Muslim country with nuclear capabilities of its nuclear power which is Pakistan. This in itself is subject to scrutiny.
So, I want to ask, what again is your source? I am not the people who will give you likes and shares without a careful perusal of the gibberish you posted. Your so called objectives, stated in part 2 of the second article was debunked by part 3 of the same article.
Try again nigger!!!!

Don't try to be disingenuous

First of all, PMC's were in Afghanistan since the beginning and at each time they substantially outnumbered US forces. This is an incontrovertible fact

Secondly, the REAL(inferred) objectives as stated in the write up are three:
1. Geo-strategic interests, controlling the Afghan corridor (which I mentioned)
2. Exploiting of Afghan mineral resources to be used to 'rebuild' Afghanistan. Once again I made reference to this when I made mention of "securing contracts to rebuild Afghanistan"
3. Which is the only one you mentioned, controlling Pakistan's nukes

Thirdly, the third paragraph didn't 'debunk' it, the analyst simply gave his own insight into the US' hidden motives in his view

Now please show me which of the objectives, stated(official) or inferred(hidden), the US achieved in Afghanistan. I am waiting...if you can't point to at least one, then you must admit or acknowledge that they failed

Gbadebo, if you make good points, I guarantee you will get likes and shares. Just make good points

Gbadebo19:
I don't see any reason why you should be quoting me anymore on this thread.
By the way, can we see any official document that states the objectives you have listed above?
Always wanting your own Trust me bro sources to be the deciding factor.
Mtcheeeew!!!

https://www.globalresearch.ca/108000-private-contractors-in-afghanistan-and-we-have-no-idea-what-theyre-doing/5338211

And this

https://www.eurasiareview.com/19102017-reading-through-us-geopolitics-and-its-afghanistan-war-policy-analysis/

Read up

Gbadebo19:
Honestly, I don't rate you and can never do. I really don't think you understand simple A to Z.
When they say 2500 plus soldiers died in Afghanistan, it excludes those who were wounded, treated and later died. It excludes those who lost a limb and later died.
By the way, was it only in Afghanistan that US troops were engaged? US has bases all over the world. I don't know how you arrived at 600,000 and your sources but you could have done better by telling us the figures from the several theatres of operations the US was engaged in.

Objectives of the US invasion of Afghanistan:

1. Overthrow the Taliban
2. Install liberal democracy
3. Ensure the emergence of a western friendly government
4.Build an army capable of protecting the American project
5. Secure US contracts to 'rebuild' Afghanistan
6. Defeat the Taliban and ensure they are no longer a threat
7. Secure the Afghan corridor, for geo-strategic interests

Outcome after 20 years:
1. Taliban back in power
2. Afghan army conclusively defeated
3. Taliban more battle hardened and more equipped than ever before thanks to abandoned US hardware
4. Taliban becoming the sole authority in Afghanistan
5. The steady erasure of the US project in Afghanistan
6. The strengthening of ties with China, which has enabled China's inroad into the country

Define defeat again

About the low casualties claim, apart from the minimisation of the casualties, hope you're aware that PMC combatants were three times the number of US forces in Afghanistan. Most of the fighting was done by mercenaries and they suffered most of the casualties

You guys on the other side need new backup because time and time again, you fall way short

WriteerNg:
Na Ibime start all this nonsense for this thread.

He has nothing meaningful to contribute except bragging.

Your net worth no really concern anybody. Who Ibime dey feed for this thread?? NOBODY!

No be today it start, this fight don happen with am before

Make we just dey maintain small

People take this anonymity for granted

Someone who could literally assist in changing your life can stumble upon your posts and be put off, or be given a false impression

This is not directed at anyone here, but I'd like to think that most people here are mature, based on the subject matter of the thread and the contributions made. It follows that humility should be a cherished value here

One thing I've long noticed on this forum is that most active users claim to be well off and of a high status, while that may be true for some, there's definitely a lot of pretending and exaggerating. After all, most Nigerians are struggling right now

Make we do am small small, there's nothing to prove to anyone, you could ignorantly rain insults on the connection you've been desperately praying to God about, while bragging on an empty stomach as a means of expressing frustration

As for me, I'm a nobody, I'm just a struggling Nigerian and many here are richer than me

To each his own sha, just my thoughts

It's clear neither Iran nor israel want a confrontation

Iran struck harder because they had to, seeing that they had lost IRGC commanders, Ismail Haniyeh in Iran and Hassan Nasrallah to israeli attacks

israel's latest 'attack' is just a face saving action, intended to project power, but not enough to compel an Iranian reaction

Either way, I doubt we'll be seeing direct attacks by one against the other anymore, it'll likely transmorph to low level sabotage missions

FoolishBoy419:
That's not a big deal. Both Hamas and Hezbollah are militias who don't claim to be sophisticated or invinsible or Chosen people. They don't get billions of dollars per year.

As for Israel, this is yet another humiliation for her. This is a country that some brain-dead clowns are comparing with capable and self-reliant countries like Turkey, Iran, India, and even Russia. If billions of free dollars in arms and finance cannot guarantee them a decisive victory against Hamas, how then can they face countries with well-funded armies?

Iran woke up one day, brushed their teeth, and decided to attack Israel. They did it successfully and dared Israel to respond but since then, the chosen pigs have been waiting for Western arms shipments, battleships preseence, and THAAD systems. 2024 is the year Israel got demystified, and more disgrace awaits them on and off the battlefield.

That guy is hasbara, not worth the effort

Vic2023:
🇹🇷🇮🇱⚡- Yair Netanyahu, son of Benjamin Netanyahu, calls Turkish strikes on Kurdish positions a "genocide".

This idf reservist is balling while lesser zionists are called up and wasted...why won't netanyahu be 'stubborn' and insist on continuing?