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Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 9:22pm On Oct 19, 2024
sainttwist1:
i know they are not Muslim.....they are islamists
Do you even know what you're saying?
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 9:21pm On Oct 19, 2024
Lawag3:
The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him."


The above is quite clear it says the day of judgement will not come Until the Moslems fight the Jews and kill them .

Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him."


There is nothing in this verse concerning Isa coming. In fact he won't come until you guys have killed the Jews. I did not see any mention of the Dajjal either the verse was clear and explicit.


The HAMAS regards itself the spearhead and the vanguard of the circle of struggle against World Zionism... Islamic groups all over the Arab world should also do the same, since they are best equipped for [b]their future role in the fight against the warmongering Jews[/b]


It is evident that Hamas is following the tenets of Islam.


One of which is killing Jews.


Zionism is just an excuse. Because of world Zionism let's kill all the Jews in the world.
It's not even a Qur'anic verse, it's a Hadith (that's if you even know the difference)

I don't want to turn this into a religious argument

https://www.google.com/amp/s/islamqa.info/amp/en/answers/223275

Follow this link to educate yourself about the Hadith, your problem is ignorance
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 9:10pm On Oct 19, 2024
Lawag3:
Sinwar was released 2011 he was treated in the early 2000s.

It wasn't related.
Well they tried to use it to turn him into an agent

Betty Lahat, the prison system’s intelligence chief at the time, said in a TV documentary that she tried to use that event to recruit him as an agent.
“I said, the state of Israel saved your life,” she said. “I thought I could turn him into one of ours, but he wasn’t interested. He kept talking about the day he would be released. I told him you’re never getting out. He said there’s a date: God knows it.”

There was a date. It was Oct. 18, 2011, when Israel exchanged more than 1,000 Palestinian prisoners for an Israeli soldier held by Hamas, Gilad Shalit. Among those released “
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 6:40pm On Oct 19, 2024
Procashtips:
Seun the Mossad buy-out?
Good point
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 4:13pm On Oct 19, 2024
Crayfish09:
The idiot celebrated Israel's bombing of Aljazeera office some years back and he still defends Israel's assassination of journalists.
There's no use seeking logic or sense with Uprightness100, he's just who he is
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 3:09pm On Oct 19, 2024
Vl3ly:
that guy sick for head
Uprightness100 na my guy, he dey make me laugh
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 3:02pm On Oct 19, 2024
shoodboi2:
He definitely does. Many of them follow this read. They just read but don't comment.
If Seun properly ran this site, people like WrriterNg would be rewarded, or at least acknowledged, for giving it prestige through threads like this
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 2:59pm On Oct 19, 2024
WrriterNg:
Exactly!


They accuse me of being Muslim & being a terrorist everytime my thread hits front page.

Do i need to be a Muslim before I stand against the Israeli genocide of Palestinians? Why are people this heartless?

Anyways, one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter, so I'm not bothered.
Palestinians aren't all Muslims. There are Christians, Druze, atheists and even some Jews identify as Palestinians

Ignorance is the problem
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 1:32pm On Oct 19, 2024
WrriterNg:
I'm struggling to keep count of Russian submarines and ships built and commissioned this year.


But 🤡 western propaganda networks still claim that Russia has only 64 submarines
Russia is a military juggernaut

If Nigeria wants to truly be secure, it has to look the way of Russia, even though I know we're currently enslaved to the West, which has little interest except subjugation and exploitation
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 1:16pm On Oct 19, 2024
shoodboi2:
Is it my name he spelled as shooidoo or is someone else? Righteousness or whatever you call yourself, who are you referring to?
Bro na you o cheesy

Turns out he keeps tabs on this thread grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 12:34pm On Oct 19, 2024
Lawag3:
I heard while he was in the Jewish prison he had a terminal illness and was treated at a Jewish hospital by Jewish doctor


When Israel saved Yahya Sinwar's life
Ironically, Israel had put a target on a man whom it had once saved from certain death. In the early 2000s, while in prison, Sinwar began experiencing headaches and blurred vision, as per a Bloomberg report that narrates the interesting episode in his life. He was taken to the Soroka Medical Center in Beersheba where a surgeon removed a brain tumor, saving his life.


There's a whole documentary on this Sinwars word to the doctor is I own you my life.

The doctor's son was killed on Oct 7th
I'm curious as to whether Sinwar being treated for his brain tumor had anything to do with Gilad Shalit's captivity

Hamas insisted that Sinwar be among those released in exchange for Shalit and allowing him to die without surgery, would have definitely jeopardized an exchange deal

Note that Sinwar was released in the Gilad Shalit deal, so I strongly doubt that the treatment he received was out of the goodness of the heart of the Israelis

Moreover, some of the freed captives of October 7 made it clear after being released that, Sinwar personally addressed them in Hebrew and ordered they be well taken care of, which many of them said they were, so i doubt he hates jews
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 12:25pm On Oct 19, 2024
Like I once stated, you have to give it to Hamas' counter-intelligence capabilities

The fact that the only top Hamas figures that have been killed due to Intelligence work, have been outside of Gaza I.e. Ismail Haniyeh, Saleh al-Arouri. Sinwar was killed by chance

Muhammad Deif, a prime target, is in Gaza and still alive. The captives are out of reach and well hidden and the fact that Sinwar was above ground fighting, yet wasn't detected is remarkable. Ironically, if he'd stayed underground in tunnels like his detractors claimed he was, he'd be alive today

This is all despite the fact that the US and UK have sent 'advisors' and 'equipments' to help in locating captives, which has turned up very little in the tiny strip of land that is Gaza

Remarkable
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 12:13pm On Oct 19, 2024
motayoayinde:
It's even a stupid question that only Islamophobes will ask.

Jewry, Judaism, Israelism, Zionism are all deeply rooted in religion.

The current Israeli government is made up of ultra-extreme, deranged, religious fanatics who believe that every of their genocidal action is divinely inspired.

Natanyahu quoted verses from the Jewish scriptures, likening the Palestinians to Amalekites who should all be wiped out at the beginning of this war.
This attempt to paint Palestinian Resistance as a religiously fanatical endeavor is nonsense

Among the groups fighting today in Gaza, there are communist groups and secular groups fighting along with religiously driven groups like Hamas and Islamic Jihad. It's a National struggle

The Abu Ali brigades of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) is a Communist group and strongly believes only fighting will liberate Palestine and refuses to recognize israel

The Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades is the armed wing of Fatah, a secular group fighting alongside Hamas

The remaining groups are such as well, they're 8 in total, each representing a strand/segment of Palestinian society, fighting for their homeland

The funny thing is that some of the most legendary Palestinian Resistance figures are Christians E.G Hanan Ashrawi, Georges Habash ( founder of PFLP), Daniel Abu Hamama, Hilarion Capuchi etc.

It's a National struggle fullstop
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 11:45am On Oct 19, 2024
sainttwist1:
I think everyone here know what is going on but very few are doing it for argument seek and majority are doing it because of their religion affiliation, it is a form of jih.....

You better don't waste your time......they will still ask you to bring proof
Majority of posters here aren't Muslims
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 11:43am On Oct 19, 2024
NothingDoMe:
And he's cashing out on the Terrorists while using the money to fund his country. 🤷.

Terrorists are not very smart it appears.
This is what is called clutching at straws
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 11:41am On Oct 19, 2024
Alamkir:
I heard yahaya Sinwar was in isreali prison for more than 20 years, 23 years precisely, he came out 13 years ago and take up arms against Israel immediately. Hero
The man dedicated his life to the cause of his people
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 11:39am On Oct 19, 2024
Dropping this here grin

I can't speak for the others, but as for me, I like your thread Uprightness100, continue updating us

Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 11:26am On Oct 19, 2024
Lawag3:
I don't want to call you a liar maybe you are or maybe you're just ignorant. Let me help you.


The Hamas Covenant

The Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement was issued on August 18, 1988. The Islamic Resistance Movement, also known as the HAMAS, is an extremist fundamentalist Islamic organization operating in the territories under Israeli control. Its Covenant is a comprehensive manifesto comprised of 36 separate articles, all of which promote the basic HAMAS goal of destroying the State of Israel through Jihad (Islamic Holy War). The following are excerpts of the HAMAS Covenant:​​​​​​​​​​​​​

​Goals of the HAMAS:
​"The Islamic Resistance Movement is a distinguished Palestinian movement, whose allegiance is to Allah, and whose way of life is Islam. It strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine." (Article 6)



On the destruction of Israel:

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it." (Preamble)
( yeah the destruction of Israel by ISLAM)
Note: this is not a religious war.


The exclusive Moslem nature of the area:

"The land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf [Holy Possession] consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgment Day. No one can renounce it or any part, or abandon it or any part of it." (Article 11)

"Palestine is an Islamic land... Since this is the case, the Liberation of Palestine is an individual duty for every Moslem wherever he may be." (Article 13)



The call to jihad:

"The day the enemies usurp part of Moslem land, Jihad becomes the individual duty of every Moslem. In the face of the Jews' usurpation, it is compulsory that the banner of Jihad be raised." (Article 15)

"Ranks will close, fighters joining other fighters, and masses everywhere in the Islamic world will come forward in response to the call of duty, loudly proclaiming: 'Hail to Jihad!'. This cry will reach the heavens and will go on being resounded until liberation is achieved, the invaders vanquished and Allah's victory comes about." (Article 33)



Rejection of a negotiated peace settlement: Like they have always done. But it's Israel that doesn't want the two state solution.

"[Peace] initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement... Those conferences are no more than a means to appoint the infidels as arbitrators in the lands of Islam... There is no solution for the Palestinian problem except by Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are but a waste of time, an exercise in futility." (Article 13)



Condemnation of the Israel-Egypt Peace Treaty:

"Egypt was, to a great extent, removed from the circle of struggle [against Zionism] through the treacherous Camp David Agreement. The Zionists are trying to draw other Arab countries into similar agreements in order to bring them outside the circle of struggle. ...Leaving the circle of struggle against Zionism is high treason, and cursed be he who perpetrates such an act." (Article 32)



Anti-Semitic incitement:

The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him." (Article 7)


You said Hamas' founding charter doesn't state all Jews should be killed, please explain the above.

"The enemies have been scheming for a long time ... and have accumulated huge and influential material wealth. With their money, they took control of the world media... With their money they stirred revolutions in various parts of the globe... They stood behind the French Revolution, the Communist Revolution and most of the revolutions we hear about... With their money they formed secret organizations - such as the Freemasons, Rotary Clubs and the Lions - which are spreading around the world, in order to destroy societies and carry out Zionist interests... They stood behind World War I ... and formed the League of Nations through which they could rule the world. They were behind World War II, through which they made huge financial gains... There is no war going on anywhere without them having their finger in it." (Article 22)

"Zionism scheming has no end, and after Palestine, they will covet expansion from the Nile to the Euphrates River. When they have finished digesting the area on which they have laid their hand, they will look forward to more expansion. Their scheme has been laid out in the 'Protocols of the Elders of Zion'." (Article 32)

"The HAMAS regards itself the spearhead and the vanguard of the circle of struggle against World Zionism... Islamic groups all over the Arab world should also do the same, since they are best equipped for their future role in the fight against the warmongering Jews." (Article 32)
Now from the revised charter

. There shall be no recognition of the legitimacy of the Zionist entity. Whatever has befallen the land of Palestine in terms of occupation, settlement building, judaisation or changes to its features or falsification of facts is illegitimate. Rights never lapse.

20. Hamas believes that no part of the land of Palestine shall be compromised or conceded, irrespective of the causes, the circumstances and the pressures and no matter how long the occupation lasts. Hamas rejects any alternative to the full and complete liberation of Palestine, from the river to the sea. However, without compromising its rejection of the Zionist entity and without relinquishing any Palestinian rights, Hamas considers the establishment of a fully sovereign and independent Palestinian state, with Jerusalem as its capital along the lines of the 4th of June 1967, with the return of the refugees and the displaced to their homes from which they were expelled, to be a formula of national consensus.


Now the bolded is what spoilt previous negotiations because then Palestinians can live within Israel . You get.


On your last bit this is a political not a religious thread.

Use the quranic references in my post.
There are only two points that require my attention out of all these you've stated, because all the others all make clear that Hamas' fight is against the Zionist State of israel and Zionism

Secondly, I won't even bother to double check anything you've written there because nothing debunks my points

Now to my response:

1. The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him." (Article 7)


The above is a foretelling of Prophet Muhammad about the end times, when Jesus (Isa) will come back and will lead the Muslims to defeat the anti-Christ (Dajjal). The prophecy states that Jews are waiting for a Messiah and a lot of them will accept the Dajjal(anti-Christ) as such when he shows up, there'll be battles and eventually, Jesus (Isa) will come and lead the Muslims to victory against them, killing the anti-Christ. It's when that happens, that even rocks and trees will speak.

The Article you quoted is not a command to kill Jews, it's a prophecy of end time events, the actual text is very long and I'm certain Hamas put it there as motivation, seeing it as some sort of promised outcome

2. Claiming negotiations failed because of any provision of a Hamas Charter is false, there's never been negotiations between Hamas and Israel for a Two State Solution, it's always been between the PLO/PA and israel

3. Hamas' Charter is only a response to the Provisions of the Likud Party Charter( founded 1973) which contains thus:

The original 1977 party platform stated that "between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty."

The 1999 Likud Party platform emphasized the right of settlement:

The Jewish communities in Judea, Samaria, and Gaza are the realization of Zionist values. Settlement of the land is a clear expression of the unassailable right of the Jewish people to the Land of Israel and constitutes an important asset in the defense of the vital interests of the State of Israel. The Likud will continue to strengthen and develop these communities and will prevent their uprooting

The 'Peace & Security' chapter of the 1999 Likud Party platform rejects a Palestinian state:

The Government of Israel flatly rejects the establishment of a Palestinian Arab state west of the Jordan river. The Palestinians can run their lives freely in the framework of self-rule, but not as an independent and sovereign state. Thus, for example, in matters of foreign affairs, security, immigration, and ecology, their activity shall be limited in accordance with imperatives of Israel's existence, security and national needs

This makes clear the rejection of any Palestinian State and even claims a right to Palestinian land and erasure of Palestinians

Note that Likud was formed in 1973 and Hamas in 1987. Today, Likud is in power and the knesset has passed a resolution rejecting the establishment of a Palestinian State

4. Like I stated, Hamas revised it's Charter in 2017 and even removed the 'controversial' Article 7 from it and several others

5. The claim Israel wants peace and Palestinians don't want it is bogus.

You can call me a liar, I don't care, I only speak on what I know
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 10:54am On Oct 19, 2024
Procashtips:
Just like other resistance fighters follow a religion majority of those within it practice.
Exactly
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 10:44pm On Oct 18, 2024
0neal:
When the basal instinct for survival kicks in, rules of engagement flies away...especially when the enemy (Iran) has sworn to no rest until Isreal is wiped off the map or erased from the pages of time.

It is called WAR

Do you think some of the soldier either knowingly or mistakenly shooting those unharmed civilians were given orders from their superiors?
and do you think all the soldiers will carryout the orders to the latter without some having a moral issue with the order?

You proved my point fighting an unconventional army with no standard uniform is messy, even the IDF killed their own people.
They killed their own people unarmed and waving white flags

If you don't gerrit forget about it
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI:
Lawag3:
Is killing Jews part of the principles of Islam.


Since in the Hamas founding charter the Death of all Jews is part of it.


They took kill the Jews where ever you may find them literally isn't it.
1.Hamas' founding charter doesn't state all Jews should be killed, it states that they're committed to the destruction of the Zionist State as they refer to it

2. There are videos on YouTube of Ahmad Yassin Hamas' founder, clearly stating that their fight isn't against Jews or Judaism, because in his own words "they're a people of religion like us", rather their fight is against the oppressive Zionist State

3. Hamas amended it's Charter in 2017 to include accepting a Palestinian State side by side with the Zionist State, inline with the Internationally recognized 1967 borders. So Hamas in 2017 made the recognition of israel a formal stance, on condition of a Palestinian State

4. If your last paragraph is a reference to the Qur'an, please quote the verse, it's citation (i.e. what Chapter and verse) and let's analyze it

Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 9:13pm On Oct 18, 2024
Lawag3:
Why is Hamas called the Islamic resistance movement?
They follow the principles of Islam
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 9:12pm On Oct 18, 2024
NothingDoMe:
And terrorist lover. Or maybe it's just their cash he loves. Cashing out on them with antisemitic nonsense. 🤣
The guy is a jew
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 5:57pm On Oct 18, 2024
Vic2023:
I'm not sorry to say this, you are mad!
cheesy ah ah wetin happen?
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 5:33pm On Oct 18, 2024
Vic2023:
this is one proof
Why are you bothering yourself, these things were all over the news when they happened and we discussed them here extensively

These guys know all these things, they're not interested in the truth, some of them are bots and to some, Palestinians don't exist, only israelis do
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 5:29pm On Oct 18, 2024
motayoayinde:
Doesn't make much difference really.
Hezbollah has shown that killing these leaders is just a worthless stunt that puts Israel in a worse position.
Now Hamas has said there'll be no deal to release captives unless there's a ceasefire

Whoever believes the will of Hamas is broken, or they're teetering on defeat is 'jonesing'
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 2:33pm On Oct 18, 2024
Cancri:
and those legions of new fighters will met thesame fate as he did
As will their enemies
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 11:19pm On Oct 17, 2024
Jovi10:
You're just wasting your time trying to impact knowledge into a basket grin grin grin it will keep leaking out cheesy grin
grin grin lol
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 11:06pm On Oct 17, 2024
Jovi10:
That one know get brain just ignore am grin
grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 9:20pm On Oct 17, 2024
Alamkir:
I thought he was not in Palestine.
Ironically, the news of his death rubbishes the attempts to paint him as a coward and exposes the limits of Israeli intelligence

We read propaganda like:

1. He has fled Gaza
2. He's hiding in tunnels surrounding himself with 'hostages' and that's why Israel can't secure their release
3. He's living large while letting Palestinians suffer
4. He's holed up in a tunnel somewhere secure and under civilian buildings

But the reality is that he was the opposite of those things:

1. He personally led his men
2. He was in the heart of battle
3. He was an exemplary leader
4. He wasn't hiding
5. He died just like his Palestinian people in Gaza

His death will inspire legions of new fighters
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 7:36pm On Oct 17, 2024
DystopianMuse:


🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡🤡
SIN-WAR

SIN was his compass, WAR was his creed,
A heart that knew no mercy, no heed.
Now he lies silent, his wars are done,
His sins have ceased beneath the sun.

- Imam Tawhidi



Congratulations humanity.
I'm curious, does this end the Resistance?

If not, you must agree there's little to celebrate

Moreover, you should admit you lied about him being in a tunnel
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 7:34pm On Oct 17, 2024
DystopianMuse:
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

COPING MECHANISM

LIW TO YOURSELF ALL U CAN
Hamas' history is littered with killed leaders

Infact, before Hamas, the same was the case for the PLO. The reality is that anyone who assumes leadership of a Palestinian resistance group expects to die

One thing many of you don't take into account is that, Palestinians know Israelis more than you do. They know fully well what they're up against

Only someone who isn't aware of the history of Palestine and it's resistance movements will call it a coping mechanism

It's a fact

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