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FamilyRe: Being A Strong Woman Isnt Remarkable, It's Normal - Adichie by innervoice(m): 1:18pm On May 31, 2015
Chinom:
Ol' boy, your sense of equality is warped. The fact that men don't feel uncomfortable with s.exist comments from women only serves to confirm that we are not equal. If we were equal or rather if society considers us equal, then s.exist comments and sexual harassment should carry the same weight irrespective of the gender.
And who told you that we were biologically equal?
Can you see that you are discussing something here that you have no proper comprehension of?

If a woman pinches my butt, I laugh it off. If I pinch a woman's butt, I could go to jail for that. Maybe, this answers your question about how women are more protected by the society. I know the laws are there, but try convincing a Judge that a women raped you. You will be considered a clown. People will just laugh at you. Societal perceptions affects the ways laws are implemented. And this favours women big time.
Another fallacy. The fact that you laugh it off when a woman pinches your butt does not mean that you cannot sue a woman on grounds of it.
How you respond to it is your business, before the law you are equal and you don't have to accept it.
FamilyRe: Being A Strong Woman Isnt Remarkable, It's Normal - Adichie by innervoice(m): 1:14pm On May 31, 2015
craziebone:
the fact is...nature makes it in such a way that men are disposable, that's why even though Almajiri is synonymous with boys, the society is more likely to talk about the girl child that was handed in marriage the socity would rather build government girl's college. At the last count, there are 10 million almajiri boys out there.
How does nature make men "disposable"?
Have boys ever been excluded from (higher) education?

The issue of homelessness among men is there. What about crime rate? That is still there. It is ingrained in the psyche of the human being to see men as a threat and that's why most extrajudicial killings are almost 100percent men! The society doesn't seem to take note of male issues very much if anything, it is more interested in what he is not doing right.
This is very true. Most societies are blind to the plight of the male gender. However, Western societies are slowly getting there. For example, there have been quite an amount of research done in the last decade on how boys' needs are being neglected and not properly taken care of in nursery schools and how boys are at a disadvantage at schools for being more lively and having a greater desire to move and be adventurous whereas girls are more likely to sit still and take pleasure in writing (beautifully).

How did they get there? They have accepted that women's rights and position in society was often unfair. In this way, they have become sensitive to male gender issues. Feminism, and most people in the West will probably agree, has achieved most of what it stands for. However, they will also say that some other countries still have a long way to go.

And I say, if we do not empower women, we will also weaken men, and the society as a whole.


You are the one who is seeing the advantages and disadvantages. The likes of Chimamanda, who are responsible for shaping policies around the world, do not see this. That's why she talks only of a male privilege.
Mrs Adichie is a woman who grew up in Nigeria and was educated in the US. When you compare those two societies you will not be able to deny that the life for an American woman is, in many ways, easier than for a Nigerian woman. Let us not be blind to the plight of any gender. Let us not neglect the fact that many Western women have privileges that the African woman can only dream of.

And we are saying no, there are some 'privileges' we cannot do anything about and this also goes for women. The fact that the human being feels a natural sympathy for women, is a privilege.
The "natural sympathy" that you speak of is (correct me if I am wrong) the result of natural differences such as physical weakness / strength.
Yes, women do need special protection. They are more likely to be ra.ped, they have to carry a pregnancy and deliver, they are more prone to be infected with STDs and they bleed every freaking month, which is a challenge all by itself. Sometimes I wonder how my wife makes it to work during her menses, considering they way she feels and looks.

Considering all this, the sympathy is the least we can do. But it does not mean that men should be ignored.


This all important privilege is the reason feminism took could achieve things in the first place. If it took feminism 50 years to get its message across, it will take the MRA 200 years to achieve half that feat. Men already understand what women have to go through and that's why there is a ministery of women affairs, there is more research to find cure to cancer that affects women even though those cancers kill fewer women than postrate cancer kills men. I have also mentioned the government girls college. What about the preferential treatment given to women when it comes to boarding the school shuttle? What about parents giving more pocket money to their female children than they do their males? What about the more visiting days parents attend in girls boarding houses than they attend in boys?
You are probably one of those of men who understands women (not easy at all grin) but please read through the comments some other people publish here and listen to some Nigerian folks off NL. Listening to them makes me understand why feminism is still on the agenda.

At the same time, I can also see why some females are unlikely to have a happy relationship. They are not better than the men they fight here.
FamilyRe: Being A Strong Woman Isnt Remarkable, It's Normal - Adichie by innervoice(m): 12:41pm On May 31, 2015
iPopAlomo:
How many women have been forced to resign/sued/sacked for a sexist comments made to a guy or another woman...?

All these woman wrapper men on nairaland sef...
Woman wrapper is a cheap tactic. Just sayin'

How many times in your life have you felt uncomfortable because of s:exist comments?
FamilyRe: Being A Strong Woman Isnt Remarkable, It's Normal - Adichie by innervoice(m): 12:39pm On May 31, 2015
Chinom:
Yes, I know it is an extreme situation. I was using it to buttress the point that there are situations in which men are singled out just for BEING A MAN. That terrorist or kidnapper never asked who was more educated, richer or more beautiful. No, we are chosen based purely on our gender.
Nobody disagrees that there are situations in which men "are singled out for BEING A MAN." You don't have to take terrorism as an example to make your point since most terrorists are male, too. Hence, I believe, that this is not a good example. And also because terrorism affects both, men and women, in a very severe way. Who were the people from Chibok who were kidnapped and forced to get pregnant for their kidnappers?


Same thing happens in most military and para-military formations. I just think that women should be happy the way things are now. There is absolutely no need for any form of feminist movement anno 2015. We are getting along just fine as it is. Most women in Islamic societies, as well as rural communities are just comfortable with their lives as it is. It's all these Western educated, city women that are trying to create an imaginary problem.
Firstly, you or anyone else telling them to be happy with things the way they are now will neither change anything for the better nor will it end the never-ending discussions on gender (in)equality.

Women need to be listened to in the first place. That's the way most women just are. They have a stronger desire to talk about the way they feel about things and all a man, sometimes, must do is to listen instead of commenting, judging or telling them to be just happy. If life was so simple ... everyone would be happy just because someone else told them to be happy.

Secondly, if some women feel that there is a need to discuss gender issues in anno 2015, then let it be so. Why would we want to stop people from making use of their freedom of speech or opinion? If they feel that these issues must be tackled, then we ALL should be able to engage in such discussions, just like you and I, without trying to muzzle them. Remember that what we fight is what will become stronger in the end.

Thirdly, if we were getting along just fine, the divorce rates and numbers of unhappy marriages would be lower, women and men on and off NL would be less aggressive when discussing gender issues. No, we are not getting along just fine but we have a chance to if we listen and try to understand.

Fourthly, how do you know that MOST women in Islamic societies or rural areas are comfortable?

Fifthly, in many Western countries (I work for a multinational company so I travel a lot) feminism is not as passionately and actively and frequently discussed as on Nairaland. So no, Western educated women do not necessarily create imaginary problems. Truth is that the discussions here took place in Western countries decades ago. Why is it that we are always the slowest? Can we for once set a new trend and become the leaders instead of followers?
FamilyRe: Being A Strong Woman Isnt Remarkable, It's Normal - Adichie by innervoice(m): 11:24am On May 31, 2015
Chinom:
Women are always quick to play the 'feminist card' when it suits them. When they will be positively favoured. But when the crazy terrorist or kidnapper decides to shoot me first just for being a man, the women will never step in the name of equality to be shot as well.
This is an extreme situation and I don't think anyone will think of gender equality under these circumstances. If a terrorist decides to shoot you because you are the man, then it is not a woman's fault but the terrorist's decision. And under these circumstances the terrorist will probably ra.pe the woman after you have been shot. Bottom line is that both, men and women, have advantages and disadvantages. You lose your life, the woman loses her husband, possibly the father of her kids, and also her physical integrity. Her life will never be the same again hence she has also lost her old life and may never recover again.

Men bear a lot in this world just for being a man. Women should just be happy and grateful for being a woman because the world favours them in a million ways. We, men don't get 10% of the sort of protection women get.
Yes men bear a lot. The sooner women understand it, the better our lives will become. However, men must also understand what women go through.

Now explain please what kind of protection women get in their every day lives that you get only 10% of.
FamilyRe: Pic: Nigerian Proposed After 6 Months, Then Told Wife He Only Wedded Her 4 Visa by innervoice(m): 6:25pm On May 28, 2015
loomer:
She wasn't silly, she just felt loved.

You may not know, but so many fat girls get depressed if no man ask dem out not to talk of marry.
So if even person wey wowo like me ask am out she go gree, because all she's searching for is happiness.
She is desperate for love and he is desperate for papers.
FamilyRe: Pic: Nigerian Proposed After 6 Months, Then Told Wife He Only Wedded Her 4 Visa by innervoice(m): 6:23pm On May 28, 2015
jaybee3:
I guess you see them as demigod and no point telling you how they view me at my office.

Run along!
Just because they see you this way, doesn't mean they see every black person the same way. Just sayin'
FamilyRe: Your Wife Slaps Your Mother In Your Presence, What Would You Do ? by innervoice(m): 9:15pm On May 19, 2015
Slap his mother? Like seriously?! Who would marry such a woman at all?
FamilyRe: Most Men Would Never Get Married If They What They Would Go Through In Marriage by innervoice(m): 9:07pm On May 19, 2015
What do they go through?
FamilyRe: If You Were The Husband, What Will You Do? by innervoice(m): 5:54pm On May 12, 2015
5minsmadness:
Hesitate ko, she didn't hesitate o! You didn't see where op said she immediately took the gun and pulled the trigger grin
grin grin grin
FamilyRe: If You Were The Husband, What Will You Do? by innervoice(m): 5:54pm On May 12, 2015
nelandrewz:
A newly wedded couple were being rubbed, the robber gave the gun to the husband and said he should shoot the wife and be killed, the husband started crying and begged for mercy, the rubbers took the gun and gave it to the wife to shoot the husband or she'll be killed, [size=16pt]immediately[/size] she pointed the gun at the husband and pulled the trigger, unfortunately, the gun wasn't loaded. The rubbers laughed, took the gun and left. QUESTION: if you were the husband, what will you do? Will you still keep her as your wife?
FamilyRe: I Don't Want A Step Mother ! by innervoice(m): 7:19pm On May 10, 2015
EfemenaXY:
Her concerns run deeper than that. Finance is a real issue here, and remember, she did mention that he is retired - so very limited source of funds assuming he's receiving some sort of pension from the state.
Ok. I think your advice will be helpful then. Very kind of you madame.
FamilyRe: I Don't Want A Step Mother ! by innervoice(m): 6:03pm On May 10, 2015
EfemenaXY:
I don't think she's necessarily being selfish, but concerned.

True, her father has the right to live his life and be happy, but he also has an obligation to look after his very dependent children. From what she's posted, he's got 3 of them to look after (financially).

Krisgift: You mention that your dad's retired. So does this new lady (his intended wife) have a supporting means of income? Does she work? If not, how does your dad intend to look after you lot, himself, his wife-to-be, and the kids they might have from the union assuming she's of childbearing age?

You're twenty-one and and adult. So I think you should have a polite (and respectful) heart-to-heart with your dad and table your concerns to him, and hear what he has to say.

I'm suggesting this on the assumption that you've got a good father-daughter relationship between you both?
I thought her issue was with the attention he would give or not give them.
FamilyRe: I Don't Want A Step Mother ! by innervoice(m): 10:17am On May 10, 2015
Stop being selfish. Your father has the right to live his life. Instead of creating problems, support him. You have the choice to create a situation in which everyone is happy or create problems right from the beginning.
FamilyRe: Comparative Analysis Between Wives Of Today And That Of Yesterday by innervoice(m): 1:38pm On May 09, 2015
In short, wives of yesterday were loving angels and wives of today are demolishing devils.
[size=3pt]Complex world view completely reflecting the reality. [/size]
FamilyRe: The Hypocrisy by innervoice(m): 11:50am On May 09, 2015
mulanbaba:
ok , i will start from the beginning Hubby and i met in University.I was a virgin but not because of religion as such, i just chose to wait for the one thats all. We have been married for 12years now and i can safely say it was happily so until three months ago,when i found out that he has been having an affair with my best friend and kicked him out of the house.

now since then all my married friends have been on my case that i am pushing him into the other womans arms etc,and that i shouldnt hev come that close to single woman. No one is recognising that i am deeply hurt, i am depressed, i cant even clean my house or bath my kids and myself. i am in this deep dark hole and i have contemplated suicide

i had to get sick leave from work because i feel incapacitated right now, i can barely leave the house unless i fetch the kids from school. i had to hire a maid cos even cooking wasnt possible.

Now all the advices i am getting is how i must not push him away and still act as a wife and stop being hurt and forgive him as if one can just stop coughing even though they have TB!!,
coming to our marriage we have always had a kinky sex life so there is no position available that we havent tried axcept anal cos he is not interested. i am a very open minded person so he knows no subject is a taboo between us, but he knows that cheating and abuse are a deal breaker for me.

He has shown remorse and hev been apologising but my pain is just so deep right now. i hev asked him why and he doesnt hev any reasons because i had even suggested we explore swinging to spice our sex life which he said a big NO. So i am so confused cos i know i am a good looking woman who doesnt look older than 23 and i work out so am very toned and i do get attention a lot from other men still. so why did he do it? and why are people more concerned about him than my pain? at the moment i really dont care whether other woman take him or not because i feel injured and the wound is very deep.

so ladies please help me understand why should i be the one acting as if its my fault even though my heart is bleeding?
I have stopped reading at the bold. What is this? Do you think you are the only person who has been cheated on? Is it the end of the world?
No matter how painful that is, it is not a reason to give up on your kids or even your life! Toughen up, for God's sake!
Your marriage is in a crisis. It is there for a reason and your job is to find out what the reason is.
FamilyRe: Can One Slap His Wife In This Case? by innervoice(m): 2:36pm On May 08, 2015
Anyone who raises his or her hand against another, should expect to get what was given out.
However, your brother should have better reacted earlier, before he could take it no more and before giving her the beating of her life. I would have made use of other options available to me but I am not judging him since I have a gentle wife by my side.
FamilyRe: Why This Urge by innervoice(m): 2:33pm On May 08, 2015
There is something wrong with your marriage, that's why.
FamilyRe: Married Women Vs Single Ladies Vs Single Men by innervoice(m): 6:35pm On May 07, 2015
They sound very angry.
FamilyRe: Judge This Case by innervoice(m): 12:17pm On May 07, 2015
Timbuktou:
Do the teachers in your own school grade whether an answer is right or wrong based on line of reasoning or fact?
In my school students were taught the difference between fact and opinion.
FamilyRe: Judge This Case by innervoice(m): 8:31am On May 07, 2015
Timbuktou:
How many times have you conscientiously written answers in a test only to find out later that your opinion was wrong. Sweety, it's not really by how innocent or honest you are. It is important to learn tact in managing relationships. Let's not be sentimental about this issue.
Did the teachers in your school grade your opinion or your line of reasoning?
FamilyRe: Judge This Case by innervoice(m): 7:49pm On May 06, 2015
Mothers-in-law ...

Fathers-in-law are just cool cool

Unlike all these trouble makers who seem not to have a life of their own.
FamilyRe: Handling Temper Problem by innervoice(m): 7:41pm On May 06, 2015
raumdeuter:
I have hardly seen someone who claims to have a temper problem beat up a soldier, an Agbero, his boss or a man in power, Its only equals they flex power for
People express themselves differently, a hot temper may manifest itself in different ways, not only in beatings. Some people become verbally abusive or provocative, some others slam doors, yet others raise their voice or talk very quickly.

However, I get your point here, most hot tempered people would think twice before provoking a man with a gun. Hot tempered people are not insane. Fear triggers off self-control here; that is if they are not suicidal.
FamilyRe: Handling Temper Problem by innervoice(m): 7:02pm On May 06, 2015
raumdeuter:
People claim they have temper problems when dealing with their equals,

How come these people with temper problems dont display it when they see someone physically stronger than them, a soldier, their boss at work, Or governor Fashola, Agbero at bus stop etc

But they would see a weak wife, friend or househelp and decide to show that they have temper problems

I would think your problem should not discriminate on the personality

Temper problems is either a display of innate insecurity or just to flex your power
People who have a problem with their temper also often get into trouble with people who are in a stronger position.
FamilyRe: Judge This Case by innervoice(m): 5:48pm On May 06, 2015
adonismuller:
Even though she wasn't hungry she should have taken a bite,s[b]he made the mother in-law feel she is scared of her being poisoned[/b]

Btw,they ate before leaving,how come the husy to be is eating?
If the mother thinks like this, then she has a serious problem. She is either stvpid or insane.
FamilyRe: Judge This Case by innervoice(m): 5:45pm On May 06, 2015
The man's mother is a trouble maker. Far too proud, disrespectful and inconsiderate of her son's needs. He should not listen to this woman but teach her a lesson.
FamilyRe: Why Cant Parent Say Sorry? by innervoice(m): 2:09pm On May 06, 2015
CountDracula:
A dolphin isn't stvpid either bt stil doesn't understand d human language, wats ur point?
My point is that a strong parent leads by example and apologizes when necessary. Simples.
FamilyRe: Why Cant Parent Say Sorry? by innervoice(m): 5:32am On May 06, 2015
CountDracula:
Hw wil u knw ur parents are fake if u can't understand d meanin of fake/real? These ar kids nt adults pls try and understand
Children aren't stu_pid.
FamilyRe: Why Cant Parent Say Sorry? by innervoice(m): 9:59pm On May 05, 2015
CountDracula:
I dnt agree wit dat, if u apologize to a child d child wud feel ur imperfection and knw u can't always b ryt, d child won't see u as a moral compass anymore... Its like havin a computer dt u found out is liable to mistake, wil u stil hav complete trust in it?
A child whose parents are real will develop more trust than a child whose parents are fake.
FamilyRe: My Husband Denied Me Sex For 8 Years, Woman Tells Court by innervoice(m): 9:36pm On May 05, 2015
Eight years can be a loooooooooooong time under such circumstances.
FamilyRe: Ladies, How Do You Cope With Insensitive Husbands? by innervoice(m): 6:06pm On May 04, 2015
5minsmadness:
None of you have asked her what the man means when he says it's her fault

@tearoses
Dontim1
innervoice
Rudebouy
taryour
Why don't you ask her?
FamilyRe: Reasons Why You Should Not Get Married To A Nigerian Man by innervoice(m): 6:59pm On May 03, 2015
fibonacciseries:
I can't really explain. It looks as if he's possesed. I don't think it's ordinary. He masturbates at home when there's no prostitute or any of his strange women available.
In front of you?

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