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Chinom:And who told you that we were biologically equal? Can you see that you are discussing something here that you have no proper comprehension of? If a woman pinches my butt, I laugh it off. If I pinch a woman's butt, I could go to jail for that. Maybe, this answers your question about how women are more protected by the society. I know the laws are there, but try convincing a Judge that a women raped you. You will be considered a clown. People will just laugh at you. Societal perceptions affects the ways laws are implemented. And this favours women big time.Another fallacy. The fact that you laugh it off when a woman pinches your butt does not mean that you cannot sue a woman on grounds of it. How you respond to it is your business, before the law you are equal and you don't have to accept it. |
craziebone:How does nature make men "disposable"? Have boys ever been excluded from (higher) education? The issue of homelessness among men is there. What about crime rate? That is still there. It is ingrained in the psyche of the human being to see men as a threat and that's why most extrajudicial killings are almost 100percent men! The society doesn't seem to take note of male issues very much if anything, it is more interested in what he is not doing right.This is very true. Most societies are blind to the plight of the male gender. However, Western societies are slowly getting there. For example, there have been quite an amount of research done in the last decade on how boys' needs are being neglected and not properly taken care of in nursery schools and how boys are at a disadvantage at schools for being more lively and having a greater desire to move and be adventurous whereas girls are more likely to sit still and take pleasure in writing (beautifully). How did they get there? They have accepted that women's rights and position in society was often unfair. In this way, they have become sensitive to male gender issues. Feminism, and most people in the West will probably agree, has achieved most of what it stands for. However, they will also say that some other countries still have a long way to go. And I say, if we do not empower women, we will also weaken men, and the society as a whole. You are the one who is seeing the advantages and disadvantages. The likes of Chimamanda, who are responsible for shaping policies around the world, do not see this. That's why she talks only of a male privilege.Mrs Adichie is a woman who grew up in Nigeria and was educated in the US. When you compare those two societies you will not be able to deny that the life for an American woman is, in many ways, easier than for a Nigerian woman. Let us not be blind to the plight of any gender. Let us not neglect the fact that many Western women have privileges that the African woman can only dream of. And we are saying no, there are some 'privileges' we cannot do anything about and this also goes for women. The fact that the human being feels a natural sympathy for women, is a privilege.The "natural sympathy" that you speak of is (correct me if I am wrong) the result of natural differences such as physical weakness / strength. Yes, women do need special protection. They are more likely to be ra.ped, they have to carry a pregnancy and deliver, they are more prone to be infected with STDs and they bleed every freaking month, which is a challenge all by itself. Sometimes I wonder how my wife makes it to work during her menses, considering they way she feels and looks. Considering all this, the sympathy is the least we can do. But it does not mean that men should be ignored. This all important privilege is the reason feminism took could achieve things in the first place. If it took feminism 50 years to get its message across, it will take the MRA 200 years to achieve half that feat. Men already understand what women have to go through and that's why there is a ministery of women affairs, there is more research to find cure to cancer that affects women even though those cancers kill fewer women than postrate cancer kills men. I have also mentioned the government girls college. What about the preferential treatment given to women when it comes to boarding the school shuttle? What about parents giving more pocket money to their female children than they do their males? What about the more visiting days parents attend in girls boarding houses than they attend in boys?You are probably one of those of men who understands women (not easy at all ) but please read through the comments some other people publish here and listen to some Nigerian folks off NL. Listening to them makes me understand why feminism is still on the agenda. At the same time, I can also see why some females are unlikely to have a happy relationship. They are not better than the men they fight here. |
iPopAlomo:Woman wrapper is a cheap tactic. Just sayin' How many times in your life have you felt uncomfortable because of s:exist comments? |
Chinom:Nobody disagrees that there are situations in which men "are singled out for BEING A MAN." You don't have to take terrorism as an example to make your point since most terrorists are male, too. Hence, I believe, that this is not a good example. And also because terrorism affects both, men and women, in a very severe way. Who were the people from Chibok who were kidnapped and forced to get pregnant for their kidnappers? Same thing happens in most military and para-military formations. I just think that women should be happy the way things are now. There is absolutely no need for any form of feminist movement anno 2015. We are getting along just fine as it is. Most women in Islamic societies, as well as rural communities are just comfortable with their lives as it is. It's all these Western educated, city women that are trying to create an imaginary problem.Firstly, you or anyone else telling them to be happy with things the way they are now will neither change anything for the better nor will it end the never-ending discussions on gender (in)equality. Women need to be listened to in the first place. That's the way most women just are. They have a stronger desire to talk about the way they feel about things and all a man, sometimes, must do is to listen instead of commenting, judging or telling them to be just happy. If life was so simple ... everyone would be happy just because someone else told them to be happy. Secondly, if some women feel that there is a need to discuss gender issues in anno 2015, then let it be so. Why would we want to stop people from making use of their freedom of speech or opinion? If they feel that these issues must be tackled, then we ALL should be able to engage in such discussions, just like you and I, without trying to muzzle them. Remember that what we fight is what will become stronger in the end. Thirdly, if we were getting along just fine, the divorce rates and numbers of unhappy marriages would be lower, women and men on and off NL would be less aggressive when discussing gender issues. No, we are not getting along just fine but we have a chance to if we listen and try to understand. Fourthly, how do you know that MOST women in Islamic societies or rural areas are comfortable? Fifthly, in many Western countries (I work for a multinational company so I travel a lot) feminism is not as passionately and actively and frequently discussed as on Nairaland. So no, Western educated women do not necessarily create imaginary problems. Truth is that the discussions here took place in Western countries decades ago. Why is it that we are always the slowest? Can we for once set a new trend and become the leaders instead of followers? |
Chinom:This is an extreme situation and I don't think anyone will think of gender equality under these circumstances. If a terrorist decides to shoot you because you are the man, then it is not a woman's fault but the terrorist's decision. And under these circumstances the terrorist will probably ra.pe the woman after you have been shot. Bottom line is that both, men and women, have advantages and disadvantages. You lose your life, the woman loses her husband, possibly the father of her kids, and also her physical integrity. Her life will never be the same again hence she has also lost her old life and may never recover again. Men bear a lot in this world just for being a man. Women should just be happy and grateful for being a woman because the world favours them in a million ways. We, men don't get 10% of the sort of protection women get.Yes men bear a lot. The sooner women understand it, the better our lives will become. However, men must also understand what women go through. Now explain please what kind of protection women get in their every day lives that you get only 10% of. |
loomer:She is desperate for love and he is desperate for papers. |
jaybee3:Just because they see you this way, doesn't mean they see every black person the same way. Just sayin' |
Slap his mother? Like seriously?! Who would marry such a woman at all? |
What do they go through? |
5minsmadness: ![]() |
nelandrewz: |
EfemenaXY:Ok. I think your advice will be helpful then. Very kind of you madame. |
EfemenaXY:I thought her issue was with the attention he would give or not give them. |
Stop being selfish. Your father has the right to live his life. Instead of creating problems, support him. You have the choice to create a situation in which everyone is happy or create problems right from the beginning. |
In short, wives of yesterday were loving angels and wives of today are demolishing devils. [size=3pt]Complex world view completely reflecting the reality. [/size] |
mulanbaba:I have stopped reading at the bold. What is this? Do you think you are the only person who has been cheated on? Is it the end of the world? No matter how painful that is, it is not a reason to give up on your kids or even your life! Toughen up, for God's sake! Your marriage is in a crisis. It is there for a reason and your job is to find out what the reason is. |
Anyone who raises his or her hand against another, should expect to get what was given out. However, your brother should have better reacted earlier, before he could take it no more and before giving her the beating of her life. I would have made use of other options available to me but I am not judging him since I have a gentle wife by my side. |
There is something wrong with your marriage, that's why. |
They sound very angry. |
Timbuktou:In my school students were taught the difference between fact and opinion. |
Timbuktou:Did the teachers in your school grade your opinion or your line of reasoning? |
Mothers-in-law ... Fathers-in-law are just cool Unlike all these trouble makers who seem not to have a life of their own. |
raumdeuter:People express themselves differently, a hot temper may manifest itself in different ways, not only in beatings. Some people become verbally abusive or provocative, some others slam doors, yet others raise their voice or talk very quickly. However, I get your point here, most hot tempered people would think twice before provoking a man with a gun. Hot tempered people are not insane. Fear triggers off self-control here; that is if they are not suicidal. |
raumdeuter:People who have a problem with their temper also often get into trouble with people who are in a stronger position. |
adonismuller:If the mother thinks like this, then she has a serious problem. She is either stvpid or insane. |
The man's mother is a trouble maker. Far too proud, disrespectful and inconsiderate of her son's needs. He should not listen to this woman but teach her a lesson. |
CountDracula:My point is that a strong parent leads by example and apologizes when necessary. Simples. |
CountDracula:Children aren't stu_pid. |
CountDracula:A child whose parents are real will develop more trust than a child whose parents are fake. |
Eight years can be a loooooooooooong time under such circumstances. |
5minsmadness:Why don't you ask her? |
fibonacciseries:In front of you? |
) but please read through the comments some other people publish here and listen to some Nigerian folks off NL. Listening to them makes me understand why feminism is still on the agenda.