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mechanics:
lolz, go to d market and ask 4 d price, d cheap one, u go 4 it.

Bros If you know just help me. thanks.

Hi Guys, Please I need to change the bumper of my car.
It's a 2009 Toyota Corolla Sport.
Is there anybody here that knows how much they sell Tokunbo?
I want to be sure of the price range cos I don't trust this mechanics.

Thanks.

bigtt76:
Sorry been busy at work. Nice projections you got there. Btw you got foreign degree? It pays especially when looking at crossing over. Not easy if trained in Nigeria alone as you would need to equate your degrees with your new host country.

Anyway, I trust it will work out for you.

Errm.. Nope, I obtained my degree here in Nigeria. My selling point (I think) is my experience with an International Consulting firm I worked with for 4 years-KPMG Nigeria and I have a professional certification which is globally accepted. I dunno am just thinking.....

bigtt76:
Nice one! I would just like to quip in that the reason why many Nigerians are not willing to help other Nigerians when in the diaspora is manyly because let me put it this way ....'our eyes too choook'. When you help a fellow Nigerian, the next thing he or she is thinking of is how to 'hammer' or become better than the person helping him or her in the process, causing problems for the good Samaritan.

Just like you rightly mentioned, the Indians, Chinese and other Asians, help one another in the diaspora and go beyond by helping in bringing others on board too. This works for them because they're communal in nature. You will find out that a four bedroom bungalow rented by one Indian or Chinese will end up housing twenty of their compatriots whereas the same house type rented by a Nigerian will gather dust in the remaining rooms ...why because they're scared of bringing on board their compatriots because of reasons aforementioned.

I don't blame them really because we Nigerians are too judgemental without caring to find out why that person being judged is going about his affairs differently. It's either a case of Mr A is shopping at Primark in UK when he has enough money to shutdown Hacketts or Mr A is going on off-peak trains when he could afford to drive the latest benz in town etc. Mr A lives in one UK village when he can afford to live in one of the numerous towers in London. They would go as far as sending this reports back home and the home people will begin to wonder what is wrong with their son or daughter not sending them enough money despite all these austere lifestyle.

Mind you Mr. A is living that way because he's probably paying mortgage to ensure he lives a stress-free life. So my brothers and sisters its not that we don't want to help BUT its your orientation and attitude to life that is making us shy away.

Seriously you have ignored me? ookies, sorry for the disturbance. cheers

bigtt76:
Nice one! I would just like to quip in that the reason why many Nigerians are not willing to help other Nigerians when in the diaspora is manyly because let me put it this way ....'our eyes too choook'. When you help a fellow Nigerian, the next thing he or she is thinking of is how to 'hammer' or become better than the person helping him or her in the process, causing problems for the good Samaritan.

Just like you rightly mentioned, the Indians, Chinese and other Asians, help one another in the diaspora and go beyond by helping in bringing others on board too. This works for them because they're communal in nature. You will find out that a four bedroom bungalow rented by one Indian or Chinese will end up housing twenty of their compatriots whereas the same house type rented by a Nigerian will gather dust in the remaining rooms ...why because they're scared of bringing on board their compatriots because of reasons aforementioned.

I don't blame them really because we Nigerians are too judgemental without caring to find out why that person being judged is going about his affairs differently. It's either a case of Mr A is shopping at Primark in UK when he has enough money to shutdown Hacketts or Mr A is going on off-peak trains when he could afford to drive the latest benz in town etc. Mr A lives in one UK village when he can afford to live in one of the numerous towers in London. They would go as far as sending this reports back home and the home people will begin to wonder what is wrong with their son or daughter not sending them enough money despite all these austere lifestyle.

Mind you Mr. A is living that way because he's probably paying mortgage to ensure he lives a stress-free life. So my brothers and sisters its not that we don't want to help BUT its your orientation and attitude to life that is making us shy away.

Hey Madam, you seem to have ignored our conversation. I am so looking forward to a reply from you, But then...

bigtt76:
I hear you not generalizing it though. Some put in their best of the best behavior and end up being adopted by the diaspora but that's like one in a thousand or more but they're rare to find.

So what are you into? What's your career projections like in the next 5 years?

Ooh rily, she replied. thanks

I have worked in an International consulting firm here in Nigeria (One of the big 4, if you know what that means). presently working with an investment company here in lagos.

Career projections? To have become a seasoned professional with INTERNATIONAL experience, offering top-class advise to clients around the world.

bigtt76:
Nice one! I would just like to quip in that the reason why many Nigerians are not willing to help other Nigerians when in the diaspora is manyly because let me put it this way ....'our eyes too choook'. When you help a fellow Nigerian, the next thing he or she is thinking of is how to 'hammer' or become better than the person helping him or her in the process, causing problems for the good Samaritan.

Just like you rightly mentioned, the Indians, Chinese and other Asians, help one another in the diaspora and go beyond by helping in bringing others on board too. This works for them because they're communal in nature. You will find out that a four bedroom bungalow rented by one Indian or Chinese will end up housing twenty of their compatriots whereas the same house type rented by a Nigerian will gather dust in the remaining rooms ...why because they're scared of bringing on board their compatriots because of reasons aforementioned.

I don't blame them really because we Nigerians are too judgemental without caring to find out why that person being judged is going about his affairs differently. It's either a case of Mr A is shopping at Primark in UK when he has enough money to shutdown Hacketts or Mr A is going on off-peak trains when he could afford to drive the latest benz in town etc. Mr A lives in one UK village when he can afford to live in one of the numerous towers in London. They would go as far as sending this reports back home and the home people will begin to wonder what is wrong with their son or daughter not sending them enough money despite all these austere lifestyle.

Mind you Mr. A is living that way because he's probably paying mortgage to ensure he lives a stress-free life. So my brothers and sisters its not that we don't want to help BUT its your orientation and attitude to life that is making us shy away.

Eerrm... lets start this way. Convince us by deciding to help a brother like me...

Now that I HAVE ASKED FOR HELP. I am waiting o.

Please note the reason to want to travel for some of us is not because we are jobless or dependent. There is nothing compared to International exposure. Here at my workplace I have seen the gap between the take home of a foreign trained and a Nigerian trained just because the dude has got foreign experience. It is actually a priority for me, maybe a help from a sister could actualize it you know.

Why is Buhari so mad with Saraki about his anti-party coup but not angry with Dogara?

Is it because Saraki's coup affected the North while Dogara's coup favoured the north?

I am just thinking in the line of the allegation of a Northern agenda Buhari has always been accused of.

Please note I am an ardent critique of the old administration and specially disliked GEJ as Prexy due to his cluelessness.

kemlily:
Rip to the dead.....

Hmmm, I am July 25.

Where is missB beryl, pls?

To add to what the op said about Barrister Adebayo Shittu:

He is one of the most senior politician amongst all of them. He was a member of Oyo state house of Assembly in 1978 at a young age. He was a commissioner in 1983. He has been in Politics ever since then, shuttling between law practice, writing (Islamic texts) and public service.

Lol

Intrepid01:
Let's go see a movie and have a drink. then we discuss that

Who is asking you to like the post, say yes and provide details.

shokky24:
And what av we achieved so far

Let's go see a movie and have a drink. then we discuss that

7lives:
This makes two of us, most people did not even know the origin of the crisis in the middle east but they just open their mouth and vomit all sort of rubbish.
You will hear trash like " i am a Christian that is why i support Israel, oh i am a Muslim i support the Palestines " one such people went on a pilgrimage to Israel and came back disappointed because he discovered that Jews are not even Christians.
The blood letting going on in that axis is horrible, Jesus gave us only one law, i hope those who are calling themselves Christians are aware of this law.

You just spoke the mind of many. My conclusion is many of us are just illiterate when it comes history and happenings around the world. I laugh at people when they associate with the present day Israel, some dull people even think the present day Israel is the same as the biblical Israel. they are FAST to say 'NO COUNTRY CAN EVER DEFEAT ISRAEL' yes the bibles said that. Our level of gullibility is begging for help.

I am a Christian and I know Christians are more guilty of this than muslims. Many people don't know that over 97pct of Israelis are jews, less than 2pct are muslims and an insignificant numbers are Christians.

Dhugal:
WTH!
Who do you think you're dealing with here,kids like yourself?.
After the fall of the Ottoman empire at the end of WW1,the main middleast territories were split in two by the League of Nations n the British and French mandated to administer them.The French mandate covered present day Syria n Lebanon,while the Brit's covered today's Israel,Jordan n the Palestinian territories.In fact,the kingdom of Jordan was created by the British for the former rulers of Hejaz who had been displaced by the newly ascendant House of Saud in the Arabian peninsula.Present day Palestine was never sovereign nor independent at any point.Go pick up a book and read.
Also,Ethiopia never at any time was a part of the ottoman empire.It was an empire on its own.
Go get back your tuition fees from whatever institutions you'd passed thru,they all failed you.

Ooh I can see you have taken this as a contest. But sorry to disappoint you old man I am not in for it.

For you not to have known that Ethiopia formerly known as Abyssinia was part of the ottoman empire says it all. Bye

20pounds:
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance. It is the illusion of knowledge" - Stephen Hawkings.

With due respect sir, I shall advise you to study about Palestine before talking about it next time.

I am done here.

thank you sir, I''ll do that. But please take that advise too, cos it is evident you need it desperately.

themaskedman:
You seem to be so sure of what you are saying but permit me to ask just few questions.
1. Was Palestine always a sovereign nation?
2. If it's a sovereign nation as you claim, how did it manage to be?
3. If we believe that the universe has a beginning in time, what nation has always existed as sovereign?
4. Have the people who call themselves Biafrans the right to determine whether to continue to be part of Nigeria or not?

We seem to forget that Nigeria isn't a product of mutual consent and agreement. The different people who make up Nigeria today were just yoked together by a man who knows nothing about the peculiarities, differences and culture of each people. Never were the people asked if they wanted to live as one, never were they asked what name they wanted for themselves, thus if as it is the people weren't part of the plan of amalgamation ab initio, they have the right to decide not to belong any longer.


I support your view however, that a national conference needs to be convened to sort out these issues but what happens when the authorities aren't willing?
This issue isn't just about Biafra, it's about Nigeria, it's about her people, the Igbo, Yoruba, Hausa, Fulani, Igala, Efik etc. The different nations should be given the opportunity just like the Scots last year to make a choice.

ANSWER:
1. and 2. After the fall of the OTTOMAN EMPIRE in the early 18th century, all colonies within the empire existed as an independent state. Yes Palestine existed as an independent state.
3. A nation has always existed as sovereign nation if it was never at any time colonized and it is recognized by the United Nations. Example here in Africa is Ethiopia, the only African country that was not colonized because it was part of the former islamic OTTOMAN EMPIRE.
4. To assert that the people who call theirselves BIAFRA do not have the right to self determination will be hypocritic. However,we all need to understand the objective of the minority few that called for the secession in 1967. Listen, I have read quite a number of books on pre, during and post BIAFRA, engaged in discussions on BIAFRA. Igbos need to sit down and answer some serious questions before calling for the head of Nigeria. You can not always fight and run away. Attempt to always run away whenever there is an issue in Nigeria is a bad reason to leave. You people will need to convince the world that you have good reasons to leave , unfortunately.

After the fall of USSR in the early 90s, some regions were happy and rushed to form a deceptive Country called Yugoslavia, by 1996 they all realized that their problem still persisted after leaving USSR and that led to further dissolution of that Country in to several others, those other entities have further divided and are still dividing. The perceived problem of Biafra will persist even after secession and we may later have Anambra going its way, Anioma and some other parts asking for self determination. I know this is not my business but the point is Nigeria belongs to all of us, anything that will lead to the end of its existence will be a collective decision.

20pounds:
Ok sir.

'Educate' me on the following;

How did Palestine become a sovereign nation in your view? If so why is 'your' President calling for their sovereignity as a country?
Are you aware of the efforts America(Bill Clinton) made to broker peace which was rebuffed by Palestine(Yasser Arafat) and cost Yitzak Rabin his life?


In a few words sir...

Sir, please lets get our facts right and rely on good sources of information before forming an opinion.

I referred to Palestine as a sovereign nation in the sense that they have always existed as an independent state from time immemorial. Palestine was never part of any amalgamation. You should also know that issue of Palestine's territory became an issue after the fall of OTTOMAN EMPIRE. The Islamic empire that reigned between 16th century to the early 18th century (not certain about this pls). It fell at the beginning of the 18th century.

It is a big distortion of history for you ta have opined that Bill Clinton's effort to settle the issue of Palestine/Israeli was scuttled by Yasser Arafat. Sometime I wonder where some Christians get this their false information from. The fact that we are Christians doesn't make Palestine our enemy or Israelis our friend. As Christianswe should stand on the side of truth always. Infact it is has been rumored that and investigations are still on-going to substantiate the fact thatYasser Arafat was killed by the Israeli government because he almost got Palestine what they wanted, which Israeli was not happy about.
Do you even know that Yasser Arafat and Yitzak were both awarded the nobel peace price in 1994 because of their commitment to the resolution of the conflict?

Please lets check our facts

Dhugal:
What the hell have you been smoking,guy?.I've read you from first page make a fool of yourself thinking you'll change course at some point.
Palestine is NOT and HAD NEVER existed as a sovereign nation in history,unless you want to refer to the biblical Philistines.The current West bank territory was snatched from the Kingdom of Transjordan,now known as Jordan,by the Israelis,while Gaza strip was taken from the Egyptians.
Israel gave them up cos they were territories marked for Arab inhabitants of the British mandated territory known generally as Palestine,comprising present day Israel,Palestinian territories,during the partition.

You really should get more informed on issues before making contributions.
Btw,Biafra existed as a sovereign nation,with established govt structures,for well nigh on three years.

No matter what I should say Good Morning to you before responding to your lies. I'll address them point by point.

1. Palestine has always existed has an independent state from time immemorial. You can ask and read more to confirm this.

2. Your assertion that Israel gave up a particular territory to Palestine is not only wrong but deceptive. Obviously you have little knowledge about what you are saying. Listen, I am not one of those that argue to win, I engage in discussions when I see there is a kind of distortion in an individual's point of view. You really need to go and read about the post 2nd world war, when Britain was looking for a place to settle the remaining Israelis around the world and Israelis insisted they'll only stay in their biblical place. It is so callous of you, infact I wish I could insult you, to say Israeli that ACTUALLY met Palestine in the territory that occupied by Palestine and Israel today. Find out about the major issue in resolving Palestine/ Israeli conflict, you will realize it is because Palestine is insisting that negotiation will include returning Israel and Palestine back to the territories they both occupied as at 1968. Of which Israel that has forcefully hijacked many territories ever since is not willing to go back.

Please be careful when you insult people, it doesn't increase your bank balance.

Yea it is true that every tribe that was amalgamated as Nigeria has always existed as an independent settlement, growing at it's pace and time. But I repeat and please stop being deceptive there was never any particular tribe or set of clans that were described as BIAFRA. None I insist. Biafra mantra came after the pogrom of 1966. There was no form of government referred to as BIAFRA with any established structure. You adding lies to buttress the Biafran course doesn't make any sense at all.

SupremeXYZ:
[s][/s]Are the duo of palestine and Biafra looking for Independence/Freedom/Autonomy/Sovereignty or not?
That one has gotten OBSERVER STATUE in UN security council,and one hasn't yet,does it make little,nullify,invalidate or disenfranchise the quest of the other?.Why is the idiot from Daura supporting one due to religious affiliation,and striving to stifle the other,because of hate and parasitism?.

You are a joker.Loool. when you wake up from your dream lets discuss.

SupremeXYZ:
[s][/s]I av' watched you argue like an typical Nigerian and backward blackman you are.
In your opinion,the Palestinians deserves Buhari's support,because they did exist before as a Nation.Has such useless assertion been the criterion for the independence/freedom of the indigenous ethnic group,anywhere in the world,especially,in respect of the UN charter on the inalienable right of indigenous people to self determination?.

Lets compare Palestine and Biafra.
1.Palestine are made up of human beings,same with Biafra.i.e,what is good for the geese,is also good for the gander.
2.Palestine(according to YOU),has existed before.Biafra as a name,had existed even before flora shaw and the idiot Lugard dream of the name Nigga-zoo-area!.Then,the people that comprises of Biafra,prior to 1905,1914 and 1960,had existed as a people,with their unique life style(whatever name and arrangement they had then,is non of your business),before they were hounded and forced into what we know today as Nigeria,at gun point.
3.It's the right of Palestinian to be free from Israeli occupation,same as Biafra.Why then is Buhari ordering the Nigerian forces to hunt pro Biafra groups and Biafrans,while supporting Palestine?.

NDPVF is here.

Wow, what a comment.

Please kindly note that there was never a country or an agitation of any region amalgamated as Nigeria until 1967. What existed was a coastline place somewhere in Akwa Ibom called Biafra.

Palestine was not in existence as just a name, it was a sovereign region that has been in existence long before now. They were never a region under another country. Infact they were the first settlers in that region before Britain persuaded them to allow Israelis after the end of 2nd world war to settle there with them.

Like I have said before, Biafra was never a sovereign region in Nigeria and there was no agitation for self-recognition until 1967.

For Biafra to be actualized, one thing must happen just like it happened in Sudan in 2010. All parties involved in this unholy marriage would have to come together and ask each other if they want the marriage to continue or a re-alignment of vision and identity.

To expect the President of Nigeria that swore to defend the sovereignty of Nigeria to discuss the exit of a particular region in the country is a tall dream.

This is the major reason why it would be difficult for other parties in the Nigerian project to trust anybody from the tribe that want to secede as President because of what could happen.

Trust me, Biafra can never be achieved singularly, it will be a collective thing by all participants. Please don't tell me by force it is possible, at least if we were not alive back then, we read about the last time Biafra tried using force.

ooohh lastly, as for your first sentence that appeared insulting, I'll let it pass.

FreeGlobe:
why are they not the same? aren't they seeking the same thing. why do you support one and not the other? Simple question

Chaii, I tot this babe will let me rest after my last post.

Okay If you desire a response you will get it.

Palestine is presently a sovereign state and referred to as an observer in the list of countries at the UN. It is not under any other Country, the only issue with recognizing Palestine is the emergence of the militant group controlling GAZA and PALESTINE is a world issue. while Biafra is a region in Nigeria, it was never a country of its own. It is an internal agitation and there is no case of oppression or suppression or any case of infringement on anybody. Biafra will be achieved when all the parties involved in the marriage (Nigeria) decides to convene a SNC where everybody will be allowed to decide its future.

FreeGlobe:
you need to take your google seriously.. your following world politics is not enough. Buhari goofed.. period

OKAY, PEACE

Hmmmm....see religious bigots everywhere.

They fight about Biafra and Yoruba. But when it comes to religion, they quickly re-align in order to rubbish the other man's religion. Their unity is not for progress, soon they 'll still resume to their ethnic bigotry. Its in their blood...I wish I could write a book, the title will be "HUMANITY,SUPERIORITY COMPLEX AND I AM RIGHT SYNDROME"

FreeGlobe:
you are just trying hard to explain the difference between 12 and half a dozen. Go and read the statement on this issue by buhari and tell me why it does not apply to biafra

Hmm. I can understand you''ll never see reasons. Calling Palestine and Biafra issue the same is just funny. End of Discussion.

Peace

20pounds:
I am sure you know nothing about what you just posted. Go to Google and type in the word 'Palestine', then come back here and correct yourself.

I am waiting...

Guy, I wish you knew how wrong you are on what you just wrote. I cant stop laughing at I don't know what am saying about Palestine. I am not one of those people that runs to google for information on certain things. I have been following world politics since September 11, 2001 and I have read many books to show for it. I watch not just CNN unlike many of you, I also watch AJE and PRESSTV. when it comes to middle - east issh, trust me I am familiar with the politics and happenings. okay

FreeGlobe:
so what about biafra?

with due respect, there was never a country called Biafra. The South-Eastern part of Nigeria wants to secede, Yes, that's true. But to compare a sovereign state, Palestine with a region under a Country is quite a mis-match. When we talk about Biafra, we talk about Catalonia in Spain.

fav444:
if u ever lived in d core north u will understand d op better.

Madam I served in the north back in 2009. I saw Yoruba muslims lead northerners in prayers several times.

Please you all should know that the Op has ulterior motives.

FreeGlobe:
Buhari allowed his religious affiliation to becloud his sense of reasoning.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Palestine

Madam, forget about religious inclination or not. I am a Christian but any follower of world politics will know that what Israel with the support of the Western countries are doing to Palestine is totally unjust. Palestine deserves its full autonomy and should be supported the same way Israel was supported in 1948 when they became recognized as a country. As human beings our concern should be about humanity and our views should be determined by morality not on religious line.

FreeGlobe:
As culled from his speech at UNGA



Is it not hypocritical for Buhari to openly declare support for the self-determination of Palestine "without any further delay" and reject to do same for Biafra.. Is this not confusion, hypocrisy or both?

Na wa for you ooo. So Palestine was a region in a Country before shey?

Why are you not being sincere or you don't have adequate knowledge about Palestine?