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iamrealdeji:
The problem I have with you is that you seem to paint Buhari black and make Obama seem like a saint,and in my own opinion,Buhari is a better leader than Obama,if Obama was in his shoes at the moment,he wouldn't have sacrificed everything Buhari has sacrificed so far.
My question to you is that can you know about Obama's motives,the objectives of his trips than his people? You can't know more than them,you just keep guessing and guessing. See what his people have to say

Guy obviously you have no clue about the subject you jumped in to. For crying out loud, all I said was that Buhari should not exclude business men on his official trip. It was a clear suggestion with Obama as an example. How does that look like painting to you? Let me tell you, I vehemently opposed GEJ's presidency and clamored for the offered change. But I am not of those who just start to attack people that see anybody mention Buhari's name. Obviously your adrenaline increased cos I mentioned Buhari. Check back and see if it was a matter of painting. The fact that you and I voted for Buhari and that there are some people here who are hell bent on criticizing everything he does, does not mean you should be blind to reality or just attack people for no reason.

Please gimme a break.

icekream:
Its actually the truth. Take a random survey of the couples you know

With due respect....but this mindset is the reason why Africa is backward. Assuming that money will come after marriage. Assuming that God will provide for the child's needs when he arrives. Westerners are better off because they plan . Please lets make decisions with our heads not our hearts.

iamrealdeji:
If you don't know about something,you keep your mouth shut pig,here is Obama spending his country's money on holidays,estimate that in naira,and your ignorant ass is sitting behind there blaming your president for going out to the US for trying to bail out your stupid ass. Do you think Obama's leadership is the best in the world because it's America? You can't know the value of what you have till its gone,but that applies to people with low IQ like you,we appreciate what Buhari is doing right now and he's getting it right
Ask about what you don't know next time bushman. Everything Americans do is right to them because it's America, aja local (local dog),you're a modern day slave if you don't know

You got it all wrong guy, the subject of discussion was leaving out business men on Presidential tours. You went ahead to copy a vacation tour made by President Obama.... the simple reason people fail exams. Obviously you didn't check the subject I responded to, you just jumped to attack my comments. Listen, there is a difference btw vacation tours and official tours. official tours are made strictly for official reasons. It is an opportunity to take advantage of identified opportunities in the other country. Heads of Government travel with individuals that can assist in grabbing the opportunities. One major reason for African Leaders is convincing foreign multinationals to have a presence in your country through establishment of companies; which will translate to job creation, empowerment and SKILLS & TECHNOLOGICAL TRANSFER. I can go on and on to enumerate reasons for official tours and roles of business men. The first trip President Obama made in 2008 was to India, not to mesmerize but expand their business interest which was necessary to further cushion the effect 2008 economic crisis.

ooh I didn't forget, I saw your insults.......I'll let it pass

Look at it again, if this news is anything to go by political planning, strategy and consolidation has started again. From where? The SW.

When you feel aggrieved of a status quo, act like a man that you are, consolidate and show that you have the prowess.

You don't have to start crying around. Tinubu wasn't a factor on the national scene some years back but he sat and planned for his relevance today.

What is wrong in a politician from SE spear-heading the repair of PDP in preparation for 2019? They wont do that, it is after others have finished the brain work that you'll see them. According to a Yoruba adage, "You are not around, you are asking how did they share it, where were you?

DaisyII:
'Tell me' in not more 250words why you think if we secede there won't be internal strife(you knw Anambras rising against imolites,Enugu n Abakiliki wars)

Tell me how you are going to start life afresh.How do you intent to circumvent Economic/financial constraints which will be imminent at that time.

If you can convince me that derrix enough reserve(i.e Mo-ney)to take us through the tough years of our secession.I'll join to fight the war but if not,pls rest your hackles.

Our fathers laid a bad foundation.So wat nw?


I can't die for this cause pls.

CHAI CHAI CHAI, see people exhibiting intelligence today. God go give you good husband for this. I mean someone like me....nne Bia

podosci:
First and for most if Nigeria is to divide, how many entities are we gonna divide into? We have 256 ethnic groups, what stops us from dividing into 256 different countries, what's the assurance we would divide into just 3?
Lets take Biafra first, why should the 5 eastern states agree to divide together to form one Baifra, why not do divide into 5 different countries
Arewa republic is not achievable, there are over 150 ethnic groups in the north, for one, the huasas and fulanjs would never form a country together if giving a choice, we still have the Nupe, Gwari, Gwagi and other ethnic groups....
Oduduwa repulblic is already having issues where the Ijebus are fighting for their states, the Offas want out of Kwar...
Secondly Division is not as simple has it sounds especially in less developed regions like Africa, we would fight for many unending years with a death toll rising in millions and that might not even ensure that the divisions would be achieved. Look at sudan, they fought for years, even after the south successfully gained independence they turned the guns on each other and started fighting themselves in the south.
Economics...If Nigeria is to Divide into N, SW, SS, SE, ...The only region to benefit would be the SW and the Se due to the availability of a readily extractable mineral resources in the SS and sea ports, The SW would enjoy with it's population and seaports....The N and SE would be totally landlocked surrounded by other countries and this is not a good recipie for economic development.

Nigeria is better has one , which ever faction feels marginalize should table it's grieviences to it's senators, Hor and GOVS....Each state in the republic receives it's monthly allocation, Because of Federal system, your state Govement is in charge of your development..Its time we start singing the right song of holding our leaders accountable and stop the song of separation.
Thank You

CHAI CHAI CHAI!!!! O God I for ask say make you give this guy brain but from this write up he has enuf alredi. But pls help me dash am his heart desires. Thumbs up man. nice piece

WhiteTechnology:
The reason below is why God allowed Kumuyi to fail in his crusade




I believe God is forcing Nigeria to answer these questions below


1) Will you treat Igbos as fellow countrymen

or

2) Should I allow them to secede since you greatly despise them




For Kanu to frustrate Pastor Kumuyi's crusade, it shows that Nigeria has not kept her agreement of No Victor No Vanquish



I have prayed and I am convinced that guy is succeeding because Nigeria has not being true to the Igbos



Let's keep praying for God's will to be done




A NATION BUILT ON OPPRESSION NEVER LASTS ONCE THE OPPRESSED STARTS FIGHTING FOR FREEDOM



WHERE IS MBAKA

Ok.. continue to cry and play victim

iamrealdeji:
pls name,a diplomatic meeting Obama went to with business men and name the business men that went there with him,I can't imagine Donald Trump or the likes of Warren Buffet following Obama overseas when they're not invited,next time,think before you talk because your comment makes no single sense

Your stupidity is begging for mercy. If you lack the information and education to know that diplomatic tours are made for business deals and expansion of stakes in other countries. You think western leaders spend billions of dollars travelling to anoda country for merry making? When you don't know, you ask questions and humble yourself to learn. Omo ale jatijati

ArodewilliamsT:
Kai, yoruba and dishonesty. why are yorubas like this? when google is spammed with "yorubas are impersonators and trolls", they will come here and cry that the Igbos caused it. just look his ugly ngb..ati face. He looks like intrepid01. Laugh wan make me slap tinunbu!

Your stupidity is innate and hereditary. Omo ale jatijati

ArodewilliamsT:
are you no longer from the SS? anytime i see your username i be like lwkmdgmvjkbfdkuglvlkrhguhk!

Locate the nearest xformer in your area and hug it. Ode!!!

@dolphinheart: May God bless your deep analytical sense.
@OLAADEGBU: May God grant you understanding and wisdom.
@myself: God pls grant me wisdom, understanding and knowledge to comprehend both physical and spiritual things and the realistic sense to accept them.

Referendum ko Referendum ni!!!
Nobody is going anywhere, we are all sticking together by fire by force.
This is a marriage of no option, it must to work or we all stay and suffer the consequence. As for those imposters saying Yorubas want to secede too, NA LIE. Its a camouflage, YORUBAS believe more in Nigeria than any other tribe. THEY ARE BUILDERS, THEY DONT DESTROY. Let those who feel they are slaves keep enduring or fight for change in Nigeria or else....

Are you sure the guy dint do copy and paste on the document but forgot to edit properly?

tonychristopher:
your wrong
if we can exchange notes . tell me your tribe let's compare

Igbo are the most successful ethnic group economically educationally and technologically even after the war if you doubt it

tell me your tribe let's compare pls

Igbo have never been associate d failure

Please provide empirical facts, I deal with facts not mouth.

Listem, let me educate you.

Igbos are labourers while Yorubas are administrators.

Cut across SW, we provide enabling environment for labourers to trade. Determine the extent and modalities of the labourers trade. that is called WISDOM. My Guy mouth no do am, na BRAIN dey do am. If you so much believe Igbos are the best economically, why is SE no the most developed in Nigeria? Because it is filled with labourers no administrators....looooooool

If this is true, then I must say our "dear president" got it all wrong. In the first place, aw would you go for a diplomatic meeting without business gurus from your country?". It is a common practice around the world. President Obama is in Kenya with league of American business men, just to ensure that they seal high business deals and repatriate the returns to America. That is how countries are built.

ezeagu:
I have a better question for you, do you think a call for second Niger bridge, or multiple Niger bridges, Onitsha port, Tinapa and other free trade zones, Ibaka deap sea port, and Niger delta sea walls would be ignored in a Biafra?

I use this as a case study: https://www.nairaland.com/979128/enugu-pride-east/405#36076936

Something as sweeping as a Biafra revolution would get rid of the crab in a barrel mentality and get rid of 'Nigerian' leaders. There's nothing to prove, the world saw what happened the last time Biafra existed and was ganged up on by the whole world. The fact that resources aren't being sent to Jigawa and we don't have governors answering to Boko Haram sponsors helps.

The cry for Biafra has more to do with the gang up against GEJ, something that is rooted in Nigeria's long history of prejudice against the east, more than the fact GEJ lost. GEJ was not perfect, but there was definitely a conspiracy against him just because he is eastern. If Buhari had won, just like Obasanjo, just like Yar'Adua, in a different circumstance, as in, not consistently threatening Nigeria's peace if he didn't win, then there wouldn't be such a 'cry'.

Greece got into their problems because of over doing and their people didn't respond with tax. A Biafra has enough human and natural resources to buy Greece, in fact with all the proposed states as it is the GDP is already a third of Greece and that's in this terrible climate. Greece can be used as a great case study though.

First of all I appreciate your issue based response. Obviously you are one of the few cerebral "Biafrans" up here.

Everything that happened to GEJ was totally his fault. In 2011 he was overwhelmingly voted for by Nigerians. The SW supported him, the only state he lost in SW was Osun with an insignificant margin. Immediately he got in to power due to his cluelessness xter (no insult) and ineffective leadership style started creating enemies for himself.
Let us look at the real issue, GEJ's era was one of the worst we have had, if not the worst. The simple prayer I made for Okupe on twitter when he defended GEJ is " God will run your life the way GEJ is running Nigeria". If you will have a second thought to say amen to that prayer then it shows something is wrong.

On a serious note, Politicians are the same; North, West, East and South. They are our enemies, exploiting our common opportunities to their selfish advantage. Biafra cannot be achieved without the input of Politicians from the east who are presently part of the cabal. If you don't agree to that, check out South Sudan and Montenegro; the two most recent countries to achieved sovereignty. If this Politicians will still be at the helms of affairs there will be no difference. We all need to accept the reality of the day and think of a way out. I never supported BUhari but I was vehemently against GEJ re-election due to the obvious failure and lack of content.

Speaking with respect to the Ibos, you guys need to stop playing the victim game. stop using GEJ's loss as an excuse. The SS where GEJ belong to are not even crying as you Ibos are. It is so evident that the cry is because of your obvious failure in the last election. It is obvious the Ibos lost out in the last election which to me was the most intellectual game of politics ever played in this country; second only to 1979.
When the Yorubas felt cheated in 1993 and even during GEJ's administration, they didn't cry for seccession, rather they went back to the drawing board on how best to get what they felt they deserve. Ibos too should take a cue from this, via political re-alignment and pull a political stunt. hausas may be the strongest due to the population power but they have always been given a run for their life by the Yorubas via unparalleled political strategy and style. because of this hausas know that they cant take Yorubas for granted and are always put in to consideration in their political strategy. Cos they know that if not, the Yorubas will always have a superior formula and strategy. Look at the facts in what I have stated, forget about the Yoruba, hausas that I have used and ask yourself if its true.

ArodewilliamsT:
Shattap!yorubaman claiming SS. Fake aszs monkey.

Lool...see anoda akpu-filled headed slowpoke

dearpreye:
Why should the arabic inscription be there in the first place? This is one of the myriads of problems we're facing.

Ok...you win. Isnt that what you want?

dearpreye:
Why are you scared of the truth? We are talking about some useless and nonsense arabic writings on the official logo of the Nigerian Army, and you're taking what I don't seem to get. This isn't bigotry; it's challenging what's obviously senseless.

Yea you are right...but aw does that solve the myriads of problems we have? or are you saying that is the most pressing problem we have at hand? Don't you think the security situation of this country begs for everybody's attention?

My point is this: We should stop putting our number 85th problem as number 1. Let us deal with other pressing problems before the writing on the flag.

The confederate flag in America has been part of their symbol for centuries =, it just became a subject of discussion last month. After they have solved so many important problems. My brother that is my point.

I strongly opposed the re-election of GEJ during the last election and indirectly supported Buhari. But that does not mean that we should be unnecessarily supportive of Buhari. He is not expected to make useless mistakes. that is why the law allows him to have PERSONAL ASSISTANTS. He is expected to have been prepped adequately for public statements and comments. He cant continue to disgrace us like this.

Nigerians and their misplaced priorities. We are talking about a Nigeria with stable light, job opportunities, adequate security, clothing & shelter for all someone is talking about mere inscription on the flag. Will that feed anyone? Chaii I pity your destiny. Religious bigots everywhere

Paid Biafran..he is only speaking from his pocket not from his brain...

carnegiefan:
No, you still don't get it.
Let me give you an example:

Nigeria spends MILLIONS of dollars to bring electronic communication (eg radio and TV) to local Nigerian audience.
The IPOB spends about 1% of that to bring Biafra information to WORLDWIDE audience.

Nigeria uses imported technology to try to jam radio Biafra, but FAILED.
IPOB uses LOCAL BIAFRAN technology to hop frequencies and piggy-back between frequencies to defeat wasted millions of dollars spend to buy those jammers.

In total truth, the difference between Biafra and Nigeria is literally like that between light and darkness.

To even compare both is to be disingenuous.

A fully emerged Biafran can only be compared to Israel in the middle east among those clueless Arab states.

Chaii, sometimes I wish to discuss with people who can be factual for once rather than wishful.

You said nothing about the looters I mentioned and their similarities with the present day Nigeria. Yet you delved in to another fantacy. I love and respect the Ibos for their innate commercial prowess. But the only problem is you hate and don't tell yourself the truth. When the truth appears, you quickly rush to play the victim.

ezeagu:
Somebody was talking about lending problems, which is strange because the east is crammed with economic centers, including Onitsha, Aba, Port Harcourt (or Ugwu Ocha), Nnewi and some other lesser economic centers like Enugu, Uyo, Calabar, Owere. The problem with Greece was people not paying tax, and they hardly have any natural resources. The east has oil, gas, coal, bauxite, and there's potential to expand agriculture including palm oil (used in everything now) and other agricultural products the east is not lacking. People on the coasts and delta areas have hardly been given a chance to create proper fishing industries which is why foreigners from Europe, Japan and other regions come and steal fish of West African shores.

Many of the natural resources have scarcely been touched and there are even other places that haven't been officially noted. Other countries that have failed to stand on their did not have this potential. The human potential I haven't even touched on, with the most densely populated area in Africa after Egypt and a young population, giving proper policing and incentive to get into 'nation building', the area could be a haven for telecommunication company's and call centers, especially with English being a widely used language, and there's other potential for different manufacturing industries, some that are just budding in the area, like car assembly/manufacturing, computer manufacturing, textiles and co.

Talking about manufacturing industries, just stabilising electricity alone, properly dredging the Niger and adding a proper port to Onitsha (and Asaba) would boost the already great manufacturing industries in Nnewi and the general area. Aba would improve with a proper link to Opobo and the Ibaka port. But just thinking about this, I can't really see how any of these places can be separated, it's my view that they need to be in the same country. I recently posted an article about Tinapa, and even the local Cross River people were enthusiastic about Igbo businessmen patronising the place.

Anyway. There's massive tourism potential in places like Bonny and Calabar and the whole Bight of Biafra coast in general because of it's clear sandy beaches and its history/culture/welcoming people.

Lastly, the people themselves are not lacking in innovation, these were the guys who sustained a country under fire from all sides for three years while creating their own armoured cars, arms, assembling tanks, building shelter, refining crude oil and so on. I don't think there's trouble on that side. What I think may be tricky would be to tax them and to create a climate that becomes stable so that borrowing would be reduced (because, yes a lot of borrowing may be needed) and investment, including the billions in the diaspora, can feel confident.

My Brother your analysis so on point shey? loool, I laff in Ibo.

Listen, your analysis is so Nigerian, talking about what you would like it to be but not what it will. If you are so sure of all that you have highlighted and if its that easy has you have enumerated. Please why are these things not working now. Since 1999 at least Eastern states have been having Governors but yet nothing has happened. Or are the Governors not Biafrans like you?

I have said it before, Igbos should man up and stop looking for excuses for failure. Throughout GEJ's tenure there was no cry for Biafra, but after he lost we started hearing Biafra Biafra Biafra.

And lastly on ur statement on Greece, pls you aint right. Greece's failure wasn't due to non-payment of tax. you can read more on these sites...marketwatch.com and mfs.com to know more.
How do I know, maybe cos I follow the happenings going on there minute by minute cos it affects the stock market directly; my primary baby at work

Hehehehe wonders shall never end. My people perish because they lack knowledge, wisdom and understanding.

I have read responses from the first page to the last page and I cant stop laughing about peoples responses.

Both the Biafrans and the non-biafrans have appeared funny in their responses.

None of the people passing comments here on Nairaland about the policies of the Government of Biafra will even be part of the decision making process.

The present day politicians cum looters e.g Orji Uzo Kalu, Nnamani etc will still be in charge of Biafra. My point is If you are not getting it right now in Nigeria, I bet you wont get it right anywhere. Stop looking for excuses, challenge your leaders to get it right here in Nigeria as an experiment first before dreaming of Biafra.

crixtex:
I believe d igbos would not allow Islam too..

So u mean Igbos will not be tolerant in the Biafra republic. U see, its still the same old wine in a new bottle...........rotfl

MosakuAW:
Congrats.

He looks calm from his pix.

We are still awaiting appointments from the east, all we have been seeing is North and West or there is no credible person in the East!

Truth be told....It was the North and the West that worked for the Govt of the day. South East worked for GEJ, they should ask him for appointment.

See you!!!!
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