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There is also a saying that home is where the heart is.  Some people find their place in this world, it may be where they grew up, it may be somewhere they visited, or the place they settled.  

A place you visited = you are just a visitor.
A place you settled = you are a but a settler.
A place you grew up = you are a temporal resident.
Place of your ancestors = your home.

debosky:

See me thinking I had committed all the crimes in the book. I see there are still many more for me to commit.

I shall not rest till I have done ALL those things listed up there so I can proudly boast of my exploits as a Naija man.

una strong pass me, more vaseline to your elbows!

Just went to have a decent haircut this morning and they told me my best beutician called to announce he safely landed in Greece yesterday. Huge guy, 7 foot gentle giant who plays soccer. Early twenties and very kind. I wish him well sha.

Siena:

Invisible, chill out, and wind your neck in.

One thing remains - home's where the heart is. Some Nigerians also happen to have been born in the United Kingdom, United States or elsewhere. You seem to be making a blanket assumption, that even Nigerians that travelled out of Nigeria, have abandoned their families. You've also assumed their families are not in their countries of residence.

As for Nigerians abroad not sending "goodies" back to their relatives in Nigeria - how do you know they don't? Or do you expect them to send you an email, informing you of each time they've made remittances to any of their relatives in Nigeria? Threads like this one are a dime a dozen - there have been over 30 of them on Nairaland, since this forum sprung up, and there will continue to be. The views shared will remain the same, dependent on where you regard as home.

I was reacting to the fact he called his uncle greedy.

orgasm:

whats happening to my posts?

We wont tell you until you finish having your orgasmic convulations. Are your legs spread out and pointing at the ceiling?

justwise:

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Yea send some goodis to some grumpy uncles who never saw anything good in u but the moment u left Nigeria he start checking exchange rate for u, telling u stories about how he bought u rainbow pant when u were 1yr old.

Not only goodis, u will get microwave from abroad, greedy things

Na stinginess dey worry you so, the uncle even had the humility to buy nwafor seven colour pant for you even as you dey steal his sweets from his small shop. (thats why he saw nothing good in you) maybe you were harvesting and eating his seed yams before due date?

Bros, buy a good car for your uncle o!

fstranger:

Where is this coming from? I am not sure if this is done out of jealousy or the OP just have a lot of time on her hands. Either way, I think it is an affront on the entire diaspora Nigerians that some sex starved chic thinks that  some hardworking folks in foreign countries have the time to think about how they are being missed , or not, in Nigeria. This is what you should do: Try carrying out a research on the living standard of Nigerians with families abroad Vs. those who do not have families. abraod.

On the research part, you will be shocked! Those families with diasporeans are poorer by far. Always waiting for feeding money, school fees and house rent money which may never come. One abroad 'big boy' even had the audacity to send 200 dollars through me to his wife and four kids! I had to supplement the money from my pocket to pay their landlord before he throws them out.

WAVixen:

its silly and irritating when grown adult fools make comments like this, must you be seen to contribute to a thread?? if you have nothing constructive to say shut your hole.    if you didnt think of leaving your beloved homeland why did you wait for your uncle to weep before you stayed back? rubbish.!!!!

Hehehehehe! That was funny, did I hit a raw nerve? Sorry babe, I know how to get out the best- and- worst reactions from people. Guess I succeeded here. Lemme have a lemonade, will be back.

justwise:

There is no doubt that there are many Nigerians who travelled out and things turned out badly , but there are those who made it as well.
There are many Nigerians in Nigeria who left their villages to lagos or Abuja and things never turn out the way they planned and going back to the village becomes a nightmare, they spend yrs on and never visit. There is no smooth ride anywhere in life.

Wht i don't understand about some of you moaning about Nigerians abroad not sending gold and silver home everyday is by whos standard are you judging them? Yours or God?

Anybody in Nigeria not visiting his village will have visits from his relatives regularly. We can easily send garri, yam and native fowls for them. Tell me if it will be easy to pay DHL for same package to the US.
If you cannot send goodies from abroad, we have to judge you harshly because you are not perfoming your own share of family work. Its better you return and be weeding your mumsie's cassava farm or replacing your dad in his suya hawking business under the flyover!

justwise:

People like you are stiring up this hatred between Nigerians outside Nigeria and those at home, many Nigerians abroad have great relationships with their families and friends back home but sometimes we read from grumpy old uncles like you moaning about your achievements and your dozen kids, i don't just get it.

There you o again with your 'many Nigerians abroad' quotes. I ask again, what of those we have not heard from in 15 years since they travelled? Some have even changed their names and are peeping from far away lands and waiting for their dads to die so they can come home to divide his properties.
If that is your idea of a great relationship then rant on.

justwise:

Some of your comments sound very silly, so those outdie Nigeria can't have kids where they are? Living well? Do they need to come back to Nigeria to achieve all that?

Daily, they come back to marry, and get her pregnant, anandon her to her fate and be promising to come and pick her up later when his papers are complete.
The worst are those young girls 'tied' up in marriages to those that run away again, leaving her confused and lonely, while the guy is married to his older white lady.

The easiest way is to walk, walk through the desert from Kano to Turkey and you will be in Europe. Simples.

ishit4body:

Why will you regret moving abroad when you havent come back to see what you left behind, who you let behind, so, what are you making the judgement against? Against what you hear or what?

who even cares if you regret it or not? The question is, who cares?

Dont mind them, their mates in naija have five kids each and living well. They wont regret now, give them more years.

Chai! Una own don finish patapata, Nigerians now sneaking into Kenya in order to sneak out from there. Thats how our people got stranded in Lybia, Morrocco and Senegal. Very soon, Nigerians will be locked in their thousands in Kenyan prisons. I pity una.

Simple, breeze into Wallmart, buy original African hoe, cutlass and rake, hop into the next flight to Lasgidi, find yourself in your village in hours and kindly proceed to your father's abandoned land. Farm till you have enough to spare.
Thats the best way to beat recession.

eghost247:

People who have never been out of naija
would just sit at home and be talking bullshit

And those that have left naija dont talk bullcrap? They are even the major distractions. Someone manages to save 20 thousand dollars abroad and now thinks he can lord it over those naija based ones. You will be surprised when you return.

oyinda.:

I don't understand the point of this topic. Most people have the freedom to return to naija if they want. Or to return to the US if they are visiting naija.Regret applies more to permanent change. something you cannot change. Most people responding to this topic are still young and dynamic. They still have lots of choices and options. No permanent change has occured yet and still have the idea of the "american dream" etc

It is best to pose this question to elderly nigerians who have lived decades abroad and are about to retire home etc. They are the ones who can explain better if their extended time abroad has been well worth it.
because if you are still living abroad and have no plans of coming home to settle anytime soon, obviously you don't have regrets!! how can you regret something you are still doing!!?
so the question should be posed to people who are coming back home. Or people who "life abroad" is a past experience for them. They are the ones, in my opinion, who have more authority in this subject matter.

I know two elderly people like that. Five years ago when I wanted to move abroad, one had to travel back just to advice me, (an uncle) there were tears in his eyes when he told me that the worst thing that will happen to his life is to allow me go out there and repeat his mistakes he made when he was my age. The tears of that old man was part of the things that made me stay back here. Now when he calls, he says "you see, I think I told you to stay back"

Blue Magic:

If most of you that condemn & beef those that live abroad had an open opportunity 2 leave Nigeria, i believe you wont think twice about packin your bags & baggages & headin to the airport. If e.g America were to make it visa free 4 Nigeria, believe me 90% of Nigerians will be out of there b4 night falls. Where would you rather have a quality education? Nigeria or abroad? Where would you rather have a house of your own where u got security, electricity, rule of law, quality health care etc Nigeria or abroad. Even your so called leaders know this, why do u think they rather send their kids abroad to school, own houses abroad etc. And 4 you Nigerians living a rich life abroad & expect the people to kiss your A@# becos u are rich like they do in Nigeria, well bleep y'all!!!! Thats why u are livin in a civilised society where nobody gives a damn how much u got or u make, cos here every1 has the same equal rights & nobody is above the law, Rich or Poor. so if u want some1 to kiss your A@# cos u are rich well go back to Nigeria where u can have u A$% kissed all day & do wateva & oppress the poor. Once again i say bleep y'all!!!!!!!! So instead of being myopic try & better urself, improve urself rather than being ignorant. There's a sayin "I thot my father's farm was the biggest in the world until, Agreed there's no place like home but wherever u lay your head becomes your home.

Good points, that 90% that will readily leave Nigeria are the lazy, never do wells that dont belive in working hard and looking inwards to solve their problems. They are the chronically dis-satisfied brothers and sisters who want something for nothing, who think by just landing in US, their problems are over.

Alas, the truth hits them BAM! In the face when they get off the plane and see fellow Nigerians waiting at the airports begging for connection and business form you that just came in!

I am happy for you all who say they dont regret it, but I still feel bad when I remember those Nigerians languishing at the backyard of civilization, I mean those people that will never come here to say something, because they cannot afford internet connection.

darkman200:

Most of the posts here are ridiculous, why won't people just mind their own business, live and let others live- i guess that's not in Naija nature huh? If i decide to live outside Nigeria, whose business is it? Most Nigerian based contributors on here are just envious of people living outside Nigeria. There are Nigerians in U.S that are struggling and there are some that are doing great just as it is in the home land, but i’d rather struggle in the U.S than struggle in Nigeria. And Mind you, there are actually some of us that are doing great whether we live in Nigeria or abroad, i live in the U.S and currently working for the same multinational company i worked for in Nigeria, i can do the same stuff i was able to do in Naija except that i live in a much more sane society, most of the friends i have are in similar situation as mine and many are doing way better, they are all well educated and have professional jobs, they are competitive and have the kind of intellectual and technological exposures that average Nigerian worker is not used to, so the folks i know have the competitive edge any day and anywhere over their Nigerian counterparts. If y'all so much hate abroad, why do you keep coming here to have your babies? why not stay back and spend your vacations in Nigeria, they have basically turned my house into something else, it's either they are coming to have babies or coming for vacation, if you are so comfortable with where you are, why not stay back and do all your stuff in Nigeria then i will agree that you guys are really as patriotic as you claim. Bunch of hypocrites!

Your problem seems to be you are not making enough money and still think anyone will be envious of your broke azz. If you are comfortable you wouldnt be complaining about the few visitors you have over there. Where have brotherly love gone to? What of we in naija that have relatives living in our houses all year round?

dayokanu:

Where are the likes of Kase lawal and Emeagwali fulfilling their destinies?

Abroad, and in the case of Emeagwali, he still has not passed his PHD there and is being accused of a multitude of sins like lying about his work in the invention of the internet. I think his destiny is still not fulfilled.

ROSSIKE:

justwise said:


Have you actually ever requested a ''crime record'' from the police department?

(I know the answer to that - NO)

You just may be surprised that they actually DO keep records of crimes reported in their region/area.

A lot of people here just come in and type rubbish off the top of their heads.

Dont mind them, what will they not do to justify bashing Nigeria, even for those who dont know where Nigeria is. Its very cheap to be a critic, e-warriors.
Many of them failed miserably here and are afraid to come and face facts here.

justwise:

Oh please stop talking garbage, have they finish collecting bribe let alone writing down number of innocent pple killed by armed robbers and police themselves. You will only liar to non-Nigerians about zero-crime figure in Nigeria, not me

Continue to decieve yourself. You are not better than any of those policeman, is he worse than you who would lie, cheat, steal, do yahoozie and marry an old woman jsut to get papers? His own is lighter.

justwise:

How can you compare when nobody keeps crime record in Nigeria? Which govt depart keeps accurate crime record in Nigeria?

Its very silly of you to call killing a petty crime, tell that to the victim relatives.

No accurate records, and thats why you should shut up. It may even be only two persons who died in the whole saga and yet the media decided to elevate the bad news because they were financed.

dayokanu:

^^ When a whole city of Aba was closed down by criminals less than 2 months ago yet he has never heard it before.

The way we lie through out teeth sha

Cordinated mayhem, create a serious situation of instability, sensetionalize the news and flush Theodore Orji out.
Politics is the name of the game pally!

justwise:

Don't mind him, kidnapping is petty crime, killing by armed robbers is petty crime. Rubbish.

Very petty, especially when you place them side by side with the horror flicks we watch every night on Crime and investigation channel. How do you compare kidnapping in naija with that of Mexico, Colombia? Yet you will give an arm to be smuggled into that country in a barrel! Hypocrisy!

justwise:

Here we go again, i thought u said u don't know of any armed robbery? Now u remembered that some were staged by bank managers.

Do you need to witness one b4 you call it crime? If you don't witness or have personal experience then its called 'petty crime? You are such a big joke

Just overblown cases by people like you looking for excuses to hide you poor azz in one obscure country where the crime rate is much higher. I still maintain that I have not been robbed neither anyone I know.

justwise:

You are a bloody liar, and u just made a fool of urself here. How many banks were robbed by armed robbers this year in Nigeria?

Pretending that all is well with Nigeria will not change the reality.

How many banks were robbed? How many were staged by bank managers themselves, my point was that I never saw any robberies and maybe you witnessed any?
Go and sit dow joo.
Pretending that all is well abroad will only keep you in blind delusion.

GL:

since we're advocating for everyone to return 'home', how about nigerians living in other parts of the countries returning to their villages? afterall the non-yorubas living in lagos are working for the yorubas, just like nigerians abroad are working for whites. people have the right to decide where they want to live. i grew up in lagos and though i'm not yoruba it's home to me. i can't imagine living anywhere else in nigeria. home is where you feel at home. i'm from the niger delta region and have only been there a few times. i love my tribe and feel bad about the crisis even though i've never experienced what the residents experience. staying in lagos or elsewhere doesn't mean i'm denying my roots or i'm not patriotic. if home had to be your village, many NLers would be stuck in slums and would have limited opportunities. people migrate within and outside the country for basically the same reasons.

Sorry but non Yorubas living in Lagos dont work for yorubas, dont know where you got your info from but most are ibo and constitute more than 60% of the population, so they have the numeric advantage and language control. Many also own houses there.

But go and ask them how they flee from Lagos riots or how much they have lost in properties when trouble erupts. To call a foreign country home is the height of deceit.

dayokanu:

You must be a retard to believe people would come here to lie about such incidents. Your type are those who would go to any lenght to lie about issues just to prove a point. I bet you would say you have never seen a bad road in Lagos self if given the opportunity

A Link to the story about the Bus driver was posted on this same Nairaland

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-549292.192.html#msg7133246

The UNILAG student ask around The guy was a chemical Engineering student, He lives in FESTAC his name is Morakinyo

Sometimes while watching foreign news about crime, I realize we dont even have crime here. What we have are overblown isolated cases of petty crime. Watch reality TV about serial rap.ists and other violent crime and you will see who the real criminals are.
I dont know anybody who has been robbed in broad dayight here, I dont know anyone police have shot, I only hear about Nigerians killed in London schools, teenagers that died because of racism.
Our police are even timid and afraid of us. I shouted on one last week and see as he was begging me, thinking am a law officer.

REAL TRUTH:

 Everybody can't stay or live in Nigeria,,,,It would be very silly,wicked and heartless of me to assume that because Nigeria is Ok for me,,,therefore, it should be oaky for everyone else. Its also silly and an act of foolish and blind patriotism for me to assume that Nigeria is the best place for all Nigerians to be in order for them to achieve their life dreams.
Its good enough to say the country has the potential to be better than what it is or has been all along,,,,but untapped potentials are just not sufficient enough. The truth is ,,,if Nigeria is not working for you,,and you have the means as long as its a legitimate one get out of the country. But if you think the country is treating you fine,,,,then good luck and stay back.
Too many avoidable things are wrong with Nigeria,,so mere patriotic statement can not fix it,,,even our political leaders know this. If things were very okay in Nigeria,,,there would not be groups like Save Nigeria Group. However, anybody wants to talk down on Nigerians abroad,,,for a group of people sending down atleast $10Billion to an economy yearly,,,,that is quite substantial and commendable.
As far as I know presently,, most people re suffering in Nigeria,,,it takes pretence not to admit this fact.Even our political leaders children do not even resides in the country,,,many wealthy Nigerians(criminals or not) have their funds outside the country because they themselves re not commited to the country.
Why do we have the Akunyili's daughters getting married to white Americans? Why MKO ABIOLA DAUGHTER(An Havard graduate getting married to a white?? Why is OBJ son(Muyiwa married to Bahamians and living his life in the US?? Even Adenuga's first son too refused to resides in Nigeria.
I read an interview by Dayo Adeneye last year,,,he said all his siblings ,,,except himself don't live in Nigeria.The truth is that there lots of Nigerians doing pretty well abroad(Particularly in the US),,,don't know else where though,,,  

For those who moved legally, have good jobs and are caring for their families who cared for him during his younger years, there will be no problem. The problem is the negative picture we paint of ourselves in our greed to look for the easy way out. I wonder how many Americans who will run from their countries to stay here all because he wants to find a 'home' in Lagos.

The bottom line is money, our attempts to seek out easy wealth which most times lead to crime when we cannot legitimately acquire enough to satisfy our need.

If most Nigerians are suffering, it is as a direct result of their understanding about life, have it ever occured to you that staying in naija is also a choice, or that some people cannot take some dehumanizing treatments meted out to Nigerians abroad despite the money involved. Stripping women for toto, sorry total search is one of such.

As to why Nigerians marry whites, clearly for economic reasons. Those you mentioned may be affluent but the vast majority do so for social security. The white man will never trust, like you and for you to love the whites to the extent of marrying them is regrettable. For those of them that marry our girls, check surname of the girl and you will understand.

The save Nigeria group may have its own agendas so is no reason to conclude we are suffering. Its not the 10 billion dollars remitted that worries me, its the trillions lost to foreign govts as taxes and rates. Its the lost opportunites and brain drain tht should frighten us more.

greateros:

Most of you are talkn all sorts of rub-bish abt beloved naija!

We in naija knows you cant come home cause after spending so many years abroad, you have not yet remitted back the money borrowed by your parents to send you abroad!

You may not knw it, many of us will not leave naija for any reason. Niaja rocks all the time!

http://www.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&rlz=1C1SKPC_enUS333US333&biw=1024&bih=578&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=abuja&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

Very true, I am supposed to inspect another land today, the woman wants to sell because her son is on her neck, he wants to run away and the woman must fund the misadventure. The land is worth at least a million naira but I will pay only six hundred k. Pity.
Anyway, Mgbada dara ibi bu uru dinta. (another mans misfortune is anothers gain.

yaya:9ja:

i cant say i regret leaving nigeria because i had lots of freedom and fun like for example, in Nigeria i can easily go to the mallam  beside my house 2 shop but in America here i am always scared 2 step outside of the house because of some akata boys smoking rite infront of the aptment(my brothers car was recently stolen by one of those idiots). well i like America bcuse they ave got good education, security,your salary get payed and food is cheap but i dislike d fact dat they like 2 poke nose in other countries business( amebors), and i also dislike it wen rich person 4rom nigeria come visit u in America, they will come 2 your house and not care dat u even have a job 2 go 2, they chop all the african food u have at home, make u take them shopping around America not even caring 2 buy gas, they will even shop for expensive stuff dat even u cant afford in front of u, and wen their visit is over dey will just drop $20 for everythin thinkin dat things r easy over here  , back 2 the topic. well things were easy for me in Nigeria bcuse my parentz had good jobs and connection. i cant  regret leaving nigeria and i cant regret moving 2 America because this 2 countries have good sides and bad sides that i will always have 2 face  . (America has many opportunities,and food. Nigeria has the enjoyment, and culture)

Same things happen when you guys come visiting, drive my car around for days and expect me to fuel the ride, live in my apartment like its a hotel and even make eyes at my babes! At the end of their stay, they thank you and tell you how lucky you are to be in naija, yet they hop on the next flight and leave. I wonder if they forgot their dollars abroad, lol.