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vickyO: When he said His mother, brother and sisters are those who obey the will of his father.
And he never called her his mum in the Bible. or can you quote any scripture?

So that makes VickyO Jesus' mother (since you obey his Father's will)

While Mary is not Jesus mother. (Since you said Jesus said otherwise)

Abi?!

vickyO: he will see the post.
address my question.

The Bible allows intercession.

The Bible doesnt exclude Mary from interceding.

Now you give me the verse where the Bible says "dont pray to Mary."

Acidosis: Pls stick with the truth in the first post.
Thank you

What truth?

HumbledbYGrace: is Enigma female That's deformation of character.

The issue remains on ground.

Are you sending a signal that it is okay for that anti-Catholic living thing to go to the thread for Catholics and continue to post negative content about the Catholic Church?

Would it be okay for pagans, atheists, satanists etc to invade the Christian thread and post similar stuff there?

Or is it only that living thing that you have granted such privilege?

vickyO: David was a Prophet. Acts 2:25-30
"For David speaketh concerning him.........Therefore being a Prophet...."
Happy
now address my question..

Address it to your blind fellow Protestant.

Dont you want to save his confused soul?

Acidosis: Jesus is divine.

This 'divine Jesus' mothered by Mary is God. No?

Acidosis: Someone mentioned the words - "queen stands" and then you people placed Mary in that position..


Oga Sir, Pls show me the verse saying, MARY Mother of Jesus is the Queen of Heaven (or wife of God), sitting next to the Most High God

Until you're able to give me this, please desist from spreading falsehood, deceits, abominable ulterances that can invite the wrath of God upon you and your Mary apologists.

"But he being full of the Holy Ghost looked up steadfastly into heaven, and saw the [b]glory of God and Jesus standing on the right hand of God
And said, behold I see the heavens open and the Son of man standing on the right hand 1 of God" (Acts
7:55-56) [/b]

After Jesus ascended into Heaven, he authomatically became the SON of MAN (not pet of Mary)..

The Pet you carry about in the arms of your Mother goddess is not my own GOD..

God's judgment is coming soon.. do not invite his wrath upon yourself.

You said "Queen of heaven" is an abominable title. I said God himself said The Queen is at the right hand of God in heaven.

Who is that Queen?

Acidosis: The picture of my mother carrying me as a baby is not to be worshipped..

Besides, I am no longer in the arms of my Mother..

How do we know you dont worship the picture?

vickyO: She is literally, but Jesus, the one we look up to said otherwise. He had his reasons and I'm sticking to his view why? cause I am his follower.

Jesus said Mary wasn't his mother?

Where? When?

HumbledbYGrace: New developments

^^^

The bored old lady is still posting anti-Catholic content even though no one mentioned her name since the initial time.

https://www.nairaland.com/1464338/thread-catholics/26#19709698

What could be our offence this time?

Ajibam: @enigma and other anti - Catholics,
any negative word address to the Catholics in their thread wil not be taken lightly.. you can argue or question their belief, but don't use any provoking or negative statement against them..
especially enigma..

Check to see if these and her other posts there are the kind of negative words you mean...
https://www.nairaland.com/1464338/thread-catholics/25#19686714 https://www.nairaland.com/1464338/thread-catholics/26#19709698

idnoble135: You side there were no scriptures, here is an extra verse. And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he explained to them what was said in all the
Scriptures concerning himself. Luke 24:27
Could you care to explain?

He explained all the scriptures.

Yet, he explained no New Testament book to them.

That means the NT was not scripture, right? It didnt even exist when Jesus explained.

Yet, the NT is in the Bible.

Scripture was in existence then but Bible or NT never existed.

Scripture is not the same as Bible, bro. Give up. It's glaring.

vickyO: noun
1. biblical writings: the sacred writings of the Bible
2. biblical text: a passage from the Bible

Microsoft® Encarta® 2009. © 1993-2008 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
Yes it is.

Then check "scripture" lets see if its the same.

^^^

Running from pillar to post with some untruths and half-truths.

striktlymi: Tough!

I thought all was well again....I guess I was wrong. I see from the thread that you guys have ignored the last comment Enigma made. I guess ignoring his comment would be appropriate at this time while you guys may report him via the report to moderator button.

I am a bit busy now with work.

Okay bro...enjoy your day.

Acidosis: Yes, she was chosen.

But the same Mary was pregnant by the Holy spirit..

So why don't we call Holy spirit the FATHER of God?

You tell my why.

Acidosis: Calling an earthly mother Mary the Mother of a divine God is insultive..

So Jesus is not divine?

Acidosis: 'Mother' is not a title, 'Mother of God' & 'The Queen of Heaven' are forbiden and abominable titles..

Says you, not God. God said in Psalm 45:9 that the Queen stands at the right hand of God in heaven. Queen of where if not heaven?

Acidosis: The symbolic Mary (holding a baby) you carry about today was formerly an idol, a mother goddess of the sun carved for & by the early pagans..
I talked about that on previous threads

What about you picture of your mother carrying you as a baby...is it the goddess of the Sun too.

^^^

The issue has not been sorted out.

The bored old lady is still posting anti-Catholic content even though no one mentioned his name since the initial time.

https://www.nairaland.com/1464338/thread-catholics/26#19709698

What could be our offence this time?

Acidosis: and the same God created Mary..

How can I create you and yet, you say you're my Mother? lolz


Its funny to see how you want to force titles on an innocent woman..
I pray God open our eyes so we can see what it means to rip God off his glory..

But it was God the Holy Spirit that called Mary the Mother of Jesus - God the Son.

It wasn't Catholics that invented it.

Syncan: @Italo, weldone bro. @ Adsonstone,bro I must confess that your manner of discuss in this thread has been impressive. One may not agree with another's belief, but asking for explanation without ridicule, making your own submission with less ambiguity is just the way to acquire knowledge. No knowledge is a waste after all. You did not open the thread, but you've been more honest to the seeming aim of the thread.

Still following.

Thanks. I must confess, I'm pleasantly surprised by the spirit of our conversation so far.

Though I can't help but wonder why it is the same question of mine that has not been answered by both Adsonstone and JMAN05.

Alfa Seltzer: Send pm to mukina.

You will most likely be ignored anyway.

And we say Nigeria will be better?

Make them moderators and they're this unfair. What happens if they're in Govt?

POPE II: Italo and Sal C good morning , hope you guys had a wonderful night.
@,Sal C did your babies bother you in the night?

Thank God your are among us .

Yea...thanx. Good morning.

idnoble135: Did they have the scriptures or not?

engrtee: Is scriptures same as bible?

NO!

Mintayo: As in seriously?@the bolded? The Bible is not the only Word of God?
May God have mercy...

You might want to show us where the Bible says it alone is the word of God.

Syncan: Who is God to you? Slave of heaven or King of heaven? You complain of "twisting" scripture, who is "twisting" meanings now?

"Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre...upon thy right hand did stand the queen in gold of Ophir". Psalm 45:6-9.

How is this queen, exulted above this king?

Jesus at the right hand of God.

The Queen at the right hand of Jesus.

^^^ I dont see anything wrong.

idnoble135: One can not remain a christian without one.
And it appears you are not even addressing the major issue on ground. Guess you wanted a minor victory after all.

Sorry, I decide to correct what I feel needs correction.

One can remain a Christian without the Bible. All the apostles and their companions never saw a Bible...and they remained Christians.

Syncan: hahahahaha, They want to save catholics?


David wrote:
"...they pierced my hands and my feet. I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture". Psalm 22:16-18

Centuries later...:

"Then the soldiers, when they had crucified Jesus, took his garments, and made four parts, to every soldier a part; and also his coat: now the coat was without seam, woven from the top throughout.
They said therefore among themselves, Let us not rend it, but cast lots for it, whose it shall be: that the scripture might be fulfilled, which saith, They parted my raiment among them, and for my vesture they did cast lots. These things therefore the soldiers did...But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water" John19:23-34.

You said it yourself, "we do not serve the same God"

LMAO!

Joshthefirst: you could create a thread on the general section.

Ah! Is that how to reach the admins?

Thanks.

chidima: Am here oh. Having issues with my phone. I see the devil tried to sow his seed here. its good we ignored. May God strengthen us today and may we never stop flying to the patronage of so loving a Mother Mary.

God bless us all.

The Holy Spirit is always a Spirit of oneness and unity.

Any thing that tries to disrupt unity and/or cause division in family, Church, among friends etc can only be from the devil.

And the devil never sleeps. He can come through other people...but he can also try to sneak into our own very hearts.

May the seed of the devil not take root here and elsewhere in our lives. Amen.

rationalmind: How does one report to an admin?

Yes, I think I'd like to know that too.

I having a feeling it will come in handy soon.

Joshthefirst: ^^^

Sir, please report to the admin and stop trying to cause more division.

Oh! I am the one trying to cause division? How?

striktlymi: You made some very valid points but um...I don't think the comparison you drew fits in perfectly into the situation at hand. A private property is quite different from what we have here on nairaland. There is really no rule that says folks can't post in any thread they want to. The only rule is that they post on topic always.

If we make the topic of our discourse about any individual and the individual makes a response, then I really do not think the individual is posting off topic. Like I mentioned before, the law that applies to property ownership in the real world does not really apply here on nairaland and as such Enigma wasn't exactly wrong to comment in that thread.

If on the other hand, he made his comment when no one mentioned his 'name' then I believe you would have been in a better position to argue your case out because I believe there is this 'unwritten rule' that we are expected to respect the 'spirit' in which threads are created. This rule guides all existing chat threads. So if Catholics want privacy, we should have it, if and only if we make comments that do not aggravate others.




I agree with you here but there is a way we can go about that discourse without necessarily inviting 'outsiders' into that thread. There was a time, Muslims in the Islam for Muslim section had a discussion on how best to keep 'trouble makers' out and the discourse went on without aggravating anyone or mentioning any 'names'. I think we should learn from that.

Yes, we can learn a lot going forward. However, I need to be cleared on something.

By "post on topic always," do they mean post according to what is being discussed at the moment you posted? (Which is what that lonely old lady was definitely doing)

I dont think so. That would mean that if a thread has been derailed by the last post, the next poster must continue the derailing by continuing on the derailer's topic. It would also mean that if the last post on "A Thread For Catholics" is about Mary, I cannot post about mass or purgatory. That would be unthinkable.

By "topic," I believe what is meant is the title of the thread and the OP.

That would make more sense to me. And the bored old lady clearly contravened that.

Also, if we cannot respect that unwritten rule and post according to the spirit in which a thread was opened, then there would be many ways for bored organisms to circumvent it.

E.g would it be okay for me to derail the non-christian thread if I go there and find any uncharitable thing about Christians? Or is it only the mention of one's name that should permit a derailment? If so why?

The best way to answer those questions is for each person to respect that unwritten rule regardless, I think.

Logicboy03: I blame the mods...it is one thing to insult people but doing so constantly is another



Enigma has been doing so for a long time and so he now hjas the illusion that he has the right to say falsehoods about the catholic church.


Sha like you said, he is a sad case. It is a sad rhing Enigma when a catholic would prefer to talk about christianity with an atheist than u.

Of course the mods are to blame. The rules of nairaland mean little to them and they apply them differently to different people.

I'd be ashamed if it were 3 Catholic mods here seeing the level of injustice here.

Alas! We have 3 Protestant "born again" mods.

Though I must say that 'some' are trying more than 'others.'