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vooks:
Mary may have been all that but......
Luke 11:28 (KJV)
And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked. 28 But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.

Mary heard the Word of God and kept it...with distinction.

But Mary-haters don't like that.

vooks:
Catholicism is certified paganism

It is easy for any iddiot to say "catholicism is certified paganism" or "Protestantism/pentecostal is certified paganism" without a logical explanation.

But what thinking humans do is explain their claims.

adsonstone:
Show me where the guy said 'Jesus did not approve the
rosary!'

Simple!

Show me where he said the bold!
Did he ever say it or not?

I posted where he said it in the picture containing the outstanding question which you claimed never existed...yet responded to it.

It's not my fault that you reply a question...then deny it's existence.

brocab:
Theirs nothing I can say will change your mind, but we either listen to the word of God, all we don't, its your choice.

The word of God says "Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with you, blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb."

I will listen to it.

preetyb:
My dear worship what ever u want to worship, if u like mount a wood somewhere,pour holy water on it every day and pray to it, according to u there is nothing wrong in it. But remember that the bible says “there is a way that seems right unto a man but the end thereof is distruction.

I gave you biblical example to show that God is not against images...

What exactly is your problem?

Angelou:
no jew ever prayed to the ark of convenant, but catholics are fond of praying and making reverence to statues of mary and other so-called "saints" like confucius

Ah! So you have agreed that statues are not bad. Good start.

I'm a Catholic. We don't pray to statues. Though we may pray before statues like all the Israelites did in Joshua 7. And they also revered their statues.

So do you still have issues with it?

preetyb:
Ok fyn go and bring the Ark of covenant and start worshiping it so we would know u are still living in the era before christ.
The difference between then and now is christ, he is for now and forever will be the only mediator accepted to God.

Don't you read ur bible? No other name was mention in the bible to reconcile us back to God except the name of Jesus. The bible says in john 14 vs 6 “He is the way, the truth and the life and that no one comes to the father except through him”. Are u still arguing with dat?.

Have you seen that God is not against the use of images...or are you still fighting to prove that he was not against it before Jesus but turned against it after Jesus.

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adsonstone:
Another false allegation!

Show me where the guy said 'Jesus did not approve the rosary!'

Simple!
Why are you forcing what did not happen to have happened?

Are you ashamed to accept that he never said so?
That's the dubious you I'm talking about!

I posted where he said it in the picture containing the outstanding question which you claimed never existed...yet responded to it.

It's not my fault that you reply a question...then deny it's existence.

emrain:
rochas toying with the feeble minded igbos.... Catholics currently angry with him will immediately forgive him.... scammers everywhere.

According to the story, Rochas has nothing to do with it.

obinnashady:
I wonder who is ignorant between the both of us.why did God punish the isrealites when moses went up mount sinai to bring the 10 commandments,when Aaron made them graven image.u are a catholic,I can't argue with u. 4 u know not the Bible.

The ignorant one is you.

Ex32:1 - And the people seeing that Moses delayed to come down from the mount, gathering together against Aaron, said: Arise, make us gods, that may go before us: for as to this Moses, the man that brought us out of the land of Egypt, we know not what has befallen him.

God punished them because they wanted other gods, but the Almighty. They had Aaron make a god for them to worship.

Images are not idols until humans take them as gods, in place of the Almighty God, and worship them as God.

So the Ark, the Brazen Serpent, Statues/Pictures of Jesus/Mary, Pictures on our homes/phones etc...are all images, but not idols.

See how you're making me teach you what a child should know.

preetyb:
You always site examples of things that won't help you in any way why?

The Ark of the Covenant helps me to understand that God is not against images. Infact, he permits using them in worship. E.g in Joshua7:6.

Now can you explain how the Ark of the Covenant won't help me?

Millerz:
you should do well to stop quoting me...

I'll quote you if I like.

If you want to choose who can quote you, get off nairaland.

obinnashady:
this one is not just an idol,its a f*cking idol

You're saying The Ark of the Covenant is "a fucking idol."

You see why you should keep quiet and learn when you're ignorant of something?

Millerz:
My lovely Jesus , but then...... its just an idol

analice107:
Catholic Religion with their images.

obinnashady:
That's not christ,that's an idol.

What about this one?

Is it an idol too?

analice107:
And maybe you shd know that Gambling is a sin, and Jesus will be working against Himself to get involved in that.

okay, let's presuppose that his prayers were answers by God, does he now believe in God's existence? If he does. what kind of Atheist will he be?
this people are so used to computer games and robots, now they think that God can actually be a robot in their hands. very stupid.

Gambling is not a sin.

The foolish girl thinks the four men don't know she's sleeping with all of them.

johnw74:
No, I don't want to tell you anything

as to your description of protestants: even the worst Christian is better than an italo rc

but you go on continuing to pray before the statues of dead people, that's the good little girl.

These are your opinions, not God's.

@adsonstone Lol...when you're ready to answer questions, we will know.

1. You claim to have answered all my questions. Do you remember the question in the 1st pic? If so, can you show where you answered it?

You haven't shown where you answered the question before you claimed you had answered all my questions.

2. The 2nd picture is you dodging my other questions.
3. The third picture is you continuing to dodge them, even affirming that you skipped them...and then answering only one of about four questions.
4. The fourth picture is you pretending as if you hadn't been dodging my questions and me posting the questions again.
All these happened before you finally answered them after I had posted them 3 times...Yet you claim I'm a hypocrite for not answering your questions.
What is it when you first choose how many times to ignore my questions but you get demonize me when I ignore you? Hypocrisy or not?

No answer!

What is it when you claim that you've answered all my questions but you haven't? Lie or not?

No answer!

Then answer the question in the 1st pic in the post you quoted.

You haven't answered. You already saw where he said the Rosary isn't of God...and you're asking where he said Jesus didn't approve.

If you don't mind a bonus: what is the summary of your contribution to this thread again? I honestly don't get it? I know the others are honest in declaring that they are condemning the Rosary (even though they can't muster good rationale).

This is the only one you answered.

adsonstone:
Simple and polite request,
"Kindly repost your questions, separate them so I can see the ones you claim I've not answered" You couldn't, simply because there are no outstanding questions...it's part of the dubious you anyway.

Really?

adsonstone:
As for this one;
First, you have to show where the guy declared that "Jesus didn't approve the rosary"...let's know if he actually said it or if it is another false allegation...as usual.

Which "one"? I thought you said there was no outstanding question. That I'm dubious. Then which question are you answering?

Mr Deeper Life! Smh

@adsonstone

I have deliberately posted the questions three times to meet your requirement for answering me.

Hope to get clear, honest answer.

Amen.

@adsonstone Lol...you're telling me to post the questions, while quoting and dodging the questions.

italo:

1. You claim to have answered all my questions. Do you remember the question in the 1st pic? If so, can you show where you answered it?
2. The 2nd picture is you dodging my other questions.
3. The third picture is you continuing to dodge them, even affirming that you skipped them...and then answering only one of about four questions.
4. The fourth picture is you pretending as if you hadn't been dodging my questions and me posting the questions again.
All these happened before you finally answered them after I had posted them 3 times...Yet you claim I'm a hypocrite for not answering your questions.
What is it when you first choose how many times to ignore my questions but you get demonize me when I ignore you? Hypocrisy or not?
What is it when you claim that you've answered all my questions but you haven't? Lie or not?

Then answer the question in the 1st pic in the post you quoted.

If you don't mind a bonus: what is the summary of your contribution to this thread again? I honestly don't get it? I know the others are honest in declaring that they are condemning the Rosary (even though they can't muster good rationale).

adsonstone:
I won't be offended at any trick you employ in dodging my simple questions.

Of course, you wouldn't see the answers and responses I posted simply because you're blinded by hate..maybe.

I will be very straightforward with you, I have no time for your continuous and cunny dodging of my questions.

Kindly repost ALL the questions you have asked me...both the ones I have answered and the ones you claim I dodged (pls post separately, the one(s) I answered (with my answers) on top and the rest should follow).


We'll know who the hypocrite is.

Lol...you're telling me to post the questions, while quoting and dodging the questions.

italo:
1. You claim to have answered all my questions. Do you remember the question in the 1st pic? If so, can you show where you answered it?
2. The 2nd picture is you dodging my other questions.
3. The third picture is you continuing to dodge them, even affirming that you skipped them...and then answering only one of about four questions.
4. The fourth picture is you pretending as if you hadn't been dodging my questions and me posting the questions again.
All these happened before you finally answered them after I had posted them 3 times...Yet you claim I'm a hypocrite for not answering your questions.
What is it when you first choose how many times to ignore my questions but you get demonize me when I ignore you? Hypocrisy or not?
What is it when you claim that you've answered all my questions but you haven't? Lie or not?

Then answer the question in the 1st pic in the post you quoted.

If you don't mind a bonus: what is the summary of your contribution to this thread again? I honestly don't get it? I know the others are honest in declaring that they are condemning the Rosary (even though they can't muster good rationale).

dmandy:
So you are not done afterall. That's what I said and you are fighting.

Lol.

adsonstone:
I'm not surprised you're dodging.
I have answered ALL your questions here www.nairaland.com/1087122/why-catholics-pray-rosary-bow/16#41039572, no evasion.
That you tagged it a merry-go-round does not mean I did not sincerely answer them.
...meanwhile, here are my questions again, for the fourth time;
1. Where did brocab claim that "when God speaks to an
individual, his word to the individual is not credible
enough?"
2. Why should I fight him or try to debunk him for saying
that God confirms his word to an individual withe
scriptures? Is it untrue?
3. If you believe his claim is an error...as you claim,
debunk it with reasonable proofs...
Simple questions!
..or are you scared that answering them sincerely will further expose your false allegations and gross hypocrisy?

1. You claim to have answered all my questions. Do you remember the question in the 1st pic? If so, can you show where you answered it?

2. The 2nd picture is you dodging my other questions.

3. The third picture is you continuing to dodge them, even affirming that you skipped them...and then answering only one of about four questions.

4. The fourth picture is you pretending as if you hadn't been dodging my questions and me posting the questions again.

All these happened before you finally answered them after I had posted them 3 times...Yet you claim I'm a hypocrite for not answering your questions.

What is it when you first choose how many times to ignore my questions but you get demonize me when I ignore you? Hypocrisy or not?

What is it when you claim that you've answered all my questions but you haven't? Lie or not?

Millerz:
excuse me, proud about what? if you have nothing to say, kindly exit my mentions. bowing to images is idolatry as clearly stated in the bible. Worshipping Mary in the disguise of honoring her is idolatry too. I Owe no one no apologies for speaking the gospel truth.

We Catholics agree with the bold. That's why we don't do them.

What we don't agree with is when you lie in contradiction to the bible that:

1. Mary cannot hear prayers.

2. Christians do not enter her presence (when Heb 12:22-24) says they do.

3. Mary is not an intercessor (when the bible says Mary is like an Angel and Angels intercede and carry our prayers before the Lord)

And because of your fallacy you're afraid to answer these:

Heb12:22 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable angels in festal gathering, 23 and to the assembly of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, and to God the judge of all, and to the spirits of the righteous made perfect, 24 and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel.

So "you have come to" is future tense in your Textbook?

OK. So Mary and the Angels can see us. Thank you.

Can they also hear us?


Do you believe that we partake in God's divinity?

Do you believe that God's Divinity includes his omnipotence, omniscience and omnipresence?

Millerz:
you're totally completely jobless. Do yourself a favour and stop spamming my @.

"Jobless" means 'not having a job.'

"Jobless" doesn't mean 'exposing Millerz' error and making him look stupidd and angry.'

EMILO2STAY:
show me were christ approved temples for christians otherwise stop replying.

It's in the verse where Christ approved Church weddings, Church funerals, 10% tithe and stupidity like yours for Christians.

adsonstone:
As usual, clutching at straws!
It is common among catholics who will always 'point fingers' to non catholics even when the non catholic is of the right opinion.

Here are the questions again, for the third time;

1. Where did brocab claim that "when God speaks to an individual, his word to the individual is not credible
enough?"

2. Why should I fight him or try to debunk him for saying that God confirms his word to an individual withe scriptures? Is it untrue?

3. If you believe his claim is an error...as you claim,
debunk it with reasonable proofs...

Waiting.

You want me to keep answering you when it was you who first started dodging my questions with all kinds of excuses?

Do you want me to repost my questions and your evasive excuses, so we know the hypocrite that first started running?

Or should I save you the embarrassment?

adsonstone:
...and yes, that's the hypocrisy I speak of! when you, Italo, run away from this thread and pretend you did not see the question in my post which I have now made bold (incase you wanna deny), yet, you keep accusing another fellow of exactly the same thing you're guilty of.
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Anyway, I'm not surprised, it is your nature, by default.

You wanted me to keep answering you when it was you who first started dodging my questions with all kinds of excuses?

Do you want me to repost your excuses, so we know the hypocrite that first started running?

Or should I save you the embarrassment?

Ubenedictus:
HE HEHE

The guy was literally living on nairaland yesterday after he ran from this thread. Look at his posts here:

https://www.nairaland.com/millerz/posts

Yet he pretends he was too busy for nairaland.

Millerz:
excuse me... disappear to where? I have a life, I don't live on NL.

its you and your cult of a religion that is in denial. what you practice is idolatry, not Christianity. Not, Mary, not angels have the power to answer prayers. Only God can answer prayers. Mary is no intercessor, otherwise the purpose of the death and resurrection of Christ will be defeated. Jesus Christ is the ONLY mediator and the only way to God the father. Keep inviting demons into your lives. I'm done here.

Lol...avoiding issues like Orubebe.

First he disappears from here since yesterday morning while he continued to comment on other threads till late night yesterday...Yet pretends he was too busy for nairaland...then comes and says things that we were not talking about...and runs away again.

But the main issue is that he is avoiding my questions which expose his heresy.

Heb12:22 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable angels in festal gathering, 23 and to the assembly of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, and to God the judge of all, and to the spirits of the righteous made perfect, 24 and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel.

So "you have come to" is future tense in your Textbook?

OK. So Mary and the Angels can see us. Thank you.

Can they also hear us?


Do you believe that we partake in God's divinity?

Do you believe that God's Divinity includes his omnipotence, omniscience and omnipresence?

@PastorAIO,

Millerz has disappeared to other threads.

He cannot defend his falsehood.

He will not admit he was wrong.

He will rather run away and spread more falsehood on other threads.