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This is false.

It's a ruse peddled by Protestants filled with hate and envy for the Catholic Church.

No "Catholic leaders" said it.

@alrahmanonline,

Please show us a terrorist that claims to get his inspiration to kill from Jesus, the Church or the Bible..

...and I will join you in condemning him or her.

Then compare the number to the number that claim to be killing, raping and enslaving people for Allah.

I'm waiting.

nseke:
what i mean is, if a person or group of persons put forward a document which they believe in,it would only be stating the obvious that the sanctity of such work should sacrosanct at least to the group of person.

Like how the Nigerian constitution is sacrosanct to Nigerians?

preetyb:
Do u think that the catholic church have a perfect doctrine?

Christian, if you are ashamed to answer my questions (which I have asked three times), just say so... instead of pretending you didn't see it, then you ask me a question to side-step my question.

nseke:
catholic church produced INFALLIBLE DOCTRINE, yet catholics flout the doctrine they handed down! Or was the doctrine for others outside the catholics? Just asking

What do you mean by the bold?

preetyb:
Lol. You just want me to keep talking Anyways no.

Now see how much damage private interpretation of the Bible can cause?

You thought you knew what you were talking about. You said it with so much forcefulness. You even said my name is sorry, as a result.

All along, you were grossly ignorant of what you were talking about. You were contradicting the same bible you said even a child can see, read and understand better than Catholics. And you contradicted the bible with arrogant ignorance.

It turns out even a Catholic "child" knows more than you.

Just go to the mirror and look at yourself!

preetyb:
What they say is not my business but Christians should always read the bible and ask the holy spirit for the understanding of what they Read. The church may collapse or may even stop existing but God's word will remain.

Is it the Holy Spirit that gave you the understanding that:

1. 'The Bible is the pillar and foundation of truth?'

2. The Church may cease to exist?

3. Catholic doctrines are flawed?

Be sincere. Please, don't dare lie against the Holy Spirit.

preetyb:
What they say is not my business but Christians should always read the bible and ask the holy spirit for the understanding of what they Read. The church may collapse or may even stop existing but God's word will remain.

Oh! After claiming that the Catholic Church teaches error, suddenly 'what they say is not your business.' lmao!

Why are you afraid to answer my simple questions suddenly? Are you trying to cover up your falsehood?

Here they are again: please answer with honesty and Christian simplicity.

Since you're imperfect, is it possible for you to misunderstand what you read in the Bible...or you're perfect in your understanding of the Bible?


But the Catholic Church says the pillar and foundation of the truth is the Church. Is that another flawed doctrine of theirs...or is it yours that is flawed?

preetyb:
You have the answer to the question u asked already

No I don't...because you have been dribbling around all through.

1. Since you're imperfect, is it possible for you to misunderstand what you read in the Bible...or you're perfect in your understanding of the Bible?


2. But the Catholic Church says the pillar and foundation of the truth is the Church. Is that another flawed doctrine of theirs...or is it yours that is flawed?

preetyb:
I have no doctrine of my own to teach any one. Whatever I told you is base on what I read in the bible. I am a human therefore not perfect. And yes I believe in any doctrine that is in line with the bible. Because I go to a church does not mean I find all its doctrine perfect but becaus I can still lead my self aright with what is written in the bible. The bible is my standard. Because we call sumtin a doctrine does not mean we should Not acknowledge its flaws and accept the Amendment necessary in accordance.

Since you're imperfect, is it possible for you to misunderstand what you read in the Bible...or you're perfect in your understanding of the Bible?

preetyb:

The pillar and foundation of truth is the word of God written in the bible.
Its not about my being wrong or write but about the standard of God which is written in the bible.

But the Catholic Church says the pillar and foundation of the truth is the Church. Is that another flawed doctrine of theirs...or is it yours that is flawed?

Boomark:
Brace yourself like a man, you must answer all my questions too. Lets make obvious, the false doctrines of the catholic church.

He suffering Christ (acts 9:16) with respect to his body...the church. Note that somebody working for Buhari's foundation(where he suffers to help the needy even in remote areas) is doing the job for Buhari.

So tell me, is there any other salvation in Mary, through the scapular and rosary?

When you find out the salvation Paul is suffering and co-working with God for, you'll know the salvation that comes with the Rosary and Scapular.

Boomark:
Bros, brace yourself and show me another false doctrine make I pieces am. Boomark D'tiger since 32.5 AD.

Col1:24 Now I rejoice in what I am suffering for you, and I fill up in my flesh what is still lacking in regard to Christ’s afflictions, for the sake of his body, which is the church.

What is Paul suffering for?

preetyb:
Did I preach anything that is not inside the bible to You.

Yes. You said most Catholic doctrines are flawed. You said no Church has the perfect doctrine. Nowhere does the bible say those.

Besides why is it hard for you to answer questions. Are you hiding something?

1. So all Christians for the first 1500 years of Christianity were wrong and you right?

2. Do you teach or believe any imperfect doctrine?

Or all the doctrines you believe and teach are perfect?

&3. What is the pillar and foundation of truth...the Bible or the Church?

Boomark:
It is good you are now digressing . Am not interested in how much suffering you are suffering for your fellow man(non christians do this for their own people) or how you are a vibrant co-worker. What am interested in is in my Act 4:12 which says, "SALVATION IS FOUND IN NO ONE ELSE..." Not in you, not in Mary, and not in me. This is why we are on this thread.

You need simple understanding here to know that Paul quoted what God said Isa 49:8 and he is not in any way trying to make himself a saviour of the world. So don't force him or Mary into it.

2 Corinthians 6:1-2 New International Version (NIV)
6 As God’s co-workers we urge you not to receive God’s grace in vain. 2 For he says,
“In the time of my favor I heard you,
and in the day of salvation I helped you.” [ a ]
I tell you, now is the time of God’s favor, now is the day of salvation.

This is what the LORD says: "In the time of my favor I will answer you, and in the day of salvation I will help you; I will keep you and will make you to be a covenant for the people, to restore the land and to reassign its desolate inheritances,

As for Col 1:24, no problem, Paul is suffering what Christ said he would suffer for his sake and for the church. That does not make him a saviour of the world.

Am glad I have blocked all mianda and escape route. . "Salvation is in no one else." brace yourself like a man and don't post anything that will seems like you are arguing blindly or that you are too willing to accept what Dominic said about Mary.

What is the summary of your story?

Have your been able to delete 2Cor6:1 or are we still co-workers with God in his plan of salvation?

preetyb:
Because Gods words carries some kind of conviction that is even beyond the imagination of your pope. We accepted it and it is still being accepted not because of who wrote it but because of the devine power in the words and the special conviction it possess

You accept it because the Pope included it.

If the Pope had chosen Gospel of Barnabas, you'd be saying it has conviction.

preetyb:
It is perfect

1. So all Christians for the first 1500 years of Christianity were wrong and you right?

2. Do you teach or believe any imperfect doctrine?

Or all the doctrines you believe and teach are perfect?

preetyb:
No body told u the image of mary is bad but the worship of her image or any other image is what is called idolatry and that is not just bad but a Sin before God. Just so u know, no one is taking abt the bible itself but the words in it. Besides even without these words been written down, God can still say it to our hearing himself. So ur pope did not say nor formed the words in the bible but God did. It is God's words and there is life in those words. And this is sumtin ur almighty pope and every other person can not make to be.

It is the Pope, after choosing the books, that said the chosen books are God's word.

If the Pope had chosen "The Gospel of Barnabas," "The Acts of Peter," "The Acts of Paul," you would have called them God's word.

Now that you say there's nothing wrong with Mary's image, can you wait until someone tells you he's a Mary Image worshipper before you complain?

preetyb:
Please answer your question for me

The question is for you. It is your teaching.

If you are afraid to answer it because doing so will reveal the inconsistency in your position, just say so...

...instead of all these evading tactics.

Is your teaching perfect or imperfect?

preetyb:
Did ur pope tell u that the bible is his?

You're dodging the question.

Why is the image of Mary bad but the book of John good.

God didn't command both of them to be made.

preetyb:
Yes because even a child that can read and understand the bible can point out those flaws to u in the catholic doctrine. Mind u this is not about me or where I worship but about what is written in the blble that all who have eyes can see, read and understand.

The above is your own teaching.

Is the above perfect or imperfect?

preetyb:
What doctrine did I teach to u?. The only thing I knw is that the catholic church has many too obvious flaws in their doctrine.

You're teaching me that many Catholic Doctrines are flawed.

Is that your teaching perfect of imperfect?

preetyb:
What I am saying is no church has a perfect doctrine bcus most times we read with our own interpretation nd not that of the holy spirit. Don't forget the Protestants were once members of the catholic church, so if they broke away it was bcus they saw a flaw in the catholic doctrine and went to found their own unfortunately they themselves have not been able to produce the perfect doctrine and that is the reason they keep splitting.

If your doctrine is not perfect and can contain errors, why are you trying to teach it to us?

How are you sure what you're teaching is not error?

preetyb:
Have u heard of any thing called search the scriptures? If yes do it and if no just try reading your bible

Let's just say you can't show where the Bible said so. Not surprising.

You're just ranting out of ignorance.

preetyb:
Your name is sorry.

There is no need to attack me for exposing your ignorance.

You thought Catholics don't believe there is hell.

We do.

That makes you ignorant.

preetyb:
Who gave the bible to the pope?

There was no Bible before the Catholic Church under the Pope made it in the 4th century.

preetyb:
It is only when u read with the understanding of man that you find the bible not straight forward but if u read with the interpretation of the holy spirit you will know the bible is the most simplest and understandable book to read. Because the holy spirit speak in one voice and interprets one thing.

So your millions of protestant/pentecostal groups that contradict one another are reading with the understanding of man.

You're the only one with the Holy Spirit. Abi?

preetyb:
It is obvious u ve never opened ur bible urself to read before. You only quote from what u hear or was told. What do u mean by no image?. The bible was talking about those that worship images of anything used to replace the almighty God in their heart.

Which verse said the bold?

preetyb:
So you people gave it to mankind yet you poeple decided to deviate from its words.

We don't deviate from its words. We desist from your ignorant understanding of its words.

preetyb:
Una hell fire they separate. If u like u should keep encouraging urself to sin by believing there is no hell but purgatory. E go clear for una eye when time reach.

Shows how ignorant you are. The Catholic Church teaches that there is hell. You'd not have known hell if we didn't teach you.

preetyb:
I smile in Latin. One funny thing about u people is that u know for a fact that most of ur doctrines and believes are wrong but yet you still defend it till u die.

The above is only your deluded imagination. Don't force it on us.

preetyb:
Incase u don't knw, God won't judge base on the church u worship or its doctrine but by his words in the holy bible. Every one shall stand for him self be you a pope, bishop or member. So if you know u are been misled where you worship you had better lead urself the right part now that everyone of us still ve the time. Na my pastor preach am no be excuse on that day.

Where did God ever mention Holy Bible?

It was the Pope that gave us the Bible in the 4th century.

macof:
Yes , the 10 commandments have a babylonian origin. . From the King Hammurabi who created the first laws written on stone tablets

Prove it.

Boomark:
Now at least after reading Isa 49:8 you gat to know that your quotes no join.

Abeg read this:
Act 4:12
Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved."

As you can see, salvation is in no one else including the COWORKERS, PAPER SCAPULAR, PLASTIC CHAPLET, MARY, ITALO, BOOMY , SALC >:-( , etc. Your salvation hope as vibrant Co-worker has been dashed by this single verse.

Sorry o, I did not soay that discourage you but you have to leave salvation of the world to Christ, Mary will be glad you did.

We owe our salvation to God, Rev 7:10, not to men or Co-workers.

Then go and fight St. Paul who said we are co-workers with God and we suffer for other men, completing what is lacking in Christ's ssuffering.

Or better still, you can remove Col1:24 and 2Cor6:1 from the Bible.

Boomark:
He is Suffering for the sake of christ his saviour. You can see this in that Col 1:24 you quoted.

Col1:24 Now I rejoice in what I am suffering for you, and I fill up in my flesh what is still lacking in regard to Christ’s afflictions, for the sake of his body, which is the church.

Liar!