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Millerz:
you would call conflicting opinions "hate"??

johnw74:
Then like I said go and tell them protestants, I don't believe any of that rubbish you talk about.



I gave you one example, are you blind?
go back and read my posts.

Millerz:
You are wrong and this verse has absolutely nothing to do with your question.
The verse you just quoted talks about when we finally ascend to our eternal home in heaven, not while we:re still on earth.

PastorAIO:
I need to go back to school to study my tenses because I get so confused between present tense, past tense, and future tense. They even have past perfect and future perfect.

I have come to the conclusion that only in the future when I ascend will I come to the conclusion.

NanaAmofah:
no one can take christ out of my life but I will not replace the duties. Heb 4:13,heb 7:25,isaiah 53:12
More is coming

EMILO2STAY:
Note: Cardinal Newman, in his book, “The
Development of the Christian Religion,”
admits that ... “Temples, incense, oil lamps,
votive offerings, holy water, holidays and
season of devotions, processions, blessing
of fields, sacredotal vestments, the tonsure (of priests and monks and nuns), images ...
are all of pagan origin...” (Page 359). if a catholic cardinal can admit all this, is it still far fetched that the rosary has roots from pagnism?.

italo:
You haven't answered.

Even your Bible (27-book New Testament was compiled by the Catholic Church in 382AD.

So Who were the Catholic's serving when the compiled and canonized the Bible you're carrying about...when they instituted Christmas and Easter that most Christians (including your so-called pastors like Adeboye) celebrate...when they changed the day of worship to Sunday that most Christians adhere to?

God, Saints or Mary?

NanaAmofah:
Now bro mary intercedes for us when we pray through him right

Now bro, Have you ever asked someone to pray for you? Does that equate to worshipping the person? Does it make the person take the place of Jesus in your life?

Millerz:
And the answer is thus:

one billion Christians can enter into the presence of GOD at the same time. Not the Presence of saints and angels but of God.

Millerz:
Do not put words into my mouth or twist my comment.
God is the only one who can answer prayers. No one else can.

Mary and the Angels can see us. Obviously as believers, we each have guardian angels. It is God that answers our prayers. The angels are mere messengers who God uses to deliver our requests unto us.

Millerz:
Yes, one billion angels can enter into the presence of ''GOD" at the same time "if" they pray in the spirit. That is why God is omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient.

Millerz:
Only God can hear and answer prayers. Neither the angels nor Mary can.

if you don't know, you aren't a Christian.

dmandy:
Brother,

these people are irredeemable, How will God confirm His word with His word? And then confirm His Word which He used to confirm Him word with His what?

I give up already.

dmandy:
Now bro, Have you ever asked someone to pray for you? Does that equate to worshipping the person? Does it make the person take the place of Jesus in your life?

brocab:
The blind will lead the blind.
You cant see that?
Jesus pointed it out this is what my people will do-and sure enough they are doing it as Jesus had said it will.
Jesus said: My people will have dreams and see visions and prophesy-and what do they see the word of God.

NanaAmofah:
My brother in the God not all christains attend church on sundays and also celebrate easter and christmas and do u know that catholic bible is different from some of ours. So I hav humbly answered ur question waiting for the answer of mine thanks

brocab:
The gospel narratives were not written at the time the events happened, like some kind of daily journal entry.
Rather, they were put together later, like most historical narratives, based on the memory research, and compilation. Matthew and John were both eyewitnesses to most of the events in their narratives.
Mark and Luke had access to the eyewitnesses. In fact Luke mentions that he carefully investigated everything from the beginning before writing the gospel.
Luke 1:1-4 "In as much as many have taken in hand to set in order a narrative of those things which most surely believe among us.
Just as those who from the beginning were eyewitnesses and ministers of the word delivered them to us.
It seemed good to me also, having prefect understanding of all things from the very first, to write to you an orderly account, most excellent Theophilus. That you may know the certainly of those things in which you were instructed.
Very probably Mark gleaned information for his gospel from the apostle Peter.
1 Peter 5:11-13 "With the help of Silus, whom I have regarded as a faithful brother, I have written to you briefly encouraging you and testifying that this is the true grace of God. Stand fast in it.
She who is in Babylon, chosen together with you, sends you her greetings and so does my son Mark. Greet one another with a kiss of love. The other benefit he writers had-and this is a big one-is that they were inspired by the Holy Spirit.
2 Timothy 3:16 "All scriptures are breathed out by God, and is profitable for teaching,for reproof for correction, and for the training of righteousness.
In fact Jesus had promised them that the Spirit would bring to their remembrance "everything" I had said. 1 John 14:16. Now you come up the evidence who told you, you can pray the rosary's?

NanaAmofah:
My brother in the God not all christains attend church on sundays and also celebrate easter and christmas and do u know that catholic bible is different from some of ours. So I hav humbly answered ur question waiting for the answer of mine thanks

NanaAmofah:
Now the first question is who are the catholics serving GOD,saints or Mary. Answer and the next question will follow step by step

brocab:
Acts 2:17 "In the last day's, God says I will pour out My Spirit on all fresh, Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions and you old men will dream dreams.
And sure enough as the word said-these things have come to past.
Men and women all over the world, have received visions dreams, and prophesy-backing it up with scripture.

Like the Catholic's said, Jesus didn't tell anyone to write the scriptures.
But your wrong.

johnw74:
You should ask those protestants, I have said I don't have a problem with those two Bibles you talk about.
I believe the jw bible is adulterated, i don't believe jw's are christians. I haven't read any rcc bible so I cannot comment on that, but by the rcc unbibilical traditions perhaps your bible is adulterated too.

But I will give you one example of what the rcc have tried to prevent people from knowing:
The catholic church have tried to prevent people from knowing the Truth of being able to pray to Almighty God Himself, and they taught people to pray before statues, and to Mary the mother of Jesus instead off to God Himself, i think they still do teach that.

rcc even have statues of Joseph, Jesus's step Father in their churches, and statues of angels and so on.

Exo 20:3 "You shall have no other gods before me.
Exo 20:4 "You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
Exo 20:5 You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the LORD your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me,

catholics kneel down and pray before statues, they even kneel and pray before the statues of popes, dead men.
they obviously don't believe the Bible(above verses)

brocab:
Acts 2:17 "In the last day's, God says I will pour out My Spirit on all fresh, Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions and your old men will dream dreams.
And sure enough as the word said-these things have come to past.
Men and women all over the world, have received these dreams and visions, prophesying-backing it up with scripture.
Like the Catholic's said, Jesus didn't tell anyone to write the scriptures.

dapipson:
even if it is written by pagans, prove it?

brocab:
Of course we hear the claims made by Catholic's that Jesus never told any of His disciples to write anything down, and clearly He never wrote any of the scriptures Himself for example.
It is not strange that if Christianity were to be learned from the bible only, that Christ Himself never wrote a line, nor commanded His apostles to write. Only 5 of the 12 did write, for their divine commission was not to write, but to teach and preach the gospel

{Matt 19, Mark 15, Luke 16, Acts 8} They wrote merely to confirm their teaching, and never given the slightest intimation that Christianity was to rest solely on a bible foundation.
Of course the Catholic's will say this is a significant omission in the bible, which in their view severely undermines the validity of the protestant principle. Turn the attention of those who are making such claims, of the book of Revelation.

These verses are quoted from the King James.
Revelation 1:11,19-2:1,8,12,18-3:1,7,14-14:1, 19:9, 21:5. So 12 times to seven different Church communities, John is directed by Jesus to write what became scripture.
Well did Jesus ever write anything down Himself-in His own hand-Yes He certainly did.
Exodus 31:12-18 "Written by the finger of God, He wrote the 10 commandments.

John 21:24-25 "This is the disciple who testifies to these things and who wrote them down.
We know that the testimony is true. Jesus did many other things as well. If everyone of them were written down, I suppose that even the hole world would not have room for the books that would be written.

adsonstone:
Yes, the rosary was being condemned first...and that was the reason I suggested you showing them where Jesus approved it (since they would believe that) rather than you keep claiming that 'Jesus never condemned it'...like you know certainly all what Jesus condemned and approved.

I did not request any proof for my own use...I do not need it, it makes no difference to me.




No, I don't need one.

I have one already.



Again, I did not request it, it was just my suggestion to you...for those who are against the rosary.

I'm not for or against the use of the rosary, it makes no difference to me.


....and I ask you again, or what relevance is deeperlife to what's being discussed?

brocab:
You said it again-the Catholic Church gave you the bible and the rosary's, and I am again confirming it to you, when the Lord speaks He confirms His words with scripture.
So again I ask-where about's in the scriptures, God had given you such info-so the world can believe.

adsonstone:
For once, THINK!

Those statements were comparisons to you wild assumptions and words, to show you they're grossly irrelevant.

Brocab's 'senselessness' is YOUR own claim, what have I to do with it?!

You mentioned that 'Brocab was senseless,' I replied by asking why you were still talking with him, you said to expose him further...I simply answered that 'keep exposing him!'

Do you have any problem with that?!


For the other one, you said you have the right to condemn whatever you do not like, I answered you by comparing your belief to what the Boko Haram believe; that they have a right to condemn and destroy whatever they do not like!

Is that too much for you to deal with?

Again, I say; I have no obligation to provide any proof for anything, I did not claim anything which requires any proof.

If anyone is to prove anything, it is who should prove that; God confirmed the rosary to you..because you claimed that.


Where are the questions I dodged?
Do you mean providing proofs for your own assumptions and claims I did not make?


See, if you cannot be honest and straightforward, it is not compulsory to talk, you have a right not to!

Why should I show you where Jesus approved the Rosary? Did I come to you asking you to pray the Rosary or did your fellow Protestants come on this public thread, condemning the Rosary?

Did you ever ask for proof of where Jesus approved the compilation of the bible before reading it?

Yet you claim am being hypocritical. Is it not hypocrisy to ask me to show where Jesus approved the rosary when you dont do same for the bible and the foundation of Deeper Life?

brocab:
italo, you had already stated that the bible and the rosary's were given to you by the Catholic Church.
What made you change your mind, And denying the truth?

adsonstone:
What are you saying?!

What are my dubious claims?!
Where are they?!

What relevant thing/question have you asked me that I avoided?!

All what I've said relates to the topic of the thread. How does Kumuyi or deeperlife relate to the thread?


Seems your dishonesty is driving you to another level.

Likewise Bokoharam, they believe they have the right to condemn and destroy whatever they do not like.

Besides, if you believe Brocab is senseless as you said, why can't you simply ignore? Or is the urge to talk to him just to much to resist?

adsonstone:
I'm dubious because I debunked your false claim?
Dishonest because I refuted a lie?

I said the guy did not mention that all Jesus said or did was in the scripture.

From his post, I can also correctly imply that he's saying that anything that has no basis in scriptures is not of God.

You can imply whatever suits you.



You have been debunked!
You claimed that Jesus never commanded anybody to write anything! Jesus debunked that in Revelation 1:19 without hesitation!

Simple! No need for irrelevant stories!

Jesus calls you a liar! Go and fight him!



I disagree.

I believe that a teaching does not have to be explicitly recorded in the to be true or to be of God but it must have a basis in the scripture. If it doesn't, it is not of God.



Likewise Bokoharam, they believe they have the right to condemn and destroy whatever they do not like.


It would be unwise for me to prove what's not concerned with the subject of the discourse.[b]

[b]Yes, I skipped...because I know anyone can lie and claim that "it did not occur to them."

If you're honest that it did not occur to you, it is not a lie, it was a careless and ignorant speech, devoid of proof...but if it did, then it is simply a lie.

However, since I can't tell if you're honest or not...besides, I have known you to be dishonest on so many issues, so I can take it to be a lie, or an ignorant speech if it pleases me.




1. I did not observe the post that said so.

2. What's the proof that he's lying?

3. What's the truth about what he said and what's the proof?



Keep exposing him.
As I've said before, I am under no obligation to prove anything, it is outside what's being discussed.

dhateeboi:
1. you claim to follow jesus but u don't need his guidance or words from him before u do things regarding the religion?

and u really follow jesus?
and he has to tell u not to do things he didn't say b4 u know u shouldn't?

dhateeboi:
2. The bible do not contain errors, it only contain contradicting verses. right?

dhateeboi:
Lolz,

I Thessalonians 5:21 :- Prove all things hold fast that which is good

Why then do something out of ur self will?
why do something when there's isn't a clear proof Jesus did it or want u to do it?

And anything that is confusing, as in the bible said YES about something and equally NO in some other chapter....
To be free of errors, one should avoid them totally!!
Never should a Holy book contain errors!

dhateeboi:
You don't know those things and u can never claim that he said those things!!

No proof that he said it

and when there's isn't!!
Y do or follow such things