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Boomark:
All your bible quote does not have anything to do will you, Mary or Paul, being the SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD. That you are working for Christ does not and will not make you a saviour of the world. You cannot save yourself not to talk of saving the world, can you?

With respect to 2Cor 6:1-2, read Isa 49:8 to see the one who did the saying. Don't deceive people by making it look as if it is Paul's saying. Co-workers does not amount to Co-saviours. You can only do work but you don't have any power to save, that belongs to God, 1Cor 1:18. We have only one savour, Acts 5:31, there is no other.

Scapular and rosary salvation no join. It is just heart of those who are always willing to believe falsehood.

We are co-workers with Christ...for the salvation of the world.

If you don't like it, fight St. Paul.

Empredboy:
bro who says he is not the way? We all know!

He is just deliberately scratching the surface...pretending that St Paul and his fellow Catholics are saying Jesus is not the only way.

When he knows that what St Paul and his fellow Catholics are saying is that we are co-workers with Christ (the only way) for the salvation of men.
2Cor6:1 & Col1:24

Empredboy:
you have said it all my bro. Glory to Jesus...., for God and for youth...

...through Christ.

Millerz, boomark, accountable,

2Cor6:1 As God’s co-workers we urge you not to receive God’s grace in vain. 2 For he says,

“In the time of my favor I heard you,
    and in the day of salvation I helped you.”[a]
I tell you, now is the time of God’s favor, now is the day of salvation.

Col1:24 Now I rejoice in what I am suffering for you, and I fill up in my flesh what is still lacking in regard to Christ’s afflictions, for the sake of his body, which is the church.

Do you still say that we are not co-workers with Christ for the salvation of the world?

Then you have to scrap these verses from the bible, right?

Cc Empredboy

Millerz:
bros, there's no addition or subtraction to the word of GOD.

So Col 1:24 is an addition to the word of God?

Millerz:
Jesus "alone" is our lord and personal saviour who bore our burden, faced humiliation, died for us that we may be reconciled with God the father.

I will not respond to further conflicting views on this issue. If you do not know that Jesus Christ "alone" is our only saviour then you shouldn't call yourself a Christian.

Then what was Paul suffering for? What was lacking in Christ's affliction?

Buhari alone is the President and leader of this country? Yes.

Are we his co-workers in leading this country? Yes.

OLAADEGBU:
"And a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars; 2 and she was with child; and she cried out, being in labour and in pain to give birth" (Revelation 12:1-2).

Are these verses talking about Mary as the Queen of Heaven?

Roman Catholics and other traditional religionists, what do you say?

No. The verses are talking about your mother...since it is your mother that bore Jesus.

menix:
Queen of Heaven is a demon onced worshipped by the Israelites that annoyed God...

Most catholics don't even know what they worship, catholic is a religion of Idolatry..

Read Jeremiah 7 from verse 15 to know whom u worship..

Make I go wear my armor plate cous the truth hurts..

Ez26:7 For thus says the Lord God: I will bring against Tyre from the north King Nebuchadrezzar of Babylon, king of kings, together with horses, chariots, cavalry, and a great and powerful army.

You're worshipping Nebuchadnezzar?

nedu2000:
It's a shame the way we see the pope,a mere mortal...these cars are luxury vehicles.
Danfo no dey uganda?

How do we see the pope?

Millerz:
Jesus alone is the saviour of the world. Jesus christ is the way, the truth and the life, no man cometh to the father except through Jesus.

did Mary die for your sins? No. Jesus did.

Jesus alone is the saviour...

But we are all co-workers with him...especially Mary. She cooperated with him to save the world...and she's still doing so.

24 Now I rejoice in what I am suffering for you, and I fill up in my flesh what is still lacking in regard to Christ’s afflictions, for the sake of his body, which is the church.

Tell me what Paul was suffering for?

What was lacking in Christ's suffering for us?

Boomark:
You do err not knowing the difference between WORLD and CHURCH(body of Christ). I wonder when the body of Christ changed to become the world, Infact, you do err not knowing the scripture. We are all ears and eyes to know how Mary will save the World.

End time Pastors/church fathers suffer their voice to win something more than ice cream.

So what is Paul suffering for?

Anas09:
Vooks U dey fall my hands here oo. Abeg leave Italo alone. This thing is not by power or might. If you don't have the Spirit of God, U can't see the truth even it is so glarring. Pls stop this war of words.

Yes. And your truth is that something is evil when Catholics do it but when pentecostals copy it, it becomes good.

vooks:
But in the NEW TESTAMENT, the exact Greek word used there is used of worshipping God so your argument is moot. Jesus received the exact same WORSHIP God received.

And there is no record of anybody else on New Testament who was worshipped apart from Jesus and of course God. Show me anybody who received worship apart from Jesus in the New Testament

The same Greek word "proskuneo" was used in Matt18:26 by the slave for his master.

Was the master God?

Also shachah is the same Hebrew word used for both worship of God and worship of man in the OT.

Scriptural illiterate.

vooks:
Exodus 18:7 (ESV)
7 Moses went out to meet his father-in-law and bowed down and kissed him. And they asked each other of their welfare and went into the tent
Where is worship here?

You asked for proof that Jesus was worshipped on earth and I have you. What was your point?

Again, Jesus was and is worshipped as God. Since he was worshipped on earth, do you have any objection to the world worshipping you italo?

When he was born, Angels worshipped him. Do you think you are worthy of worship just like Jeaus Christ italo?

The bible wasn't written in English. The Hebrew word (shakah) used in that verse was "worship."

The bible didn't say Jesus was worshipped as God.

I have no objection, if you want to worship me...

Afterall, Moses worshipped his Father-in-law.

vooks:
You have ignored a simple question

DO YOU PRAY TO MARY TO POSSESS TOU AS TAUGHT BY POPE JOHN PAUL II?

My question is more relevant to the topic and has been waiting for answer for a longer time.

Is Adeboye a soothsayer?

Do pentecostals practise the same things they condemn catholics for?

E.g calling pastors daddy, while condemning Rev. Father, declaring Awolowo in heaven while condemning Pope for declaring John Paul in heaven, condemning changing of wine to blood if Jesus while claiming to changing petrol to juice, condemning 10 hail marys as vain repetitions while praying "catch fire" 100 times, and many more.

vooks:
Buffoon,
Rosary was used by pagans many years before Dominic.
Vain repetition was used by pagans many years before and by deluded false Christians
Question is,
EXACTLY what is it thT was revealed to Dominic?

stone tablets with religious texts like the 10 commandments were also used by pagans long ago.

vooks:
I don't. There are some people who eat snakes but personally that is not my thing. It is sin to suck a man's penis.

I notice you won't admit to this
Do you pray for Virgin Mary to possess you?

Is Adeboye a soothsayer?

Do pentecostals practise the same things they condemn catholics for?

E.g calling pastors daddy, while condemning Rev. Father, declaring Awolowo in heaven while condemning Pope for declaring John Paul in heaven, condemning changing of wine to blood if Jesus while claiming to changing petrol to juice, condemning 10 hail marys as vain repetitions while praying "catch fire" 100 times, and many more.

vooks:
Luke 24:52King James Version (KJV)

52 And they worshipped him, and returned to Jerusalem with great joy:

Do you think this happened on Mars or Uranus?

Moses also worshipped(shakah) his father-in-law in Ex18:7...so men can also receive worship.

vooks:
Do you pray to Virgin Mary to possess you?

Did you eat a snake or drink anointed milk from your pastors penis?

vooks:
He received worship of men so by your logic,

It is equally not a sin to receive worship. Can I worship you italo?

Where did Jesus receive worship on earth?

vooks:
You quoted that verse to justify praying to dead men so obviously you must have been brainwashed to read dead men there. Where are dead men in this verse?

I didn't. You're hallucinating again.

vooks:
WHEN was that?



He has not. So I ask, on what basis do you worship Devils and beg them to possess you and basically get guidance from them?

You said the bold.

Ask the writer of Heb 9:12 when. I'm not the writer.

vooks:
Jesus is God and you are not God. Do you also receive worship from men as Jesus did?

Jesus never broke a commandment.

If he talked to saints, it can't be a sin.

vooks:
Because they are in EVERY way as alive as you are you fool. These are living Christians not dead men. You are the one who claimed they are dead men in heaven WITHOUT any basis for that.

Where did I say so?

vooks:
Ret@rd
How is prophecy necromancy?
Remember Adeboye never claimed to have talked to the dead unlike your demon possessed religion condones

We talk to living saints, like Jesus.

vooks:
When did Jesus take his blood to heaven?

In Hebrew 9:12.

vooks:
Am asking according to Catholicism, when did God abrogate his laws on necromancy?

You said the bold so tell us when.

vooks:
italo, why do you bury your dead seeing they are living saints?

But you also called them living saints. Why do you bury them?

vooks:
Here are Cathlics invoking demons to possess them

Consecration to Our Lady by Pope John Paul II
Immaculate Conception, Mary my Mother
Live in me, act in me.
Speak in and through me.
Think your thoughts in my mind.
Love through my heart.
Give me your dispositions and feelings.
Teach, lead and guide me to Jesus.
Correct and enlighten and expand my thoughts and behaviour.
Possess my soul and take over my entire personality and life.
Replace it with yourself.
Incline me to constant adoration and thanksgiving.
Pray in and through me.
Let me live in you and keep me in this union always. Amen.

Here are pentecostals eating snakes demons.

Same thing you complain about.

vooks:
There is a gift of prophecy you bloody idiot. Why are you digressing? Back to Carholic satanism

.

There is also communication with saints.

Why are you digressing...back to pentecostal condemning and copying catholics.

vooks:
Jesus took his blood to heaven, right?

No. He took it to your bedroom.

Heb12:22-24 shoes that we access God, his city, the heavenly Jerusalem, Jesus, angels,saints.

If you don't like it, go and fight God.

vooks:
And more to the point, which of these verses tell you Necromancy is now legalized ?

You said the bold.

vooks:
You should first provide evidence so we can examine it. But satanists like their father are full of lies so I know this is a tall order

Worshipping demons will land you in hell son. Repent

https://www.naij.com/352163-pastor-enoch-adeboye-reveals-2015-prophecies.html

So is he and other pentecostals evil for being soothsayers?

Dodge again!

vooks:
Please read the last part of that verse. Is there blood in heaven?

Ah! No! The blood in the verse below is in hell.

Heb9:12 - Neither by the blood of goats, or of calves, but by his own blood, entered once into the holies, having obtained eternal redemption.

vooks:
You really love your foolishness. Tell me. Samuel who appeared to Saul, was he 'living saint'?

You haven't told me if Adeboye and you are evil for being soothsayers and dream observers...

You're still dodging that.