₦airaland Forum

LadyT:
Oh I understand but I really dont think the poster has done anything bad but our people sha *sigh*

Oh yea, our people don't forget the past and they tend to judge one from his/her past.

LadyT:
What is anyone going to do with her picture that they can't do with her facebook pictures



@poster just ask him what his update on FB is about no point dancing around the topic. Im sure he will start acting like a rabbit caught in headlights.

Better to move on before you get any deeper

Not her picture per se but her future, _{oh that rhymes hehe}. Like i said earlier, it's a small world we live in. Everyone has a past but we don't go telling the whole world about just any how, especially putting personal details along. Our actions today can hunt and hurt us tomorrow.

@OP, pls do ursef a favor and remove your picture here, _{hoping it's not too late}. It's a small world we live you know and NL is even smaller. You have given out a lot here already and you also put a face to it. Just an advice!

@OP, is the girl Nigerian? if yes, then you have no problem to win oh sorry, steal her heart. If you buy her a Blackberry torch and dole out enough cash regularly, she will willingly surrender her heart to you, in that case you wouldn't need to steal it, _{so i heard though}

Good news for my dear state. I hope he doesn't go back to pdp though. Nice, congrats to him!

edicolove:
What part of the english language dont you understand. I said the murderers were killing people and shouting "sai Buhari" as they murdered their victims. You can read the story of the brave patriotic northerner again and open your eyes this time. How can you say the violence had nothing to do with the elections?

1. Was there any violence like that in the north b4 the elections? Jos crisis was a tribal one. Did you not see the difference between that and this one?
2. Did the almajiris that were arrested not say that they did what they did because of the "purported rigging"
3. If is was not about elections, will they have attacked northerners who were members of PDP? have you ever seen a riot where the northerners attacked their own leaders b4?

what are you talking about? please stop justifying the murders. for every murder you justify, the blood of the innocent will be on your hands. period!

To your questions, i take it that you are either ignorant or you choose to be. You contradict yourself further with the post above this one (your response to the other guy) but at least i am happy that you are beginning to make sense. You claim that the plan had been perfected before the elections right? so why hinge it on the elections? The issue is not the elections and not with Buhari, the northerners feel it is their right and turn to rule nigeria as had been handed to the by PDP. So even if it was an ordinary Onions-selling aboki that contested, what is happening would have also happened cos as you rightly put it, it had been perfected and they waited for the election period to unleash mayhem to the southerners. This is a south/north issue, a xtian/muslim issue and not Buhari issue, that is what i am trying to put into your head but it seems so difficult to do. The solution is, let all southerners come back if possible, let's see who they will now kil and if they will bring their jihad to the south, or in the worst case, let Nigeria be divided!

virgo:
You implore others to think but well excuse me, have you not heard the witness statements of one of the corpers who escaped the death that claimed the late Obinna Okpokiri, Ukeoma Ikechukwu, Seun Adewumi and others killed in Giade Bauchi? They were not even given a chance!!!! In the case of Seun, one of his students identified him!!!! Do you think he was given a chance to say "Sai Buhari?". Who would see life and death, and then choose to die? Wow!!! Please try to imagine the terror these poor souls went through before you trivialize their deaths. If you go back and read the story of that non Hausa Fulani Muslim that saved those Christians again, he said as the rioters continued to hack one of their victims to death, they were asking him to repeat Arabic proclamation of Allah's greatness and the man tried but he was too weak. Note the word "too weak". I assume those guys had no intention of sparing him if they didn't give him a chance to repeat their words.

Also, Buhari has managed to entrench his Messianic syndrome into the consciousness of the average almajiri, and coupled with the resentment of a Southerner being in charge, the anti South, anti- Christian sentiments is bound to rise again. Besides that, how can you arrest a man if there is no evidence of direct involvement in the killings of corpers? We as intelligent beings will blame him and Tunde Bakare for making inciting speeches, but that is all the evidence we have. In the courts of law, that evidence is inadmissible. I agree that the government owes Nigerians more than bloated legislators and senators with fat salaries but we must ask the Northern elites to stamp out the culture of hate in their midst.

Oh you are here again! Please read my comments well before you reply. I was responding to the gentleman who said the miscreants were shouting sai buhari and needed their victims to do same. I was only buttressing my point that the issue is anything but political. You say people's comments incite violence, so tell me what are you trying to achieve by saying i am trivializing people's death? Again, read my comments well before posting!

edicolove:
Those who continue to justify murders and destruction by attributing it to purported rigging and the faiure of govt will share in the blood of those who were killed. Like a columnist said in Thisday, they have trivialized the death of innocent people and glorified the so-called reason for the genocide. Posterity will require the blood from your hands.

1. You are justifying a premeditated murder and destruction that started on Saturday night in Gombe when results where not even collated. By Sunday night, half of the north was already burning. Results were announced on Monday.
2. You are justifying an incitement to violence by Buhari when he went on air on Saturday and started saying the elections were already rigged. After he had told the mob during his campaign that they should lynch anyone who rigged.
3. You are justifying the barbaric slaughter of innocent Youth Corpers and pastors with the cry of "sai Buhari". Those cutlasses were coming down the necks of those innocents under the cry of "sai Buhari". Heaven will judge.
4. You are justifying the violence that erupted because a southerner won an election. The same violence that never was when Yaradua won in 2007 even after most people said the election was as sham.
5. You are justifying the burning of churches that had nothing to do with the elections.

Posterity will judge all of you. Most of you stay abroad and write all this stuff. But may posterity judge all of you that have tried to trivialize the death of Okporokiri and Ikechukwu who were mowed down just because they refused to allow underage voting and mass thumb printing by CPC supporters. Anyone who continues to justify their death will have their blood on his hands. You can insult me all you like, but what goes around comes around.

Mr, don't let unnecessary emotions becloud your sense of reasoning and judgement. Who is justifying the killings, i am probably more concerned than you are cos i know someone who was affected. How hard is it for you to extract or discern facts from what we are saying here? I am saying these violence has nothing to do with the elections and there you go contradicting yourself (see the highlighted part of your lines). Now i implore you to bring the links to all those stuffs you said about them asking the people to say sai Buhari, so that means if one said Sai Buhari, he would not be killed right? Who in his right senses will see death coming and what could save him was just mere utter of "sai buhari" and wouldn't scream it? Come on man, you should be smarter than this! The link we all read here weekend of a brave northerner who saved some southerners was that the animals asked them to say some Islamic stuffs and not "your sai Buhari". The whole thing is not political and i repeat it again, it is not political, it is religious and tribalism which was timed with the electioneering period. Now also if Buhari is responsible, is he bigger than Nigeria, this is almost two weeks now, why hasn't he been at least summoned for questioning by the SSS or other security operatives as  they usually do? What i am saying and will continue to say is that the government has failed in their duty to provide security to the common masses of the federal republic of Nigeria, if nothing is done and you come here shouting Buhari all day, it will not change anything, let the Government do something and fast for that matter. An ordinary legislator, even a commissioner goes around with about 10-20 fully armed mobile policemen and soldiers, why can't they just make sure that one fully armed soldier is responsible for at least 100 people in that heated region? Think, think!

texazzpete:
Still the same tired and imbecilic argument you people throw out.
If you had lost a friend of relative in Jos this january, would you have been blaming Buhari? If your loved one was killed during the Reinhard Bonnke/Akaluka/Miss World/Danish cartoon riots, would you have blamed CPC?

There's a Government to which most of us pay taxes to. In return, they are charged with ensuring the safety of their citizens, with none having more responsibility than the Commander in chief of the armed forces, and the man who the Police IGP and the SSS heads report to.

If ordinary forumites claim that Buhari's speeches were 'inciting', shouldn't the SSS, Police and army have had similar concerns and should have been on ground to curtail any violence?

After 9/11, Americans turned to their President, the FBI and CIA for answers and explanations on how that tragedy was allowed to happen. Since then, these agencies have become more proactive. It's only in Nigeria where majority of the people are complacent SHEEP that we are all content with our Government being reactive, mere months after hundreds were slaughtered in Jos in the past few months.

Exactly what i am saying(with emphasis on the bolded part). It takes only a not-so-smart person to believe or say that one man is responsible for the violence that has erupted in the North.

virgo:
Lol. I hear you. So you agree that the country is a failed project?

I knew it was 12 years ago!

virgo:
Well sir, my point is we must also start with ourselves before government can do anything. And in any case, the almajiris in the North must undergo serious orientation to be able to become better citizens. This burden falls on the educated elites of the North that have treated their own children to education in foreign countries at the expense of their own people.

We cannot isolate the government and ask them to do the impossible. You should never underestimate passions my friend. People filled with hate or indoctrinated to hate others based on religious convictions will go any length to thwart efforts by the government to bring security to a country. Without speaking for Jonathan (mind you, I am one of his most ardent critics), If the government deals with this crisis with a firm hand, trust that some mischievous elements will tell the almajiris "i told you so. you see that the "kaffirs" are your enemies?". Then, enter suicide bombing. See Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan for reference. Let us use this opportunity presented by the recent outbreak of violence in the North to sit down and carve a new path for Nigeria or simply see how we can part ways amicably if it will save lives. That is my stand.

I see you are in Abuja, you can easily communicate your stand to Aso Rock and Senate. I am far away hence, can do little or nothing, so we can start with you. If you feel the matter is too sensitive for the Government to deal with, then you can help us educate some of them to turn their hate to love, as if you do not know that those animals are trying so hard to make Nigeria be even worse than those countries you mentioned. Let the Government start at all with "soft hand" and we see where it will lead to. Gotta rest and worry less about this failed country!

virgo:
Sir make-very-little-sense, exactly what is your point? Did you read my posts before asking me all these questions? My point is, intolerance in the North is to blame. So long as people are taught to hate others based on religious, party or ethnic affiliations there will be problems. And "my Jonathan" as you succinctly put it, is between a rock and a hard place thanks to the miscreants from Niger and Chad, the presence of Al Qaeda and our mutual animosity for each other across the Niger.

At least i make little sense and if you are smart, you would have understood where i am coming from. What i am saying is no one person can be accused or held responsible for all  these, we have had many of such before. We can't sit back and continue shouting Buhari while people are being killed everyday, something has to be done, i can't do it, you can't do it, only the government can tackle this mess!

virgo:
What a joke!!! Well listen dear, I am just as entitled to my opinion as you are to yours. If the cap fits, please gladly wear it. If you excuse murderers, don't come here ordering me around. By the time, Al Qaeda shows up at your door step, you will know the real problem in Nigeria.   SMH

Madam know-all, have you read in the papers or seen on TV that those animals are killing people because of political affiliation? I mean do they ask, are you a member of PDP or did you vote for GEJ or Buhari before they kill? Aren't there PDP northerners? Why are they not being killed? The problem at hand is not political, get that into your head, it's purely religious, sectional and tribalism (which was  timed with the electioneering period) and all in all, it's a security issue that falls on the table of the federal republic of Nigeria headed by your president, GEJ.

fxtopedia:
Why this course?
May YOU AND YOUR FAMILY EXPERIENCE THE SAME  AGONY FAMILY OF PEOPLE WHO DIED IN JOS,SULEJA,ABUJA HADetc.
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virgo:
It is the almajiri apologists all over NL and Nigeria that I blame for not being sincere. Whether you like it or not, Nigeria cannot be compared to Western countries as we are culturally and religiously diverse. A country with citizens speaking different languages and abiding by different ideologies is not the same with one that speaks the same language and has the majority of its citizens belong to the same religion. As much as I agree that GEJ should take a bold step in fishing out perpetrators of these senseless killings that have been going on, I am aware of the fact that the average Hausa man is deeply distrustful of the Southerner. It doesn't help that their religious leaders have indoctrinated them and their so called leaders in power have conveniently found scapegoats to carry out their nefarious activities.

Gen. Buhari knows the make up of the Northern society and their insecurities, so he is every bit as guilty as the miscreants who killed innocent people by inciting them to use violence in the event of his loss to PDP. Since the North has more illiterate people than literate people, this man banked on their ignorance to whip up the already existing anti-West, anti- Christian, and anti- South sentiments. Why on earth was the president being referred to as a "Kaffir" in their fliers? Why did he completely disregard the South, banking on the underage voters and Islamic extremists to get him to be the president of a nation of over 250 tribes? Why did Buhari show such contempt for a culturally diverse country in the last election? You don't need to read the 48 Laws of power to know that his tears prior to the election was only for a section of the country.

People have been tired of PDP and their non delivery for 12 years. I occasionally fault the President's policies, but I hold anyone who suffers from superiority complex in complete disdain. Gen. Buhari and his cohorts had their part in the riots. As for those of you who pretend that Nigeria can be compared to Western countries that share a common language and religion, you need to look again at your claims by looking closely at Nigeria and its problems. Educated Northerners are also culprits because they will never come out to blame their extremists brothers, maybe for fear of sounding like they are pro South or out of sheer wickedness. Rather than solve their problems, they are determined to drag us down with them with their songs of one Nigeria. All of you making excuses for Buhari or the continued genocide of Southern Nigerians in the North, I pray that you experience the agony of parents who lost their children to the mayhem, AMEN. Until we all agree that there is a problem in the North, Nigeria is a failed project.

What right have you got to curse anyone here? I am entitled to my opinions as it affects me as much as you do. It's people like you that are causing the problem we are having in Nigeria. Please next time restrain caution, this is a public forum, don't bring your ill-mannered domestic habits here! Now take back your curse!

I am tired of reading all these threads about whom to blame for the post-election crisis and even sick of all these people calling Buhari! Is Buhari bigger than a Country of 150million people? Is he more powerful than the Government of the federal republic of Nigeria? If he is then why rig him out of the election, he would have as well be given the mantle of leadership. So if those animals kill one-quarter of people of Nigeria, you still sit here and say Buhari is the cause when the man has told anyone who cares to listen that he has nothing whatsoever to do with the killings which, even if he didn't say it doesn't really matter. Come on, we have a sitting president, who is meant to be responsible for every citizen. Just last week, the minister for interior or so was sacked and that made NL front page and you guys started hailing him saying he sacked him for not performing his duties as regards the security situations and that meant the security issues were going to be tackled, but two days later, your GEJ's goverment said he was sacked for engaging in inter-party affairs, can you beat that? A country is boiling so hot, almost being brought down by some uneducated animals and your president is talking about inter-party affairs.

Please, it is shameful and sheer cowardice for people to continue calling Buhari's name in this whole thing. This is a security issue which must be tackled by the Government. The continued massacre of innocent citizens by whatever guise and nothing is still done about it goes a long way to show Gej is not capable of ruling a country as complex as Nigeria and this has always been my number issue against him, he is weak and can only crawl when he is pushed to run. Let him do something and stop all these blame talks!

You/your cousin should make good research. Europe or any other place is not what we think it is.

Before i comment, i would like to correct you, it's Igbo and not Ibo. I don't know why you guys see the right spelling and decide to spell and pronounce it differently and it even pains me more when Igbos try to form and also spell and pronounce it as you did. In my land, we do IQ test before we give our girls out especially to non-Igbos, and that may be the first test - to spell and pronounce IGBO!

Now to the issue at hand, no excuse here, bros you go pay and for putting her in a family way before bride price, you will be required to do about 100 frog jumps! No Igbo family wants to be an object of ridicule, so be fast in your preparation and go take care of the dowry!

It seems there are more enemies than friends here.

Here we go again, a president calling opposition leaders to call their supporters to order in a country he is alleged to be the commander-in-chief. This is one of the issues i raised about this man, he is weak and not capable of ruling a country as complex as Nigeria. What if the opposition leaders he is talking about deny any link with the supporters he talked about, so innocent citizens will continue getting killed. I know the next thing he will say is that Nigerians should pray for mayhem to end. Good luck to Nigeria indeed!

What a shame! Well good luck to Nigerians, i hope it doesn't turn to bad luck eventually. BB still remain my agents of CHANGE! In my heart and millions of true patriots, you WON!

I wonder the criteria for placing threads in home page. How can this stupid one be there?

Buhari means well for Nigeria. It's evident when he speaks, he has plans and knows exactly what to do. It doesn't take a lifetime to put things right, but it has taken PDP-led Government 12yrs to even try to begin, it is totally unacceptable. I was listening to Cool fm online streaming today and heard that the just-concluded Saturday election which was adjudged a bit fair(kudos to Jega and his team) has now become a campaign affair for GEJ. Why didn't he give Nigerians at least 8hrs of uninterrupted power supply a day and then promise to make it 16hrs if elected, do u think i will be here talking about Buhari? I thought they promised 24hrs power supply last year, what happened? I heard it's even worse now. I hope these people being attracted to GEJ and PDP because of tribal and religious sentiments will not run away to Ghana or Togo to live when the hardship and sufferings become" immensely" unbearable. We have a choice to make now, a choice to change our collective destiny as a nation. Change is all we need now, little wonder they say, "the only constant thing is change".

great match for Liverpool! Classy performance, my liverpool of old,

I knew Aunty Dora would get this degrading state. You don't dine with corrupt people and pretend to be a saint. Power is indeed intoxicating, i guess this is her own way of re-branding Nigeria, interesting. Shame!

[quote author=Inked_Nerd link=topic=642473.msg8089457#msg8089457 date=1302377818]
Why should she have to do that? If she asked the same of him, I'm quite sure he wouldn't do the same. And must she have a reason to have all those degrees? What does it matter whether she wants one PhD or 20 degrees? Is it not her choice?[/quote]Read my post very well, i started with "marriage talks aside" and to your question, what will it profit her if she has all the degrees and never used any? Have you heard of d word, "over-qualification"? well i have. She's already got a masters degree and like you said she has her reasons for the degrees but if she doesn't want to be an academic now, then i see no other reason for someone who obviously hasn't  started working, i may be wrong though.

@OP, marriage talks aside, why are you packing all the degrees like me, what do you need a PhD now for? Do you want to be an Academic, then talk sense into him and go for it but if you wanna be a professional or a career lady as you call it then i advise you halt it for now, break into the career world, possibly marry your man and then continue later.

These are Jega's words on this bombing issue: "Planners of the Bomb blast that killed or maimed corps members and INEC staff in Suleja wanted to scuttle elections but Nigerians must resist them by trooping out to vote"

Now tell me, who stands to gain if this happens? This is just common sense and the Prof himself who is at the receiving end of all these knows it so i wonder why some people here are talking thrash! The Government of the day must be held responsible for all these, period!

Dahbutter:
Looking @ dis from a neutral point of view, a bomb blast on INEC could only have been planned to frustrate the election so as to prevent a change of power from the incumbent govt. to any new one. we all know the implications if elections r cancelled or postponed and the beneficiaries of such a scenario to understand who is behind it. I ask, does yr family member have to become a statistic 4 u to accept that PDP is evil? please remove sentiments and b rational here. . .The prophesy is being fulfiled!

Well said, exactly what i said above that some morons didn't understand! It doesn't take a PhD degree to point that out! They have failed woefully this time around!

@pataki, don't mind the fools! They are as clueless as their leader in Aso Rock. If not for the efforts of the brave security agents, they would have also come here to say that CPC or the Northerners bombed themselves to prove a point.

"@IYKED AND THE REST
IT BLEEDS MY HEAR TO SEE PEOPLE POLITICIZING MASS MURDER.
DEATH IS DEATH UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE. "MAY YOUR MURDER
NOT BE SWEPT AWAY AS POLITICS".
NO HUMAN LIFE IS A BARGAINING CHIP NOT EVEN YOURS.
IF I CHOOSE TO KILL YOU THERE IS NOTHING GEJ OR PDP  
OR ANYBODY CAN DO TO STOP ME.
ONLY YOU CAN STOP ME BY EXPOSING ME WICKEDNESS.

A MURDER IS A MURDER. "

What are you saying dude, how am i politicizing it? Cos death is death, no one shud be held accountable for it right? So do u take responsibility for it  since the Government in Power shouldn't. Hundreds die daily in mass murder and all the Government can say is "Pray"  and then the deaths swept under the carpet. In your case, i pray for you as your government has told us to , that you will not be the next victim to die like a fowl!

Sad news, just saw it on facebook a while ago. May the souls of the departed rest in peace. All these things happening further shows that GEJ and indeed PDP are unfit to rule this country. Bombing has become a norm in Nigeria and i hear his solution is that Nigerians should pray, as if we have not been praying for good roads, power supply, good educational system etc. Gej must not continue, if this is a plan by he and his men to cause confusion so that people will be scared to come out and vote, they have failed. These corrupt people can do anything, they are not  sure of JEGA helping them out again, so they can go to any length to cause confusion so that either people are scared to come out and vote or the elections will not hold in general and then Gej will continue in office. I see NATO fighters coming to naija soon.

dayokanu:
He is a clueless president and needed Bakare to come liberate him from the aprons of Turai

True! Couldn't even act as a man talk less of as VP during the Turai Drama days!