₦airaland Forum

Elusive001:
You dey lecturethe illiterates bah?

Leave them to continue foaming in the mouth. When finish, dem go go look food chop.

[color=royalblue]I have a lot of spare time

I go soon leave them, make dem dey disgrace themselves dey go [/color]

ayindejimmy:
The preservation of Fundamental human right is even above the constitution and it ensures freedom of association.
So you cant force union upons anybody - it's voluntary

[color=royalblue] It's pointless engaging you on this discourse.

You're right, my friend. Very right. I'm sure Dangote doesn't know this line. I hope he sees it, so he can show PENGASSAN and stop this drama.

Take care![/color]

12inchess:
Imagine having equal votes with someone with this kind of thinking. Many Nigerians go to school but are uneducated. A workers union is meant to protect the rights of workers in the union and is recognized by our labor laws and not to build refineries. Nigerians are so used to being mistreated at work that they can't even phantom that they should have rights to fair treatment.

[color=royalblue]As simple as the bolded is, many Nigerians cannot understand it.

God help us![/color]

Elusive001:
I laugh at all of them talking against NUPENG and PENGASSAN. They are uninformed. Most of them are hawkers and road side kiosks owners who do not know what these unions stand for.

[color=royalblue] Probably content creators who have no idea of what a corporate work environment should be.

Very Ignorant set of people [/color]

lionshare:
Both the workers and the refinery ultimately serve one group: the end-users—the people. If the people don’t want any disruption in supply, who are the workers to complain? Between workers, investors, and the end-users, who is easier to replace? Resisting change only leads to being crushed. It’s better to embrace change first, then find ways to align your interests with those of the end-users and investors. If not, the door is always open.

[color=royalblue]So if they owe me for months, or provide poor working conditions, because you don't want any disruption, I shouldn't complain abi?

Chai! This guy![/color]

ayindejimmy:
Must every work place have a union ?
The only thing I know unions do in Nigeria is control pricing and armtwist employers .

Where were the unions when Tinubu removed subsidy , them kept quiet because it favours them
Now , someone is trying to terminate the oil cabals they are going on strike

[color=royalblue]Yes, according to the Nigerian Labour Law. It stipulates that if a workplace has a particular number of staff, they MUST have a Union.

Yes..
YES
YESSSS....

Like, before you argue, just read first.

Once again, Yes.[/color]

Winnin009:
You've been talking since. I'm not sure you know the full meaning of PENGASSAN to begin with.

You're acting as if PENGASSAN is the only union in that refinery.

Pengassan to start with isn't fight for the collective rights of anyone but senior oil staff.
So, what about the other thousands of Nigerians working there? Lol.

Guy, dey stop to think sometimes.

[color=royalblue]Can you tell us another Union in that refinery?

I am very sure you will disappear now. I am sure

Tell me another Union again that has opened there, apart from PENGASSAN.[/color]

chidiokay:
No my comment is not the problem, chinese n Lebanese treat our people anyhow cos our leaders (govt/union) sold us out to those IOC

if your neighbour see your parent nd still beat you mercilessly in front of your dad know dem don collect dowry on your head

You know Osifo pengassan president said the same thing, Total, shell, mobile are ten times bigger ... and i felt ashame for his 1st class, what a shame

1st Total, shell and mobile are not in the same line of production has Dangote refinery ... shell,total are miners they are suppose to be bigger cos they are top on the distribution chain, they feed n supply refineries
ideally dangote refinery is bigger than any depot or marketer oil farm .. comparing dangote with shell is invalid

Shell n Total can't run down becos that part of the oil sector is crucial to Nigeria heartbeat, if they grumble it ... No money for anybody again.

On the contrary Refinery is that sector, Nigerian enemy dont want to Function at All, 4 refineries we own are under Pengassan for decades have you ever seen pengassan shut down the nation nd say enough is enough this refineries must work ... most of our members are 1st class intellectual we will work with the contractors to ensure the refineries work

Pengassan feels it ok to shut down the economic becos of 800 workers But i want Osifo to do the maths of members they for get if only the other refineries are working actively .. why that one no pain them

with the actions of Pengassan to bully Dangote into sunmission, Please does that motivate Investors to come build refinery here, with shege Dangote don see since he began that refinery why should any investor risk his fund in that sector ... 1st class my Ass

[color=royalblue]So Shell, Seplat, 11Plc, Chevron, and hundreds of foreign firms are not investors, abi?

You don't even know what side you're one.

Foreign investors will disappear if Unions exist, but all the foreign investors actually have the Unions. It's our own Nigerian brother that is scared of having it.

Some jokes write themselves, my guy[/color]

lionshare:
You're funny—do you really think Dangote can afford to pay everyone? Nobody wants fuel scarcity or disruptions to their daily lives and livelihoods, which is exactly what this drama could lead to if it continues. Plus, the past behavior of these unions has already left a sour taste in many people's mouths. They’re often seen as self-centered and rarely show genuine concern for the welfare of ordinary Nigerians.

[color=royalblue]A Workers Union is for Workers, not for you.

What concerns PENGASSAN with an Ordinary Nigerian? Are you part of PENGASSAN?

I don't even understand you guys. You type so well, but choose to compose a text without intelligence.

PENGASSAN is fighting for the rights of its workers. It's not for ordinary Nigerians. It's not for poor people. It's not for filling stations.

What is so difficult to understand here?[/color]

Anniwil:
My brother,our sentimentalism in Nigeria is our bane,soon someone will use the tribal leg and spit
I admire u bro and this struggle.It’s in sync with what Trade unionism should stand for but alas the rest always will be sentimental and expressly want to remain oppressed

[color=royalblue]There's is no Nigerian worker that will tell you to hate a Union. No employer will love you more than your Union.

Through Unions, workers have had a better share and environment, even though more can be done.

Anybody telling anyone to scrap Unions, is either ignorant, or was created without a brain.[/color]

P1PrinceKT:
Ndume was saying where were Pengassan when Subsidy was removed? Simply he is telling Nigerians that Pengassan did not fight for them when Subsidy was removed. The dude was ignorant that Pengassan is a Workers Union which has no role in deciding what price a government should sell its products.

[color=royalblue]It's pathetic, Chief.

See them blaming a Worker's Union for low sperm count and drug abuse.

Nigerians have serious issues with understanding [/color]

afrodoc2:
They are both from Oyo State. More likely Taye Currency's son pulled some strings for his old man or that the organizers just miscalculated.

[color=royalblue]Looks more like the string oh[/color]

BlueRayDick:
This is another angle to look at it. Son pulls strings for his P-man, baba decides to use the strings to strangle his own musical career unprovoked.

Almunjid:
Was the union established by Dangote's workers or by external influences? The situation mirrors that of ASUU, which once claimed to be fighting for the rights of Nigerian students, similar to these external forces professing to advocate for Dangote's workers.

Peace!

[color=royalblue]Please nau. Stop embarrassing yourself

ASUU means Academic Staff Union of Universities. Show me where Students are part of ASUU?

Stop please. Go and understand what Worker's Union is, and then come back and edit your comment.[/color]

P1PrinceKT:
Pengassan has no right or power to make Nigeria refineries work, these are a result of bad governmental policies and corruption in the land. PENGASSAN is simply a workers Union just like any other Union. It doesn't have power to build refineries.

[color=royalblue]You are wasting your time.

They cannot even educate themselves on what a Workers Union is about.

Imagine blaming a worker's Union for your economy. PENGASSAN is the reason why refineries are not working?

Tufiakwa. What kind of ignorance are we breathing in, abeg?
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BlueRayDick:


Son of the soil don sing weyrey song for king's coronation. He don press Ctrl + spoil.

[color=royalblue] Maybe he was overly excited

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GrammarNazi1:
Saheed Osupa, who would have done better, is from Oyo state, too.

[color=royalblue]Ohh. Okay.

Then this is on the organizers.[/color]

Almunjid:
Your right. Just as ASUU is protecting students while extending their graduation by two to three years. PENGASSAN is presenting itself as advocating for workers' rights, whereas their real motivation is frustration over Dangote's efforts to combat corruption, which has closed off avenues for their own dishonest practices.

Peace!

[color=royalblue]Is ASUU as a Union formed by students?

Is it to protect Nigerian students?

Who really cursed us with ignorance?[/color]

NOETHNICITY:
No worries
By the time Dangote quietly relocate his company to Ghana una go shout labor laws tire

You think it’s too difficult to decouple from Nigeria?
Many companies like Michelin did it in the past.

[color=royalblue]Did Michelin leave because of Union, or because of your economy?

Learn to look at issues without bias.

Show me where Shell, Seplat, 11Plc, Chevron staff are complaining about their Union. These guys are bigger than Dangote in the Oil game

But because we deliberately and intentionally choose to be ignorant everyday, we cannot see clearly

If the Ghanaian government has Union as part of its country laws, will Dangote form it or not? You already know the answer oh.

But let us kill Union for Workers, so Dangote can be the Savior of mankind.[/color]

BlueRayDick:
That is what happens when they give someone like that such platforms. The organizers should've invited someone as musically versatile and cerebral as Saheed Osupa instead of Taye Currency. Currency is not worthy of the platform and he confirmed it with his yeye performance.

Imagine singing "weyrey la fin wo weyrey " at the coronation of a first class Oba like the Olubadan. Something that even hip-Hop and younger artistes like Olamide , Wizkid, Davido, etc won't do. And I learnt that Currency's son is in the Oyo state House of assembly as chief whip or something like that. Man wey get piking wey don old reach that level come dey sing rubbish for the Coronation ceremony.

[color=royalblue] Another reason may be because of the state they both came from.

Taye is from Oyo state (I'm guessing). Maybe Saheed is not.

So they decided to give it to the Son of the soil. But the organizers should have let him know what was expected.[/color]

mployer:
I should care about you for a job you begged to apply for?

If you are not cool with it, resign.

Pengassen can flex muscle with foreign and government owned companies not with a private Nigerian owned company.

[color=royalblue]You have typed so much, without addressing the fact that the struggle is within the confines of the Labour law of the Federal Republic of Nigeria.

Nobody needs you to care. Just go and erase that section and subsection from the Constitution [/color]

lionshare:
You said it’s the law, right? Fine—then PENGASSAN should take the matter to court instead of constituting a public nuisance. Or are they afraid of the legal outcome? There are teachers in private schools and universities across the country earning ridiculously low salaries, yet NUT and ASUU remain silent—because those are private institutions. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

[color=royalblue]You see why I said you're ignorant

PENGASSAN shut Dangote refinery because over 80% of his staff have joined the Union, and he sacked them.

You don't even know the story, you just jumped online to talk. PENGASSAN is already fighting for the rights of its members in Dangote refinery [/color]

aribisala0:
PENGASSAN IS NEARLY 50 YEARS OLD
IT COEXISTED with MOBIL, SHELL CHEVRON etc
Are they not private?
Are they not bigger THAN DANGOTE.?

Why does Dangote believe he can kill PENGASSAN

[color=royalblue] Because over 100 million Nigerians are enabling him online

Just scroll through this thread, and you'll see why Nigeria will retrogress by 50 years again

See the people that wants the government, and foreign investors to take them seriously [/color]

chidiokay:
In sane climes i agree, But in Naija context or Naija Union thats a big No

its in Nigerians Unions will go behind collect brown envelope and throw the people under the box ...

Bring a meter check Nigerians vote of confidence in Union ... its relatively low

Dangote cement is not under union and today they are one of the most efficient producers of cement and no some can dare say Dangote cement is bad or poor
i went to a private university in Nigeria ... the working condition and renumeration of my lecturers not under ASUU is beta .. standard offices n prompt payment visit unilag n see the state of lecturers offices

Union is only is in an environment hosted by bad irresponsible n bad leaders Buh with a responsible Mgt i swear Union dues is just a waste of money

Dangote have lasted 20yrs in business that not the kind of devil you warn or caution us about e no owe cement workers salary naa refinery workers e go start to maltreat, and send to pick beans

[color=royalblue]Your comment is the exact reason why we have hundreds of Chinese & Lebanese companies suffering Nigerians in their companies

No wonder nobody takes us seriously, and I have always had the opinion that Nigerians themselves do not even know what they want

Shell and Chevron are 10 times bigger than Dangote. They have not folded up. They have not run down. They are under PENGASSAN.

But PENGASSAN will kill Dangote refinery in December if he joins them today; even though your Nigerian law compels him to do so.

Brilliant submission, my guy[/color]

mployer:
Protect the staff so they can sink the refinery?

If you don't feel protected please resign. It's that simple.

[color=royalblue]So how come Chevron, 11plc, Seplat, Shell have not been sunk?

You already know the answer, but let me trust you to keep swimming against the tides of ignorance [/color]

mployer:
When the union stage unnecessary strike or demand exorbitant wages, the pump price will remain the same?

[color=royalblue]Since this year that you have bought fuel at various rates, how many was caused by strikes?

Dangote will soon stop selling fuel in naira. You haven't dragged him on that oh. You are not concerned

But you care less that workers shouldn't have a Union, so you can buy fuel for 10 naira less.

Welldone oh.[/color]

lionshare:
Protecting who, exactly? If Dangote decides to shut down the refinery, would the unions even have a say? Both sides should find a way to accommodate each other, but let’s be honest—Dangote holds both the knife and the cake in this situation.

[color=royalblue]Your comment reeks of serious, gross ignorance

The Nigerian labour law compels him to have a Union. You think PENGASSAN woke up and picked on him?

All Oil companies in Nigeria have a Union for its staff. It's a Labour law in Nigeria. PENGASSAN did not write the law. Nigeria did.

So he either forms that Union, or follows your advice to sell it off. Shebi he has yam and knife?[/color]

P1PrinceKT:
I saw a senator protecting Dangote on this dispute with out even waiting patiently to understand the question asked by the journalist. If our law makers whose their major role is to make these laws do not understand the laws of the Constitution how do you think an Average Nigerian to understand it?

[color=royalblue]I really don't know how we got this low, as a country.

It is even how they think that a Union will affect the price of petrol? What has a Union got to do with Dangote, selling at 865?

People are simply asking him to follow what the Constitution says about protecting the right of worker, but only reading through this thread sef dey shame me.[/color]

P1PrinceKT:
Pengassan is protecting Nigerian workers fired by Dangote and replaced them by Indians Which you might have been among them. Unfortunately you keep blind eye to the evil because it's not your concern.

[color=royalblue]A large number of Nigerians are very ignorant.

Someone is protecting the staff, they are complaining.

I never see these kind of daftness before.[/color]

[color=royalblue] Anyone who has worked in a corporate environment will know that your employer cannot love you more than your Union.

The Nigerian law clearly stipulates workers to have a Union when their strength exceeds a minimum number

But because Dangote is the first man, and first oil company to exist on earth, we should burn the Nigerian constitution.

No wonder Chinese and Indian firms don't take us seriously. Anything goes in Nigeria.[/color]

Ellexy:
Anybody looking to travel especially to the Northern and Middle Belt areas need to count the cost. It wasn't funny at all.

[color=royalblue]And I dey go tomorrow night

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Amoto94:
The insecurity around that axis is not unconnected to activities of illegal miners there is a scramble for gold. The authorities know what is going on in the region, I got wind of an information that illegal miners set camp in one of the villages in Kogi West area the chiefs are active collaborators.

[color=royalblue]This is very possible. Another modus operandi of the Chinese, even though this might not be connected sha.

Instigate violence. Chase the community away, and then mine.

This is after all security and local authority have been settled beautifully [/color]