morpheus101: Outrageous yes, but the aftermath of post-cold war alignments played a heavy role in the initial expulsion of Nigerians out of Ghana and the subsequent event was nothing more than retaliatory in nature.
morpheus101: You'd have to point to where in my statement I imply justification. An underlining reason for an action and its justification are two different things as the latter reflects some sort of condonement of that action. Read slowly next time around.
Outrageous yes, but the aftermath of post-cold war alignments played a heavy role in the initial expulsion of Nigerians out of Ghana and the subsequent event was nothing more than retaliatory in nature.
Wena re-read what you just wrote and you'll see where justification was implied.
morpheus101: I see where you are going with this, you are trying to regurgitate the point that if the Nigerians or Ghanaians could expel each other's citizens, then how can either one of them plead the moral high ground when it comes to SA pushing for the same. This would be sound except for the below reasons:
1. The premise above supports the idea that because an evidential "bad policy" was implemented by one country then it is therefore permmissable or at the least understandable if another country engages is such an act.
2. Contextually speaking the "Ghana must go" saga by Nigerians and the enforcement of the "Aliens compliance order" by Ghana had deeper political undertones that just the "rumblings of the poor class" of either country. We can expansiate on that if necessary.
3. The economic integration of Ecowas in relation to that of SADC is a testament to the realization of these "archaic" policies that were a reaction and result of that era.
Unbelievable! so because there were deeper political undertones then it justifies the action? Shouldn't it had been more outrageous that the top brass are the main perpetrators in contravening the very same pan African ideology they had sworn to uphold?
morpheus101: If I am understanding the first question being asked, then the answer would be the ideology and concept of pan Africanism precedes the "Ghana must go" saga.
If I understand the second question being asked, then I would respond that the ideology of pan Africanism continues to be a defining political and economic policy practiced in relation to other African states.
If the mentioning of the incidents of mutual expulsions of both Nigerian and Ghanaian citizens from each other's countries is being cited as an example of the non-existence of this political and economic policy between both countries, then you would have to expanciate and clarify what you are insinuating?
Mutual expulsion? Weren't you supposed to be the "big brother" that would provide sanity to chaos?
LeSudAfricaine: Ah typical, Nigerians thinkng they're special. South African women date whoever they want, form Pakistanis, Coloureds, Indians, whites, purples, yellows, etc, and they are likely to date men from the SADEC bloc(Swaziland, Botswana, lesotho, Zim, etc) first before they even bother with Nigerians. what makes you think you're special?
They always take this route whenever a debate about serious stuff becomes too much for them to handle.I think they believe it's the only punchline they can use on us.
morpheus101: I understand that you youngies over there have generally dismissed the ideaologies of pan africanism that were more familiar to your fore-fathers and have embraced a neo-nationalist stance guised in "patriotism", hence the ignorant comment above.
I am not surprised at all, wena!
Interesting! So which one precedes the other? "Ghana must go" or "the ideology of pan Africanism"? I really would like to know which one between us was the first to dismiss the said ideology.
43Ronin: Yeah, but that's because if not for nigeria & AU, the boers would have still been whooping ur lazy negro backs in their mines. Its not our fault your women love Nigerian men, be honest is it our fault
You were dropped on your head by your mother.Your uneducated comment proved beyond any shred of doubt.
morpheus101: They have a historicity of being xenophobic to blacks in general. What's your people's excuse?
And you decided not to challenge the ban because of history yet toothless dustheads at AU would have been moving at a speed of light with endless press conferences demanding an apology if it was South Africa...yah neh
morpheus101: Yes, because when it becomes complicated, the brain checks out or simplifies the matter.
let me give you more stuff to run away from as well. When an inference is made on data it requires a certain percentage of a confidence interval required to determine if the sample sizes used vary and are ubiquitous enough to lend credence to that statistical inference.
I've been meaning to ask - how's the UAE ban treating ya? Why are these Arabs being xenophobic to "hardworking" jooz from Nigeria?
morpheus101: Point 1. Who is trying to impress you. Already know you have deficiences, this is for all on nairaland to interpret.
Point 2. Just say you want me to speak in lay man's terms and I will, no need to digress. If you count a random sample of any 10 Nigerians this means that 9 of them are definitively poor, no?
Point 3. If we are to interpret these statistical extrapolations as you do, this would amount to the same statistical interpretation that 1 in 5 South Africans is HIV positive. If you count 5 of your friends (random sample) this would "definitively" mean at least 1 of them was HIV positive, shame?
morpheus101: When one thinks that the mastery of "statistical extrapolations and inferences" on raw metadata is a definitive approach to logical arguements then one's bantu education has truly failed him.
Only a buffon would believe that an "extrapolative inference" of a population size like Nigeria with over 100 million people would indeed have an illiteracy level of 90%. You really believe that for every 10 Nigerians you have ever met, 9 of them are poor.
Try testing that theory out in your country, see if it holds.
Not impressed by the pseudo-intellectualism.You trying way too hard to not come off as one of the dummies,but we both know better don't we!
morpheus101: illiteracy has nothing to do with the level of intelligence in groups of people. It only points to the lack of access to "information" that would propel them out of impoverished states within a hierarchial construct required to advance up pyramid of needs. That's why Nigera
Correlation does not imply causation you illiterate numskull.
Poverty rate sitting above 90% but Morphy thinks all these desperate mental gymnastics are going to change anything.
morpheus101: [s]THe accolades are extremely important because it says that the people from these countries are naturally endowed with brilliance irrespective of geographical constraints that have been thrust upon them as result of neo colonialism and the manifest destiny doctrine of Western civilization.[/s]
omonnakoda: A dog is a dog wherever it lives? Stop boasting about your zoo and zookeeper Tell us what is the prevalence of HIV among Black South Africans That should make you sober. You have nothing to boast about
Boast about what is in your head? Oh
NOTHING to report empty head
All you know is entitlement , drugs , alcohol and rape
And you argue just like a barefoot savage bandit from the northern part of your country.Imagine someone thinking they can have a productive debate with you... couldn't be me.
omonnakoda: Change of moniker Countries positions change all the time China was hell on earth 60 years ago 1958-61. If you had any education you would know
What matters is the quality of your people
The black South African likes to boast about a South Africa where he is a slave and at the bottom of the economic pile
Boast about South Africa all day long
The question that won't go away is what is the contribution of Zulus and other black South Africans?
You boast about a country where proportionally for every black doctor or professor there are 32 who are non black
That means black South Africans are liabilities
When you see Nigerians in South Africa they are not there to compete with Zulus for jobs but with the Boer
You really love bringing China into every argument.This Makoko sewer rat doesn't even know that Boers aren't that educated,they definitely don't outperform black South Africans academically.So you jappa all the way from your desert wasteland to compete with mediocre? Your skull is too thick to realise the only thing you will always excell in are the crimes you're internationally known for (no need to name them because everybody already know)
And isn't your country's illiteracy rate sitting over 60% ? You can't even read and write your own names.
BigIyanga: Got better counter? Why arent black SAs outshining and outworking other Africans in EU, US, Canadians? I havent met any black SA doctor/IT programmers in UK, US, Canada.. Are you saying that SA pays better those countries? You guys dont have intellectual rigor and tenacity to compete at the global stage? Amazon AWS in Cape Town hires more Naija developers and engineers than black SAs
And poverty capital of the world still you remain.So tell me,of what importance are these accolades to you if your country is still one of the worst places to live on Earth?
BigIyanga: 95 of lands in Naija are owned by Indigenous Nigerians. 90% of 20m houses in RSA are owned by whites and Asians 95% of 50m houses in Naija are owned by Nigerians. 95% of banks/insurance and finance companies in Naija are owned by Nigerians. Nigerians own 100% of Shoprite in Naija. Nigerians own majority of MTN in Naija Nigerians have more millionaires and billionaires than black RSA… So how are you guys better?? Make it make sense for me.
"As free market capitalism and technology expands The third world's fertile soil becomes a desert wasteland So it takes bands to, demand the, government provide answers When Lady Liberty has me Bewitched like Samantha And poverty is one of the most malignant forms of cancer" _ Last Emperor
swaggerjack: Occult grandmaster that captured the richest state in Nigeria and collects 10% of their monthly tax revenue. This can't even in South Africa, not even the Gupta's were able to pull this off.
Starzo: You type come let's go like I'll degrade myself to compete with a Bantu pig...I put on you
Bbnaija has been shot in Lagos for years until you south Africans came to beg Nigerians to allow u guys merge with us cuz nobody gave a rats ass about a show comprising of only useless Bantu pigs
Nigeria was the first African country to successfully contain and get rid of ebola after it was brought into the country by an American.It didn't last up to two weeks in the country
Money south African countries make and repatriate to south Africa accounts for atleast 15% of your annual budget
The money south African companies make in six months in Nigeria, they won't come close to it in 2yrs in south Africa
Even DStv relocated it's headquarters from South Africa with supposedly stable electricity to Nigeria with unreliable power. That shows you the difference in appeal and marketability be the two countries
The money repatriated as profit from SA companies back home is what is used to feed poor lazy useless bantus like you.
When I say u are ignorant you think I'm insulting bit I'm actually stating facts.
You should be grateful to nigerians for feeding you through MTN,DStv and many others rather than hating on your benefactors
We're not your mates
Says he won't compete but proceeds to the usual empty chest-beating.
The last bbnaija was shot in SA.You know very well you can't run anything without us.Dude we South Africans don't give a damn who watch what we do.The last bbmzansi was not even available to neighbouring countries because we don't give a shìt.
And you think you deserve a credit for consuming South African products? Doesn't that sound like a fair trade? You pay and we render the services? You don't see us pounding our chests every time we purchase coca cola,Mc Donald's and Burger King (American) and bragging about how American economy will fall if we stopped buying these products.Ya'll are just wired differently with the entitlement mindset...jeez
DsTV headquarters are still in Randburg so I don't know what the hell you talking about.No! It shows how exploitable you really are.
How can Makoko sewer rats feed South Africans when in reality they are the poverty capital of the world.Dude look at the hygiene of a South African and look at yours and you will know why it's impossible for you to feed us .
BigIyanga: Pound for pound.. Nigerians are out Black RSA league. Recently concluded Commonwealth Games..Nigerians won and black SA were MIA on medal table. In literature, let see black SA folks that can match up to Achebe, Soyinka, Adichie, Solarin etal In Music, global music African exs are based in SA.. yet talent hubs from Maroko/Ajegunle are feeding them$$. Show us ur best vs our best like Wizkid, Davido, Burna, Tiwa, Tems etal. In sports, show us ur best vs our best like Okocha, Kanu, Usman, Adesanya etal. In Business, show us ur best vs Dangote, Adenuga, Otedola. In IT, show us your best vs Flutterwave, Paystack, Konga, etc Naija is not your competition in terms of talent, drive, and execution
And the social and economic trajectory of your country remains dire even with these brilliant minds you have? Why should I be impressed again?
Starzo: The same nigeria that saved your dumb asses from obliteration during apartheid
A Nigerian Artist recently came to your country and pulled crowd of almost 100k
The same nigeria that your south African DJs are thanking everyday for taking you local amapiano sound global
The same nigeria that your worthless bbmsanzi or whatever is trying to merge with the popular most followed bb naija in other to tap from our popularity and gain relevance.
I said it before, ignorance and envy is a genetic trait of an average south African Bantu pig
Oh you wanna enter the dungeon of violence with me? Let's goooo
- Save yourself from living under $1 per day. - Save yourself from being obliterated by ebola (AKA West African Virus) - Save yourself from 90% poverty rate in your useless country. - Save yourself from being the poverty and open defecation capital of the world. - Save yourself from being too useless to the point of importing things like toothpicks - Save yourself from being banned by Arab countries.
And it means so much to you because it means we approved.Thank you for admitting that being validated by South Africans means the world to you.It's the least we could do for you for worshipping our Nasty C and all those old school artists who ruled your radio stations in the past and had your uncles dancing with a cup of garri on their heads.
Major League DJs (SA born and raised) are the ones who took Amapiano international with their balcony sessions they have been doing in SA and around the world.You are just desperately looking for a piece of pie in something you didn't create,or you are hurt because we made Afrobeat completely irrelevant and now you are trying to jump on the Amapiano train before it leaves you behind? Y'all really hate being irrelevant.
Why would SA want to merge with bbnaija? Last I check y'all can't even run it without us getting involved.We basically own your ass because you can't even shoot it in your own country.No DsTV,no bbnaija,so who's likely going to beg here?
And you are the one I would Envy? A skull miner who believes money can be made from selling human parts? Hahaha.
Starzo: So 'coon' mentality' is now the new cause of Nigeria success international.
That's according to a degenerate Bantu pig who is banned from visiting a town(orana) in his own country cuz of his black skin
Hatred,envy and stupidity runs in your veins
It's a genetic trait of inferior black SANs
Relax! you makoko sewer rat, it's just a political position which you obtain by hugging the white man's testicles.Your "intelligence" had nothing to do with it.
Lol who told you that there's even a desire in my heart to go to Orania? When SA has far more better places than that? the hurt really got you clutching on every straw.
Envy? The problem with you is you don't even realize how far on the back burner you really as far as South Africans are concerned.The only time we acknowledge your insignificant existence is whenever your names come on our television screens during news headlines about human trafficking,and drug busts.Otherwise no one will miss you if you disappeared.
CheapHomes1: who is the owner of Gatwick Airport in the UK?
who are the two africans that own clubs in portugal?
who are the 8 africans that won legislative seats in the just concluded US mid term elections?
who is the deputy secretary general of the UN?
And you never ask yourself why they put Nigerians in those seats even though there are millions of African Americans who rightly qualify? It's the Nigerian koon mentality that got them there.They safeguard the interests of white supremacists.