More stupidity from your Dudula. Here are a group of them at a factory which has confirmed that "only 8" of the foreigners are all documented and legally in the country now your people have pivoted to no no no its "critical" or "scarce" skills. Then they pivot again and say a "foreigner" cannot own land or property in SA when a host of them are in the cape buying up land.
So a person who has been granted permanent residence or work permits who are legally in the country must now leave because "South Africans" are not employed so says the Vigilantes
When it walks like and talks like and quacks like then its what it is "XENOPHOBIA"!!
morpheus101: He was hoping they would do that as it ups his profile as his name is flashed across Tv screens so why should I be happy. The powers that be are gonna take this time to try to talk some grown up sense into the lad behind closed doors but alas he wiill not listen and as the saying goes hard heads will always get it.
#SAYNOTOXENOPHOBIA!!
He didn't need to be arrested to up his profile.Malema put a battery on drug dealer's back to have Lux arrested after they raided his house with police.
Rock had to take one for the whole world.The slap carries the anger from all those entanglement jokes everybody was making,carries anger from all those times his wife's eyes swelled up in tears whenever 2pac's name would come up.
morpheus101: First you give the stats of about 800,000 immigrants of Nigerians in SA, then you also state that a great number of them want to relocate to SA. What constitutes " a great number of Nigerians" out of 200 million people cause you might as well have said a great number of Nigerians want to relocate out of Nigeria to anywhere in the world and wouldn't mean diddly without context.
PS when you see a large group of Nigerians concentrated in a small space in Hilbrow I can see how your perception becomes skewed.
Olodo!
Hip hip hooray!!! They arrested the leader of Operation Dudula, surely there must be peace in your mud house basement right now.
Bifwoli: There you go again . Your assumption wrongly presupposes that only SA receives Visa applications from other Africans seeking entry aside UK & USA.
There's other African nations with immigrant Visa applications from sister African nations and a healthy dose of immigrants too.These people wouldn't move there if they "aren't viable" as your statement above implies.
No,I'm completely aware that there's no African country without immigrants but let's be honest,no African country has suffered a huge influx of immigrants (legal & otherwise) the way SA has.
morpheus101: In my past life I did a lot of research on personalities and their movements so please don't think he is anything special, however did you not say you support Dudula, how is it you support an organization you know nothing about.
The young man is passionate but in my opinion there is a reason Generals are sent out to war and not newly ranked Captains.
I never said he was special but I think it's funny how he got y'all in a frenzy, it's quite satisfying I must say.
nwadikeokey11: All my life up until this very moment i have never thought, wish, plan or desire to visit South Africa, i mean visit not to talk of live there. Meanwhile i have visited several other African countries but South Africa has never been attractive to me, not trying to talk down on the country, No, because which ever way we look at it, South Africa is still far more develop than Nigeria and every other African country, but the truth is that for me i don't just want to visit that country, at least for now, wouldn't know about the future. I also know so many people from Nigeria who traveled to South Africa with the intention of settling down there but returned back to Nigeria after just few months of living in South Africa and their reason was that they prefer Nigeria to South Africa. So i wouldn't know where you got the idea that most Nigerians wishes and dreams of living in South Africa.
You are personalising this thing.I'm speaking in a general sense when I say the number of Nigerians that want to live in South Africa is not as insignificant as you guys are trying to suggest.There's even a thread about South African Visa application on this very forum.The guy that quoted me said Mauritius is better than South Africa yet the number of Nigerians in Mauritius is 10x less than the Nigerian population in South Africa,which doesn't even make sense.
GeneralDae: How many Nigerians are in South Africa actually?? Are they up to 50,000? I don't think they are up to 50,000 and 50,000 is not even up to 0.05 % of the Nigerian population.
So no, Nigerians are not dying to go to South Africa. All my life, I never knew any Nigerian who wanted to go live in South Africa.
I was talking about other Africans as well.The number of Nigerians in SA was 800 000 last I checked, it's probably more than that now.
I never said every Nigerian wants to live in South Africa,however,a great number of them want to.Which country in Africa do you think will be a viable bet when the UK & US ain't accepting your Visa applications?
Bifwoli: Far better in all spheres...quality of life,far less inequality,personal safety, public sanitation, employment,better business environment ,HDI scores,life expectancy ....
Yet South Africa is still a preferred destination for Africans that seek greener pasture.What I gather here is that SA is opposite of what you highlighted here,so why are you guys still the subject of immigration crises in SA? Please help me understand this because I find it incredible and intriguing that you guys fly past these wonderful countries and land in a relatively unstable one.
morpheus101: The camouflage wearing wannabe soldier Mr Lux is spouting it all the time on the news, you can tell the boy loves the camera too, shouldn't be hard for you to gather and post here.
You seem to follow him way more than I do so why don't you do the honour and bless us with those clips?
morpheus101: Please state the views of the dudula movement and let us juxtapose to what these gentlemen just enumerated and lets see of the two who sounds more intelligent at articulating an issue.
Mr clips poster is asking me to find clips of Dudula views so we can see who's intelligent? I don't have that kind of time.
morpheus101: Who is taking that opportunity or privilege away from you. What am I doing personally to stop it. Don't misconstrue criticism of movements I deem nonsensical with constraining someone from doing it.
You are free to comment on my criticism or free to ignore but the cry baby over-entitled nature of the average Saffer unfortunately compels you to comment.
Last I checked you are the one who called my name out.Either you wanted me to seriously debate the issue or you did out of the need to satisfy your unquenchable thirst for my attention.
Opinions are going to differ,this doesn't mean opposing views are less intelligent.If we going to call people intelligent just because they said what we wanted to hear then what does that lead this world to? Lol
morpheus101: I currently work with and support movements tied to similar ideas proposed and preached by Dele Farotimi. If you listen to his works then you should understand my stance as far as Nigeria is concerned.
Good then.While you do that for your country, Nigeria,can you also afford us South Africans the same opportunity and privilege to support any movement of our choosing that we feel represent the best interests of our people at heart?
morpheus101: Yes, they are citizens alright but their "nationality" does not trump their allegiance and connection to the dominant White monopoly capitalist system that controls a majority of the economics of the world ergo they continue to be "beneficiaries" of this global system and stunch supporters of it even at your countries detriment. This is the reason they seamlessly move in and out of nationalities globally more so than you.
I am not a Nigerian national if that is your above point, I am a "subject" to the geographical expression know as Nigeria established by the Royal Niger company and which persists today under an oil syndicate supported by Western powers.
Point 1. I would only be envious of something that I have never partaken off. What do you think is an activity that exists in your country today that has been absent from my life so far on this earth. Don't mistake me for a village boy.
Point 2. About your point on present development versus past development well that point is like claiming that your country now has more black police officers in service versus under the apatheid regime and ergo it is better off in terms of crime prevention now in the present versus the past. Marinate on that a bit.
Expansion of road networks- Most African countries actively do this, how does this impact the economic activity in your country. Do you see and increase in SME or businesses that benefit from this?
Investment in education- What beneficial outcome has this produced over the past 10 years. Do you have more employed Youth who are actively working with their degree's, What is the increase in SME's as a result of this?
Built world class sport facilities- Where is the dividend on this, Who are your superior world class athletes( Black and colored only. I don't count Whites, they have had a head start)in comparison to other African countries. In terms of your Football leagues, we have leagues all across the continent of Africa that produce and pay athletes as well, some developed others not so much but they exist. What are the comparative advantages between the leagues in SA and say Senegal?
So what is the solution to all these problems? I mean you can't moan forever,you gotta have something up your sleeves for these "evil imperialists,if not, don't waste our time,bitter Sambisa forest
morpheus101: I am glad at least one party in SA are standing on their principles even if its unfavorable to them politically. History will vindicate them.
if this idiots from Operation dudula had clarified right from the start what they stood for then it would have been clear but they keep shifting goal posts, today its illegal foreigners, tomorrow its migrant workers, next day its legal foreigners now its a member of the EFF
Is the above admitting then that SA is dominated by Europeans and..."South African" aka European companies?
Point 1. We have the rights as humans to discourse about anything we feel fit to talk about, if it hurt your feelings, get over it.
Point 2. All your government achieved in 20 years was creating a buffer Bourgeoisie class of black politicians under the control and influence of White monopoly capital. What ever gains in infrastructure you continue to boast are all residual effects of the same White Monopoly capital that controls the system.
No problem there.
White South Africans are citizens.Your country is dominated by whole bunch of foreigners from Europe,furthermore,most white South Africans are middle income earners like the rest of us.You and I aren't in the same situation.
No hurt feelings this side lol,I don't think you realise how lame you are.You can partake in whatever discourse but you must also beware of the fact that no one takes you seriously,learn how to take control of your oil then we'll talk later.
Your point no.2 is just the envious tirade I have heard many times before coming out many Nigerians' mouths.It's comical at this point considering the fact that South Africa is actually more developed now that it was at any point in the past.
- expansion of road network. - Investing in education than any country in Africa. - built world class sport facilities
morpheus101: Ahhh keep quiet Mfethu, when the fighting begins you will be under your mattress in your one room shack hiding out until it is over together with your fake military camouflage wearing Nhanhla Lux who's generation has only seen blood on TV.
morpheus101: Until those asses start to fight back and there's blood on the streets then you will run crying to your government how the kwerekwere's have the audacity to molest you in your own country, but then again people who have pent up anger, have known nothing more than street agitations and are looking for attention from their government are always looking for a fight and I dare say they will eventually get it.
Let's hope Dudula manages to thread that fine line btw Vigilantism and anarchy.
We stand watching.
Tell them to bring it on lol .. that's all I'm going to say.
morpheus101: There is no credit that is due to a country that is controlled by White monopoly capital and who's JSE is majority owned by whites at 97% to 2.5 % black owned and who's land is 75% white owned and who's population are xenophobic, prove me wrong. We are waiting.
Please everybody should stop advising people to relocate to South Africa BEFORE THEY DUBULA YOU THERE!
It's okay if you don't want to give credit where it's due,but duly note that Nigeria is not any better as large chunks of your economic turfs are dominated by Europeans and South African companies.How is it that a country produces oil but the petrol pumps are always dry anywhere in the country are always dry.No Nigerian has a right to talk about economic disparities of any country in Africa,especially not South Africa whose government achieved so much in less than 20 years what other failed African states couldn't in 60 to 70 years of independence.
morpheus101: Hey Jaceblaze, TjoBathong your people are really working hard neh, The Vigilantes are removing all the drug dealers from the streets and deporting/Banishing them out of town.