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Image123:
Beautiful. You should not even be in the religion section in the first place. For example, i will not go to the Islam or celeb or games section, i have no business there. You don't believe in religion or in God, but you come to talk about God and religion, and you expect people to talk to you about God and religion without using their religion, books and God? Who does that except you guys?

No problem. But then why do you christians do evangelism and harass folks on the road? You wake hard working folks early in the morning with your morning call, assault us on the road with fliers, even sticking them on our car doors and windshields. Then finally block thoroughfare roads for us? Did we ask for you to preach to us?

Thorrn:
I know right? Accept my sympathy. Living without a brain must be hell for you .



Nobody with respect for facts and reality will make bald faced assertions without backing them up. Except if he's a drunkard. And you do sound like a drunkard.



And you continue to tell unfounded lies. Keep it up. You're the one damaging your reputation on this site if you don't know .

One worries about his/her reputation if there's one, isn't it? If there's no reputation…

LordReed:
I don't do people's homework for them, do your own homework. Meanwhile since this is your stance why do YOU ask people to supply evidence, why don't you go search for it yourself or you just enjoy employing double standards aka hypocrisy? LoLz.

That is a particular trait I have noticed in christians, both online and offline. This Aemmyjah particularly loves the tactics which he employs whenever we tangle. Its just a way of shrugging off responsibility when they face a brick wall: A get-out-of-jail card. Maybe its written in their Babble somewhere, we don't know

Aemmyjah:
Bunch of miscreants
What are you doing in the religious section on nairaland?
Again, your religion or philosophy leaves your life as meaningless and purposeless and useless
You should be conversing with animals

Ok. If you say so

Aemmyjah:
1. It is my father that digest my food na

2. Gyne doctor or gyne... You and that gyne are fools.

1. Exact stupid answer you give when you are blank. Idiota
2. Ok

Aemmyjah:
1. Bible says earth is a circle. You yourself argued that circle is not a shape. Now you say it's flat. Ignorant you

2. Stupid analogy

3. Then why do you counter us when you have nothing to offer. Just remain in silence or keep making noise

4. Why do you bring evolution with religion? Is evolution a scientific philosophy? Perhaps, cos their teachers told them not to question it or questioning it will make them unintelligent

1. Simple question… is the earth circular or spherical?
2. Of course it's stupid to you because you can't reason logically
3. Why do you counter Muslims, Hinduists etc that said their favorite gods created the world? Why didn’t you accept their stories?
4. I didn't bring evolution here, you did. Evolution is a scientific fact, not philosophy. You don't question facts, do you?

Rutherford2019:
I got diagnosed in early September this year
Unfortunately for me,it's almost too late

Like most Nigerians, we don't care about our health. You see a typical Nigerian boasting "I haven’t been to the hospital for 100 years. I've don't get sick". Those are the ones that drop dead from fatal complications of diabetes like DKA. And then their neighbors would go, "Chai. See dat man oh. Him no dey sick. Never see am for hospital before. Dem Village People don kee am". Also you see these people developing wounds in the foot and they'll be jumping from one shaman to the other, one pastor to the other, saying 'dem don march poison'. Meanwhile its plain old diabetic foot ulcer, which is a complication of the diabetes mellitus. And that wound would never heal til the blood sugar is controlled with drugs. By the time most of these people show up in the hospital, its too late. They end up with gangrene of the limbs with either ray amputation of the toe, below knee amputations or even worse fulminant sepsis which is their death knell. And this scenario cuts across the strata of the society. The poor, rich, literate, illiterate etc
Nigerians have a death wish

telim:
Slow killer. Diabetes is worse than HIV and very difficult to manage. Doctors will always say don't eat this don't eat that. What do you want them to eat?

These days we advocate moderation. Cut down on high calorie and high carb diets. The brain uses mostly glucose unlike other organs, so you gotta give it something to bite on(pun intended)

Dpharmacist:
World Diabetes Day provides an opportunity to raise awareness of diabetes as a global public health issue and what needs to be done, collectively and individually, for better prevention, diagnosis and management of the condition.

It highlight the shooting prevalence of diabetes and its impact and educate people about the preventive tips of diabetes.

Diabetes is a disorder in which the body fails to process and utilize the glucose which is produced from the food we consume.

There are mainly three types of diabetes mellitus - Type 1 diabetes, Type 2 diabetes and Gestational diabetes. Glucose is the leading source of energy in the body.

Inefficient assimilation of glucose can hamper one's day-to-day activity, and unmanaged diabetes could lead to fatal complications like cardiovascular issues, nerve damage, kidney damage, foot damage, skin infections, erectile dysfunction, depression, dental problems and more.

1 in 10 adults worldwide have diabetes. Over 90% have type 2 diabetes. Close to half are not yet diagnosed.

In many cases, type 2 diabetes and its complications can be delayed or prevented by adopting and maintaining healthy habits. When not detected and treated early, diabetes can lead to serious and potentially life-threatening complications.

For people at risk of type 2 diabetes, knowing your risk and what to do is important to support prevention, early diagnosis and timely treatment.

For people living with diabetes, awareness and access to the correct information and best available medicines and tools to support self-care is vital to delay or prevent complications.

For healthcare professionals, access to sufficient training and resources is required to detect complications early and provide the best possible care.

The theme for World Diabetes Day Today is Access to Diabetes Care.

Millions of people with diabetes around the world do not have access to diabetes care.
People with diabetes require ongoing care and support to manage their condition and avoid complications.

We cannot wait any longer for:

1. Medicine, technologies, support and care to be made available to all people with diabetes that require them.

2. Governments to increase investment in diabetes care and prevention.

In 2023, the campaign will focus on the importance of knowing your risk of type 2 diabetes to help delay or prevent the condition and highlighting the impact of diabetes-related complications and the importance of having access to the right information and care to ensure timely treatment and management.


It's world diabetes day, let's increase the awareness.

Thanks for sharing this. Kudos to you.
Actually Gestational Diabetes (or Pregnancy Induced Diabetes) is a subset of Type 2 Diabetes. It doesn't stand on its own like some literature insinuate. Thank you

Aemmyjah:
Olodo
And by itself, the end products included life, consciousness, intelligence, natural laws, order, organization... Even if It does by itself, why can't intelligent humans do better?

What in Hades are you yammering about?

Aemmyjah:
Valid or invalid?

Do you know what a theory is? Fake biologist?

Aemmyjah:
3. It was misused by some persons makes the book itself corrupt shey. The Bible changes lives of millions for the better. Which science book can do so?

4. Oga, they were not resurrected to life
Keep arguing over a book you don't acknowledge anything about.

1. You're the dumbest human liveth. Without science, would you be typing this rubbish? Would you be alive? Would you have vaccines? Would you have docs who could have saved the lives of idiotas like yours? Would you have internet, phone or electricity to power the phone youre using to type this bollocks? Are you theists always thick like this?
How does the Bible change lives? Apart from telling people to kill other people, and segregating people, what has your babble achieved?

Aemmyjah:
1. Stop asking me for evidence that you can search on the internet. The same way you lied that there were no links on my post on God's existence

2. Go and be reading Egyptian history na. Why did people say that Shishak and Pilate never existed either until archeologists dropped something

1. Please provide your link. I didn't lie. If I did, show me I lied by providing the link. This is the last time I'm gonna talk about this non-existent link
2. Christian logic 101: Batman mentioned Gotham City as his home. Gotham City is an actual county in New York. So Batman must be real lol 😆

Aemmyjah:
One who will not give credit to a purposeful designer is automatically Giving credit to mindless process

Ok

Aemmyjah:
And the ones i mentioned are not phenotypic expressions?

Please answer my question

Aemmyjah:
Olodo

Thank you

Aemmyjah:
Many things I have demonstrated myself
That is why I love science cow you have to question what you learn and start working on it
Only one, we were told it to question but accept blindly - evolution

Have you examined any human fossils before?

Aemmyjah:
Nothing to say
Is your life a product of mindless process?

<silence>

Aemmyjah:
1. Olodo

2. Ask your wife or mum if labor was easy. Quacko

1. Ok
2. Irrelevant. The ease of labor isn't the topic here. So please stick to the topic

Aemmyjah:
Natural laws and scientific theories can be demonstrated using the scientific approach? Where?
In your home?

You said most of the theories can be demonstrated in labs. And I asked you how a particular theory can be demonstrated. So go on, show me. Don't dodge

Aemmyjah:
1....
2. Drop something everyone can see
3. No evidence...

You mean no one can see those links? Or do you have dyslexia?

Aemmyjah:
Oga
Drop evidence
Have you ever seen me drop links?

Ok. I see you love dodging reality. No p

Aemmyjah:
Sophia or Sophia existence has a purpose. Yes or No?

Yes. The purpose was to serve a master. So what is your point?

Aemmyjah:
1. Will you pay me to show you?
Kindly check the internet

And how much have you been paying me for providing links and evidence?

Aemmyjah:
Schooling who?
Did you see the conversation between him and SIRTee15 about smoke and aroma? And the historicity of Jesus?

Ok. Provide screenshot of that exchange. The only interphase between them was on my thread The Book of Bible Gaffes

Emusan:
The truth is you lied he didn't mentioned Divinity. So accept that first.



Yes! The problem is, you think is like a random guy of yours on Nairaland. With that 'DUDE'

Meanwhile, this is a professor who work with a Nobel prize winner for designing MRI.



So can you produce just one single sperm cell from lab without getting it from a woman?

[quotAnd no, its not beyond me. The specimen in those videos are what we studied in third year med school under Embryology and Genetics(as a course in Human Anatomy).

But you can't produce the process without getting the first cells from human. Can you?

So it's still beyond your comprehension.

So even though it may look amazing to you, it's just regular stuff for me.

It's still beyond your human comprehension.

If you disagree, produce the first sperm cell and egg cell let them become human.

In fact I had to fast forward much of that video cos I have seen it many times during med school(probably the reason why I didn’t hear the divinity shit you talked about). Thus its not beyond my comprehension. And yes he made a mistake. Please check out embryological developmental errors. This link should help you https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-34294-6

Yet you could ask "Did it occur to you it may be due to phone volume ish, noisy environment, multitasking etc.?"

You're a very dishonest person.

Its obvious you don't understand evolution and embryology.

I do.

Evolution explains how organisms change over time. Meaning takes years, centuries before appreciable changes are noticed.

And sperm cell and egg cell have been doing this BILLIONS TIMES, why there no appreciable changes?

Embryology is the study how a fetus is formed from a spermatozoa and ovum. It occurs less than 9 months. Changes are noticed immediately.

And this process is beyond human comprehension

Evolution isn't meant to explain all of embryology, only some parts. Now humans grow tails while in utero. Is this true or false? And why do you think so? I want you to answer that before I continue.
Thank you. Please don't dodge it. And dont tell me its not related to this debate, because it is. 100%

Even "some parts" is still a lie.

Yet you claim to be guru

How can you say human grow tails?

Anything growth means it's increasing in size.

Caudal eminence isn't growing.

1. I think you have a comprehension issue(which isn't surprising coming from a theist).
Someone told you he didn't hear a particular word in a long clip, then later agrees he can hear said word after re-watching the clip, and proffers reasons why he may have missed it the first time. And all you can say is he's dishonest? Really? So if you didn't hear your lecturer/friend/boss etc utter a word then you're a liar?

2. Whoever he is, he is a random dude. I can call any man a dude.
Since I'm getting to know the kind of person you are, that has poor comprehension skills and grammar paucity , I'll explain further. This is from a dictionary

dude
/d(j)uːd/
INFORMAL•NORTH AMERICAN
noun
[b]a man; a guy (often as a form of address).
"hey dude, what's up?"
[/b]
From the above, dude simply means a man. I simply called him a man, but you lost your shit about it.
Next time build up your grammar before engaging me.

3. Not only are you grammatically deficient, but scientifically, you're a thoroughbred dvnce.
Artificial spermatozoa and ova have been created https://www.science.org/content/article/making-sperm-scratch#:~:text=Embryonic%20stem%20cells%20form%20sperm%2C%20with%20a%20little%20help&text=Every%20sperm%20is%20great.,dish%2C%20scientists%20report%20this%20week.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/society/2014/dec/24/science-skin-cells-create-artificial-sperm-eggs

Also artificial embryos have been made.

I suggest you get your shit together before engaging me

4. So what kind of 'appreciable changes' do you expect in fetuses since sperm and egg cells fuse to form them? U well so? There's no evolutionary changes occurring in-utero. This shows you lot don't even understand what biological evolution is. Give it a read goddammit! When you eat food and it turns to stool, would you say its an evolutionary process?

5. The processes in embryology occur via DNA coding. Evolution is not encoded.
What happens in utero is growth of a vestigial tail. This describes a remnant of a structure found in embryonic life or in ancestral forms. During the 5th to 6th week of intrauterine life, the human embryo has a tail with 10–12 vertebrae. By 8 weeks, the human tail regresses. If you know the length of a human vertebra you won't spill this rubbish. The regressed portion ends up as the coccyx or tail bone. This tail bone is a reminder that our ancestors once owned tails. And those tails got shorter and shorter as there was no more use for it, til it disappeared. Other vestigial organs that still remain are the appendix, pineal body etc.

musicwriter:
One good thing that would happen to you if you quit Christianity or any other religion is that your eyes will open wide and you'll see clearly, in fact, you'll actually begin to understand what the bible is saying when you quit Christianity. What an irony!

Many people reading the bible don't understand that nobody in history met Jesus, including his so called disciples.

Mark, Luke, Mathew, John NEVER met Jesus!! Non even existed.

If you argue otherwise, then show me where in the bible where Mark or Mathew or Luke or John claimed to have met Jesus.

Nobody in history or in the bible claimed to have had any contact with Jesus.

You know why? Because Jesus is mythology, not a human being, and it was well understood among the ancients that any place "Jesus said" in the bible was an ancient template for anybody, any culture to write their own mythical savior/hero story in their image.

Jesus was never meant to be taken as a human being even among the earliest christians- the gnostics.

Again, Mark, Mathew, Luke, John NEVER claimed to have met Jesus. They simply reported a story as it was already told thousands of years before anybody heard of Jesus. That's why they always said "Jesus said to them" not "Jesus said to us". Even when Mathew who was supposedly a disciple of Jesus was writing, but he wrote "Jesus said to Mathew" not "Jesus said to me". But Christians aren't seeing it!! To be a Christian is to be spiritually BLIND.

If you think you know your bible better than I do, I am ready to take a bet with you.

I'll send N100,000 to your bank account if you show me any place where the bible said any of the quotes below:-

"Jesus told me"

"Jesus said to me"

"I said to Jesus"

"I told Jesus"

"Me and Jesus"

"Jesus and myself "

"We and Jesus"

"I saw Jesus "

"We saw Jesus "

"We met Jesus "

"Jesus met me"

"I met Jesus "

"Jesus gave me"

"I gave Jesus "

"I went to see Jesus "

"Jesus came to see me"

"Jesus healed me"

"I was healed by Jesus"

Mark, Luke, Mathew, John NEVER met Jesus!! Mark, Luke, Mathew, John like Jesus, NEVER even existed! They were all invented by Rome.

The dumbest thing I've ever done in my life was to be a Christian.

Those books were written well after the supposed time jesus was on earth. Go figure

Image123:
Not just good, next time read carefully and stop misrepresenting or deliberately misunderstanding me.
i will ignore it because it is none of my business; in other words, i don't care. It is of no value, relevance, or advantage to me if he did anything to the moon. Why would i engage in a baseless and useless argument over nothing? i am more than satisfied with what i have.

Ok. That's the same way I feel. I shouldn't have engaged you. So I'm sorry for asking you to prove soul and spirit exists.
Promise to ignore your posts

cornelboy:
Oh shape shifting 🙃

Have you ever looked at me skulls of ancient humans like Homo Erectus etc? Do they look like ours (Homo Sapiens)? Would you call it shape shifting?

Dtruthspeaker:
Says the fool wearing coke bottties for gllasses.

… and you resort to abuse when you're clearly caught out

Dtruthspeaker:
See the intelligence I always said you lacked?

You asked about proof of God, I answered and now because you have nothing to say, you left the post to go to an imaginative issue. And you think you are more intelligent than a kindergarten child.

You clearly wrote there something cannot create itself. So with that premise, who created god? If u say he cannot be created, why do you think the earth can be created?

cornelboy:
Lol everything you said and in the link only makes sense to you but not me lol.

Were is the evidence? That someone put up a story is the evidence lmfao 🤣

I believe the creator created the first pair of human with their thumbs. I'll never believe humans evolved their thumbs.
Have you see the fossils before in real life? Have you seen the fossils of humans without the thumbs? How are you sure about the accuracy of the dating? 2 millions years ago is not real lol.

What have humans evolved since then?

The bolded shows you don't even understand the evolution of the thumb. We never said humans didn’t have thumbs. We said it evolved. Meaning it wasn't like this before