Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 11:21pm On Nov 03, 2023 |
Image123: Jokers. As long as man has soul and spirit, he will continue to look for God or gods, like he continues to breathe oxygen. Any evidence of the bolded? By the way, just so you know, religion is gradually dying off. A simple research would help you. The atheist populations are ever increasing worldwide . Even religious strongholds are accepting scientific theories like evolution, Big Bang etc |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 11:10pm On Nov 03, 2023 |
Emusan: Focus on the point.
That video talks about conception to birth as MIRACLES, DIVINITY and beyond any Human comprehension.
Is that how evolution works? The video didn’t say conception to birth is a miracle. It just explains about the complexity involved in it. And to add to what the video says, this complex process can easily go wrong and give rise to a lot of aberrations from organ ageneses to fatalities. And who says humans don't understand the process of fetal formation? Ever heard of embryology? I studied it for 3 semesters back in school. Agreed there are some few things we don't understand (which will be understood as time goes on), we know what goes on there. I hope you know in-vitro fertilization and assisted fertility all comes from the knowledge we gathered from embryology. That's how babies can be formed even outside the womb by science. So if its a miracle how come babies can be formed by combining just one egg and sperm OUTSIDE THE WOMB IN AN IN-VITRO SETTINGS! Even science can form babies without sperm or egg but such research has been shut down due to ethical issues involved about creating humans that are stronger than the average. See bro, if you don't understand stuff, simply ask questions |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 11:02pm On Nov 03, 2023 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 11:00pm On Nov 03, 2023 |
Emusan: So you're looking for Yahweh in the video. 
Well, the purpose of that video is that evolution is a lie. Huh?  Dafuq! That video incorporated embrology and genetics, which take their knowledge from evolution. Wtf are you smoking? What in the video points to evolution being a lie?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 10:58pm On Nov 03, 2023 |
cornelboy: Well said! Atheist na follow follow people jàre. Wetin dẹ surprise me be say how a normal person go think say things came by chance, nobody planned and created them oga o What is even more head scratching is how a normal person believes a god pops outta thin air, creates the world, then created a man from the soil, then went ahead to create a woman from the rib  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 10:56pm On Nov 03, 2023 |
cornelboy: Lol 😂 evolution na science myth and old wife's tales. How their father take know wetin happen millions of years ago.
He said something about DNA and I asked him how the DNA got there and who or what coded it, his brain went blank. Whose father? I answered your question. Just in case you have comprehension issues, the origin of DNA is debatable. So I'd say I don't know till more knowledge about it comes forth |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 10:54pm On Nov 03, 2023 |
Lawag3: You tell me how it's right. One point against evolution is the lack of transitional fossils. If evolution were true, there should be an abundance of fossils showing the gradual evolution of one species into another. However, there are very few fossils that could be considered true transitional forms. Instead, there are many "gaps" in the fossil record where there should be transitional forms, but none have been found. Another point against evolution is the Cambrian Explosion, when a large number of complex animals suddenly appeared in the fossil record without any simpler predecessors. At last, someone with scientific knowledge I can engage with. Transitional fossils exist very much. Take for instance the hominid Australopithecus afarensis, which represents an evolutionary transition between modern bipedal humans and their quadrupedal ape ancestors. A number of traits of the A. afarensis skeleton strongly reflect bipedalism You can read up more on those fossils here where Darwin(as far back as then) documented them https://darwin200.christs.cam.ac.uk/transitional-fossils#:~:text=This%20transition%20is%20documented%20by,was%20also%2018meters%20long!). Now the Cambrian Explosion! The “Cambrian Explosion” refers to the appearance in the fossil record of most major animal body plans about 543 million years ago. The new fossils appear in an interval of 20 million years or less. On evolutionary time scales, 20 million years is a rapid burst that appears to be inconsistent with the gradual pace of evolutionary change. However, rapid changes like this appear at other times in the fossil record, often following times of major extinction. The Cambrian Explosion does present a number of interesting and important research questions. It does not, however, challenge the fundamental correctness of the central thesis of evolution. The animals of the Cambrian did not appear out of thin air. Animal fossils from before the Cambrian have been found. Roughly 575 million years ago, a strange group of animals known as Ediacarans lived in the oceans. Although, we don’t know much about the Ediacarans, the group may have included ancestors of the lineages that we identify from the Cambrian explosion. Read up more here https://biologos.org/common-questions/does-the-cambrian-explosion-pose-a-challenge-to-evolutionhttps://evolution.berkeley.edu/the-cambrian-explosion/ |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 4:33pm On Nov 03, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: Who's teachings has been undergoing Modification from time to time that even scientists including evolutionists could not even agree on the basis of his 'teachings' Bro, many scientists laws have undergone several revisions over time. And if Darwin's views undergo such, its not a crime. Its how science works. Everything, every law is scrutinized. Unlike religion where scrutiny or questions isn't allowed |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 4:31pm On Nov 03, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: 1. Christian kor? Ifa nii
2. If evolution is a scientific fact? Did they use the scientific approach?
3. Who proved him wrong? You think say human eye na toy gun 
Even Alfred Wallace later gave credit to the intelligent 'mind'. Tell me I'm lying 1. His religion is captured in a screenshot below 2. This is the last time I'm gonna answer this question. Maybe I'll use caps locks to make it sink into your thick brain. EVOLUTION IS A SCIENTIFIC FACT AND HAS BEEN BACKED BY SCIENTIFIC METHODSHenceforth if you ask me if evolution is scientific, you will only meet silence from me. 3. Other scientists proved him wrong. I wonder where you're heading with this point This is what Wallace believed in. He stated that something in "the unseen universe of Spirit" had interceded at least three times in history: the creation of life from inorganic matter; the introduction of consciousness in the higher animals; and the generation of the higher mental faculties in humankind. He believed that the raison d'être of the universe was the development of the human spirit.Does this translate into an intelligent mind? Anyway, whatever it means, his fellow scientists didn't believe it cos he couldn't prove anything
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Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 3:35pm On Nov 03, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: 1. Based on what? Assumptions? 2. Consult a scientific Journal 3. Ok 4. From arthropods to humans, the eyes was playing hanky panky between simple and complex  1. Based on scientific research. You can check them out 2. On what? 3. Arthropod eyes aren't the same as human eyes. I don't know what you're on about |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 3:27pm On Nov 03, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: With the scientific approach? YES |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 3:26pm On Nov 03, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: 1. And the same parents regulated that growth shey 2. Your penis na accident na 3. Civilization began in Africa. First humans kor? First humans nii. Using the evidence of civilization to assume that humans started there is nonsense 1. My parents don't need to regulate my growth actively. Its all coded in my genes. So they are indirectly responsible for my growth. For example, if short stature is encoded in my DNA, I'll get to be short no matter what I do. Even if my parents are long dead, their shortness DNA would be in me and be responsible for coding proteins for growth, so my growth hormones would be short-lived 2. No, my penis aren't by accident. All came up courtesy of DNA 3. Do you have ample evidence civilization didn’t start in Africa? Please do share |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 3:21pm On Nov 03, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: The mechanism to the reproduction and fusion of gametes and growth were regulated by that tree. Yes or No? If yes, was it conscious? Subconscious or unconscious?
Note that when we use the word create, I am not using it in the sense of producing something Yes, the tree regulated it via their DNA, unconsciously. Please what context do u use create? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 3:19pm On Nov 03, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: Read my post again The link is there If you cannot send the link, forget it |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 3:18pm On Nov 03, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: Good point Have you studied the DNA? Scientist called it the 'book of life' cos if contains all the information about the organism Which of your parent created the DNA?
Now answer this The DNA is a marvel of design or mere chance?
As any geneticist that question, they cannot Yes confidently It is far possible to see a skyscraper in a village built by no one than to think the DNA came by itself That's where you atheists have no wisdom I have answered this question. We don't know how DNAs came up. If you do, please educate me with evidence. Thank you |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 3:14pm On Nov 03, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: I am talking about what is now taught in biology classes? Keep evading questions that are too high for you Please which questions am I evading |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 3:01pm On Nov 03, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: Iphones can be evolved? Do they evolve by themselves? Yes or No? Lemme help you outta your misery. I said iphones can be evolved. And not iPhones evolved(even if I said the later, I'm still correct theoretically) IPhones can be evolved because their manufacturers(who are humans) change their designs, hardware, software etc, over time. That is the evolution |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 2:58pm On Nov 03, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: Oga You are not making sense but diverting my question The universality and diversity of religion amd worship among humans only gives evidence that there's no God right? Olodo It simply shows how the human mind work. The human mind(especially the illiterate mind) fixes god into the gaps of knowledge. They fixed it when there was nil knowledge about rain, thunder etc. Now we know how all those happened, you have fixed it into the origin of humankind. If science fixes that, it would be the biggest knowledge jump ever So no, the diversity of religion only points to ignorance |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 2:53pm On Nov 03, 2023 |
cornelboy: I won't derail the thread any further. We could continue our discussion about how creation came to be in another thread later.
Here's a simple fact, "the universe and everything in it are not without a mastermind". Stay safe. No. You haven't derailed the thread. We are talking about the credibility of the creation story, and against evolution. So we are still on topic. So don't run away |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 2:46pm On Nov 03, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: Do you not see that you contradicting yourself with your bad reasoning when you said "the person that put the maize in the oven or microwave created the popcorn"?
That is the trap you entered and can't get out of becsuse of that bad reasoning. Is popcorn the same as maize? Arent you seeing the difference? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 2:44pm On Nov 03, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: If you had not hastily jumped on budaatum's shit, you would have seen that the bold is what I was complaining of in my thread which budaatum raised for children have no farms or businesses so why force them to learn square roots and compound interest?
Is it not adults who own farms and businesses and if they had problems with their engagements they definitely would seek out a solution to it?
That is one of the points I was making in my thread which you have just restated.
So don't leap before you look! Does it occur to you that learning square roots can make their work easier? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 11:13pm On Nov 02, 2023 |
cornelboy: Oh I wasn't even aware of the thread's topic. I was emphasizing on whether the universe and life have an intelligent creator or not.
First, the word "God" is a common noun that could be used for anybody or thing. It's not a proper noun.
There are fake and real money in Nigeria and it only takes some few test to differentiate them. That's why it's your responsibility to search for the real God if there's.
My main bone of contention is that can any sane person randomly conclude that the universe and life could have come by chance and not designed and created by a mastermind?
It's more logical to reason that someone planned everything Mr atheism  So there is a 'real god'? Interesting…. So how did u arrive at the conclusion that 1) your god is the real deal 2) he/she/they in fact created the world |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 11:12pm On Nov 02, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: That is why I asked you the question 'How then do you praise Steve jobs as the creator of the iPhone instead of the unnamed workers who actually created it by your reasoning?"
So do you see how flawed and contradictory and unstable your reasoning is? 1. We don't know their specific names. 2. Since the phones come from Apple factories, and Jobs owns Apples, then automatically he bears any praise(or accusations) for Apple Savvy? |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Changed After I Started Paying My Tithe by jaephoenix(m): 11:09pm On Nov 02, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: See another shift of post. Now you are running to hide under the op after I have answered your response
Clearly, you don't have any intelligent thing to say. Which question did you answer |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Changed After I Started Paying My Tithe by jaephoenix(m): 10:56pm On Nov 02, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: You shifted the post saying "Matter of fact I loaned my tithing bro money last week. Who does Elon Musk pay tithes to? Or Gates? Or Buffett?" Are these about God rewarding tiithers? No.
Thus, let us all reap whatsoever we sow. No one asked you to tithe. Reread the OP's post. It's clearly about Yahweh rewarding tithers |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 10:44pm On Nov 02, 2023 |
cornelboy: You guys shout logic here and there but you fail woefully to apply it when it comes to questions about life and creation and the universe.
I know that the universe and everything in it today couldn't have come from anything but the handiwork of an intelligent designer. It's a simple reasoning but atheism has blocked some portion of your brain not to see that.
So whether some people believe in ifa or Sango or Thor or Allah or Yahweh, it has absolutely nothing to do with what we are discussing. The topic said God or Yahweh exists. Now if he exists that means the other gods like Allah ,Zeus etc don't exist. So your point in bold is irrelevant |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 10:42pm On Nov 02, 2023 |
cornelboy: Okay guess it'd take millions of years for atheist scientists to unravel that lol
The way the DNA works, is it logical to say it was programmed by an intelligent being or what? You believe stuffs came by chance?
I understand that atheists don't agree on the same theories so can you define your "beliefs" here? Stupid question |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 10:41pm On Nov 02, 2023 |
cornelboy: Stupid and illogical question actually. Lol. Now its an illogical question abi? No wahala  |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Changed After I Started Paying My Tithe by jaephoenix(m): 10:40pm On Nov 02, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: It is known that riches is nothing. Even animals have been given riches as experts have lived and died in want.
But the bottomline is we all reap what we sow so live your life as you deem fit. Stop shifting the goal post. We are talking about your god rewarding tithers with wealth, and nothing else |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 10:10pm On Nov 02, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: What does that prove? That God never existed cos of diverse forms of worship? De play  So Allah, Zeus, Thor and Yahweh are the same? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 10:02pm On Nov 02, 2023 |
Maynman: The video just proves evolution. That same process is repeated in other animals. Leave the ignoramus. Theists are denser than thick butter |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 10:02pm On Nov 02, 2023 |
cornelboy: Incoherent! Since you don't understand English. He meant how did your Yahweh come about? Did he create himself or pop into existence just like that |