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Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Atheists Desist From Answering This Question ? by jaephoenix(m): 10:16am On Sep 20, 2023
iamwhat:
Anybody that accepts evolution theory is not a Christian.
It's a paradox to be a Christian and also evolutionist.
Meaning the pope is an atheist. Right
Christianity EtcRe: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by jaephoenix(m): 10:15am On Sep 20, 2023
gisevak:
Example of nature is Human. Do you agree nature exists? YES [/b]OR [b]NO
Please what is 'nature'? I need definitions
Christianity EtcRe: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by jaephoenix(m): 10:13am On Sep 20, 2023
KnownUnknown:
What first human?
What evidence of creations?
Point out any natural thing that’s in the process of being “created”.
Dude is a regular theist with the cloak of agnosticism
Christianity EtcRe: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by jaephoenix(m): 10:12am On Sep 20, 2023
LordReed:
LoLz. Nice attempt to shift the burden of proof to me. You are the one making the claim that they are evidence of a creation so it is up to you to supply the proof that they are.
Exactly
Christianity EtcRe: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by jaephoenix(m): 10:12am On Sep 20, 2023
gisevak:
do you have any proof that nature and its laws are not creations?
You made the allegations. The onus to provide proof lies with you
Christianity EtcRe: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by jaephoenix(m): 10:08am On Sep 20, 2023
gisevak:
The first human is an example of a creation
Huh! What is evident about creation in a human? Try to be specific
Christianity EtcRe: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by jaephoenix(m): 9:59am On Sep 20, 2023
Maynman:
That's why I call agnostics, theists sympathizers, when they are done sympathizing they will come around.
When the question of gods come in, it's either yes or no which is theism or atheism, any other thing is just extra.
And the funny thing is theists don't give a fvck about the label. U dont believe in god, u r a doomed atheist. End of story. In fact, amongst christians here, if you don't belong to their sect or denom, you're an atheist. We see this especially between DTruthSpeaker and Maxindhouse
Christianity EtcRe: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by jaephoenix(m): 8:17am On Sep 20, 2023
gisevak:
The evidence of a creator is in the creation, except you would tell me creation can exist without a creator. Nature and its laws are its evidence we cannot just reject. Can you address the subject of discussion?
You carefully ignored the question
Christianity EtcRe: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by jaephoenix(m): 8:16am On Sep 20, 2023
gisevak:
Consciousness is a state of awareness of one's surroundings and inner thoughts, but goes beyond just be awake.
Ok so we weren't born with consciousness then. We 'grew' into it
Christianity EtcRe: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by jaephoenix(m): 8:15am On Sep 20, 2023
Wilgrea7:
Affirmative
So you completed the spectrum. Interesting…
Like I said in that thread, agnosticism is a spectrum with you on the atheist end of it while AOO1, Triplechoice, Workch and that op scattered on it. That op in that thread is at the theist end. And also this op: A step away from theism
Christianity EtcRe: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by jaephoenix(m): 7:10am On Sep 18, 2023
SIRTee15:
Show me where I said Yahweh said nothing in the bible.
I've always known English language comprehension is a big problem for u.
A primary school pupil should decipher my first post on the matter.
This is what you said, Mr. Liar

I already defined to u what exactly is the word of God.
So I don't understand your point above.

THE WORD OF GOD IS THE MESSAGE not the letter.
U should learn the classification of exegesis in the bible. Words are men in the bible are not expressive and not inspired.

The biblical writer never thought or said they were writing God’s words verbatim . Instead, they were writing what they knew, what they heard, what they experienced about God.

The hard copy bible is a collection of words about God, not a collection of God’s words to us.

The message in the hard copy bible is the word of God and this is what is inspired by the holy spirit. That is what should not be added or removed.

Show me where a bible author said he was writing from God verbatim.
So where Paul said this are his own words and not the Lord....is that word of God too?

Go and learn about word of God, rhema and logos.
Then u can come back here to discuss what is the scripture.

From The above highlighted words, you infer there are no verbatim words from Yahweh, Mr. Lie Lie.
In case you are so illiterate u don't know what verbatim means, it means word for word. And the verses I quoted showed the words in quote, meaning they were verbatim.
Take your illiteracy outside here please
Christianity EtcRe: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by jaephoenix(m): 7:03am On Sep 18, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
There can't be FRAUD without AUTHENTIC that's what made both of you fools.

If i am fraud in Christianity let him present the authentic nah! cheesy
A fraud in this means you're a liar
Christianity EtcRe: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by jaephoenix(m): 7:02am On Sep 18, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Come on shut up there! cheesy
The guy quoted me several times that's why i mentioned him too so face front! cheesy
Who quoted u?
Christianity EtcRe: Nigerian Atheists Silenced After India Successful Moon Mission by jaephoenix(m): 6:45am On Sep 18, 2023
LordReed:
I had to show one Catholic colleague that indeed the BBT was accepted by the Catholic Church, he initial denied it vehemently until I showed it to him.
The Nigerian Catholics don't even know that the pope(a picture of catholic authority) accepts evolution. I had to show some of the ignoramuses here
Christianity EtcRe: Nigerian Atheists Silenced After India Successful Moon Mission by jaephoenix(m): 6:43am On Sep 18, 2023
jmoore:
Nigerian atheists will make it seem that only atheists are scientists.

Nigerian atheists keep painting the picture of theists as those who are against science.

The head of the team that achieved India moon project is S Somanat. He is a Hindu.

The only thing Nigerian atheists can produce is noise.
Many scientific research has been undertaken by theists. They remove their theistic illogical brain and put on their logical reasoning while at work. No atheists said theists don't do science
Christianity EtcRe: Benefits Of Drinking The Blessed Urine Of Our Holy Prophet Mohammed! by jaephoenix(m): 2:54am On Sep 18, 2023
TenQ:
Well, that’s pastors who do despicable and horrible things in the name of God in their churches can not claim to have their backing from the Bible or even church traditions.

Unlike this sir!
They would say otherwise for you: your view isn't biblical. And they would quote the same bible to back their actions
Christianity EtcRe: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by jaephoenix(m): 2:51am On Sep 18, 2023
gisevak:
Why should I reject the existence of a creator since there is more evidence to accept its existence than not? No scientist has claimed he or she created any natural laws or nature. They can always deceive themselves. Let's hear from atheists about the existence of human consciousness. They may have scientific explanations.
Any evidence of this creator? His or their names? How did it/they pop up? Who was his/their creator? etc
Christianity EtcRe: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by jaephoenix(m): 2:50am On Sep 18, 2023
gisevak:
How do atheists explain the origin of consciousness in the universe, and what are their views on the human existence and cosmic evolution?
Explain more on this your 'consciousness' , then I would answer you
Christianity EtcRe: Steps Where Jesus walked Healed a Blind Man Unearthed In Jerusalem by jaephoenix(m): 2:48am On Sep 18, 2023
Jokerman:
Wow.

God's so good.

Keeping the atheists and naysayers in the mud everyday
Yeah. Spider-man existed. Why do I think so? The Statue of Liberty, which he swings onto in the movies and comic books, also exists.
Theist logic 101
Christianity EtcRe: Benefits Of Drinking The Blessed Urine Of Our Holy Prophet Mohammed! by jaephoenix(m): 7:53am On Sep 17, 2023
TenQ:
Benefits of Drinking the Blessed Urine of our Holy Prophet Mohammed

You got me rightly o: this is not my words, this is what Muslims teach themselves when they are in their mosques. The above is found in the islamic website Posted by IslamicVirtues in Islamic Medicine
https://islamicvirtues.com/2013/12/02/benefits-of-drinking-the-blessed-urine-of-our-holy-prophet-s/

BENEFITS OF DRINKING THE URINE OF PROPHET MOHAMMED
1. Guaranteed Entrance to Paradise:
Take for example the case where a companion of the Prophet drinks his blessed urine, only to discover that she has now been shielded completely from the fire of Hell!

Imam Suyyuti narrates an authentic report in his al-Khasaa’is al-Kubra, vol. 2, page 253 (published by Daar al-Kutub al-Arabiy — some other online editions have this narration in vol. 2, page 441):
And Tabarani and Bayhaqi narrated with an authentic chain of transmission from Hukaymah daughter of Umaymah from her mother (Umaymah) who said, the Prophet (May Allah bless him and grant him peace) had a wooden bowl in which He used to urinate which was placed under his bed. One night he searched for it but did not find it and asked for it saying, “Where is the bowl?” The members of the house replied “Barrah, the slave girl of Umm Salamah, drank it.” (Barrah had come with Umm Salamah from Habashah with her.)
The Prophet (S) replied, “Surely she has protected herself from the fire with a great wall!”


2. The Urine of Prophet Mohammed in Well water makes the water taste sweet and cool
Imam Abu Nu’aym narrates the practice of Anas RA, with his chain, who said: ‘The Messenger of Allah used to pray salah at his house and made it long. Once, He (Mohammed SAW) urinated in the well, which was situated inside the house. Anas said: ‘there was no well in Madinah which tasted more cool and sweet than it’. He said: ‘when the sahabah come to my house I serve them with the sweet water of that well. In the era of jahiliyyah it was known as al-Barud, ‘the cool well’’’.
http://scholarspen..ca/2005/05/prophets-urine_10.html

3. Mohammed's Urine is the water of paradise
To conclude, I’ll leave you with this statement from the scholar, mystic and exegete, Isma’eel Haqqi al-Barusi who says in His exegesis of the Qur’an titled ‘Rooh al-Bayan’: “His noble hair is from the vegetation of Paradise, his saliva is from the honey of Paradise, and His urine, as some of our wise men say, is the water of Paradise.”
http://scholarspen..ca/2005/05/prophets-urine_10.html

4. Mohammeds Urine is a cure for Stomach Pains
Imam Suyuti’s narrations
Imam Jalal al-Din Suyuti reports from Abu Ya’la, Hakim, Dar Qutni, Tabarani and Abu Nu’aym from Umm Ayman May Allah be pleased with her, who said, ‘the Prophet got up one night and urinated in a bowl. During that night, I rose in the state of thirst so I drank whatever was in the bowl. In the morning I told Him what I had done to which He smiled and said, ‘surely you will never have pain in your stomach’’. Abu Ya’ala’s wordings are as follows, ‘you will never feel stomach pain as of today’.


NOTE:
Details of All these Hadiths can be found in the Islamic website: IslamiEducation
https://www.islamieducation.com/purity-and-cure-in-the-prophets-urine/



Questions:
1. Since Mohammeds Urine can guarantee paradise for Muslims, where can Muslims get a few drops
2. Are you looking forward to drinking the Urine of Prophet Mohammed in Paradise?
3. Is this act of drinking Human Urine not an act of worship of Mohammed?
4. Is it true that Prophets Mohammed's urine can cure diseases?


Please let's make the answers short, direct and precise
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This is rich coming from a religion whose adherents drink water from washed pastors feet and effluent seeping from dirty statues
Christianity EtcRe: You Cannot Become Lucifer If You Do Not Find The Cure For Cancer by jaephoenix(m): 7:50am On Sep 17, 2023
MrPresident1:
Exodus 15:26
And said, If thou wilt diligently hearken to the voice of the Lord thy God, and wilt do that which is right in his sight, and wilt give ear to his commandments, and keep all his statutes, I will put none of these diseases upon thee, which I have brought upon the Egyptians: for I am the Lord that healeth thee.


Cancer is a genetic level disease so it is difficult to cure by conventional medicine like tables or agbo, or injections. Cancer can only be cured at the genetic level by manipulating the genes/DNA. God is in charge of the DNA or 'Book of life' and any changes or alterations to it must happen as he directs, whether advantageous or deleterious.

Cancer is a disease that happens when an error occurs in the genetic coding for proteins. A string of DNA codes for certain proteins and these proteins are manufactured by the body, these are the building blocks of life, used for growth and repair. When there is an error in a DNA string, rogue proteins and the cells are created which go out of the control of the body's mechanism for destroying old cells. So, the body's mechanism for destroying and recycling old cells can not identify and destroy these cells. They grow and proliferate without control, and spread everywhere causing destruction and mayhem until they eventually kill the victim

Cancer happens by God's knowledge and acquiescence
1. Agbo is not conventional medicine
2. There are actually ways to prevent cancers. Ever heard of cancer vaccines?
3. Are you saying Yahweh loves causing pain and suffering for Christians who worship him?
Christianity EtcRe: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(op): 7:53pm On Sep 15, 2023
Aemmyjah:
1. From a twisted brain- Jaephoenix's

2. What has atheists done to humanity? Are they stopping wars? Bringing diplomacy? Or you want us to believe that religious persons don't do charitable works as well... Awon survival of the fittest... You brought up stupid illustration about 99% JW and the need of army to protect the nation and we should be thankful. Now you claim humanists, you be mumu pro. Same you that said you only think of self... Whether you believe in God as a Christian, Muslim, traditionalist, Jew... Whether you believe God has no personality or he's in nature or he's not existent... It's still your religion as it shapes your idea and thoughts and lifestyle about God. You live for the moment like animals... How can you match altruism with evolution if God does not exist... Mr humanity ... Was it God or religion that caused Ethiopia drought problems... Atheists humanists are not among those contributing to wars and sophisticated weapons right? You be mumu pro max sef... The philanthropist humanist you said worship patriotism, what would he do if his nation were threatened? You don't even think... The real humanists would not lift up hands to kill even in the spirit of nationalism... Should we be quoting names of people who believe in God that are philanthropists VS names of atheists that are philanthropists and see...


3. Well, global peace is possible but not through man's efforts... Atheist shouting humanism and making the world a better place but knowing that global peace is not possible


4. Japan and China are atheistic countries? Your mumu no too much? And I guess that atheists are less criminals as the fittest survives right? If Mexico and all these crime infested land should become atheist, crimes and drug abuse and trafficking will end right? De play... Not all animals that live in the wild are wild... Whether wild or domestic, atheists are animals as they live for the moment
1. So the jw.org publications is from my twisted mind abi? Idiota!
2. Since JW started in 1914, how many wars have they stopped? Bascard of no father! We have fought 2 world wars and yet you idiotas cant stop any. You think you stop wars by becoming quiet?
I think of myself doesn't mean I can't protect myself.
Please look up the definition of religion. Stop pulling up definitions from your ass like your idiot brother MadMax.
3. Global peace is not possible. Even in your JW Congregation there is no peace, so fvck off!
4. I said relatively atheist. Scandinavian countries are relatively atheist compared to Latin America.
Idiotic bastard, what do you mean by live for the moment?
Christianity EtcRe: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(op): 7:42pm On Sep 15, 2023
Aemmyjah:
And that includes the one you posted of a twisted, mentally imbalanced person right?
Yup
Christianity EtcRe: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(op): 7:41pm On Sep 15, 2023
Aemmyjah:
What is the duty of the court? Olodo grin grin grin
Give judgments. Do they stop bullets?
Christianity EtcRe: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(op): 7:41pm On Sep 15, 2023
Aemmyjah:
We don't share same mindset
Go n rest
Lol. So answer the question? What would Yahweh do in this case? grin
Christianity EtcRe: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(op): 7:40pm On Sep 15, 2023
Aemmyjah:
What snippets?
Keep on assuming
Atheists with their wild imaginations
Oh you didn't see the jw.org publications? Yes or no?
Christianity EtcRe: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(op): 7:39pm On Sep 15, 2023
Aemmyjah:
If?
But when I replied, you were attacking me
Shame on you
Stupid fallacy
Stupid question
I made a post and said IF. You replied that its impossible for the scenario to happen. Did I insinuate it happened? You well so?
Christianity EtcRe: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(op): 7:38pm On Sep 15, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ there can never be such a place until God wipe out all unbelievers like you. wink
Lol. I know u didn't do kindergarten. So no need explaining English language to you
Christianity EtcRe: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(op): 7:37pm On Sep 15, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
If your brain is working you should know that it makes no sense questioning people's beliefs when you're not interested in God! wink
Lol. Still dodging and derailing. Stick to the topic. Your replies to my posts are now getting hilarious. I feel your shame
Christianity EtcRe: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(op): 7:29pm On Sep 15, 2023
Aemmyjah:
Since you have nothing relevant to say and prove your accusation and you're full of envy
Your comments are read and successfully ignored
Til now, days later, you are yet to respond to a post showing your jw.org talking about how you guys mol@st and gay rape people. Even MadMax shut up
Christianity EtcRe: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(op): 7:27pm On Sep 15, 2023
achorladey:
Na now sun start to dey rise for your side. Go and meet the secretary of your congregation, tell him to hand over the keys where files and documents of their judicial actions.

You will get to see them there grin grin grin grin grin grin


After all you don deny publications of your religious organization several times. This time I have given you where to access them. Follow the direction given grin grin grin grin
Dont bother. He'll still tell you they are lies
Christianity EtcRe: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(op): 7:27pm On Sep 15, 2023
Aemmyjah:
We don't excommunicate anyone from the kingdom of God but we can protect the congregation from unrepentant wrongdoers
We won't slap a young girl by calling her a witch
We won't sack pastors cos they are not bearing much fruits money
We won't insult a national or political figure too
We won't publicly preach violence
LIAR LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE.
See what your own jw.org says
We do not automatically disfellowship someone who commits a serious sin. If, however, a baptized Witness makes a practice of breaking the Bible’s moral code and does not repent, he or she will be shunned or disfellowshipped. The Bible clearly states: “Remove the wicked man from among yourselves.”—1 Corinthians 5:13.
https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/shunning/

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