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Christianity EtcRe: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by jaephoenix(m): 7:43am On Sep 24, 2023
SIRTee15:
Even the definition of destiny u brought here agrees with me. Destiny can be altered by human actions.
If I'm to be honest with u, I will say u not a smart person. U just forcing it.

Maynman that thought Herod Agrippa was the first to call Jesus followers Christians. Na that one show me pepper. Someone that chaptgpt was humiliating up and down in that thread. Abegi....

I dont have time to waste with u. U not smart enough to waste time on.

Just explain to me what this phrase mean 'God dictated verbatim to the scribes/prophets'.
1. Trying to take control of one's destiny, does not mean one can actually control such destiny.
Even your own dictionary meaning clearly stated destiny is predetermined(irrespective of what you do)
2. About chatgpt, u didn't even know anything about it. You were just blabbing on that thread.
3. So when someone quotes another person word for word, its not verbatim?
Christianity EtcRe: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by jaephoenix(m): 7:39am On Sep 24, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
Only mad people suffer partial eyesightedness for every normal person can clearly see that God freed slaves and that in His bible He said "Ephesians 6:5
Servants, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ.

Even right now you serve people and no one in the world has ever said it is wrong to serve people.




America genocided Japan and no one said it was wrong if anything Japan was the one who apologized.

As i said it is only mad people like you and op who speak these lies.
1. Yahweh allowed only Israelites slaves to be freed after 7 years of suffering . Non Israelite slaves suffer for live
2. So what stopped Yahweh from telling Israelites slavery is bad, just like he condemned covetousness, stealing, murder etc
3. We're talking about Yahweh here, who is considered sacrosanct and holy. Not US that is run by sinful mortals. Learn to use your brain
Christianity EtcRe: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by jaephoenix(m): 7:34am On Sep 24, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
It is proven already. AS CONCERNING US AND OUR WORLD, THINGS DO NOT CREATE THEMSELVES..

THEY ARE ALWAYS CREATED AND BROUGHT INTO EXISTENCE BECAUSE A PERSON CREATED THEM.

NO FURTHER REASONABLE QUERY AFTER THIS.
Who created them? Whats evidence of this creation? And who created this creator?
Christianity EtcRe: The Bible 101 For Dummies. by jaephoenix(m): 7:27am On Sep 24, 2023
Kobojunkie:
The Bible actually make that claim? Where? undecided

The Book is instead primarily a story about a people — the descendants of Jacob— and 2 Nations constituted of the people — The Nation of Israel(and then Judah) in the Land of Canaan, and the Kingdom of God(a Nation that is not of this world), the constitution of both Nations clearly expressed in the Bible. So how in the world can any of that be considered religious? undecided
I don't even think you read the Bible. Its clearly written there. If you don't know, tell me and I'll show you the quotes
Christianity EtcRe: how atheists are taking advantage of the liberalism in christianity. by jaephoenix(m): 7:24am On Sep 24, 2023
HISSCRIBE1995:
is atheism a religion ?
No. When you switch off a Television, what channel would you be watching
HealthRe: Nigerian Doctors Wait As Indian Doctors Gain Approval To Practice In US, Canada by jaephoenix(m): 6:53pm On Sep 23, 2023
AntiChristian:
We are moving closer!

We have a capable minister!

We have a willing president!

And most importantly with God on our side!

Nigeria will be great and the naysayers will left behind!
What do you see in the medical sector that is making you so enthusiastic?
That sector is fvcked
HealthRe: Nigerian Doctors Wait As Indian Doctors Gain Approval To Practice In US, Canada by jaephoenix(m): 6:50pm On Sep 23, 2023
Raskimonojendor:
I am 100% sure that Canada does not give a fak about The World Federation for Medical Education (WFME).

You will still be put through the huddle below:
And to make matters worse, you can't even take MCCE in Nigeria. The nearest center is Ghana. Nigerian doctors see hell during obtaining of Canadian medical licenses
Christianity EtcRe: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by jaephoenix(m): 4:04pm On Sep 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Fool!

There can never be a liar without the truth sayer so present the truth sayer so we can compare and contrast with the liar. cheesy
The truth is you're lying
Christianity EtcRe: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by jaephoenix(m): 4:03pm On Sep 20, 2023
xproducer:
++++++++

Without question, yes... mankind does not write like this... only GOD declares centuries prior (of the arrival of the Lord YESHUA, MESSIAH HIMSELF, of Persian king Cyrus and his part in history, other empires past and their end) and decades before with specificity (destruction of the second temple in A.D. 70, the reformation and return of the nation of Israel to their given homeland, etc).

In the Holy Bible the evidence of humankinds' shortcomings are apparent, but certainly more evident is GOD's purpose, and power and infinite wisdom!

"All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work." - 2 Timothy 3:16-17

"for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit." - 2 Peter 1:21

David’s Last Words:
"Now these are the last words of David. Thus says David the son of Jesse; Thus says the man raised up on high, The anointed of the God of Jacob, And the sweet psalmist of Israel: "The Spirit of the Lord spoke by me, And His word was on my tongue. The God of Israel said, The Rock of Israel spoke to me: ‘He who rules over men must be just, Ruling in the fear of God." - 2 Samuel 23:1-3
Can you point out where the prophecies were made?
Christianity EtcRe: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by jaephoenix(m): 4:02pm On Sep 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Does these stories stop billions from attending the Mass with Catholics?
Ọmọ use your brain, it's what people see in their neighbourhood that really matters not what you fabricate! wink
Unlike you guys, Catholics aren't denying the stories. But are not hiding them and also they are doing something about it. They also issued apologies. But u and Enemyjah has been denying it for years
Christianity EtcRe: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by jaephoenix(m): 3:59pm On Sep 20, 2023
Aemmyjah:
All these child abuse claims are lies
The biggest way today to publicly embarrass a person or organization is to accuse them as guilty of charges like child abuse or any sexual abuse...
Just one of their slander... We are free with our children and I can entrust my children to stay with a brother or sister even more than my relatives... Yet, they say our organization is infested with child abusers

They say we sell books
They say Our GB members are businessmen with huge shares
They say we are selling our kingdom halls to make money
They say We are desperately begging people to join us cos our numbers are declining
They say we don't care for our young and allow them to die when issue of blood arises... They deliberately ignore that in the developed world, the use of blood in surgeries is now frowned at and many who don't even believe in God or heard what the Bible says regarding blood don't accept blood in medical care cos of the risks associated with it... So-called Christians claiming to follow the Bible will point accusing fingers... They deliberately ignore that there's alternative to blood surgeries which is more cheaper, risk effective... They deliberately ignore that use of blood is even 50-50... You may die and you may live but there are risks associated

Atheists are envious that one group is beating their intelligence... Religious people too are envious too. Pharisees, sadducees and non worshippers collabo to throw accusations they can't prove
Lies abi?
But someone brought up a screenshot of a publication where your organization made a publication on their website jw.org stating that you have gays, rapists, molesters etc in your midst. Til now you and Nairaland resident fruitcake MadMax have gone mute on that. Idiot
Christianity EtcRe: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by jaephoenix(m): 3:57pm On Sep 20, 2023
Nelidee:
Question: Why are there so many abusers in your organisation?

MaxInDHouse: I refuse to believe there are child rapists and abusers in my organisation because you have not shown me one from your neighborhood

Questions: But your organisation hides these cases and threaten members from reporting to the police, how can we hear about it in our neighborhood when your organisation tells raped victims to keep silent?

MaxInDHouse: Why are you pointing fingers at my Christian organisation for tolerating and hiding child abusers and molesters when you an atheist support depopulation?

undecided

Obviously there is something wrong somewhere in your brain.
He's a well known fruitcake here. Along with Aemmyjah and Janosky
Christianity EtcRe: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by jaephoenix(m): 3:56pm On Sep 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Each month i donate thousands to God's organization and i will continue to do more! wink
Please continue. Jehovah would bless you as you donate towards settlement of child abuse cases(aka hush money) cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by jaephoenix(m): 3:51pm On Sep 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Bring picture of JW in your neighbourhood who was molesting a child.
Thanks in advance! smiley
Even your jw.org corroborated those stories that you guys are rapists, gays etc. What again do you wanna deny? Someone gave you a screenshots of their publications weeks ago but you have refused to say anything about it. Even Aemmyjah kept quiet.
Hypocrites!
Christianity EtcRe: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by jaephoenix(m): 3:47pm On Sep 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
How many have you caught in your neighbourhood? smiley
Have you caught a Nigerian politician stealing money?
Christianity EtcRe: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by jaephoenix(m): 3:47pm On Sep 20, 2023
Caveatemptor:
Keep burying your head like an ostrich as usual.
The problem I always have with Christians is refusal to see errors in the Bible and rationality explain these errors. You guys would rather turn a blind eye to all the contradictions and evil teaching in the Bible and attempt to explain it away in a circular kind of way.
See no evil and hear no evil.

Once again I repeat the bible does not condemn slavery and promotes misogyny, genocide, human sacrifice, rape,mass murder,lies,incest,destruction of entire civilisations amongst other evil deeds. That is why so many pastors and religious leaders are able to engage in paedophilia and sexual abuse of their female members.

Look,I know it is hard for you to accept these things but deep down in your heart you know all what I wrote is true. However I don't want to derail this thread so I challenge you to open your own thread and tag me so we can quote Bible passages and critically examine the bible.
I opened such a thread but all they gave was gibberish
Christianity EtcRe: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by jaephoenix(m): 3:45pm On Sep 20, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
This thread is about one of what you people call contradictions and as you have seen, it is explained. And the contradictions are not even bad. Just a proof that devils will reveal themselves by their talks.

Secondly, the bible is the first to condemn slavery and order the release of slaves.

https://www.nairaland.com/7554359/god-condemned-slavery-7-bible

Thirdly, it condemned all the evils you mentioned, rapist, incest, liars and entire evil nations were punished, so nothing wrong here.
1. No, the contradiction was not explained. You just said gibberish which was not an explanation
2. The bible condoned and allowed slavery
Colossians 3:22

Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything you do. Try to please them all the time, not just when they are watching you. Serve them sincerely because of your reverent fear of the Lord


Ephesians 6:5
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ.

3. Yahweh specifically asked people or allowed incests, rapes, murders, genocides, infanticides etc
Christianity EtcRe: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by jaephoenix(m): 3:40pm On Sep 20, 2023
SIRTee15:
1. U were definitely overwhelmed. I remember I took on 3 of u atheists on that thread and didn't misquote anyone. So don't blame it on multitasking, u are not the only one doing that
U were definitely punched so bad on that thread u didn't know who was who anymore.
2. Your questions were all answered. You were just too coward and obstinate to see it. I remember one of your atheist colleague was humiliated on that thread so bad he almost cried.
Funny enough u didn't even offer to help him with counter evidence. U abandoned him to continue wallowing in his dose of disgrace. That shows how coward u are.
3. U are simply a liar. U came up with evidence of immune response in cancer therapy. I asked u if u have heard of immunotherapy, u admitted u don't know much about it.
Go back and read immunotherapy, that explain the evidence u brought up.
FYI BCG is used in the treatment of bladder cancer.
Compare above with your last evidence and see the similarity.
Your are not in any position to determine who is a medical personnel. Your own credentials are in doubt. Are u not they guy who didn't know the essence of biopsy in cancer management.
4. It obvious u had a terrible upbringing. Constant use of vulgar words as an adult is as a result of childhood abuse. What u suffering from now is what's called ACE.
5. Not surprise with your warp definition of destiny.
Since u believe a child who will become a prostitute is already determined at birth.
Such a depraved soul cannot come up with something better.
1. Lol. It was my thread and I'm obligated to be more active. The other atheist was Maynmann and he showed you pepper. There were only 2 of us. I know u can't count. And you don't even know what I was doing while chatting with you, so you have no point. For all you know, I was driving and distracted. But to your illiterate mind, any misquote means submission.
2. No you didn't answer my questions. I asked you why spontaneous remission occurs in anyone and not just christians. But you kept on dodging that question. Lol, which atheist was at the point of crying? Please name him or her, Mr. Lienus. If you were talking of Maynmann, then you're wrong. He kicked your ass. You kept on dodging questions. You need to stop lying.
3. Lol. Please explain how I didn’t know the essence of biopsy in a lump
4. You call my convo vulgar? No p
5. I know u are very empty. And your knowledge of science is derived from your pastor. Below is the definition of destiny derived from 2 world known dictionaries, Merriam Webster(American) and Cambridge(British)
As you can see they all denote events beyond control, which cannot be changed or predetermined
Olodo

HealthRe: Adebola Akin-Bright: Lagos Boy With Missing Intestine Dead by jaephoenix(m): 1:41pm On Sep 20, 2023
clinician2x:
One head of department don use the intestine run juju to get promotion. Nothing the wasteside no fit do. Very fetish region.

Come to think of it. How and why is the hospital denying the allegations? Stuffs like this no de hard na. Before a patient is admitted a comprehensive (SOAP) assessment is carried out on all systems together with history taking.

If at a later time, such a development was discovered then it must be from the hospital and nowhere else.

That hospital have harvested the child's intestines for ritual. E no be skull again, or bress and prick, na intestine brown roof babalawo de collect.
Are you sure you're a clinician?
Christianity EtcRe: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by jaephoenix(m): 1:20pm On Sep 20, 2023
Freksy:
Can you quote where I said the creation and creator are the same?

Every factory is owned by someone.

The earth as a giant factory belongs to someone too.
Who is this someone?
Christianity EtcRe: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by jaephoenix(m): 1:00pm On Sep 20, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
Fallacy of asking the impossible.

Everything here is concerned about discoveriing the truth of the begining of our life and world.

AND NOT ABOUT DISCOVERING THE WORLD OF OUR WORLD. THIS PART IS OUT OF SCOPE AND A FORAY INTO MADNESS!
Lol. Stay away from philosophical discourses. You need to think first
Christianity EtcRe: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by jaephoenix(m): 12:55pm On Sep 20, 2023
Freksy:
If you work into a production facility that is fully automated, observe as raw materials are processed and transformed to finished products, I am sure you would not walk away with the conclusion that the products are selfmade simply because no human facility operator is in sight.

Consider the earth, with all the energy and materials in it, as being on auto mode for procreation and reproduction.

Take a deeper look at various reproduction processes and the things involved.
Whats your time
Christianity EtcRe: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by jaephoenix(m): 12:35pm On Sep 20, 2023
Emusan:
Are you part of that 'WE'?

Just say you're waiting for your atheist gods to tell you what to believe on that cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy
Who are the 'atheist gods'?
Christianity EtcRe: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by jaephoenix(m): 12:34pm On Sep 20, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
Yeah! And matter and so called "energy" are things which create themselves right?
There's still debates about their origins. But if u say its your favorite god that created them, u have to provide proof
Christianity EtcRe: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by jaephoenix(m): 11:35am On Sep 20, 2023
gisevak:
Which evidence are you looking for while we see natural creations such as trees and many more? You are a creation!
Trees aren't created!
You lack simple scientific knowledge judging by your posts
Christianity EtcRe: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by jaephoenix(m): 11:32am On Sep 20, 2023
Wilgrea7:
I don't usually shy away from the title "atheist", but for a lot of people, the word doesn't mean the same thing it means for me.

To me, an atheist is someone who lacks the belief in a god/gods. A stunning number of other people see atheism as the claim that god/gods do not, and cannot exist.

Because of that, I tend to identify as agnostic, to avoid the headache of people misrepresenting my position. cheesy
Does lack of belief equate to denial of facts?
Lemme break it down. If you say I as an atheist 'lack' belief in hsgdjc, are you saying there is actually evidence that hsgdjc exists but I simply lack such evidence?
Christianity EtcRe: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by jaephoenix(m): 11:28am On Sep 20, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
Simple.
Because every reasonable person knows that Laws don't make themselves and they are made by A Creator who has set how He wants His creation to be.

Everyone knows that!
Lollest DTruthSpeaker!
Are you saying 'the creator' postulated the laws of thermodynamics?
Are you also aware some of these laws are flawed. Are you saying 'the creator' made flawed laws?
Like I always tell you, stay away from scientific or philosophical discourses. You simply don't have the resources to engage in them
Christianity EtcRe: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by jaephoenix(m): 10:55am On Sep 20, 2023
gisevak:
A simple analogy is this: I saw a mansion at a place. And I couldn't see the builder. Does it just make sense to say there is no builder? Is it logical to conclude that the builder of such a mansion doesn't exist? What cause the natural process?
We know how buildings come into place. Matter of fact, we have seen buildings being built and what's more, the building process is well documented.
Do you know the process in creating a human? Have you seen a human created and what are the process of creating 'the first human'?
Christianity EtcRe: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by jaephoenix(m): 10:47am On Sep 20, 2023
gisevak:
"Natural creation" typically refers to the process by which entities, or others come into existence through natural means.
Explain 'natural means'
Thus by this definition there is artificial creation
Christianity EtcRe: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by jaephoenix(m): 10:32am On Sep 20, 2023
gisevak:
Please explain to me the existence of humans. Do not deviate from the op position.
We probably evolved from unicellular organisms. About the origin of this unicellular, I don't know
There are abounding evidence about evolution
If you say stuff was created, u need to give evidence
Christianity EtcRe: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by jaephoenix(m): 10:29am On Sep 20, 2023
gisevak:
Natural creations that include mountains, ecosystems, and even living organisms; Are this not evidence of creation to you? Or Are these not natural creations?

You said creation didn't exist! Are you kidding yourself or someone else?
A tree was once a seed. So in effects it wasn't created, it grew!
Mountains too are results of volcanic activities, waves etc. They weren't created.
So I don't know what you're yammering about
Christianity EtcRe: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by jaephoenix(m): 10:21am On Sep 20, 2023
gisevak:
Maybe you have any in the process of being created. We can all see the trees, humans and many more are creations. So what are you saying?
Who created the big baobab tree in my village? And how was it created

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