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Christianity EtcRe: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(op): 2:43pm On Sep 15, 2023
Aemmyjah:
Our campaign is changing lives for the better
People now have hope
People are learning how to truly love one another, avoiding conflicts and willing to rather die than to kill in the name of national interest
Criminals who have accepted Bible study and now becoming better citizens
Marriages on the brink of breaking up are now more united than ever
Our high moral standards help us maintain cleanliness and protect us from STDs
People who were anxious for the future are now full of hope
Indeed we are turning swords into plowshares
Our goal is to change hearts... Find those who are rightly disposed for everlasting life...

Can you now tell us how atheism can make the world a better place
Oh please shut your piehole!
There are whole websites dedicated to JW in-fighting and lawsuits. We are not fools
Christianity EtcRe: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(op): 2:41pm On Sep 15, 2023
achorladey:
I talk am, he has to raise a question grin grin grin
And a stupid one at that
Christianity EtcRe: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(op): 2:40pm On Sep 15, 2023
achorladey:
grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

This one na serious wahala for Max, na rope question be this. No way he is going to respond to this without lies and manipulations grin grin grin

Considering the cases of homosexuality, fornication, adultery, child molestation and other vices found in their midst as captured in their own very publications grin grin grin grin
His fellow puppet is here disturbing me about how they cohabit with each other. Imagine? After they have fvcked each others children and wives. The fight there would be huge. But of course they would hide it
Christianity EtcRe: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(op): 2:38pm On Sep 15, 2023
Aemmyjah:
Our kingdom campaign is changing hearts
Cos even atheists who have no common sense don't want to see cos of their acute blindness that the problem of man is moral, not political


The Bible has changed lives and keep Changing lives
People who accept the Bible now live clean and free... No fear of the future, criminals qre becoming better citizens, families that their unity was hanging on a thread are now well united and we have a loving, united brotherhood... The only group free frok conflict and bloodshed. This is only possible with God's help... Until everyone accept Jehovah as sovereign, the world will get better.

Now, educate us on how atheism has, are and can make the world better regarding
1. Personal lifestyle
2. Family relationships
3. Morals
4. Global unity, peace and security
This is your chance to educate us and everyone here.


I know one 'benefit'
An atheist does not feel accountable to an higher power so they can pursue their immediate selfish interests like animals... No sense of purpose, no future, living for the moment like wild animals
1. It has been proven that JWs mol@st each other's kids, fvck each other's wives etc. This has been confirmed by numerous news reports and even by your publication from jw.org. So you can't say they are lies. So tell me how can those members live in peace?
2. Atheism isn't a religion. Which channel are you watching if the TV is switched off? Is this data too difficult to sink into your thick stvpid skulls?
Having said that, atheists are humanistic in nature. The 2 biggest philanthropists in the world, Warren Buffett and Bill Gates are agnostic/atheists. Bill Gates, for example, is often thought of as an atheist. He once said "In terms of doing things, I take a fairly scientific approach to why things happen and how they happen. I don't know if there's a god or not, but I think religious principles are quite valid".
Warren Buffett once described himself as "agnostic". Buffett and Gates are arguably the two greatest philanthropists of our age.
One of the greatest philanthropists of all time, Andrew Carnegie, is reputed to have said, "I don’t believe in God. My god is patriotism. Teach a man to be a good citizen and you have solved the problem of life"
Without Gates, Rotary and other philanthropist groups wouldn't have kicked Polio outside nigeria. Also Gates vaccines have helped eradicate many childhood diseases killing our children.

Gino Strada is a surgeon. Some 20 years ago he left the practice and founded Emergency - Sito Ufficiale - Home, a charity that creates hospitals in war zones. Two basic concepts behind Emergency’s hospital are that they must be open to anyone, regardless of their affiliation, and that the level of the services must be comparable to the services offered in any European or American hospital. In the past 20 years, Gino Strada has spent most of his time curing people in war zones, even though he is now 70. And yes, he is an atheist (which is not written with a capital letter).
http://www.emergency.it/index.html

One example is Bob Geldof who is an atheist. He was so outraged at millions of Ethiopians dying during a drought so he organized a charity single to raise money to help them. He then went on to organize the international Live Aid event which raised millions more & finally Live Eight as well. His contributions must have saved countless lives & he only did it because the lives of those people mattered to him. He didn’t do it to get into heaven or avoid a hell because he doesn’t believe in any afterlife. He did it because it mattered to him & as a Humanist he knew it really mattered to them. Isn’t that better than doing it because he simply wanted to get into heaven or avoid a hell? i.e. Because he did it for selfish reasons.

You can read about Philanthropist atheists here(but I wager you wont grin )
https://www.nydailynews.com/2012/05/04/atheists-more-generous-than-religious-when-helping-others-study/

From The above, you can see tangible actions done by atheists to better the world. Do you see them making noise about it? No!

3. You talked about global peace. Do you think professing global peace is gonna make everyone fall in line and become peaceful? Are you guys naive or just plain daft?

4. Lol. So atheists live like wild animals? Lollest. Pray tell me which countries have more crimes? Did it occur to your idiotic brain that theistic countries have more crime rates than atheistic ones. Latin America is known for drugs and violent crimes. But guess what? Its a catholic stronghold. Scandinavian countries, Japan, China etc have far less crime rates than them.

SO SHUT THE DUCK UP AND THANK ANY ATHEIST YOU SEE
Christianity EtcRe: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(op): 2:11pm On Sep 15, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
But we will be and continue to relate with peace lovers!
Look at my statement, then look at your reply. Are they related?
Do they syphon brains in those Kingdom Halls of yours?
Christianity EtcRe: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by jaephoenix(m): 4:12pm On Sep 14, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Come on shut up there! cheesy
The guy quoted me several times that's why i mentioned him too so face front! cheesy
He's called you a fraud. Rest nah
Christianity EtcRe: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by jaephoenix(m): 3:48pm On Sep 14, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Wèrè!
Are you the one i mentioned? cheesy
He has already told you to take a hike. So stop disturbing us with child mol@sters, rapists and gays
Christianity EtcRe: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(op): 3:47pm On Sep 14, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
What exactly are you trying to say because the thread is against peace loving worshipers! cheesy
As much as you lot don't wanna face the reality, the truth is everyone cant be peaceful. In driving they teach defensive driving because they know everyone can't be sane and careful. Thus they tell you assume everyone is crazy and drive defensively.
There must always be bloodthirsty folks, no matter how you teach people. Even in your midst of 'god's people', there are child mol@sters, gays etc. Thus not all of you guys have 'Yahweh character' or godly. Las las you cant control everyone. This is a fact y'all JW refuse to put into your thick stupid skulls. As much as you and I want peace, you won't always get it. Its human behavior to try and dominate the others


The debate isn't about firearms ownership. Its about you saying people don't just attack others. So don't deflect.
Armed robbers attack you. Same as law enforcements.
As a country made up of JWs don't you think u need to thank non JWs for saving your ignorant black ass from annihilation?
Christianity EtcRe: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(op): 3:45pm On Sep 14, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
If JWs aren't cohabitating peacefully why do you think the news that someone killed in the kingdom hall went far?
Did i call you out for questioning?
Aren't you the one looking for my trouble? cheesy
Please what has the bolded got to do with peaceful cohabitation amongst JWs?
Christianity EtcRe: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(op): 3:43pm On Sep 14, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
So is it carrying weapons that will stop them from being killed? cheesy
Irrelevant. For the second and last time, I didn’t say anyone should carry weapons. Please read my first post. And the post I clarified my point. I'm tired of repeating myself
Christianity EtcRe: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by jaephoenix(m): 3:39pm On Sep 14, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
Do you do things uniformly? Did you not also hear that the bible is written so that devils are cut off?
How is this crap related to my point?
Christianity EtcRe: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by jaephoenix(m): 3:38pm On Sep 14, 2023
SIRTee15:
Do u understand my question at all. Did I ask u for where God spoke in the bible or where the bible writers claimed they heard from God directly when they wrote down the bible...God dictated and we wrote it down.

So all those verse you copy and pasted, do u mean the authors wrote them down same time God was declaring those words ....is that what u saying.
If that's not the case then I don't understand the essence of your copy and paste.

Now let me teach u. The words written in bible are classified into 3 distinct references: The Word of God, the Words of God's Prophet and the Words of Men

It's not only the word of God that's in the bible. So the bible cannot be a dictation from God because it's not just his words that's in the book.

Do u get it now!!!
I thought u said Yahweh didn't say anything in the Bible.
Oga liar
Christianity EtcRe: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by jaephoenix(m): 3:36pm On Sep 14, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
I will be really glad if you can find anyone who is a PRIDE to CHRISTIANITY! cheesy
PLEASE SHUT IT!
WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN ANY JW BULLSHIT.
THANK YOU
Christianity EtcRe: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by jaephoenix(m): 3:35pm On Sep 14, 2023
SIRTee15:
Your point remain inconsequential if u cannot back it up with evidence.
And for a man u talk too much without any real substance.
Provide evidence about your claim, that's what I'm interested in.
U claim the Romans produced the bible, provide evidence. Just don't come here talking conspiracy theory.
What are this doctrines, who believed in them, when were they written, did the early Christians in the 1st century AD knew about this doctrines.
What were in the books that were rejected. What doctrines do they hold that made the Romans reject them.
Do we still have the books now, can we have a look to know what the controversy is all about.
Was there a bible b4 the Roman compiled one. What were the contents on the previous bible.
What about the dead sea scrolls, the Didache, the ketef hinnon scrolls, the tanakh, the Samaritan Pentateuch? Were they compiled by the Romans too? If yes, when?

Guy think like a scholar and talk like one. Not all these Roman wrote the bible and gave it to the pope to read out to Christians kind of talk. Leave that to kindergarten atheist.

Provide evidence...let's examine it. That's all I'm asking for.

As regards my previous posts. It's obvious u never went through them.
Most times I have to abandon the debate because u atheist are simply obstinate to the truth even when it's slapping u in the face.
There was a time jaephoenix started mentioning my name up and down in all threads even when I didn't debate him just because he wanted to win at all cost. Ask him.
Lol. Please who mentioned names here on this thread? Me or you? LIAR!
Imagine a theist asking for evidence. This is wonderful.
When there was no evidence any of the events in the Bible happened
Christianity EtcRe: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by jaephoenix(m): 3:31pm On Sep 14, 2023
SIRTee15:
I've debated u b4 and we both know how it ended.
In case u forgotten, u became dazed from persistent facts and inability to defend foolishness.
U ended up confusing me with someone else and lying to save face.

U called bible foolishness but u believe a concept that says a young innocent baby girl who is destined to end up a prostitute cannot do anything about it no matter how hard she tries.

So if that girl goes to a good school, raise in a lovely home, crime free neighbourhood, has good family values will still end up in brothel because it was her destiny to become a prostitute.

How above makes sense to a normal human being is beyond me
Even Muslims that has predestination written in their book are beginning to redefine it because they know it makes no sense.

I would rather embrace foolishness in the bible than believe in a stupid idea that I can't do anything about my future because it's already written.

I would rather believe in a book that tells me I can change my future for good just in the case of jabez; than believe a concept that claims the written past will always decide the future.

No wonder the best social value ever known to mankind is the Judeo-Christian value system.
I have debates with you and I have found youre a dummy.
1. So because I mistook another person's post as yours then automatically I was dazed? When in fact I was multitasking at that point. And you want to tell me you have never made that error before? Foooool.
2. I also found out you are empty. I remember that thread. It was about the errors in the Bible, and you couldnt counter a single bible error. Idiiiooot!
3. You also didn't know cancers have spontaneous remission and you were masquerading as a medical personnel. Scammerrr.
4. You are already trying to derail this thread like you did in that.
Please stick to the topic. Mumu
5. You obviously don't know what destiny is. Please pick up a dictionary, remove your religion tinted glasses and tell me what they say about destiny.
Christianity EtcRe: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(op): 3:18pm On Sep 14, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
What they only think about is technology when it comes to human relations atheism has nothing to offer.
So regarding a better world atheists don't have any vision on that in fact all they see is doom because they can't fathom how man can cohabit peacefully with his neighbour! smiley
1. Are All the JWs co-habiting peacefully with each other?
2. Are you co-habiting peacefully with me?
LOL. SEE IDIOTIC BEATCH
Christianity EtcRe: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(op): 3:17pm On Sep 14, 2023
Aemmyjah:
Atheism has destroyed his thinking faculties
Atleast, he's assured that no JW even the one he opposes will attack him
Awon survival of the fittest will do that and religious hypocrites/bigots

Atheist claiming humanity first will be pleased to kill fellow atheist like Jaephoenix in the name of national or other interests

Intelligent Jaephoenix should teach us how atheism will make the world a better place especially in this era where the weapons people are making can destroy whole earth
How is JW making the world a better place? Pray tell cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(op): 3:16pm On Sep 14, 2023
Aemmyjah:
Your assumption is stupid entirely
We don't take affairs of any politics or social group whether in a country or in a village

It is [b]impossible for any country, even the smallest of island to convert to JWs[/b]
We seek to change the hearts of men towards God, not to use religion as a political tool for governance like the Catholics did

As foretold, time is coming when all the earth will be filled with sincere worshippers of Jehovah and then, all the wicked (those who don't accept Jehovah as universal sovereign and Jesus Christ as king) will be destroyed forever

Let God guide man's affairs
Your illustration is like asking me what I will do if I see my mum or mu wife trying to sell our children... Foolish imagination from rotten brain. Something that will never happen
Oh really? So what is the essence of your door to door evangelism if not to 'convert all souls to Jehovah'?
So are you saying your evangelism is useless since its not meant to convert souls to JW? grin
Christianity EtcRe: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(op): 3:13pm On Sep 14, 2023
Aemmyjah:
You are the biggest Olodo on Nairaland
See who says that ECHR view is irrelevant?
Russia may not listen to their judgements, it is their own problem
Their view would have been relevant to you if they support the ban cheesy grin grin grin
This guy has no brains.
Are Ukrainians dying almost everyday? Yes.
Does the ECHR (or whatever) prevent them from getting killed? No.
So of what relevance is it to their lives?
You're the biggest iiddiot on Nairaland
Christianity EtcRe: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(op): 3:12pm On Sep 14, 2023
Aemmyjah:
Of you like, quote Dube
Go and find them on the internet the way you desperately find junkie about us
There's lots of them both local and international
Lol. I should go online to confirm an obvious lie you told? Are you usually this clueless and stupid everyday?
Christianity EtcRe: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(op): 3:03pm On Sep 14, 2023
Aemmyjah:
JWs have never had and never will have anything to do with the political affairs of mankind as their days are already counted
Even our opposers knows that except ignorant Jaephoenix
Instead of you to deny what i said, you were tormented
So if a country is 99% JW, there won't be a JW President? You guys would allow the 1% rule you? Yes or no? grin
Christianity EtcRe: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(op): 3:02pm On Sep 14, 2023
Since 1995, the rate at which Jehovah's Witnesses were growing started to decline, coinciding with the change of the Generation Doctrine, and internet access to information regarding the religion and its teachings. The most dramatic change has been the number of hours of preaching required to gain a new member. In 2022, over 10,000 hours of preaching was required for a single baptism, and due to the number of Jehovah's Witnesses leaving or dying, it took 40,000 hours of preaching for the number of Jehovah's Witnesses to increase by just 1 person

https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/statistics.php


Jehovah’s Witnesses have a low retention rate relative to other U.S. religious groups. Among all U.S. adults who were raised as Jehovah’s Witnesses, two-thirds (66%) no longer identify with the group.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2016/04/26/a-closer-look-at-jehovahs-witnesses-living-in-the-u-s/#:~:text=Jehovah's%20Witnesses%20have%20a%20low,longer%20identify%20with%20the%20group.
Christianity EtcRe: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(op): 2:55pm On Sep 14, 2023
Aemmyjah:
Our meetings attendance
Convention attendance
Baptismal attendance
Everything about us is on the increase
Everyone knows how Jehovah's Witnesses takes their records seriously

Werey will quote from apostate articles
I hope you will find one that says we are even burning down all our KH and our numbers in Nigeria are less than a thousand. People like you will swallow it
Lol. I brought my evidence. Was expecting you to bring yours, and you're still spouting gibberish. Same way you said the news about you guys child mol@station was apostate til MadMax and your own jw.org confirmed it, then you kept quiet. Now you're saying the same about this. You're waiting for your Humble Leader MadMax and your gods jw.org to confirm this one abi? Lol. Don't worry
Christianity EtcRe: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(op): 2:52pm On Sep 14, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ you don't ask people questions and start telling them not to express their views whether you like it or not you came to them not the other way around.
It's madness on your part to call people ask them questions and say you don't want their views! wink
So if you go for an interview, and they ask you your name and you tell me your age, they should entertain your views, right?
You are a first class dunce. Please stick to the topic
Christianity EtcRe: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(op): 2:46pm On Sep 14, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
If you're not stupid you should know by now that people don't just wake up and train with weapons only to start going after people who are defenseless.
Jesus taught us not to accumulate things that will attract thieves {Matthew 5:19-21} so is it the common thing in my possession that someone will train himself with weapons to come and kill me for?
Why can't you just use your brain for once nah?
Is this your atheism killing your brain cells?
Ọmọ listen and listen good when you live a simple life in places where others like you live nobody will undergo training with weapons to come and hunt you because what you posses is common.
Do you get it now? smiley
This guy! Lol 😆
Please what goods have the innocent Ukrainians that has been killed, or the 8 JWs slaughtered in your Kingdom Hall in Germany acquired that warranted them to be killed?
You see why I said going near your Kingdom Hall Meetings kills off brain cells grin
Christianity EtcRe: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(op): 2:02am On Sep 14, 2023
Janosky:
2 Corinthians 11:23
. 23 Are they servants of Christ? I know I sound like a madman, but I have served him far more! I have worked harder, been put in prison more often, been whipped times without number, and faced death again and again. 24 Five different times the Jewish leaders gave me thirty-nine lashes. 25 Three times I was beaten with rods. Once I was stoned. Three times I was shipwrecked. Once I spent a whole night and a day adrift at sea. 26 I have traveled on many long journeys. I have faced danger from rivers and from robbers. I have faced danger from my own people, the Jews, as well as from the Gentiles. I have faced danger in the cities, in the deserts, and on the seas. And I have faced danger from men who claim to be believers but are not".

Oga, whom did Paul fight against for the maltreatment they gave to him?
He didn't fight anyone.
Again look at the first post on this thread. Does this your rebuttal address it? If it does, can you explain the relationship?
Christianity EtcRe: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(op): 1:59am On Sep 14, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
The topic of your thread says:

Questions for JWs and other pacifist organizations

How can you ask people question yet you say you're not talking about their views?

Thank God i'm not an atheist!cheesy
Because your views have nothing to do with the questions. Someone is asking you A, you're discussing Z. So stick to the topic
Christianity EtcRe: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(op): 1:58am On Sep 14, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Use your brain nah! cheesy

Protecting me from who? cheesy

My own brothers and sisters in Christ will not raise weapons against anyone so if anyone say he wants to protect then such one is doing it to fight his own brothers and sisters who want to attack others.
So if you're a soldier it simply means you're fighting your kind who still believe in carrying weapons not my own kind.

Do you get it now? cheesy
Protecting you from enemies who will perceive you a weakling cos you won't carry arms to defend yourself.
Is this lil piece of fact too complex for your Watchtower-addled trash can you call a brain?
Christianity EtcRe: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(op): 4:08pm On Sep 13, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Then what brought JWs into the topic?

Hope you're still with your senses? smiley
Please reread the first post on this thread. This time with your brain switched on
Christianity EtcRe: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(op): 4:08pm On Sep 13, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
This is what makes you people really really stupid because i will never ever fight in support of one man to kill another man.

Do you now see how low your IQ? grin
Derailer, I'm not asking you to fight and kill another man. I'm asking you to concede that you owe non JW a vote of thanks for protecting you.
As much as you lot don't wanna face the reality, the truth is everyone cant be peaceful. In driving they teach defensive driving because they know everyone can't be sane and careful. Thus they tell you assume everyone is crazy and drive defensively.
There must always be bloodthirsty folks, no matter how you teach people. Even in your midst of 'god's people', there are child mol@sters, gays etc. Thus not all of you guys have 'Yahweh character' or godly. Las las you cant control everyone. This is a fact y'all JW refuse to put into your thick stupid skulls. As much as you and I want peace, you won't always get it. Its human behavior to try and dominate the others
Christianity EtcRe: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(op): 3:30pm On Sep 13, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Whatever makes people from different races agree to be peaceful and many like you chose to be killers then peaceful people should be separated from killers.

Ọmọ that's what God is coming to do! Revelations 11:18
Another fallacy. Please stick to the topic. We are not talking about JW views
Christianity EtcRe: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(op): 3:28pm On Sep 13, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
FOOL!

If the world is filled with Jehovah's Witnesses there will be no more weapons or wars!

That's what you should think stupid atheist! cheesy
Lol. Is that the question I asked?
Please eat properly, drink water and reread my question. Thank you

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