₦airaland Forum

blueAgent:
A kid for not having enough real life experiences.

Do you believe occult powers exist?

No I don't.
Bro, its like this. Anything you want me to believe, you should bring evidence for its existence. Savvy!?

Myer:
If indeed you have peace of mind and joy outside Christ, then you're fine. The gospel is for the rest of us who are empty without Him.

Oh cool then

nairamaniac:
My first convictions about the existence of God are through the things I have asked of him and he has given to me or done for me.


Even if I don't get a million more things of what I get, I hold on to the ones I have gotten.

The world is prone to harzards and outbreaks due to biological and scientific reactions.

As a believer I only know the power of the Lord is above all those things.

Some posts ago, you were certain it was your god that created everything on earth. Then I reminded you about some of the bad stuff he created, and in a heartbeat you switched the creation stick from yahweh to science. All by yourself.
By the way do you know I pray to my phone everyday, and it has given me riches. Even though I don't get millions, its still enough. My phone is a wonderful god. Sounds familiar?

nairamaniac:
God is the giver of all things.

Natural resources are blessings from God, irrespective of the beliefs of the citizens in those countries.
And those that believe in God in those Countries still give him the Glory for those blessings.

As much as we pray for God to change the mind of the leaders, so that the oil money gets to us. We also pray for other means, like allowing us to have the right-leader on Top.

As much as the wicked leaders are enjoying.

We pray they change their ways either through Love or pains.

1. Its of no use asking you to prove your god gives natural resources. Even though there's absolutely no proof, it doesn't stop you or other religious kooks from saying their favorite sky daddy created everything.
By the way, if you say your skydaddy created everything, then he's an arsehole for creating anthrax, Ebola, Lassa etc
2. Youve been praying for close to 70 years for this country but it keeps getting worse year after year. A sensible person would ask questions why, but not you lot. You guys are wonderful souls

Ginomel:
Lol. God does not ignore prayers, he answers all but probably it's too mysterious to understand the hidden answers.

Really? Yahweh answers all prayers and Nigeria is like this? Getting worse year after year?
Lol.
By the way, what is 'mysterious' about the hidden answers? What gibberish is that?

blueAgent:
That's why I say you are a Kid.
Sorry for that.

A kid for not believing your illusion? Lol. No p

Myer:
Do you believe in God?
If Yes, what do you think is the gospel?
If No, do you have peace of mind and joy?

Nope. I don't believe in your god, or any other supernatural being. I'm my own god. I serve myself.
And yes, I do have peace of mind and joy?
I wonder why you think atheists have no peace of mind. It is known Scandinavian people and Chinese enjoy life better than Africans, especially Nigerians. And a gold percentage of them are atheists

1Sharon:
Explain why Nigeria has one of the lowest life expectancies despite being the 2nd most prayerful country on earth.

The people that made those research didn't do a double blinded analysis and obviously had a tiny research population. 2 reasons why their researches can't be taken serious by the
scientific community

Ginomel:
When you are disturbing the neighbourhood? That's not the prayer our Lord taught us.

He said enter your room silently and call upon him.

Anything outside that is hypocrisy

Ok. Lets assume Yahweh ignores the loud prayers (like you insinuated), but what about the quiet prayers he has been ignoring for nearly 7 decades?

blueAgent:
When you have real life experience that is beyond the physical you would understand.

Im in my mid forties, yet haven’t seen any supernatural bullshit. What else have you gotta say?

Myer:
Most Nigerians today are idol worshippers.
Our generation of Nigerians worship the God of money- Mammon and not the Almighty God.
Which is why Propserity gospel sells here not Gospel of Jesus Christ Crucified.
When was the last time you heard a believer say they're genuinely born again?

But by God's Grace, we are transitioning from idolatry and Reigion to Godliness.

Lol. Yet Yahweh continues blessing atheistic countries who rebel against him and worship money, but ignore Nigeria which still have some christians like you that worship him.
Jokes on you, buddy

CloudTrees:
Its my account and I praying to God to send me an helper to solve my challenges.
I put my faith in him.

You mean Yahweh isn't powerful enough to do stuff on his own? He relies on iffy mortals to do his biddings?

dinomcjohn:
It is advisable to have and go with tyres in good condition. That's for sure. However, no matter your logic or carefulness or expertise in driving, one thing is sure: we all need God's protection. How do you protect yourself from a drunk driver trying to hit you from the back or from any unexpected vehicle whose driver has list control.

The summary: God is good and He is ever faithful. Let's put our trust in Him. Some things are clearly beyond our control. With God, we are certainly well protected.

Quick question. How do you know someone that is under Yahweh's protection?

Emusan:
See how he ignored my question

Actually, I answered your question with one of my statements below.

So you would take an old tire even though it's well known that they are prone to blowouts much more than brand new?

If you are smart(which I doubt youre) you'd have seen I not only answered your question but explained. Below are the causes of tire blowouts ranked in order of importance
1. Old tires
2. Underinflation
3. Overloading
4. Rough terrain /foreign objects in the road
5. High ambient temperatures in combination with 1 or more of the above.
From above, you'd note that your precious old tires can kill you. Yes, new tires can blow but then chances are way lower than the old.

Emusan:
I've used both brand new and old tires for long journey.

The truth is, I never place my hope on any.

Now, answer my question, can a brand new tire burst?

So you would take an old tire even though it's well known that they are prone to blowouts much more than brand new?
I love theists. You guys are da bomb(pun intended)

koldon2004:
May God bless you all.

Certainly, I wanted to get a new tyre but the place we were was far from when this was available. We met a vulcanizer around the place to fix the extra tyre. The intention was to leave the place quickly because night was fat approaching. I certainly intended getting another tyre upon getting home. I would have gotten another tyre but it was unavailable right there. We were in a journey. Yes, we are not perfect. We could have made mistakes. We all do. Lessons well learnt. However, whether good or bad tyres, accidents are beyond the control of any human, no matter your carefulness or years of experience in driving. Above all, what matters is the grace of God.

The highlight of my testimony is this: God is good. God in great...infinitely great. God is forever awesome...forever glorious. To Him be all the praise, thanks and glory forever. Amen

When I was learning to drive, I took my new car and drove off. 10 minutes later, I ended up in a ditch, unhurt. But my car axle and shaft were broken, along with the tie rod. I was already an atheist then.
Question 1)
a. How did I manage to survive without a scratch even though the car was worse off and I hit a tree in the big ditch.
Question b and c would come as you tackle question 1a.
Thank you

Emusan:
So, why did you respond to my post that way?



No! But I also want you to know that a brand new tire can also burst.



Even good tires can burst.



You're the one who needs to wake up from your slumber because people thank God for what they believe Him for. You can thank your tires if you believe it saved you.

If you are going on a long road trip and given a choice of brand new or old tires, which would you use and why? Its a direct question. No bush beating please

LordReed:
So to you the solution to a bad tire bursting is to keep using bad tires? The solution is not to get good tires? Someone is still sleeping with their eyes open it seems. LoLz!

You're dealing with theists here. Logic isn't one of their best suits

Major7:
You can't analyse the things of the spirit using logic,you will ended up being confused cos it will make little or no sense. My quote was meant for those that operates in the realm of the spirit no offense

Translation: I don't know what I'm saying and I can't back my post with facts, so lemme resort to the 'its spiritual' excuse, and run away.
As if you came into the world with the ability to operate 'spiritually'

blueAgent:
Like I said b4, you are a kid not in terms of age but experience.

You dey learn.

Lol. I learn? What experience do you have?

ufotunang:
...ok no problem...I thought you will say after you have prayed , then God will come down from heaven to give you money and food to eat..... and all those word of God written in the Bible were not written by scammers...God directed them on what to write...the Bible is not fake...but to achieve or get all those good things written in the Bible. the person must wok... apply some work....all those good things written in the Bible... and the chapter and bible verses you showed me above, all those things will not come in a platter of gold...the person must still apply some work to achieve them

1. Oh the bible was a copied fiction from many sources which includes Epic of Gilgamesh, Hammurabi Code etc. And it was poorly compiled, edited, re-edited several times to suit the taste of their many authors who include slave dealers etc. Was slavery denounced by the bible? Nope. The 10 commandments pretended it never existed. But other crimes like murders, lying etc were all castigate with punishments attached o them.
And of course as it is edited, there are lots of mistakes, contradictions(like the one I pointed out) and lies littered in it. A divinely inspired book wouldn't have those maladies.

2. You're still sticking to your gun about working after praying when you can it is clearly stated that if you ask you shall receive

nairamaniac:
We the masses pray for Wealth upon our dear country Nigeria.

God blessed us with crude oil.

The oil is sold for billions of dollars.


The richmen eat all the dollars.
By that, they have monopolized the dividends of our prayers.

God doesn't sit back. He punishes them in his own ways even without us knowing when&how.

1. Corrections, Yahweh didn’t give Nigeria oil. Its a natural resource which many other irreligious countries received.
2. Part of the prayers people pray is for Yahweh to change the leaders mind so these oil dollars get to them. But guess what? Yahweh has ignored that part of the prayers. He doesn't just give a praying fvck about where the money goes.
3. How exactly does Yahweh punish those corrupt politicians/leaders?
Last I check, they live in big mansions, drive the exotic cars, get the best women, have kids schooling abroad, have access to best healthcare etc

Ginomel:
To me, such prayer is useless when someone simply refused that others will sleep. Nigerians and their mentality

Its still a prayer nevertheless. And you are not in a position to say which prayers are useless or not. You're not the recipient(Yahweh)

Myer:
1. He respects our right to choose. He gave us will power so that we are not like robots.
We can choose to obey or disobey. We can choose to submit to authority or rebel against authorrity. We can choose life or death. We can choose to forgive or nor forgive and we can choose to repent or not repent, we can choose to love or hate. Etc
Each choice bearing its commensurate consequences.

2. Most of them don't believe in God. They can have no peace of mind or joy. They depend on things, substances, events for solace.

3. Is rebellion against divine order. It does not obey the blessing of fruitfulness. It corrupts others.

4. There's a spiritual transition from religion to Christ-likeness/Godliness. And there's a manifestation of it in various spheres/sectors of the country- Political, Business, Academical, Social etc.

1. Again, (like most Christians) you completely deviated from the point. Lemme repeat. According to you, Yahweh blessed those countries when they were worshipping him but they eventually stopped doing it. Does it mean Yahweh didn’t know they would rebel? Also is Yahweh still blessing them currently?

2. Really? Non religious people depend on drugs for joy? I’m aware they use drugs but some of those countries don't use as much drugs as Nigerians. Are you aware Nigerians use recreation drugs too? Is it atheists that use crystal meth(meth) in Nigeria?
Where is your stats that back your claim? Or are you those that get their knowledge from their pastors?

3. Obviously some people dont give diving fvcks about divine order. Neither do i. What is the advantage of heeding this divine order?

4. Nigeria transitioning to godliness with the increasing level of corruption, prostitution, robbery, online fraud etc. You dey whine me ni?

Zigiblaze:
You can move there with your high IQ, you can as well practice what they do.

Yet you are ready to jump into those gay tolerant countries in a heartbeat

notttty:
You call him an idiot because he stands against your likes that want the traditional values we go left to be thrown out because your likes like the unethical sequel ways you all learn from the west. Gay is alien to us all

Please use a dictionary. Gay has other meanings that were used. I'm sure you don't even know them

The bible was the first book I heard about homosexuality or incest. In fact its very first book, Genesis was replete with it. Are they gonna ban it? Hell no! But they'll come after any other book that dare mentions homo. Hypocrites!
Some US states have already banned the bible for this reasons

godwon01:
Stop abusing me Ok. Medical profession is a noble one and as a professional you don't abuse. As part of the code of conduct , you are supposed to be tolerant. That is my thought and if you are submitting your views, you need to be objective and tolerant. I belong to the profession and I am very humble in my practice. You don't need to impose your write up on me as the right answer. When you were in the college of medicine , do you argue patient case note the same during ward round. When a consultant is doing ward round , during your housemanship, do you expect your colleagues to present their views as yours. What is the reason for MTD meeting. This is a forum that brings diverse professionals together and we are here to share opinions. You behave.

Where did I abuse you, sire?

blueAgent:
Stop punching above your weight.

If prayers don work for you, there are millions of ppl it works for.

Who are the millions? Nigerians?
Bro, I haven't uttered a word of prayer for more than 2 decades yet not only am I alive, but I feed people that pray everyday. I look at them and laugh but I can't knock them cos they are my family and I love them despite their stupidity

Ginomel:
Yeah I read it. That doesn't mean they don't pray. Yes you are correct they don't pray like Nigerians

Lol. Nigerians are even do the loudest prayers. My neighbor would wake up by 3am to pray, disturbing the whole block. And doesn't care if s/he wakes up everyone. In those sane countries that don't like prayers, they'll call the cops on him or her. Yet all those prayers are useless

ufotunang:
.. righteousness exalt eth a nation.... nowadays how many people are righteous...how many country or nation have many people that are righteous... As the devil is in this Earth and still operating and making people to backslide and commit sins we will not have much righteous people...rlook at the world now we have a lot of sinners and evils going on in the world and countries...so how do you expect a nation to be exalted when they are lot of sinners in that country, nation , the government, politcians are sinners ,hardly to see a righteous person nowadays in many countries.....so because of sins , sinners and evils in many countries countries cannot be exalted...so the government and people have to work to develop the country and make it better due to no much of righteous people and righteousness...so because of what Adam and Eve did in the garden of Eden and sinned and disobeyed God...it annoyed God and God and told Adam before you will eat you will till the ground and farm to get food to eat.. that is too work to eat..he told eve that you will feel pains when you want to give birth to children... In the first place when God created the earth God did not want people to work while in the earth...but because of what Adam and Eve did in the garden of Eden and sinned and disobeyed God...this made people to start to work to eat and earn a living...the earth would had been a paradise a place where people would not need to work hard and hustle if Adam and Eve did not disobey ..God and people would not had work to eat.. and they would had been no evil and sin in the earth...

This is getting funnier

Who gave Satan his omnipotent, omniscient etc powers? Yahweh!
Who created Eden and the tree of knowledge and planted it right in the middle of the garden(not even at the outskirts where it would be out of sight of Adam and Eve) and made it have luscious fruits? Yahweh!
Do you now understand your all loving god wanted Adam fvcked from the get-go?
So lets from go to genesis.
So Yahweh created the whole world, right?
There's Eden. He then made a tree of knowledge, and guess what? Planted it right in the middle of the garden. Yahweh knew Adam was gonna fail but planted this forbidden tree right in the middle of the garden with luscious fruits, to distract and tempt Adam. Gave him a partner that would make the temptation very hard to pass up. Then to make matters worse, he allowed Satan(an omnipresent and omnipotent being) to finish the job of tempting Adam? Then when man fails, he turns around to blame him of making the wrong choice? And then went ahead to rain curses in the poor dude.
Are you seeing how Yahweh stacked up the odds against poor Adam. Almost as if he wants the dude to fail.

Here is an analogy. You(yahweh) sent your son(Adam) to school(garden of eden) and paid a bully(Satan) to distract and beat the child, so he'll fail in school? I used the word 'paid' because he Satan is an upgraded being, having those powers handed to him by Yahweh. Whats his target? A puny Adam, a regular mortal with no powers whatsoever

nairamaniac:
yes, try are monopolizing the dividends of our prayers.

Lol. So god answers your prayers and another person enjoys the dividends of those prayers while god sits back and enjoys? How do people monopolize prayers? Please explain