₦airaland Forum

Eniolohunda:
God bless you for your deep thinking, when I say Nigerian Doctors are greedy too, nairalander may bash me. Their anesthesia counterparts opt out of 24hrs, they are doing great. But you see those, that want to be seen as the only one working in health sector

No doctor opts out of call duties,unless he is sick,and even at that,u have to find a cover

Eniolohunda:
Nigeria like sensations. Doctor approved their own working hours. They can always adjust it, if they feel it's no longer good for them. I know Nigeria anesthesia doctors pull out of that nonsense long working hours, whenever they finished their call, they go home. But their counterparts wants to maximize their earnings, Nigeria doctors are one of the greedy set in the country.

We are not talking about extra duty,Mr.Man. We are talking call duty. One can alsays opt out of extra duties but not call duties. Try and educate yourself before embarrassing ur generation

Bylaw:
No u rather don't know anything because how can ur eyes be opened for 24hrs straight without sleeping?
That means as a doctor and u agreed to such condition without a gun to ur head then u have ur head examine because u are playing with high blood pressure, heart disease and soo many unspeakable things

Yes,my eyes stay open for 24hrs straight! U think we are lying right? Ask any doctor. And no,we didn't know it would be this bad. If we had known,we wouldn't have joined in

KennethOkonkwo:
Somebody is not making sense here.


You have probably waited for doctor in a clinic before and he arrived by 10am to 11am.
What most people don't know is that,Doctors works do more than seeing you in the clinic.
They do ward rounds which you can not even tell how long it will last,Morning accademic meetings which include CME and Morbidity and mortality meetings,procedures which could be planned or unplanned.Sometimes they do these things in the morning before they show up at your bed or at the clinic while you are waiting.
Also,when you see them living the clinic by 1pm,Not as if they are going home all the time,they continue with some of these activities.

Don't mind the buzzard. As a house officer,we do ward rounds from 7am til 10 am,then go for clinic from 10am til 4pm. Then call duty from 4pm til the next day. God bless you if you have theater....

yemmit90:
A pure lies, majorty of doctors at federal teaching hospitals are lazy and mostly care less about the patients. I can't forget how their laziness and lack of prompt treatments lead to the death of patients.

And if I ask you what happened that led to the death,u will start lying just to castigate doctors

Bylaw:
Do you mean 12hrs straight or 72 hours straight?
I don't understand.

Is there anywhere in Nigeria you will be asked to continue working from day one 12hrs then continue 12hrs night then thr cycle continues till 72hrs?
You no baf? Freshen up etc?

Lol 😆
U don't know anything. Doctor call rooms have bathrooms. Sometimes you don't even bathe after ward rounds but dive into clinic the next day

creolehunt:
Well, tens of thousands of doctors are inducted yearly too. Trust me, the number of migrating doctors is very negligible compared to the numbers produced.

That said, it's not easy to also migrate. The process is very tedious and cumbersome.

So, we should relax with this talk of brain drain. There are still many doctors unemployed and underemployed littered around.

U r deluded. First things first, the number of doctors inducted are nowhere near that number. In fact,the number of medical students aren't even up to tens of thousands, never mind the graduating doctors.
Secondly the ones graduating are already writing exams to leave. I remember back in my time,we dream to be consultants after med school,leaving the country was rare. But now, most of the doctors are writing foreign exams during housejob and NYSC. So even with the numbers graduating, only few make it to the Nigerian populace. Most are consumed by brain drain

omoadeleye:
Doctors is government hospitals doesn't really stress themselves at work as you people envisaged them

Doctors are driven by their selfish interests when working in government hospitals

There are doctors that rarely visit the clinic or mostly doctors can go on two month leave and when they resume to clinic they only just sit down while mostly work are done by the nurses.

The only time a doctor get to work themselves out is when they go out to do their own private Jobs in private hospitals.

So you people should stop being selfish to blame government at every woes commited by an individual

I wonder how someone would sit in their house and concoct lies just to discredit a profession. I did my house job in UPTH and I worked like a donkey. I'm sure you say a call duty rooster where a doctor was on duty the whole month. You think he was in his house all that time? Also who do you think attends to all that crowd in government hospitals? Ghosts? I know you hate doctors (for whatever reasons) but try to speak the truth and not lies you heard from diabolical folks or you concocted

Carl99:
Glory hunter ke. As how naww😂
On paper Arsenal were the better team.

But Liverpool had the grit. Love your passion regardless. Peace out

Can you explain how Arsenal was a better team in paper?

DeOTR:
Arsenal always have the higher possession in most games. It's not new.

No sire. Arsenal was dominated in possession

Originalsly:
I'm neither a doctor nor an HCP ...not in the medical field period ... but should this be taken that I'm ignoring of all things medical? I don't need to understand how microorganisms work before I can comment on viruses. Viruses constantly mutate .... if I understand what it means to mutate I don't need to understand the process of mutation before I can comment on viruses as per this discussion. (Note... I'm responding directly to points and questions to raised in your comment ...while you keep dodging mine.) Let's take the Polio virus as an example .... like other viruses it constantly mutates. How do you explain that we take one non mRNA Polio vaccine as a child ...and become immune to all the mutated variations of the virus? We have been successfully combating mutations for yearssss so why ask how do we combat this? I can understand if you say mRNA is another method of doing same....but it is not. How can you claim mRNA is the solution when it is ineffective? Millions have taken it ...more than once ...and still contracting the virus. Explain this to me.

1. What do u mean I'm dodging ur comment?
2. Mrna is a type of protein possessed by viruses. There's DNA and Mrna viruses. I don't understand what u mean
3. Also Polio is an mrna virus. So I don't know what u mean by non mrna polio

AngelahFlo:
If only they'll listen and keep the advice. Instead they'll argue blindly with you and wonder at your "Ignorance" as if they're the more informed ones. Rada rada

U r the ignorant one. What is the problem with lab grown food and GMO food

Originalsly:
Vaccines offer immunity to any strain of a particular virus.... as in one takes a Polio vaccine and he becomes immune to various strains as the virus keeps mutating. mRNA targets a particular strain of the virus ... so one has to keep getting the shots to fight each strain...the reason people kept getting shot after shot...boost after boost but keep contracting the disease. How can this be a vaccine if it does not give immunity to that family of virus? When this was being made an issue ... that it is not a vaccine ...they changed the definition of a vaccine to include mRNA shots. It is the reason I suggest you look in any book.... 1900 ....1950 ...2005 ...2019 ....the definition of vaccine remained the same.

First things first,you need to understand how micro organisms work. I don't think you're a doctor,never mind a HCP but at least you can educate yourself on the internet. These microbes especially viruses change their coat or protein to avoid the body immune system, drugs or vaccines. This is called mutation and causes resistance. So how do we combat this? Mrna vaccines!
Okay. Let me just assume(for the sake of this conversation) that the definition of vaccines was changed. Why do you have a problem with it? The definition of many concepts have been changed over years as scientific knowledge of those concepts increase. Vaccination and immunity is one of those concepts

Originalsly:
A vaccine makes one immune to a virus. Had Polio vaccine?...just once...and the body becomes immune to it .. regardless of its constant mutation. Does mRNA vaccines make one immune to the targeted virus? ...as in COVID-19 vaccines?

All vaccines confers some immunity to a micro organism. This is acquired immunity and happens irrespective whether mrna or otherwise. I hope this helps

AngelahFlo:
Amazing!!!
I'd have love to know where you got this information from but...I realized that you simply don't know or you've been preset in your mind to believe delusions. Chai!!!
Chai!!!
It's so sad. Before you present an answer always think before you write. Where in God's name is a GMO food better than the original?[/color]

I marvel at the ignorance on display on Nairaland on a daily basis. And u guys claim to be graduates instead doing simple Google checks u spew trash

AngelahFlo:
So true
Imagine the Doctor saying that the company approached Bill Gates to help them raise 50 million and He raised 10 million out of his money to help fund this business. I made him realize that Mr Bill Gates must be aware of what his money is used for but he defended the man

So how do you know Gates is aware? Are you his lawyer or assistant?

AngelahFlo:
Define it all you want. As long as it's not made the natural way. To me it's unhealthy. End..Of...Story..
Don't bother arguing with me cos there's no argument that you're gonna present that'll fly with me in this instance. It looks like butter
Tastes like butter
Smells like butter
Does it add more nutritional value to the body?!!
What nonsense. Next thing you'll tell me the GMO meat now out is better than the real one. Don't even start with your argument. Keep enjoying your Genetically modified nonsense and leave us to stick with our dairy product version while we still have it.

Yes GMOs can be nutritionally better than organic foods. My problem with you lots is you never research. You depend on others for information

justli:
Apparently you can't understand data analysis and that's not my fault

So what he buys up land? There are other billionaires like Bezos,Turner,Emmet etc buying up land for agriculture, real estate. What's your point?

Originalsly:
Why post this when I said the definition on Google has been changed to fit the narrative? ... to include mRNA which is not a vaccine. Isn't it the reason they refer to it as a shot? ...or a shot and a vaccine are the same?I'm still waiting for you to explain in your own words for the definition and the purpose of a vaccine .

A shot and a vaccine are the same thing. In fact in the UK,we refer to vaccines as shots.
Definitions change regularly and it doesn't mean anything. Definitions change as scientists understand nature more. For example an atom was defined as the smallest substance known but that has changed. BUT IN THE CASE OF VACCINES THE DEFINITION HAS NOT CHANGED. I don't need to define vaccines in my own words when the definition is out there

yinkeys:
Didnt know there a large number of d nmb doctors that lack social intelligence
I mean they can be deceived easily by a con artist
They do everything by the book & think that’s how the world works
It’s either laughable or they just choose to be evil even after taking oath

Why do u think so

justli:
From the attached, you can see he is the largest private farmland owner. The question is why is he aggressively buying out farmers and dictating to the world what we can eat and not eat.

I assume u r a graduate and can read and write. The sc I sent said Emmerson owns millions of acres while Gates owns only 270k. Which one is bigger

yinkeys:
I hope you took all the Covid vaccine doses

Yup. Any problems

AngelahFlo:
Doctor are you telling me that because of the amount of greenhouse gasses it takes to produce natural butter, you'd buy a genetically modified version that you know isn't healthy for human consumption?

Who told u this butter is unhealthy? What is all this

Originalsly:
I'm not making up the definition of a vaccine .... check any book printed before COVID-19 ... and you will see basically the same definition. Check Google you will find a different definition... one that was made up to go along with the narrative. In your own words... what's the purpose of a vaccination? Did COVID-19 "vaccine" carry out that function? It tampering with nature because the immune system is being manipulated by outside forces.

This is the definition of a vaccine for centuries. As you can see the definition encompasses mrna. Also definitions can change over time. It doesn't have to be stuck over centuries. That's the beauty of science

Mirasteel:
I will boycott everything that has to do with them, if you people like don't listen, these white people will keep using you guys for experiments.

Lol. I guess u boycotted all the vaccines and would boycott the malaria vaccine too. Good luck Mr Boy Scout

toprealman:
You mean the same guy that hoodwinked the whole world to upgrade their Microsoft ish in 1999 because according to your messiah, his softwares are not programmed for 2000 ish despite knowing it was a big time yahoo format!
That’s your guy!

That's a lie. Stop all these lies

Originalsly:
Vaccines do not tamper with nature ...your natural immunity. Vaccines introduce your immune system to that particular virus and the system figures out a way to identify any form or strain of that virus ...attack and kill it if it enters the body. For this reason .. by definition ...a vaccine must contain part of the virus ..... if not it is not a vaccine. It is the reason we take vaccines once ...and it lasts a lifetime ... Awe become immune to any natural form of that virus. How is that tampering with the body or nature? Explain and take me out of my ignorance.use

mRNA "vaccines"like COVID-19...are not vaccines. The m is for message to one's RNA .. and this controls your immune system....pretty much like hacking a computer That's tampering with nature. Didn't they explain how it works?...it sends a message to the immune system to produce a spike protein like that of the COVID virus. Isn't it clear they control the immune system via such vaccines? And we wonder why people who took that "shot" are th ones that keep being affected by the virus over and over again and having blood related problems. They tampered with nature and things went out of control.

1. So when a part of a micro organism is introduced into the body,it's not tampering with nature? Really? Do you even understand the definition of a natural event?
2. So u r now the scientist in charge of defining vaccines by saying mrna vaccines aren't vaccines? Lol 😆
3. I took the covid shot and boosters and I'm good. And so are many others. U guys are so full of it

Breaker001:
Whether he was "begged" to fund it or not, Bill Gates is widely known for pushing for, and funding population control schemes. So whether it's GMOs or"carbon" butter, anything he funds that is not computer related is a suspect 😎

Which population control schemes is he pushing

BreakingNews21:
I wish you good health and not be a statistic of the vastly growing cancer epidemic proliferation around the world.

Thank you