₦airaland Forum

frog12:
so he go come out and tell you straight?

so your senator go admit say him be ritualist and kidnapper?

So lemme get this straight.
There are unfounded claims about the guy,which has been debunked. You have absolutely no fact or evidence to support the claims, yet you believe them wholeheartedly despite the guy'sphilanthropy? Whoa! You're a wonderful fellow. I have nothing else to say to you

Kemetian:
Are you aware that Bill Gates is a eugenicist?

Are you aware that eugenicists are white supremacists who think the world is overpopulated by black and brown people?

Why would you accept a ‘vaccine’ for your black behind from him?

Una no get sense?

First,there is no proof Gates is eugenics. Just baseless accusations from misguided people like you.
Secondly,he has been donating vaccines way back. In fact,the reason polio is extinct is cos of him mostly.
Like someone said, he can decide to will all his money to prostitutes, and nothing would happen. It's his money. Same way I can't fault you for spending your money how you want

Glimpsetv:
Lady Allegedly Begins Manifesting After Celestial Church Song Is Played at Lagos Club

A video has gone viral showing a young lady reportedly manifesting under the influence of a spiritual force after a Celestial Church song was played at a club in Opebi, Lagos.

In the footage, the woman is initially held down by another lady as she begins to react strongly. Moments later, she breaks free, is seen being carried outside, and then shown on the floor making strange movements and speaking in an unknown tongue.

An eyewitness claimed that she had been in that state for over two hours. She was later captured on camera being carried into a waiting cab.

Onlookers were heard asking for help in locating a nearby Celestial Church, believing that taking her there was the only way to calm her and bring her out of the spiritual episode.

Watch the trending video and share your thoughts in the comments.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2Ci_gjdFcc?si=RhYuBKKL65J9-tA8

Lol😅 Nigerians can believe anything. No wonder we are in this state as a country. This lady could be having a manic episode of a mental illness or on psychoactive agent. Also the supposed Cele song doesn't seem to be playing in that scene. I can see a love band going on. Also that is not a club

delugadou:
Maybe the same reason. Do you know how many tongues have gone down there?

We await professionals to debunk/confirm the theory abi hypothesis

No wonder these scammers dupe u guys every single time. Even if you are not a medical personnel,there is internet

AirBere:
The person you're quoting does not have enough education to understand BASICS. An emergency accident taken to a federal medical centre has no excuse. Worst case scenario, inform the necessary authorities and save his life first. If he's a criminal, he'll serve jail time or be killed by hanging or whatsoever. Life's precious man. It's crazy. Our leaders are bad, but the people are evil. That guy's comment was very wreckless and evil. I don't wish him bad but looking at it, imagine an accident in the middle of nowhere and you were rushed to a FEDERAL MEDICAL CENTRE and they refused to treat you.

Abysmal comment that deserved to be deleted from that first page. Damn it.

Did you watch the video? Of course not. Did the health workers refuse treatment? No. So what the eff are you mouthing about? What is wrong with you guys

Fuckyoumod:
lol... You failed to understand that you are in Nigeria and not immune to gun shots, accident, stabbing and other vices that can land you in emergency and accident unit. Lol.....

I hope you get this treatment that you support! That man was helpless for over 15 minutes with those medical workers doing nothing to help him.

When that day finally comes knocking on your door or the door of your loved ones. I hope you get his treatment.

Life is simple, you get what you support!.

I will only come here to repost and remember your full support.

Do you read at all? The man needed to be carried but the porters were nowhere to be found for some minutes. You expect those women to carry him? Make una dey think sometimes

freeman67:
Oga first of all, this is an accident situation and not a gunshot situation. In this situations, instead of telling them it's not her job nothing stops for from calling the porter to come and carry the victim/patient. At least add some sense of urgency to it. Also, beware that even if you refused to help for the fear of arrest. If it written that you will be arrested others things will make them arrest you.

That said, you guys should stop threatening the whole nation that you are leaving always, If you leave others trained will do the Job. My only anger about you guys leaving is that many of you leave without resigning from government appointments. There given the government false/inflated number of employees. Once you leave another person go take over if you genuinely resign.

If you are going, ensure you go with all the people you are related to because they will be left in the hands of your other dissatisfied colleagues who will treat them the you treat other people.

You guys are always acting in this country like it's only us that use your services. As if you don't use other's professional services too.

I'm sure you didn't bother to watch this video before opening your mouth wide. She clearly called the porters to help carry the man,but the 'good samaritan' wanted her to carry the man herself and she said it's not her duty (which is correct)
I'm just letting you know some info,I'm not threatening u. If you feel so,then it's ur cup of tea. The new guys you are banking on taking over are all leaving too. In my fresh post MBBS days we wanted to do residency. Now even medical students are writing IELTS and then write PLAB/USMLE immediately after med school. And u expect them to take up the jobs left by us? You're funny 😁

SeeWahala:
He talks well abi? Hehehe 🤣😂

It's surprising to see that you and immortalcrown don't believe they could ever get involved in an accident in their life where by a random good Samaritan could rush them to a hospital to save their life

I hope if/when such a day comes (either to you or yours) and you're being refused life resuscitating treatment you will both remember this post you made here where you claim to understand why such treatments should be withheld

In this life, we reap what we sow and yes I myself have been involved in a terrible accident where I was rushed to the hospital unconscious and fortunately received life saving treatment

Do you know the number of doctors arrested by your corrupt police for treating gunshot/stab wound patients? Dey dia dey run mouth. So because we want to save lives we should get into police custody?

ruggedtimi:
you talk well...People are quick to condemn medical workers in Nigeria without considering the reasons behind their actions. I know several doctors who have been arrested for treating emergency cases such as gunshot wounds, stab injuries, and accident victims.

I myself have been arrested by the police for managing a stab wound victim who was brought in by 11pm. Unfortunately these Nigerians are quick to blame us cos they love to castigate doctors and nurses,instead of blaming the corrupt system. It is well. We are leaving you guys

immortalcrown:
Is the good Samaritan willing to give the hospital his identity in case no one else shows up for the accident victim?

Nigerian database is too poor to support hospitals treating accident victims in certain situations. Many of you might claim that I am heartless. But isn't the nurse also a human? What if the victim fails to pay after treatment and the hospital mandates the nurse to pay the bill?

What if police later gets involved and detains the girl when no one else shows up for the victim? In Nigeria, some legal actions have been criminalised and poor people are the victims. For a nurse to boldly refuse to treat the victim, even when she knows she is being recorded, she must have had many bitter experiences in such cases.

Did you watch the video,she said it's not her Duty. She didn't refuse to help.And she's right,it's the duty of the porters. I'm a doctor and porters are the ones that lift sick and injured patients to hospital wards. It's not the nurse or doctor's duty.

chrisxxx:
I knew he would soon depart as BrainJotter reminded everyone including good and bad people last year that he was still alive.
My dad wasn't sick until I posted his picture on my status celebrating his birthday. He didn't see 24 months afterward.
Sometimes let the legend be. Don't bring them to social media.

By your logic, people died because they were celebrated on social media. And prior to social media,people lived to ripe old age.
No wonder we are where we are, we don't have reasoning

ChybuzzDD:
The leftover will be ''rv''

What does that translate to

Retroviral disease

Ilekokonit:
Reminds me of when my Ex wife was near delivering our son and I asked the Doctor what will happen if Nepa takes light during delivery and what if she needed a blood transplant and he said he would use a lantern and as per the blood, he will drive round other nearby hospitals in Lagos and search for where he can get blood for the transplant. The next morning, I cancelled the ante-natal arrangement she had with that Doctor and re-registered her at a better hospital I looked for, inspected and vetted myself. (I was not in town when her Dad registered her with the old Doctor who happened to be a tenant of her Dad's friend).

I'm a doctor. You did the right thing. That doc is a potential unaliver

Celestialsword:
Health workers in government hospitals are nonchalant in the course of their work,

Did it also occur to you they may be overworked?

Wordson:
Abeg, keep quiet if u have nothing to say! Na lucky dem dey use win EPL trophy? Or what nonsense statement be this one?So Liverpool players didn't have injuries? Trent,Mac Alista, Konate,Allison,Jota,Gakpo,Sobozlai, Elliot, Bradly, etc. they didn't have injuries this season right?

The delusion of Arsenal fans are amazing

yommen:
There is nothing spectacular about Liverpool of this season compared to Arsenal of last season. Liverpool can only get total of 89 points if they win their remaining 2 matches. That was the same number of points Arsenal got last term in 2nd position. Liverpool was only lucky Arsenal and City had serious injury problems while Liverpool had their important players around all through. Simple.

So Alisson, Konate, TAA, Robertson, Mac Allister, Jota, Gakpo are not important players?
The delusion of Arsenal fans need to be studied

jmichael259:
If you couldn't pick on the answer and if one has to explain a riddle, proverb etc to you. I don't think you're fit for discuss.

I never used riddles for you cos this is an intellectual argument. One has to be clear in making point. So clearly answer my questions.
I noticed you JW have a knack of dodging difficult questions. Not just you, the main nut.job here too. Of course we see through all these gimmicks

[quote author=jmichael259 post=135321995][/quote]1.No poll was conducted. I'm talking about their experience, medical decisions and management protocols globally.
2. Buying phones etc has nothing to do with emergency transfusions
Please answer the questions thrown to you and stop deflecting

[quote author=jmichael259 post=135320280][/quote]1.In this thread, I can count up to 4 doctors who are practicing in different parts of the world. And the unanimous decision : blood transfusion is still the bedrock of medicine in 2005. If you are a doctor, let us know researches that said blood transfusions ARE NO MORE used in emergencies
2. I gave scenarios of acute blood loss where blood is needed immediately, you haven't replied to that.
3. Please how is that sentence contradictory? Many procedures can be done bloodlessly via laparoscopy but the costs are astronomical. Example, open appendectomy is averagely 500k in Lagos. Laparoscopic appendectomy is averagely 1.5m. How many can afford it? And whats more, not every hospital can do laparoscopic procedures. Its a costly procedure and you may do it maybe once a week. And what's more, some laparoscopic procedures may be eventually converted to open procedures.
So what in the above post is contradictory?

jmichael259:
Are you aware of the cost of marriage, buying cars or building houses in Nigeria? Of course not.
Also in emergency cases like infidelity, fire outbreaks or collapse, what should we do?

Yes I am aware. They are relative. Some cars and houses cost more than others.
In those fire emergencies you listed, you put off the fires.
Now can you quit faffing, and answer my question you dodged. Thank you

MaxInDHouse:
I don't comment on any other section on Nairaland except Religion.

My response here is to show everyone that God's law is ahead of scientists so if anyone feels blood transfusion can save him or her it's OK but i will forever object to whatever God says is not good for my health:

"For the holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to you except these necessary things:  to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols, from blood, from what is strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you carefully keep yourselves from these things, you will prosper. Good health to you!” Act 15:28-29

Before this inspiration from God there was prohibition of certain edibles but here God's Holy Spirit is saying we can eat any kind of meat yet blood should be avoided.

WHY?

God's word answered:

For sound health.

So if scientists say they know better than God yet the hazard of obvious and you say you're taking side with scientists it's OK i will always be on God's side in life and in death! Romans 8:38-39

My last comment on this section.

Farewell!

https://phoenix-browser.com/G1kuBmvHKzr

So Mr, what have you gotta say about this needless death

Ucheamani:
Bellow is a peer reviewed journal research.
https://journals.lww.com/ajts/fulltext/2017/11010/blood_transfusion_safety__current_status_and.1.aspx#:~:text=Current%20Status%2FChallenges-,High%20prevalence%20of%20transfusion%2Dtransmissible%20infections,negatively%20on%20blood%20transfusion%20safety

Noted
The article isn't far from what we have been saying. Blood transfusion has cons, but the pros outweigh it. We are always trying to make it safer everyday

Ucheamani:
Oga, I'm quoting an experienced transfusion practioner who is not a Jehovah's witness yet she said she will never accept blood transfusion in Nigeria.

Whatever he says is his opinion. Stick to evidence. What he says is not true, whether he's a doctor or not. Ask many doctors and also research yourself [i][/i]

enambobo:
Complications for consent not granted by the family. Even if the court grants it, you're still involved if they sue. You took the mater to court yourself. What the court just did is a breach of human right and can be countered by a higher court. The court has no right to decide medical issues for the family. They are other safer ways of treating people without blood but they forced their opinion on the family.

Allow the family chose their type of complications to deal with.

The doctor is still not liable. You obviously don't know how legal proceedings happen [i][/i]

jmichael259:
Lying against people does not make you wise nor prove any of your points.
Or maybe you're mixing up different people.
They do not refuse medical care and believe that Jehova would heal the child as you said.
It's unfortunate in 2025 that to a typical Nigerian, the thought of refusing blood transfusion sounds like refusing treatment altogether because of how moribund the successive governments have rendered both our education and medical sectors.
Heart surgeries, caesarian sections etc have been done without blood transfusion.
Faith or Religion is not the only basis for refusal of certain practices in medicine around the world but that's another story.

Blood transfusion is the bedrock of many medical practices globally, not just Nigeria. These procedures you listed can be done bloodlessly but its not every center that offers it and the costs are astronomical

jmichael259:
Blood transfusion itself is not treatment and in a sane country, things can be done without it.
It might be fewer but it's not unusual nor unheard of for people to refuse chemotherapy, invasive surgery, transplants, resuscitation, blood transfusion etc
The sad part of this is that this is a country where Doctors are still using 1945 methodologies. They don't know any other things to do in such situations in case of unavailability(which is a frequent occurrence in our hospitals) or refusal of transfusion. They don't have plasma and other blood replenishment or blood recycling equipment, they don't even know what those things look like.
[b]For the people involved in this particular matter, having to wait till now to attempt to remove the child is a sign of being unprepared or even negligent. The child should have been gone at the first sign of opposition or inability to administer treatment. You have no business there in the first place if you did your homework or actually aligned with the people of your fath.
Do not get pregnant and have kids if you cannot think, plan and save ahead. If the child has a condition or your faith denies some treatment methods then you should have arranged such matters with hospital liaison committees long time ago. A prepared person has no business being in a place where outsiders are now trying to impose, veto or retrace steps for you.
Fortunately, There are thousands of modern hospitals and doctors with experience to cater for these and many more cases such as Laser removal of kidney Stones without surgery, alternative care without chemotherapy, treatment without blood etc
Do not use faith as excuse for blood transfusion if you'll fail to monitor and comply with precautionary measures against drop in blood levels or having emergency contacts of similar faith doctors or hospitals that are able to handle your case. A person whose faith doesn't allow meat, will go out of their way to find and learn to prepare nutritious and strengthening vegetable based meals.[/b]

Are you aware of the cost and unavailability of bloodless surgery on Nigeria? Of course not.
Also in emergency situations like post partum hemorrhages and massive traumatic hemorrhage, what should we do?

enambobo:
Be ready to take care of the complications too should it go south. Cos the parents have the right to sue you for going against their wish and putting them in a mess of taking care of complications.

No. You can't sue. We are covered by law in such cases. In this case, if the transfusion goes south, there's nothing anyone can do. But these are rarities

MaxInDHouse:
In this side of the world people acting on what they have little or no knowledge about is common.
Blood Transfusion is no longer tenable as a safe means of treatment around the world.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLotSbIHSVY?si=ufYjQ189kSCqjx_s

Though God has warned His worshipers thousands of years ago to abstain from blood {Genesis 9:4} stating it'll guarantee good health {Act 15:28-29} but faithless people feels the book (Bible) shouldn't be the sole determinant of whatever they choose to do with their lives as it's an old book written by people they don't know.

Today health practitioners around the world are enlightening their people against the hazards of blood transfusion.

You posted side effects of blood transfusion but you ignored the importance of blood transfusion.
And who told you we don't transfuse patients again? What kind of scam.mer are you ffs? We give blood transfusions regularly. I have had this convo with you but you prefer falsehood(and your denom thrives on it) to the truth. Blood is a life saver. We do blood drives regularly. We give women bleeding after birth and people who have massive bleeding blood. Blood substitutes like hemacels, erthropoietin etc simply won't work since they take time. Before they boost the blood, the patient is already long dead especially those 2 instances I gave.
Yes blood transfusion has some dangers just like any medications. But the pros far outweigh the cons. We weigh the benefits and decide its safe. All those side effects listed can be avoided. I have transfused more than 100 patients since my housejob days and never had a mortality. I had only 2 pyrogenic reactions which is mild fever that go away but transfusion still continues.
MadMax you should be off Nairaland for misinforming people. Look at the gullible folks liking this your comment

Dtruthspeaker:
Did you not know that your child will grow up and be an armed robber who shall abuse and call you a stupid useless father?

Yet you still went ahead and poured your sperm

No we did not know

Which one be cousin brother and cousin sister? Nigerians are seriously funny

Stayingalive:
Science cannot at this point explain everything yet

Of course it doesn't, but it would eventually. Remember when we thought thunder was from the gods, or sickle cell was spiritual etc