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crazygod:
Everyone did it. From the bench, to the backroom staff, to the coaching staff to the players to the fans and most importantly, to the fans on Nairaland. We did it.
After years of telling us we won the league because of Covid...... Now they can't talk. We are Liverpool, Yesterday, Today and Forever.

This time they said we won cos of PGMOL

delugadou:
The hospital likely took a deposit from the couple before starting operation. If they didn't fuel the generator, they killed the woman.

Its a government hospital. They dont usually take deposits

Celestialsword:
Before any surgical operations are carried on a patient by a qualified surgeon some things must be put in place first like,

Blood
Alternative power supply
Ambulance
Medications

It's the fault of the hospital,the should be sued.

Its a govt hospital. Suing the state government is not easy

yinkus6750:
Why did the Doctors agreed to carry out the operation,when they knew they had no substitute arrangement in case NEPA takes light ? No proper planning. Act of unprofessionalism and lack of competence. Playing with people's life. They all need to be sure

Do you know what an emergency is?

mannobi:
The only time you hear about this man is when money is involved. Not salvation or helping the poor in fact he hates you if you are not a millionaire.

And guess the name of the church…?

jamafa:
But majority of them enjoy subsidized school fees.

Subsidized school fees and they all left the country when the country need them most.

It's alright o

Engineers, lawyers etc enjoyed 'subsidized' school fees and they are free to migrate. But doctors are not allowed. Same docs who paid the highest fees in school despite the 'subsidization'

Celestialsword:
Having faith is good, but don't tempt God with your faith.

You knows fire burn,and you deliberately put your hands inside it ,that's not faith but foolishness.

it will surely burn you.

This post doesn't make sense. Since when does travelling on the road or walking to church equate to putting your hand inside fire?
These christians sef

Daejumong:
Pastor Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo and other general overseers use bodyguards. They also use police escorts when travelling by road. Many of them use bullet proof cars . Is this right? Is it lack of faith? Is it wisdom? Is God not enough to protect them?

My thoughts
1) Nigeria (just like Israel in the times of Christ and the Apostles) is a difficult terrain riddled with kidnapping especially of rich and famous people. This makes men of God who are perceived to be very rich ideal targets.Luke 10:30-37

2) Jesus had 12 male disciples with at least one of them armed with a sword. He even encouraged all of them to buy swords. Luke 22:36/37 - 36 Jesus said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a SWORD, sell your cloak and buy one. 38 The disciples said, “See, Lord, here are two SWORDS.That’s enough!” He replied

3) Jesus had many people following him including women and they all needed protection from roadside/wilderness robbers and slave traders. He therefore needed his disciples to be armed to protect His team. Luke8:1-3

4) There are many times the message of Christ hit the Jews so hard that they wanted to stone him believing He was Blasphemous. He escaped most times likely with the support of his disciples who shielded Him. John 10:31-39

5) The disciples also helped to protect Jesus from the crowd who wanted to touch Him by all means. They could end up injuring Him and tearing His garments.Matt9:20-22

You're even shooting yourself in the foot.
So they can't repel kidnappings despite all their 'power'?

Courz:
This is a testimony from a Lady. A former Atheist, who was taken to Heaven and Hell years ago as an unbeliever. This is not an NDE Experience because her Spirit was taken to Heaven. Her experience is similar to many other testimonies of people who experienced Heaven. She was specifically chosen by God for this experience in order for her to work on herself and share the full details of what she saw with unbelievers and the whole body of Christ. When she got there, she realised she was not the only one as there were others like her who were taken to Heaven for the same purpose.

She gives very vivid details of all the things she saw in Heaven. Angel Gabriel was assigned to her to deliver messages and instructions of things she will see and do while he gave her some Tour. Almighty God was behind her, explaining things she saw and giving her instructions. She described his voice to be the Voice of many waters which is Biblical. She also says the Voice sounded like the voice of Two people but yet one person. She later understood that it was actually Jesus in the Father and the Father in Jesus. She was not permitted to see God’s Face and certain areas in Heaven.

The lady was also shown a Feast taking place over there which was The Marriage of the Lamb recorded in the Book of Revelations.

She was then taken to Hell and shown what it is like when we are not in the presence of God. She explains how she had to work on herself and realised God was not in support of her relationship between her and the Father of her Children. She needed to cut it off as a demonic entity/influence was attached to that Toxic relationship based on Trauma.

Watch and be blessed as we reflect on the Sacrifice our Kings of Kings and Lord of Lords made for us, risen to Life and conquering Death forever, for we who have been called to the Heavenly Kingdom. May this testimony draw you closer to my Heavenly Father and my Lord Jesus Christ. Amen.

Sand2022, you will love this testimony.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js-T-4r62HM?si=EgoBlifEXmUAA_yg

Do you believe Muslim and Hindu folks who give testimonies about seeing Allah appear to them in all glory etc etc etc

Gabrielshow24:
Then what conclusion did you arrive at, given your unprecedented allusion?

I have replied these questions. All you do is throw any questions I ask back at me. I think I'm done. I asked 3 questions in one post and you threw them right back

TenQ:
I said:
How do you know that a vehicles Navigator system has a Software running it?


Can you see the software?






How do babies suddenly know that they should breathe air? How do they know that they should suck their mother's nipples? Why should they have pain and discomfort receptors? Why do they just begin to imitate older people?

1. When you hear children screaming in your neighbors apartment, do you still ask if there are people in your neighbor's apartment? The noise is an indicator.
Same goes for software. The visual output on the dashboard screen showing directions etc is evidence of the software

2. Its like you haven't been reading my posts. Lemme repeat. Breathing is a spontaneous process, you don't think about it. It happens from the brain. I also told you babies suck anything near them. Nipple, fingers etc. Sometimes, when we are trying to examine them in the clinic, and they cry too much, we put their fingers into their mouths, they latch onto it and start sucking it.
I can't answer the other questions twice. Please scroll up. If you ask me again, I'll ignore you

Gabrielshow24:
Maybe, you should reflect that question towards you!

I asked 3 questions there. You dodged all of them
I think I'm done with this hide and seek from you. Look for some other guys to play with. When you're ready to answer questions, lemme know

Gabrielshow24:
No, not really. We are using your standard of empirical proof! So far you don't have video or audio evidence 🤔.

Hence the reason why I am reflecting your argument against you! I didn't constrain my self to empiricism! My bible offers evidence and conviction! SCIENTIFIC dogmas offers solely materialism and empiricity!—which doesn't help you in this present case as you don't have direct audio or video evidence 😂!

Please which evidence does your Bible offer? Just one?
are there any video evidence of your Bible?

Gabrielshow24:
A simple query says otherwise 😂.
Indeed you are a physician! Babies are not born blind! They can see, maybe perhaps you meant to say they have blurry vision🤔, apart from this you are outrightly wrong! —which doesn't look good for your self-professed profession!

Okay let's assume from your post here(which was deduced from Google) is true. Does blurry vision equate to being born with normal sight?
Their vision is 20/200 to 20/400, which is considered legally blind. Normal human vision is 20/20. So how can you compare 20/20 to 20/200 or 20/400. Which kain ignoramus am I even debating with?

Speaklove:
How would you define conscience ?

Its what keeps us moral

KNOWMORE56:
Do you know that more than 90℅ of the people claiming to be atheists do consult diviners or some kind of protection?

Interesting. How did u arrive at this 'important' statistics?

LordReed:
The statue is quite tall and where that metal thing was, was at the apex. A fall from there could've easily caused his death. Our naija brothers would rather believe in spirits than use their heads.

My brother these guys have made education a waste of time

GothamCities:
But logical reason didn't tell us that he's not the only one who has carried heavy objects in the world? Why is his case peculiar? Did the report tell you that something fell on him? I have observed that you atheists live in a world of deliberate constant denial in order for you to convince yourselves that the spiritual does not exist. I'll believe the spiritual does not exist if you can boldly go to yeye osun shrine with a video of yourself desecrating the place and coming out alive.

The story was inconclusive and leaves a lot to conjectures. Lemme explain.
If I tell you I tried from 3 stories building and I just found myself on the ground floor. What would be your conclusion?
There is no autopsy on the man, thus no one can conclusively say the cause of death yet you are 100% very sure he was voodooed to death. There are many natural causes that may have killed him.
That's how people like you conclude that any girl abandoned on the road has had their 'destiny stripped and used for yahoo' when in fact the girls either had psychosis or drug problems. But you won't listen to such explanations.
Unfortunately atheists believe in data and facts not hearsays and anecdotes.

TenQ:
What if I tell you that the evidence that we have a Software called the Soul is that we move about and people can see us make actions, would that be enough evidence for you as you have applied to the navigator?


You are inherently describing the fact that something was programmed into a baby to learn to progress into an adult. So you think this was an accident?


If a baby was born blind, why was he equipped with a functional set of eyes with every part designed to accommodate light and interpret the data.
Do you think it was an accident?

In case you don't understand?
A foetus doesn't have to use it's eyes in the womb for anything but somehow, providence seems to know that the baby will like outside the fluid of the aminiotc sac and everything needed for life outside was prepared in the womb like the lungs and the eyes!

Could this just be an accident?

So because you see folks moving about, then automatically we have a 'soul'? Really? What if I tell you that the fact we eat food and it disappears in our tummy, is evidence that there is a big parasite in us. Would you believe?
About babies, so you're saying all the developments were made by a being? Yes or no?

TenQ:
So what convinced you that an Entity called God the Creator doesn't exist? What was your EVIDENCE?

You didn't explain what you think it means for a person to be born again!

You lot claim there is a god. So the burden of proof lies on you, not me

sonmvayina:
Go back to where I was before birth.

Back to the realm of the spirit, waiting for another chance for another human experience.
If I don't live to witness the reign of God's real Messiah, which is supposed to be a peaceful and prosperous era for man, I will comeback when he comes.....

Peace is the goal

How do you know there's a spirit realm

Gabrielshow24:
Watch your tone, young man! It seems you are unwittingly unaware of the contradictions in your stance. Allow me to break it down for you:
1. You asked a question about my God.
2. You admitted that you don’t have direct video or audio evidence for your "stance".
3. Using this, you questioned why I believe in my God without video or audio evidence.

Do you see how you’ve already answered your own question? 🤨 If you can’t see it, then I’m afraid I can’t help you!

You started with confusion yourself. You said you don't believe macro evolution but you believe Bible stories. That prompted my question. Can you see you're now the confused one

Gabrielshow24:
this is misinformation! This is also false!

That's my problem with you. I'm a physician and telling you stuff and you argue blindly. Please do your research and lets have it

Gabrielshow24:
Think again 🤔; you clearly don’t realize how self-defeating your implication is.

What implications? Ogbeni answer question nah

Gabrielshow24:
Where do you get your Scientific data from? 🤨 This is false!

Dude I don't need to quote any source. Babies are born cortically blind. What it means is that even though their optic nerves are picking up images, its not being integrated in the cerebral cortex or occipital lobe to be specific. Remember we see with our brain and not eyes. That's why you see some blind folks whose eyes are wide open but are blind (though in some cases like that, it may not be cortical blindness but optic tract pathology)

Gabrielshow24:
It seems you’re oblivious to how self-refuting that quote was—hence why I flipped the question back to you!

No its not. Please can you answer the question. Thank you

TenQ:
LOL!
You never know if God was the one asking me to to check up on you!
LOL


How did you get born again?
What do you think it means?

Oh he did?
Mighty nice of him
Tell him hi too. Used to tell him 'hi' myself years ago, but it turns out I was talking to thin air, so I stopped. Talking to thin air is actually a psychosis

About how I got born again…? I remember watching all those hellfire clips in one crusade and was scared shitless
So I cried my lil heart out and asked him to forgive all my sins. Aint that sweet, using scaremongering to con hapless folks into believing your fairy tales

I am glad essentialone1 now knows christianity have their own fair share of terrorism

TenQ:
Were you ever born again please?

I believe I was. As a teen…

TenQ:
My mind was drawn strongly to you over the last week and I said I should first find out how you are!

Oh nice. I'm genuinely chuffed a Christian is looking out for me. Thanks. Preciate

Gabrielshow24:
Then what conclusion did you arrive at, given your unprecedented allusion?

Remember I asked you the question first. So reply me

TenQ:
I said:
How do you know that a vehicles Navigator system has a Software running it?


Can you see the software?






How do babies suddenly know that they should breathe air? How do they know that they should suck their mother's nipples? Why should they have pain and discomfort receptors? Why do they just begin to imitate older people?

1. We can see the output on the navigator screen. That's how we know there's a software in the navigator
2. There is a respiratory center in the brain that drives respiration. It is not controlled by the baby consciously. It works independent of the baby's state, whether awake or sleeping. Works the same way on adults too. This respiratory center is immature in babies thus their respiration is start and stop, not smooth like ours.
Babies are born blind. They don't even know what you're putting in their mouth. Put a finger there, and they suck it. They have a suck reflex, which again is outside their voluntary control. They only actions babies control is crying. Even pooping is reflex.
They have pain receptors and other receptors which are follow come and integrated in the brain.
They imitate others cos its automatic. If wolves raise a baby, it grows up behaving like them. Same if they are raised with folks that talk and move a certain way. All these are automatic cos their brain brain grows at a rapid rate. There's a 'hole' in the front of their skull which is there and gradually fills up with brain tissue as they grow.
As you can see, there's explanations for all these phenomena. No evidence of the soul