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Techobeys:
Ogbeni, go and sit down jo. There’s no atheist alive or dead who can stand an unbiased discussion with me. If you think otherwise then fine.

People with high level of suggestibility always make the loudest noise, just as empty barrels do. Just keep growing and learning, and better yourself bc I know if I quiz you on that English language too, you’ll not be able to say any meaning thing.

Do you think you’re the only atheist I have encountered? I have held a discussion with almost a thousand of your kinds at once and they couldn’t breath let alone a cheap atheist with mere qualification for such discussion.

Keep learning and growing, when I think you’re ready for intelligent discussion, I’ll discuss with you. So far you’ve not shown any sign of such level of intelligence as is needed for such level of communication. What will you even say sef?

I realize theists leave the substance and pursue the shadow. You have left the discourse. If you don't have any defense to my rebuttals, it means you are clueless.
Have a nice day then

tctrills:
You wouldn't understand

Is that your answer? Such lame excuse for not having an idea

[quote author=tctrills post=121822316][/quote]1. So are you saying Yahweh didn’t created everything in the world?
2. So let me get it right. So if we become good people we'll basically defeat an omniscient and omnipresent devil? Really? How?
3. I'm talking about Adam failing the test Yahweh gave him
4. Ok

tctrills:
Loool. Everyone uses some part of their brain even you. But the truth is, using the brain does not make one an atheist. And if you honestly believe that the atheistism is the outcome of using your Brian then you are no different from those you accuse.

Why do you think so?

Dtruthspeaker:
"When the stupid has nothing to say, he insults."

Lawag3

Techobeys:
I know you wish I’d discuss these things with you but I won’t. It’ll burn your heart that I won’t discuss Bible with you.

Discuss a myth? Lol. You take yourself too serious. I already have my answers, and you don't even understand English, talk less of engaging me

correctguy101:
I
Me thinks he's too wise for his own good
The madmen too get sense, maybe sense join kill am

But he's totally correct.


Might I add, that religion is also a way to informally tax the masses...
And a business opportunity to those who have the talent of doing wordy acrobatics...

True

guysbewise:
Then you did not read my question above, here is it again.



Answer this question. Imagine when the young man in the post below by someone else on this forum, was still in primary six and a very bright boy without showing any sign of what he started doing later on at uni and her jealous aunty said to this boy only amongst his other siblins when he was still in primary six that he was going to do what he started doing later at uni, what is your explanation of this? If you say you don't believe this can happen then you are naive about the demonic activities of divination going on in this world.

I read it, and still stand by my reply

FxMasterz:
Who are those observers you're talking about? Point out those nations today.

I'm referring to the 'others' you mentioned in your post. Refer to it

GoodIsGod:
Engaging you guys in an argument is like arguing with a mad Man.
Those who engage you have time.

Every thing is hoax to a lunatic even when it's glaring it's real.

Engaging theists reduce my IQ drastically. Waste of school fees

FxMasterz:
Who told you that archeologists have the final say? Their position today can change tomorrow. Their new position is just another 'find' away.

So who has the final say? Yahweh?
Think about this. Many remarkable events supposedly happened in the Bible. From Noah's Ark, til great flood, to red sea parting, sun/moon standing still, resurrections.
Yet, not one has been found or recorded by archaeologists and historians. Yet events that happened before it like Pyramids, dinosaurs etc have been recorded.

FxMasterz:
Keep clapping.

Lol. Bro don run

FxMasterz:
Were the archeologists born in that era to tell us what they never witnessed? Archeologists can only talk after they find. The things they didn't find yesterday, they found today, and the things they didn't find today, they might find tomorrow. They should keep searching until they find.

Special Note

Talktalk2022 is a Scammer boy who made away with my 200k. Rather than return my money to me, he retorted to blackmail. I'll deal mercilessly with the criminal until his life becomes disgusting to his parents.

You wicked polluted son of a criminal called talktalk2022, You've bitten more than what you can chew. Just be on the lookout for me.

Return my money!!

Its been more than 2 to 3k years since those events purportedly happened, and more later events that happened before that time have been discovered. So why weren't they discovered ?
Everything in that layer of rock and soil have been dug through.
Are you aware the pyramids of Egypt predated the Bible? Yet they have been discovered and dated, yet bible events are nowhere to be found. Keep deceiving yourself
PS If you feel the guy is a scammer, report him

MrMxyptlk:
Truth is Christianity will always be tyrannical to me. Cause, it's not about being a good person, its the fact that, even while being good(or tryna be), you can't make the pearly gates unless you belief in a particular existence of which sadly, there's no solid proof.

Basically, christianity says, you've never hurt anyone but you dont believe Jesus is the way so you'll still suffer, but he's killed lots, sent lots to hell, put families in depressive states but he makes heaven cause he says "God, forgive me".

The concept of inherited sin(Adam's sin sucks more). Let's simplify this(Christians reading this are already saying you can't simplify the things of God, but oh well, I'll proceed eitherways). I'll use my life as an example, My mom is a teacher. When I was in grade 2, my class teacher then had a daughter who was in Grade 5. My mom was her daughter's Math teacher and she was mad at my mom cause my mom refused to alter her daughter's grades to make them much better. She, in her annoyance took it out on me and my grades. On first listen and even subsequent listen, everyone will say "Na, that was wrong". But that exactly is what God is doing to us all. I never "chose" to eat any forbidden fruit but here I am, suffering from someone else's decision to sin.

Again, Christians say their God is omniscient. "He knew us and all about us before we were formed in our mother's womb". That I'll like to expand further to say, he knew how we'll end our lives too. Then why create someone being 100% certain that he/she would end up in hell? And if he doesn't know how we'll end up, is he really Omniscient?

If my child steals a piece of meat from the pot and I decide to kill that child, y'all will definitely say "Fam, that's an overkill". But I live in sin(probably not even harming others, just ignorant about christ), then I die and burn "FOREVER". Honestly, that's unfair.

"Jacob I loved, Esau I hate"
"All are called, few are CHOSEN"
"I'll have mercy on whom I chose to have mercy on"
This is someone who loves us all equally?

Keep thinking like this, and you'll end up an atheist. Be careful

guysbewise:
Answer this question. Imagine when the young man in the post below by someone else on this forum, was still in primary six and a very bright boy without showing any sign of what he started doing later on at uni and her jealous aunty said to this boy when he was still in primary six that he was going to do what he started doing later at uni, what is your explanation of this? If you say you don't believe this can happen then you are naive about the demonic activities of divination going on in this world.

Interesting. Ever heard of bipolar disorders or schizophrenia?
Nigerians are so ignorant of mental health, its so mind boggling. In a society like this, patients that have such symptoms, end up in the psychiatric ward very late, because they go to all sorts of churches and mosques

Dtruthspeaker:
I don't need to but I know Who Does and I know How He operates and so I know that you have fallen into one of His Snares and you must be destroyed o ye devil!

Lawag3

Dtruthspeaker:
Says the son of liars. We shall see if your family will not be filled with calamity and destruction until there is none left.

Lawag3

Jackanda1:
Why some of you are hateful atheist today is because you're too smart for God.

The only criteria to enjoying the salvation, presence and warmth that God has to offer is to become like a child.

Why should I hate fgkrwvskeh?

Dtruthspeaker:
He Who created you shall make you and thy children barren in all things till thy house be as a desert. And suddenly shall your calamity and destruction come to wipe away you and your house forever and ever.

Lawag3

Steep:
So if a man goes ahead to drink from a river that is not meant for drinking after he is told, so the river should be blamed for his actions?
The devil never came to Adam by the way,
Adam was to lead eve as the head not the other way round, he allowed eve lead him, Adam just like people don't have any excuse.

All you try to do is avoid responsibility. Adam responsibility was to ensure he keeps to God's commandments.

1. I told you Adam was tempted through Eve. Does it matter the order the temptation came?
2. When the person was forced to drink, then he has no choice

Dtruthspeaker:
God set a fate of life and death. You exercised your freewill to choose death, so go and die.

But you just said Yahweh didn’t give us freewill up there

Dtruthspeaker:
God set a fate of life and death. You exercised your freewill to choose death, so go and die.

Lawag3

FxMasterz:
And who says Tall el-Hammam isn't another name for that area?

What's the difference between Ivory Coast and Côte d'Ivoire? What's the difference between Lagos and Eko?

And I found the other name for it is Abel-Shittim.
Archaeologists have not established the place is actually Sodom or Gomorrah.
Talk another lie

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tell_el-Hammam

FxMasterz:
Keep clapping.

After the count of 100 claps, peruse the attached image. Then, clap a hundred times more before visiting this link below. After reading from the link, never stop to clap because you're a genius.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moses#:~:text=After%20the%20Ten%20Plagues%2C%20Moses,sight%20of%20the%20Promised%20Land.

So, I clapped a 100 times, read your link and found this….

Scholars hold different opinions on the status of Moses in scholarship.[57][58] For instance, according to William G. Dever, the modern scholarly consensus is that the biblical person of Moses is largely mythical while also holding that "a Moses-like figure may have existed somewhere in the southern Transjordan in the mid-late 13th century B.C." and that "archeology can do nothing" to prove or confirm either way.[59][58] However, according to Solomon Nigosian, there are actually three prevailing views among biblical scholars: one is that Moses is not a historical figure, another view strives to anchor the decisive role he played in Israelite religion, and a third that argues there are elements of both history and legend from which "these issues are hotly debated unresolved matters among scholars".[57] According to Brian Britt, there is divide amongst scholars when discussing matters on Moses that threatens gridlock.[60] According to the official Torah commentary for the Conservative Judaism, it is irrelevant if the historical Moses existed, calling him "the folkloristic, national hero".[61][62]

Jan Assmann argues that it cannot be known if Moses ever lived because there are no traces of him outside tradition.[63] Though the names of Moses and others in the biblical narratives are Egyptian and contain genuine Egyptian elements, no extrabiblical sources point clearly to Moses.[64][65][66] No references to Moses appear in any Egyptian sources prior to the fourth century BCE, long after he is believed to have lived. No contemporary Egyptian sources mention Moses, or the events of Exodus–Deuteronomy, nor has any archaeological evidence been discovered in Egypt or the Sinai wilderness to support the story in which he is the central figure.[67] David Adams Leeming states that Moses is a mythic hero and the central figure in Hebrew mythology.[68] The Oxford Companion to the Bible states that the historicity of Moses is the most reasonable (albeit not unbiased) assumption to be made about him as his absence would leave a vacuum that cannot be explained away.[69] Oxford Biblical Studies states that although few modern scholars are willing to support the traditional view that Moses himself wrote the five books of the Torah, there are certainly those who regard the leadership of Moses as too firmly based in Israel's corporate memory to be dismissed as pious fiction.[70]

… and that is when I knew I was truly a genius as you suggested, and clapped 1000 times more

FxMasterz:
Another irrelevant question.

It is relevant. Quote the mainstream history or archaeologists backing the bible

Image123:
The question you should ask your mentee is what are the regular and mainstream historical texts comparative to the Bible or you both think it should be on Twitter?
You of course are ignorant of miracles, thinking it's an ignorance of the times. Till tomorrow, your teachers and professors will teach and refer to sunrise and sunset, and tell you boldly that the sun rises in the East and sets in the West. Let's suppose with you that they are ignorant of the times. TwinClowns.

I just posted what mainstream historians think of bible events. Deal with it.
What about miracles? Do you have any evidence of any miracles?

Dtruthspeaker:
Esau ,Saul, Solomon had long lives, but it does not matter because destruction is always at the end.

You mean death? Oh, we're all gonna die. You'll probably die before me. So I don't know what you're talking about

Dtruthspeaker:
A true Christian is intolerant of evil and knows that he is duty bound to condemn it. Isaiah 54:17.

You are no Christian if thou seeth a Muslim dog blaspheme The Lord and thou didst not hotly curse him that perhaps The Lord may hear and destroy him, that the whole world may fear and know that The Lord indeed Rules!

Lawag3

sorextee:
A good Christian will not say this. After cursing that guy, u will still use that mouth to praise and pray to God. This is why I say so many of we religious people are hypocrites.

That is even mild. Go through his posts, you'll understand. The guy is cantankerous

Kobojunkie:
1. I am afraid you are the one who is wrong because faith is none of what you describe.

2. Faith does not take the place of science in the lives of individuals much the same as abiding by the Law and Constitution of the Land does not take the place of science in the lives of citizens. Faith is synonymous with abiding by the Law and Constitution of the land.

You be case. Necrobumping randomly everyday

FxMasterz:
The video evidence including the analysis of the burning sulphur found on the site isn't enough? Okay, don't worry, I would go and bring Sodom and Gomorrah to your laboratory so that you can test them in the lab. I believe you'll be able to make a decision after that, won't you?

Dude, do you know what an evidence is?

History says where you guys called Sodom and Gomorrah may be Tall el-Hammam.
Maybe you should read up here

https://www.ancient-origins.net/human-origins-science/sodom-gomorrah-scientific-evidence-00358

FxMasterz:
This sentence even got me cracking my ribs. Hahaha. Moses was a myth, Jesus was a myth. Even Israel is a myth. Na wa for Atheists o!

Moses was a myth yet he had both progenitors as well as descendants with a whole lot of documented family history. A myth indeed. Clap for yourself!

I have clapped for myself.
So then, can you show me Moses existed? Was there any historians talking about him? Where are his descendants?

No history of Moses existed outside the Bible.

This is what historians have to say.
The figure of Moses is well-known: He's the subject of generations of Hollywood spectacle and a holy man revered by all three faiths of the Book. In his legend's wake are a bunch of commandments, rivers of blood, plagues of frogs and a sea that parts.
Yet, outside of biblical scripture, there is next to no evidence in the archaeological and historical record of Moses's existence. There is no exact time frame for when the events of Exodus may have occurred -- with scholarly conjecture spanning more than half a millennium. Nor do we know the identity of the villainous Pharaoh in the Bible, cast in films repeatedly as Ramesses II. That pharaoh is famed for his conquests and building projects. But in their digs and readings of inscriptions and papyrus, historians have found no trace of Moses under Ramesses's reign.
They also puzzle over the seismic environmental event that is the parting of the Red Sea. There are various scientific theories over what could have happened. Over at Wonkblog, my colleague Chris Mooney looked into one model that saw strong winds sweep through a brackish lagoon in the Nile Delta (not the actual Red Sea), creating a channel through which runaway Israelites could flee.
There are echoes of the Moses myth in a number of other traditions: his escape as a baby through a treacherous waterway is similar to tales of Sargon, a pre-biblical hero from ancient Mesopotamia, as well as the Hindu deity Krishna.
Other researchers have likened Moses to Akhenaten, a fascinating Egyptian pharaoh forgotten for thousands of years until his tomb was discovered in the 19th century. Unlike the kings who ruled before and after him, Akhenaten was a monotheist, and he banned worship of all divinities except Aten, an all-encompassing god represented by a sun-disc. His enigmatic wife Nefertiti is one of ancient Egypt's more beguiling characters.
The above even implied that the Bible was copied, which is what we have been telling you guys. Copied from the Epic of Gilgamesh, and other ancient Egyptian texts.

Want more evidence?