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Gabrielshow24:
That's where your foolishness is eminent!
Did you even consider the logical and religious implications if that were to really occur? 🤷🏾‍♂️


Also God can choose to use whatsoever he deems plausible to pass his judgement along!

And most interaction of God with man, as regards judgement, in most cases has been through physical means!

Oh my Flying Spaghetti Monster!
A theist is talking about the logical and religious implications of the actions of a god? Same god that made donkeys and bushes talk, same god that made a man survive in a whale, same god that made the sun/moon stand still, same god that made a virgin have an baby etc etc
Did you think about such things as logical and religious implications when you read and swallowed all those stories hook, line and sinker?
And in the next paragraph, u now say your god can do whatsoever he likes, completely neutralizing your first paragraph. Thus I was right. He could have just taken the Thanos option and no one would question him.
What do you mean by 'Physical means'? You mean talking directly?

Lucifyre:
Dude wtf🤣

Desperate times calls for desperate measures

Gabrielshow24:
I don't have the time to go looking up past posts and then dredge up your exact words.

Irrespective of whatsoever you said.
Your sentiments seem to shift perhaps due to overwhelming evidence that supports the historical validity of Jesus to his divine nature.

I don't think, you're seeing yourself.
Let any sane person look through this thread.
He/she will conclude that in fact you lots have shifted your goal post many times.

The initial sentiments was against the existence of God using your self same scientific principles but when you saw I brought up axioms which by themselves do not have any scientific or mathematical proof but are used to prove all things!

And from there I drew a conclusion that God in the same vein is ultimately a metaphysical axiom that by itself cannot be proved either mathematically or scientifically.

Then you changed and started to attack the person of God in the scriptures to try and invalidate God.

So far you have failed woefully!

At the bolded. So if it's true then why have you been convulsing here as if your god can be evidenced?
If you can't provide evidence then why should I believe you?
Would you believe me if I tell you sbflcbsv created the whole universe without a shred of evidence?

Gabrielshow24:
That's where your foolishness is displaying for all to see!

Why do you think men celebrate innovators?
Or why do you think they give praises and awards?

Are you this daft?
Is it about looking like?
It's about conceptualizing something.
And then bringing it to form!

Hence invariably you allude that God conceptualized the nuances of infinity and by and by has brought to form!

Stop being ignorant!
Are humans shaped like cars?
Or are we shaped like aeroplanes?

But yet they are both products of our ingenious minds!

Stop capping rubbish!!!
An axiom predates proof and it's universally true.

You made this post…

Simple reasoning confirms that if science claims the "universe" is infinite then whosever/whatsoever that brought about this has infinity has it(infinity) as one of its characteristics

And the post clearly states that an infinite must be created by an infinite god.
So why do you have a problem when I said humans have to look like cars(or at least use 4 wheels) since its our creations
U r severely mentally damaged

Gabrielshow24:
🤧Whether you whip up a god or not; the fact is that you allude to the concept of an infinite being.

What now remains is the modus operandi of your supposed God! 🤷🏾‍♂️

If you are not seeing the fallacy you are committing then you are dumb.

The modus operandi of your own 'Infinite' being is not even agreed upon by Christians and u r here venting. Even the Bible cannot agree upon the said Modus Operandi.
Oga u christians are too clueless and stvpid for me to engage

Gabrielshow24:
First of all, I posit by bringing up the atrahasis and showing you that there exists even far more correlation between the atrahasis and epic with the same literal style and plot unlike the bible you so claim copied from it!

Are you this daft?
Don't you see even local floods carrying things!
Am not surprised coming from a physician 🤧.

Tsunamis is simple example of a localized flood capable of huge destruction.

Even those that experience floods no the destruction they are capable of!

I don't argue whether it was global or not.
My scientific bias clearly stated categorically from the start that it was mostly localized but the pov of the writer will make it seem as though it happened world wide!
Once again it doesn't negate the fact that in that region there exists notable signs of a regional flood!!!

This is evident in ancient literature!
Your of ad hominem won't help you!

Whether local or not, your book clearly says it was GLOBAL and all mankind was wiped off. Local or regional floods don't wipe out mankind. If you are saying that it may be local/regional, then you are second-guessing the creator of the whole world(according to you). I hope u know that is a mortal sin on its own
Yes tsunamis may be local/regional but its never global. I wonder why you brought it here

FxMasterz:
I mean the medically impossible cases.

Who are they? What are their conditions? I'll pray for them, and Jesus will heal them.

We are talking about palliative cases here. Folks with end stage kidney disease, metastatic prostate cancer etc. They would be dead in weeks or so.
So do your thing. Pray for them. After praying, we'll run investigations to confirm

FxMasterz:
Yeah, by the grace of God.

Get the medically impossible cases in your hospital. Jesus will heal them.

They are ready. Say the word

FxMasterz:
Mtcheww. Just responding offpoint. Are you just coming from a bar?

You started with insults since morning and I've been very civil with you. Later you'll come back to say I insulted you first. Of course you don't have a brain.

U have been throwing ur own insults too. Don't pretend

FxMasterz:
Really pathetic. I do not owe you any evidence. Who are you by the way,? I've asked you simple questions,you couldn't answer. Was there a debate? Who created it and who are the judges?

It's only a mad man that would tell someone, "hey, if I see an amputee healed, I'll stop.beimg an atheist", then when the person replies with directions as to where to find information, he starts yelling "Show me evidence. You're a liar. You don't have evidence. You're this and that." Does that your behavior sound logical to you? If it does, then you're irredeemable.

I created a thread where I pointed out that there must be a Creator behind the universe. You avoided any argument on that thread but when you heard I was going to put my argument on YouTube, you quickly saw a reason to tell me not to. And here you're flexing muscles because you've got a silly song to sing. Your show me evidence folly is very imbecilic. Go where the evidences are. No one owes you an evidence. No one showed me any evidence before I believed in God. Hence I don't owe anybody any evidence especially on a digital platform.

If we're meeting physically, yeah I can demonstrate the power of God to you as a person.n or to anyone you bring. It's just very easy for Jesus to demonstrate His power to you fools. It's not hard at all just a little word of prayers and thing's will.happen that are not ordinary.

If there are many fakes, if your head is working, you'll know that there's no fake without an original. Those who are faking it are doing so because they want to compete with those who have the original. If there no original, no o e will fake anything because no one will have such expectations of them. But if I perform Miracles, and yahoo pastor A wants to.pull membership as I do, he must fake it in order to pull.memberd like i.fo. if no one is performing real miracles , no one will.be doing fake miracles. Fakers make the most noise and fools like you use them as basis for generalizations.

Look, die in your ignorance and self inflicted folly if you must. You're not more important than all the foolish atheists who have so died and are now face to face with reality. Curse to the high heavens. Abuse me as much as you can. Call me a liar. Do all your demonically motivated things. One day, your eyes will clear. I just pray you get wise before then. And if you remain foolish, you'll justifiably bear the brunts of your own foolishness.

I don't have anything to do for you in terms of evidence. Who cares whether you believe or not? Who are you to be asking evidence from me? What debate did we join together?

"Did I force you to respond?" You're actually more unintelligent than I thought.

I may not answer you anymore because I don't have time to be wasting on fools.

The way you hissed at all my testimonies, is the same way I hissed at yours.
Which idiotic question did you ask?
All the places you asked to search for miracles are littered with oral testimonies which can be lies, which you know, but you are too dishonest to admit. SO AGAIN, give us video testimonies, I beg of u. Notice how videos of such healings are absent despite repeated claims of such miracles.
You created a thread, posited some claims, when some atheists made some counter claims. You were waffling all over the thread, and you expect more atheists to engage u? U be dvnce, aswear
Of course you needn't have any evidence to believe in anything. I'm sure if I told you I have a trillion dollars, u would believe me. U r that gullible
We don't need to meet physically, just pray and heal some people. After all, don't you christians believe in healing via proxy or distance healing? Which one be healing via physical only. Oga just say the word and its done, just like your Jesus did in the bible.
You didn't force him to respond but u r angry he didn't respond on your stupid thread.

FxMasterz:
I can't heal anyone but Jesus can. There are no scammer pastors anywhere. Those who scam are impostors. I will pray and Jesus will heal.

Ok. So can you pray and someone gets healed now?

FxMasterz:
What claim exactly, and why should I bring evidence? You mentioned me to say you'll stop being an atheist if you see an amputee who got restored. How's that my business? If I told you that God has done numerous such things, and even gave you several pointers for a research, I've only helped you, you should be grateful. I'm not indebted to you to provide you with any evidence whatsoever!

Oga get your evidence oh and stop disturbing us here

Gabrielshow24:
If the supposed miracle of the sun being well documented although scientifically impossible can take place then I don't need to tell you how petty regeneration stands before this!

The hardness of your heart will not let you search.

Irrespective, I believe in self learning.
When you are ready instead of saying fallacies you will investigate the evidence yourself! 👀

Which miracle of the sun are you waffling about?

FxMasterz:
How's it my work?

Who are you that I should give you evidence?

Use the screenshot below to make further research.

<Yawn>
Any videos of the amputated limbs growing? I don't need stories

FxMasterz:
Mtcheww.

No one who stages a miracle is a Christian. Those who do are yahoo boys turned pastors. Rea miracles often don't make the news because they're common occurrences among us, added to the fact that Christians don't perform miracles for show.

It is a lie that that all the Christians you invited to your hospital took off. Mature Christians walking faithfully with the Lord will take up the challenge. The result would be that some would be healed while some may not.

Perhaps, those you're calling are norminal Christians who are just on the same plane as yourself. Matured born again christians filled with the Holy Ghost will take up the challenge. Some of the sick folks would be healed. The majority actually. While a few of them may not be healed.

Ok so I'm lying about those christians running away from miracles? Ok. Can you heal anyone or know any pastor who does? Please don't point me to any pastor out there. They have all been exposed as scammers

FxMasterz:
...are not possible biologically. That's what AI said! And are we discussing biology?

Miracles are not biology.

Illiterate, it's Meta AI, not Chatgpt. It said there are numerous claims of amputees being healed especially in the ministry of Kathryn Khulman.

I don't know why you just love lying. I have attached the screenshot again below to debunk your lies concerning what AI said.

Kuhlman has been shown to be a fraud. Besides this is 2024, almost everyone has a camera phone, why is it difficult to see amputee regrowing videos?

Gabrielshow24:
Even if the sources are brought before you; you will still not believe!

You have Google, query and see for yourself!

Google doesn't bring any evidence. If there is, do let us know

Gabrielshow24:
You act so naive!
is it based on ability; that you assume God can't do this? 🤦

The very nature that is prevalent in some reptiles🥱 so What's your point?

For an infinite God then it's not impossible!
It's very plausible contrary to your statement and there are accounts and reports of extraordinary healing taking place!

Theoretically, a lot of things are so and so but in reality they are not always so.

Does that diminish the fact that theoretically it's well laid out?

The theoretical stance of infinity includes all procedures and concepts both the ones discovered and the ones unknown!

It's all encompassing!

You're just blowing senseless grammar.
I can whip up a god or shdlsvrhek, give it infinite abilities and worship it. Does that mean it exists?

Gabrielshow24:
Can you see how your circular reasoning exhibits itself? 🤦

How then does he not have infinite capacity?
If the singularity is infinitely dense! 🧐

Why are you this foolish?
Simple reasoning confirms that if science claims the "universe" is infinite then whosever/whatsoever that brought about this has infinity has it(infinity) as one of its characteristics!

Or are we to use the judgement of Jae to decide whether God is infinite or not?

God forbid!
The elements/laws of truth, are sufficient to prove the pseudo existence of God!

If science claim the universe is infinite, how does that translate that it must have a creator?
Btw, must the creator of goats look like goats?
You see how cretarded u r

Gabrielshow24:
Now you are shifting your goalpost once again.
A colleague of yours believes Jesus doesn't even exist at all but you have now implied that he exists but your basis of argument has shifted to his divine nature!

At least we are getting somewhere🤭

Oga I said that the evidence of Jesus existence is debatable. But if he exists, he's not a divine figure
Where is the goalshifting there

Gabrielshow24:
Now the burden of proof is on you.
Prove to me that these disciples don't exist! 🧐.

Since you and your colleagues like making baseless claims without any substantial evidence.

I have plethora of evidence to validate the existence of Jesus' disciples.

Read up from these historical and even theological articles
https://factsaboutreligion./2015/01/12/most-biblical-scholars-think-the-gospels-were-anonymous-documents-by-unknown-authors/


https://bibleoutsidethebox.blog/2017/09/30/yes-the-four-gospels-were-originally-anonymous-part-1/

Gabrielshow24:
How are they confusing? 👀
The second is more specific than the first!

Like I said am aware of the scientific absurdity but once again.
I say that it's not impossible.
There are multiple occasions of animals seeking shelter in human abodes.

Whether it happened on a larger scale there is no scientific evidence to it.

But the fact that the individual Characteristics of animal coming to man either for shelter, protection it's well tabulated and formulated in science!

There is no need to explain. You have already said yhwh magicked them all over the world, adding an element of magic to your explanation. So why didn't he snap his finger, Thanos-esque, and make all the mankind to disappear, instead of making a mess with the flood

Gabrielshow24:
1.
Whether epic happened before only suggests that the knowledge is more regional stemming from a common ancestor Incase you are not familiar the supposed book has more correlation with the tablets of atrahasis and even older book.

So what's your basis?
On some little correlation between two books.

Correlation doesn't necessarily imply causation.

It's all over history.
I could as well draw correlation between the Vikings and the Aztecs they both did human sacrifice have similar forms of torture.

Or I can conclude the pyramids elsewhere were copied from Ancient Egypt!?

Do you know how foolish that sounds?
Hence you don't take some parts of the book and start crying plagiarism.

From your logic, I can the leopard must have been so fascinated that he copied the stripes of the cheetah.

Once again:
CORRELATION DOESN'T MEAN CAUSATION!

Even from the womb when you were 1-3months you looked no different from a baboon's embryo but are you a baboon?

2) it doesn't matter that in that region there are geological proofs that it occurred in that region!

Also "the great flood" is filled across all ancient civilizations!

But present scientific basis suggests that it was most likely regional!

It doesn't change the fact that it occurred no matter how you argue!

4) are you that dumb🤦?
It's a flood that persisted for days. 👀
Read the scientific implications of this your childish statement!

5) Are you foolish🤦?
Where does the matter of Tsunamis go to👀?

You keep exposing your folly

1. Lol, illiterate. Atrahasis was 18th century while Epic was 2100–1200 BCE. So which is older?
2. You finally shot yourself in the foot. So you finally agreed your bible is wrong by calling it a global flood?
3. The scientific implication is that your flood never happened. Even if it was local, it was impossible for a local flood to float an ark, u dvmbest dvmmy
4. What about tsunamis? What concerns it?

Dtruthspeaker:
See how you prove you are very stupid as the thread says?

So as Mr. Toyoda has created the Camry and he destroyed it, he cannot create it again?

Take your meds

FxMasterz:
Yeah, now you're talking. I have a God. I don't have a god. No Christian has a god. We have a God. He does all things. He is The Almighty. The God who raised my brother to life in 1982 when he died after falling from a storey building. The God who delivered my life from death in 1988 when Cholera struck my body. The God who miraculously delivered us from a fatal accident in 1988 when we were face to face with a trailer as we returned from Lagos after attending a Deeper Life retreat. The God who reassigned the tooth of my daughter when she grew one in very odd places. I ordered the tooth to correct itself in the name of Jesus and it did. The God who helped my fiancee (now my wife) to pass a paper after she had submitted an empty answer sheet. She returned home to tell me she couldn't write anything because that paper was tough. I said "Lord, you wrote the 10 commandments for Moses, write this paper for her." She miraculously had a 'B' in that paper. The God who delivered my 2 children from death when they were young. My children were always within my gated compound but this very day, they opened the gates to go take a closer look at a passing train. I was in the room when the Lord said to me "Go to the sitting room and look out the window". I looked out the window and saw my two children aged 4 and 2 running towards the rail to go see the train whose coming sound they have heard. The train was already in view and my kids were just 2 meters away from the rail still running when I yelled out their names. They immediately halted, and God delivered us from a great tragedy. How many would I talk of His goodness and grace and the great deliverances which He has wrought for me and through me? The fool looking for amputees should keep searching. Testimonies abound. He'll surely find. The Eternal God of Israel lives.

My own Unicorn does wonders too. He saved me when I accidentally dived from a plane. He put my head back on my shoulder when some crazy Christian decapitated me, and my decapitated head was shouting 'Save me oh Unicorn'. He also miraculously made my 2 year old son a consultant cardiologist without med school or residency.
What a wonderful Unicorn

orisa37:
THE ATHEISTS ARE BUILDING AI TO BANKRUPT THE HUMAN RACE.

Another fruitcake

kingxsamz:
Yes, I'm not an atheist. I believe in a Unicorn creator. And anyone who rejects such belief is an irrational human being with blind faith.

Not only irrational but they are fools too

Gabrielshow24:
Also once again, whether your creator is a unicorn or not, you have indirectly conceded from your initial stance!

So current your logical position no longer warrants the term Atheist.

This is also another implication of your statement!

You didn't disprove op, you invariably invalidated yourself to prove some misplaced point!

You are such an illiterate. You don't even know what a parody is

Gabrielshow24:
God🙃

U decide to make yours capital. Doesn't mean a thing. Muslims make theirs capital. Everyone claims their soup is the sweetest

Gabrielshow24:
Is this statement not evidence to the fallacy you are committing? 👀

You even had the guts to say/start with "No"
When you ended up reiterating the same thing😂

U have been wanking about fallacies here. Which exact fallacy did he commit?
Did you just learn of fallacies today

Gabrielshow24:
What then are the four gospel books?
Or the recorded history by Tacitus, Josephus and the likes 👀?
Are you this deluded? 🤧

As regarding you quoting Justin, you quote him off point!

What's the core of the message being passed?

Thirdly, most of the gospel books predates the Nicene council.

It was after the council that they began to standardize the books!

Once again stop saying trash!

Those gospel books were from Dead Sea Scrolls which are anonymous. They were compiled by Nicean Council under Constantine

FxMasterz:
You're the liar guy. Tell me where I claimed I have a god!

LordReed u see what I'm talking about? This guy has a mental issue. He'll keep on denying claims he made in this thread. Its not the first time, nor the second or last