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FxMasterz:
I don't have a god. I made no such claims.

Really? Have you started lying already

Gabrielshow24:
So far with what have seen your goalpost has changed from God to bible to historical validity of the bible or arguments that you can use to dismiss the bible and as result dismiss God.

But even that is fallacious.
Committing ad hominems here and there attacking the person of God in the form of the book, his word.

But with what; your own logical premise where you take your intellect👀 as the ultimate source of authority thereby leading to circular reasoning.

You whole lot just keep committing these flaws! 🤧

Bro, u r a damn illiterate.
You don't know what a fallacy is. Don't what what ad hominem is.
Like I said, the topic of this thread is addressing atheists about our supposed stupidity of not acknowledging your god. So we provide varying body of evidence ranging from bible etc. I can see u have no answers to those goofs I pointed out in your Bible, so u r using grammar to dodge them.
Oga, just declare your loss and take your L in peace

Gabrielshow24:
You and this your appeal to hypocrisy fallacy🥱.

You can't dismiss the issue at hand, the existence of God; so you draw parallels with a unicorn insinuating that if God exists then he might as well be a unicorn or if God exists so does a unicorn!

As a result you also commit the straw man fallacy by misrepresenting the message passed across by "Dtruthspeaker".

You and your brothers in arms are all the same!

Do you even know what a strawman is?
His allusion to unicorn is cos u guys allude to your gods. Its a satire.
Provide evidence of your god and we'll do the same for the unicorn. Simples

Gabrielshow24:
Are they the same?
Are there not numerous differences between both?

When you want to make a point tell the people the full picture make them no that although there exists similarities both are largely different!

Do you think people before you are not aware of these books?
Did it stop the gospel message? No!

Because when you read these books in context you see the theme being passed along.

And the themes are not the same!

I can as well say a leopard is the same as a cheetah.
Citing numerous similarities but are they really the same?

Your foolish candor is open for the world to see.

You keep exposing yourself as the dimwitted personality you are!

You act so dumb, all ancient civilizations recorded of a flood!

Does that mean the Cherokee records copied from the epic of Gilgamesh?

Gullible fool looking for pattern where there is none.

I could as well say the inca pyramids were copied from Egypt as well. 👀

Civilizations and deities copy each other. How you know is checking the oldest story. Epic of Gilgamesh is the oldest.
And what the fvck are you talking about the difference in the bible story? How can a Supernatural and Supreme Being goof on his own creation story?

Gabrielshow24:
You don't make any sense.
He even did a better job citing a scholarly write-up but what he failed to provide was that most present day scholars believe they are different!

Unlike your pathetic blabbing, going here and there.
You are not knowledgeable on half of the things you say.
The errors are very visible!

Have you shown any article or even scholarly write up? Or is that restricted only to your opponents?

Gabrielshow24:
The burden is on you to show me how they made minor changes to make it look different.
It's very easy to draw similarities between an hen and an eagle does that mean they are the same?

You keep committing this errant fallacies to prove an invalid point inorder to negate the bible and as a result the existence of God.

You shifted your goal post from God's existence to outright disproving the bible.

Committing the fallacy of motte and Bailey over and over again!

Do you even know what shifting goalpost is?
The thread is about how atheists are supposedly stupid cos we don't acknowledge the existence of your god. So how else are we supposed to prove it? We prove he doesnt exist by showing his book is flawed and there are no evidence of his existence.
So you're talking about burden of proof here? Which proof have you dropped of the existence of your god?

Gabrielshow24:
Why should I take an L over Isis virginity.

It's well written in papyri that she even copulated with her husband while yet in the womb.

So many instances of their lovemaking where being sung as hymns and used in her temple.

Like the Greeks goddesses which renewed their virginity the same idea was incorporated into her.

Very clear she had coitus on multiple occasions but for some supernatural instance such a being which even referred to herself as the LovePeddler and wife.

Can be called and hailed as virgin?
You don't know anything.

And you show it more and more and more!

Which lying article was that? Show me
I showed you my source

LordReed:
No mind am, na so e dey do. I remember the other time he claim Egyptian news carried when miracle but I asked him that I didn't find it after searching he claimed Egyptian government suppressed it. Just a dishonest peddler of rubbish.

Its not the first time. Time after time, thread after thread, he keeps on posting stuff and denying them

LordReed:
LMAO! You even try. He knows there is no evidence he is just deflecting. Dishonest, the lot of them.

The dishonesty tire me. Camera phone now dey everywhere. Now miracles don dey scarce. Just like disappearing dicks. When camera phone no dey, we dey hear say person dick loss everyday. Now camera phone don dey, with bloggers everywhere, no single dick don loss
Reminds me of my NYSC days in General Hospital Kutigi, Niger State. 2 policeman brought one nigga. They said I should write a medical cert that his dick is missing. In my mind I was like, lemme see how this missing dicks even look like. Omo, oga comot trouser. See better gbola wey big pass my own. I ask the idiot why he talk say him dick dey miss, him tell me say he felt his dick was weak. The kain eye I give am and the 2 popo eh. I jus maintain my professionalism. Write the cert. Describe the gross anatomy wella. And them hold innocent man for cell oh

FxMasterz:
It has happened times without number. It only never happened in your head. Go make indepth research and stop reading the wrong books and articles.

I don't have any reason to convince you or prove anything to you. Who cares whether you remain an atheist or a dog? Who are you by the way?

What makes you think we haven't researched? I have worked in Orthopedic Hospitals both in Enugu and Igbobi. Amputees full everywhere. Pastors dey pray everyday. Nothing. Getaway here

FxMasterz:
Lol. You must be a comedian.

So, only amputee miracles is what would make you believe in God? All.other miracles are irrelevant? Clap for yourself.

And what other things did I direct you to or made reference to with you that you're talking about?

Its cos all those other 'miracles' can be arranged and lied about. Someone can claim be healed of cancer, HIV etc without any evidence
I thought u have a brain

LordReed:
You have personally witnessed an amputee being healed? Who is the liar now. LoLz.

The guy na big foooolll

FxMasterz:
Search for Kathryn Khulman now. She's not the only one God has used in that capacity.

Use the search words in the screenshot below and watch videos.

I don't have time to be arguing with atheists on miracles that I have personally witnessed on a large scale. I've not witnessed amputees but I have witnessed large scale miracles. Don't have time for useless arguments.

I just waste my time watching rubbish.
None of those testimonies contained a single video. None. Just people saying they have been healed. This is 2024. Camera phones are everywhere, yet no one can get an amputee growing
You're a big fooolll for wasting my time
Thunder faya ur left nyyyash dia

FxMasterz:
You actually don't deserve an answer. Check the news and find out if such things have never happened in Christendom.

Did you even read that screenshot?
Your chatgpt clearly told you limb regeneration and miracles are not possible. Are you this illiterate?

FxMasterz:
Absolutely correct my brother. 2 days ago I came to a conclusion that there must be a mental defect in a person's brains for such an one to claim that there is no God. And in my day to day arguments with them, I usually find them mentally unsound and intellectually deficient.

Like, how can a mentally sound human being conclude that a person has forced AI to say he is right, he then came to the open to debate humans after forcing AI? Even a psychiatric patient wouldn't reason like that. And, let's not talk about the many blunders they make like another one saying discussions on creationism are religious discussions. Are these guys educated at all?


Some of them can be very honest while debating with you. I know of two of them who are perpetual liars. One lies and create threads based on falsehood. He is not on this thread. The other one would use lies and insults to debate you. He's on this thread. It was on this thread I found a third, or may I say that I eventually confirmed a third. He drinks lies like water. This thread is my second time of meeting him and it was a meeting with lies, just as the first meeting.

This is one of the reasons I think atheism is a religion. There are those others who wouldn't argue with you based on lies but they'll defend and rally round the lies of the ones who do. And there's virtually nothing you can use to convince this people. Not even a vividly demonstrated miracle. They'll remain atheists nonetheless. They're actually fanatical about their atheism. It's a religion. They even go on active campaigns to de-convert others, mostly targeting Christians. In fact, if you share a testimony of a divine miracle you had on this platform they'll swam in like flies on the thread to make everyone disbelieve youri testimony. You'll see a pattern of them actively working to make everyone an atheist. They're agents. They know what they're doing. Atheism is a religion of idiocy and disbelief in the existence of the Almighty God. It's not just a mere disbelief. It's an active spiritual business.



Thanks very much brother. We'll keep making sure that the truth continues to be heard on this platform in spite of the armies of Satan spreading various falsehoods here. I must commend your good works of putting them to shame on this thread.

There's no ancient text they can bring. They're liars. Pure liars. For example, you'll hear atheists say that the 10 commandments were plagiarized from a list of commandments written thousands of years before Moses by Hammurabi. If you do your findings and compare both texts, you'll not find any similarity between the texts. But by mere propaganda, they seek to steal away the hearts of those who wouldn't bother to confirm the truth. Atheism thrives on lies and only lies without sound logic.

Lol. I don't even know where to start.
The people rushing in to dispute miracles are actually Christians, not atheists. If you think I'm lying, check.
Also we debate with facts, if the miracles are staged, do you expect us to believe it? I have invited many christians to my hospital to heal folks, they all took off.
Your threads are just illiterate spawns. We have told you AI doesnt do religious debate but your stvpidity wouldn't allow you to understand

kingxsamz:
Lol, that's why I said you can debate anyone you want na. You can debate physicians, engineers, scientists.. etc But none of that has anything to do with Atheism or this thread entirely. You typed that to feel smart but it only revealed how shallow your thought process is. Na you do yourself.🤷🏾‍♂️

Also, you would have just said there's no scientific explanation for the rubbish in the bible in the first place, but you think yourself as extremely smart that you don't even give yourself chance to think.

And back to what I said before, you cannot believe a man divided the sea with a stick and come here expecting atheists to be mathematicians before you debate them.
Someone with retardéd beliefs is asking to debate mathematicians. 😂😂 This one duII sha.

Bro, the dullness is apparent. And he jumped in feeling like some kind of god

Dtruthspeaker:
Now you confirm that you are a mad person. See how you change your words, speakng left and right, up and down like a mad person.

Even children know that horses cannot create but clearly, this is a case of letting a mad man enjoy his madness! So enjoy your madness man!

We are not talking about horses here, dundee. We're talking about the holy unicorn. Don't annoy it or else its wrath would be hot on you

Dtruthspeaker:
You can worship Aiwa Speakers or wood or vagina, its your stupid business however, the topic is not about worshipping unicorn. eternal fool.

Ok. So whats the topic

LordReed:
LMAO. So the African giant snail slimed its way to the Middle East? What of the North American slug, how did it cross the ocean? Whatever magic you think your god used to get the animals from the far reaches of the earth to the middle east could have preserved all the animals without a boat. This is monumental plot hole just shows that the story is nothing but a story.

Why bother with all that magic?
He coulda just snapped his fingers Thanos-esque and all the world would be wiped out, instead of the boring, time-consuming exercise of magicking animals from all the earth, sending down rain over days, sending wind to blow the water etc etc. Heck, Thanos is even smarter than Yhwh. He did his in seconds. Yhwh's was weeks

Gabrielshow24:
It's my personal bias to debate mathematicians instead of you lot.
I find our conversations rather boring and repetitive with huge leaps and assumptions flying here and there.

If you feel offended, I understand it's not everybody that has the stomach to study mathematics in uni talk less of owning higher degrees in it!

I apologize if it sounds belittling but one thing you must have inferred from me is that I call a spade a spade!

I don't mince word if it's logical enough then it's true.
I don't beat around the bush, I tell you straight there is no scientific basis for this.
But it doesn't limit the theoretical capacity of an infinite God!

How do you know that such a god exists and why do you think he/she/they/it have an infinite capacity?

Gabrielshow24:
Don't be foolish if we had a common ancestor we will get the same effect with some slight variations.

It might have been common pseudo knowledge passed down by the sons of Noah.

Also The boat or ark built in the bible is more likely to float than the one talked about in the eluma elish!

Although current scientific consensus suggests a regional flood as opposed to global flood.

That lends credence to its historical validity and scientific inquiry.

It might not be global because for instance if Nigeria were to experience tsunami whosoever that lives will perhaps from his pov suggest the entire world was flooded because from his horizon he can only see rushing movements of water.

That's not the take home of the bible.
Just one of its numerous exemplary stories to draw out Godly moral values from!

1. What do you mean by the bolded? The Epic flood happened before the story of Noah. Besides, the Bible didn’t state that a previous global flood has already occurred

2. The story of the biblical flood was supposedly related by Yhwh to Moses. Its not humanly inspired. So all those your talk about a regional flood seeming global is all bullshit. No supernatural being would goof like that
3. How can credentials be lent by a global flood becoming local? There was even no such evidence of such flood
4. Assuming the flood was global or even local, what happened to all the dead bodies, animals etc? The ecosystem would be turned upside down. The decay would cause massive disease spread, the stench would persist for decades. Noah and his offspring wouldn't even be able to bury the corpses
5. And finally, where did all the water on the surface of the earth go to? The amount of sunlight needed to evaporate it would require decades of sun exposure. There is no way Noah and his folks would see land to live in after just one year of sunlight(according to the bible)
Even if you agree all the water evaporated, then there would be serious condensation and it would be raining for decades, cos the water vapor would overwhelm the cloud


Noah's flood is one of the most recognized Bible stories. According to the Old Testament, "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, on the seventeenth day of the month, on that day all the fountains of the great deep burst forth, and the windows of the heavens were opened" (Genesis 7:11, English Standard Version).
As the text recounts, God saw wickedness within humans and sent a global inundation. Because Noah was righteous, God instructed him to build an ark for his family and save two of every beast, bird and creeping thing. But did Noah's flood really happen?
"The one thing we know for sure from geology is that a global flood never happened," said David Montgomery, a professor of geomorphology at the University of Washington in Seattle and author of "The Rocks Don't Lie: A Geologist Investigates Noah's Flood" (W. W. Norton & Company, 2012). "If you look at it as literally a global flood that covered the world's highest mountains, I'm sorry, there's just not enough water on Earth to do that," he told Live Science.
If the "heavens" opened and all of the water in the atmosphere came down at once as rain, the planet would be submerged — but only to a depth of about 1 inch (2.5 centimeters), according to the U.S. Geological Survey. That's not enough water to justify a canoe, let alone a massive ark.
But what if more than the water in the "heavens" were considered? If all the world's glaciers and ice sheets were to melt, then sea levels would rise by more than 195 feet (60 meters), according to NASA, which would add a bit more water. Moreover, a 2016 study published in the journal Nature Geoscience estimated that there's 5.4 million cubic miles (22.6 million cubic kilometers) of groundwater stored in the upper 1.2 miles (2 km) of Earth's crust, which is enough to cover the land to a depth of 590 feet (180 m). That's a lot of water, but there are cities thousands of feet above sea level, and Mount Everest, the highest mountain on Earth, is more than 29,000 feet (8,849 m) above sea level. On top of that, geologists don't see evidence for a global flood in the rock record.
The biblical tale has other questionable sections. For example, Noah was 600 years old when the flood started — we know humans don't live that long — and most species wouldn't survive being reduced to just two animals as they wouldn't have enough genetic diversity to create a viable population. What's more, it's unclear how every animal would be capable of making it to the ark in the first place — imagine penguins waddling from Antarctica to the Middle East

The above is from LifeScience, a scientific and academic site

Gabrielshow24:
🙃Witty but foolish

First of all, Mathematicians know their stuff and so far debating with you guys the contrary is obvious!

Under scientific scrutiny Noah's animal gathering seems implausible.

Secondly Noah didn't gather the animals bible records they came to him!

A difference which suggests some unexplained method or process whereby animals were made aware of their impending doom and somehow came to seek shelter.

There is no scientific basis for this exhibited character.

But time and again some certain animals have been known to seek shelter from external sources seeking human aid either due to some force majeure circumstances.

Irrespective of how it played it out!
It doesn't diminish the potency or capability of the Lord's power to do all things.

1. So now the animals came to Noah. Well, how the fvck did the polar bears in Antarctica, the llamas in South America, the gators in North America fly/jump all the way to a boat in the middle east? How?
2. The story of the Flood is so bleeped up, that its risible
Here's part of it…

19 You are to bring into the ark two of all living creatures, male and female, to keep them alive with you. 20 Two of every kind of bird, of every kind of animal and of every kind of creature that moves along the ground will come to you to be kept alive 21 You are to take every kind of food that is to be eaten and store it away as food for you and for them.”

22 Noah did everything just as God commanded him.

Chapter 7
The Lord then said to Noah, “Go into the ark, you and your whole family, because I have found you righteous in this generation. 2 Take with you seven pairs of every kind of clean animal, a male and its mate, and one pair of every kind of unclean animal, a male and its mate, 3 and also seven pairs of every kind of bird, male and female, to keep their various kinds alive throughout the earth

Two sets of confusing instruction given by a supposedly omniscient being
The whole bible is replete with these kinda birdbrain instructions from your all-knowing Yahweh, but I'll stick to those related to the flood

kingxsamz:
Sad thing is that he doesn't know that he's running mad. Or at least refused to believe it.

Many psychotic cases lack insight, sadly

Gabrielshow24:
Your argument is self defeating!
Show me anyone that is 2000+ years old!

If anyone wanted to preserve anything what will they do?

Won't they not write?

You are truly as they say you are!
You are daft and hypocritical



All his disciples saw him in flesh!
What are you trying to get at exactly?
Or are you just parading your foolishness for the world to see?

Lol. They didn't. Those 'disciples' never existed either. Do a little bit of research, dvmmy

Gabrielshow24:
Are you a fool?
dele giwa that was blown to pieces have you met him?

Do you see your logical flaws?
You're conceding using the motte and bailey fallacy; moving your defense from his historic evidence to "those that saw him"

Which you think you can defend easily?
But you are mistaken because in fact most of all those that lived in the lifetime of Jesus, his disciples wrote about him.

Not only that historical writers dated to Jesus' time such as Josephus and Tacitus wrote of him.

Not only that years after the Babylonian Talmuds also record of Jesus.

No sire, the disciples didn’t write about him.
The authors of the books Matthew, Luke, Mark, John are all anonymous and they were written ages after Jesus supposedly lived. So how can they be first hand accounts?
This fact is common knowledge but for a dvmmy like you, its news

Gabrielshow24:
I'm beginning to align myself with the community talk of you not being logically reasonable!

It is becoming clear to me that you don't know what you are talking about!

You say "Jesus is fictional" then bring out evidence for such a bold claim!

Throughout you have brought none👀

The existence of jesus is a hotly debated topic. However, scholars like the Josephus you mentioned earlier stated that a Jewish man named Jesus of Nazareth did exist in the 1st century AD. The baptism of Jesus by John the Baptist and his crucifixion by Pontius Pilate are widely accepted as historical events. However, there is no evidence of his divinity or deity. If you have, please provide them

FxMasterz:
Oh, thank you. I also got a kingxsamz too to admit that I'm right.

Lol. AI doesn't do religious debates. Besides I saw the chat, the AI simply says that its programming doesn't cover that aspect of knowledge, like religion. Same stuff I have been drumming into your thick skull

Gabrielshow24:
No one disputes that there are some textual similarities between the two.

As regards the creation story you talked about even in the enuma elish, its depiction suggests a pitiful and rather purposeless life filled with chaos unlike the creation story of the bible where there is structure and purpose as to why God made everything.

The relationship of God as regards Israel is more than a suzerain and vassal relationship.
Very well depicted in the verses of the bible.

Also Yahweh is depicted as a creator of the universe unlike Baal and so called other gods👀 wrestling for eminence.

There are lots of textual similarities but the theme or message of both differ!

Your argument holds no salt.

It only shows they have a common origin or ancestor.
Evident in the fact that they existed in the same region.

What else do you have brother!
You have to refer to the enuma elish🥱

1. This is how you know somebody that is not only cretarded but biased.
Enuma Elish is very articulated and concise, even though initially recorded in tablets.
Your bible creation storyline is so bleeped up I don't even know where to start. First error was that they said yhwh made day and night when there were no sun to demarcate day and night. Not only that, the creation story in chapter 1 is different from chapter 2. I can go on and on about the clusterfuck that is the Genesis creation story, never mind the whole bible.
2. Same Israel he allowed to be captured and plundered. Nice one
3. Of course you don't expect them to copy verbatim. They would make minor changes in the narrative to make it look different but its the same shit

Gabrielshow24:
So you must be the momochiki to his Kaguya😂😂😂.

I hope you do better than him!
I was just bored through out🥱.

Another way of saying you have no rebuttals for this
I know all this tactics. Keep it up

Gabrielshow24:
Jae, you are not making any sense at all!

All your sources are either made up or incomplete.

And most of the time you don't even know half of what you are talking about.
Relying on Queries to help you!

👀How pathetic!
Coming from someone that is not even knowledgeable on the topic at hand✋.

How would you feel if I come to your office and start saying the scrotum is in the head of a man😁 or the femur is his waist bone!

You can see how conflicting and tiring I will be to you.

Although I might get their names right but their purpose and context is all wrong!

That's exactly what you are doing!
Copying and pasting from some unknown atheist source.

Without properly verifying this sources or reading this books for yourself to understand where the similarities you so claim to exist are.

But as usual without parachute you jump from high cliffs💀.

Go and educate yourself in basic history pick a date when you are ready let me know.

So far once again I am not impressed with you and that self claimed "child of God", somvya.

I will do far much better than this if I were to be an atheist.

Pathetic and disgusting!🤦

Look who's talking about verifying sources?
Did you verify your Bible(a lie filled and misleading book) before believing everything in it hook, line and sinker?
And who told you my posts were chatgpt? Even if they were, then prove them wrong

Gabrielshow24:
How misleading!
First of all there are hieroglyphics that suggest she copulated with her husband in bird form!

Although she is regarded as a virgin deity but horus' birth is acknowledge to be by her taking her husband seed in bird form.

Does that sound like a virgin?
Did Mary take in while in bird form?

You arrogant lots when you just stumble upon an article you think you know it all.

The so called Isis, is depicted in so many texts to be having an affair with her husband.

With different sources giving different accounts of how Horus was conceived.

Some accounts or praise for the goddess even involves her saying "she is the LovePeddler and the virgin".

That's saying something👀

Lol. Grasping at straws. The official sources say she was a virgin, and Horus was a virgin birth. For all I know, you could have gotten this 'bird copulation ish' from anti-Egyptian sources. Just like you don't believe sources that say Mary was not a virgin, but you only believe your Babble

Gabrielshow24:
You haven't brought shit!
Very obvious to the blind that you don't what you are saying, I bet you copied half of this stuffs from supposed antiChrist articles but you haven't done the work!

I have read all these books, I am familiar with every apocryphal book because I have read them there is nothing you want to tell me about them that I don't know!

How pathetic! 🤧
You avoided the evidence i asked you to bring as regards "Epic"!

Now you are nowhere to be found as regards the "virginity of Isis"

You posit something and then when you see you have goofed; you run away!

Bring evidence let's see! 👀
Cowards, both you and somvya.
Claiming you know, when you both know nothing!

1. Lol at 'antichrist' articles. Granted I read many scientific articles, would you say they are antichrist cos they didn't support your narrative? Isnt veracity the most important issue here? Does the source matter, as long as it is facts. Your bible was copied from ancient books. The authors of your bible are unknown goat herders
2. I haven't brought the evidence of Epic. What else do you want from me again, please lemme know
3. Instead of humility taking your L about the Isis virginity ish, u r here still spouting rubbish